Anger at Albania's European Union plan as millions closer to getting right to work in UK

[Windischer]

baluarte is so easy to get caught in media hype.

MILLIONS OF ALBANIANS WHAT THE HELL - THERE ARE LIKE 70 MILLION OF THEM AND AT LEAST 10 MILLION ARE ON THEIR WAY TO LONDON, ARRIVING TOMORROW. BRACE YOURSELVES THE APOCALYPSE HAS COME.

geniuses: albania has 2,8 million inhabitants, and how many do you think will go to western europe? 100 000?
thats millions for somebody

[KrashNick]

This is good news. Hopefully Macedonian-Albanians get Albanian citizenship and set off to EU countries

Ha you wish...

[Chieftain]

baluarte is so easy to get caught in media hype.

MILLIONS OF ALBANIANS WHAT THE HELL - THERE ARE LIKE 70 MILLION OF THEM AND AT LEAST 10 MILLION ARE ON THEIR WAY TO LONDON, ARRIVING TOMORROW. BRACE YOURSELVES THE APOCALYPSE HAS COME.

geniuses: albania has 2,8 million inhabitants, and how many do you think will go to western europe? 100 000?
thats millions for somebody

Indeed, and the population of Albania is growing older lately(2011 based census), it changed from average 27 year old to 31 year old, and the population went down for the first time since 1991, meaning that there has been an actual decreasing from the last 2001 census.

Based on the offical website of the EU, the sub-division related to inner-european emigration, since that Albania has received the Schengen area rights, it is the country with the lowest rates of movement within the Schengen area, and that has been mainly for business/touristic reasons.

In other words, there is no 'mass migration' anymore, not at least from this country I admit that there was a great exodus in the 90's when the country was totally collapsed, but now, and especially thanks to the new government people actually earn more and live better than once, and based on the latest statistics that I've read, around 30-35% of the immigrants that left in the two main destinations, Greece and Italy have returned home(it is believed that around 200.000-300.00 came back), set aside the other western countries where our entire diaspora doesn't count more than 40.000 individuals.

Another thing is that Albania won't be able to be part of the European Union for at least 20 years or even more, but that does not mean that it will remain the 2nd world undeveloped country that it was 20 years ago, plus they have their Schengen rights movements, and from what I've heard the US and Canada are planning to ease movements for albanian citizens through their countries, after all why would they even want to join the EU in the first place?

How are you going to cope with the thousands of Romas and Turks from Bulgaria, Romania and Serbia that are flooding your countries and with the non-european skyrocket fertility rates that will soon be the majority in your countries?

[Windischer]

yes, large part of economic migrants (usually over 50%) returns home after few years. unless their homes are fucked up really bad (eritrea and such).

Another thing is that Albania won't be able to be part of the European Union for at least 20 years or even more, but that does not mean that it will remain the 2nd world undeveloped country that it was 20 years ago

20 years? nah i give you 10.
also albania was never 2nd most underdeveloped in the world. maybe in the europe.

[dralos]

they also reacted like this with the free shengen area between albania and west europe while very few alboz came to west europe after the agreement and now they're complaining about a thing that will take like forever LOL
i mean albanians are nowhere that much in west europe to