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    October 09, 2009
    By Nicole Baute

    Move over, Sean Connery, with your gravelly voice and plentiful testosterone. Those birth control pills popped daily by women around the world might leave husky, masculine types like you by the wayside, neglected for feminine, boyish sorts like Zac Efron, Leonardo DiCaprio or the Jonas brothers.

    A new study published in the British journal Trends in Ecology and Evolution suggests that women who take the pill may be attracted to more feminine men than women who do not.

    “When you’re on the pill, you don’t show the cyclicity in mate preferences,” says Alexandra Alvergne of the Department of Animal and Plant Sciences at the University of Sheffield, one of the study’s co-authors.

    Normally women are attracted to different types of men at different points in their cycle, Alvergne says. When women ovulate, they prefer masculine men with symmetrical faces who are “genetically dissimilar” to them — in other words, their animal instincts crave someone who will father strong, healthy offspring.

    During the rest of the month, women are looking for something different: men for the long haul, who seem caring, feminine and more similar to them genetically.

    “In the long run, you’re looking for a parental investment, but for the genetic quality of the child, you’re looking for good genes in the man,” Alvergne says. “And you can’t always have it all.”

    The birth control pill was introduced in the early 1960s, giving women unprecedented control over their bodies. It is now used by 100 million women worldwide, including 50 per cent of Western European women and 20 per cent of North American women.

    Daily use of the pill increases and “smoothens” women’s levels of estrogen and progesterone by mimicking the hormonal state of pregnancy. Alvergne and colleague Virpi Lummaa reviewed seven recent studies and found that the hormonal changes may alter what women find attractive.

    But there are also cultural reasons that might explain a woman’s desire for a boyish mate.

    Marc Ouellette, a professor of cultural studies at McMaster University, says society is obsessed with youthfulness, in part because the baby boomers are getting old and wishing they looked young.

    “Ageism is unfortunately rampant,” he says. “We fear getting old.”

    For a quick overview of how the male ideal has changed since the 1960s, Ouellette says we need only to look at James Bond, who has gone from a “very hairy” Sean Connery to a hairless, boyish, chiselled Daniel Craig.

    Christine Hitchcock, a research associate at the Centre for Menstrual Cycle and Ovulation Research at the University of British Columbia, says that while the pill can be a good option for women, it is used too readily and for far too many purposes, such as regulating a women’s menstrual cycle.

    “This is another revelation of one of the ways in which menstrual cycles organize women’s lives in physiology, that we didn’t previously understand,” she says.

    Hitchcock says the physiological cues people use to select mates are really what many people would refer to as “chemistry.”

    If the effect of the pill is strong enough to modify actual mate choice — which remains unknown — there could be disconcerting consequences.

    When parents are too genetically similar their offspring may be genetically weak, or it could be difficult for them to reproduce at all, which means there could be evolutionary implications.

    And if a woman meets a man while on the pill and then goes off it, it is possible that she could become less attracted to her partner.

    The pill might change the game on both sides, as men may be more attracted to fertile women, the co-authors wrote. In a study of lap dancers, the ovulating dancers earned $20 more per hour on average.

    Ovulation induces changes in the physical properties of women that men pick up on, including changes in facial appearance, odour or voice pitch. When they are ovulating women may also dress more provocatively, be more interested in sex and perceive themselves as more attractive.

    “For the same woman, if she takes the pill throughout all her cycles she’s going to be less attractive on average than if she was off the pill,” Alvergne says.

    Record news services

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    I always wonder how much money is laid-out for these sort of "duh" studies. If the pill tricks a woman's body into thinking that it's already pregnant, then she's going to look at/for the same sorts of men she'd look at/for while pregnant. They had studies out years ago, and probably sooner, that showed that women tend toward more feminine-looking men for "long-haul" relationships, and that's what pregnant women are looking for... or should be looking for. If they had put two and two together, this study could have been "assumed," rather than "conducted."

    Just another reason not to intentionally screw with my sex hormones.
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    That explains my antipathy towards male models and stars, especially the metrosexual ones

    Another reason to think women should stop taking those pills...
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    I am on the pill and I've been so for some months now... But I didnt notice any changes in me, nor in my likes and dislikes, so far But I have only one or two months more on it! I'm happy it will be over with!
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    When parents are too genetically similar their offspring may be genetically weak, or it could be difficult for them to reproduce at all, which means there could be evolutionary implications.
    Thats crap, total crap. The positive dissimilarity or heterozygous effect being largely reduced to very specific parts of the variation, primarily immune system related, if ignoring close direct relatives, whats self-evident and part of the incest blockade/taboo.

    For many other traits, in humans as well as animals, similarity was always the way to go, maximising the own strength and genetic investment. Its just unlogical to invest in an offspring which shares much fewer genes with you than the offspring of a similar partner.

    So there are just two aspects which lead to the preference of dissimilar partners from a biological point of view:
    - The dissimilar partner offers generally positive traits you dont get in more similar partners. F.e. an individual prefers a dissimilar mate because the level this mate has, isn't accessible in a similar version. F.e. pretty, nice, mother- and housewive like Asian and Eastern European mail order brides are just the most prominent example, because many males dont prefer them in general, they just dont get a similar quality in the neighbourhood, or at least think so. Or an obese middle aged women taking their African muscle boy, since they won't get an European with the same physical qualities as easily...

    - The immune variant recombination. This is unrelated to most things we can actually see, but especially the odour can give a hint.

    Most factors which play a role if very different partners come together are rather cultural and studies prove more similar partners have more successful long time relationships.

    Other than that, the authors might confuse the pictures in the media with reality, because many females still prefer the more masculine version and many females preferred a more feminine version in the past. Craig might be many things, but for sure no perfect example for a "boyish and feminine" star, thats ridiculous. In comparison to Sean Connery most individuals would, so thats pretty much a distorted standard I'd say.

    In general, the pill effect is present, but highly overrated, for women in particular, in which we know that there are more effective blockades than in males if its about their drives.

    Funnily one could discuss the effects of drug and alcohol on that matter which is, in my opinion, much more drastic
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    The pill reduces a woman's fertility for the long term. It's not limited to preventing pregnancy temporarily. Fertility is reduced also after quitting, and the risk of miscarriage is increased.
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    I was on the pill for months (February through recently/early Oct) and it turned me in to a depressive self hating suicidal freak (I made an attempt...) My doctor who had given me a prescription for medical reasons told me to stop it immediately. I've since then been growing in to a much sweeter and affectionate girl that I ever recall being.
    I didn't notice any particular changes in my attractions. Maybe because I normally don't even much pay attention to them in the first place lol!

    But yeah, the pill anyway can have some very negative effects (and even dangerous) on some women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurentian View Post
    I was on the pill for months (February through recently/early Oct) and it turned me in to a depressive self hating suicidal freak (I made an attempt...) My doctor who had given me a prescription for medical reasons told me to stop it immediately. I've since then been growing in to a much sweeter and affectionate girl that I ever recall being.
    I didn't notice any particular changes in my attractions. Maybe because I normally don't even much pay attention to them in the first place lol!

    But yeah, the pill anyway can have some very negative effects (and even dangerous) on some women.
    When I was on the pill, my two dominant feelings were hunger and rage. Basically I wanted to either stuff my face to yell at someone. Needless to say, I don't plan on taking hormonal birth control in the future. It was hell on my body and my emotions.

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    I had been on the pill for the last two years (recently quit) and I can personally testify that I did not prefer effeminate-looking men during that time.

    I don't think my overall preferences when it comes to the opposite sex changed a bit, actually.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthropos View Post
    The pill reduces a woman's fertility for the long term. It's not limited to preventing pregnancy temporarily. Fertility is reduced also after quitting, and the risk of miscarriage is increased.
    Actually my gynecologist said the exact opposite; that after quiting the pill there is greater probability of getting pregnant so I should be extra careful in case I didn't want to

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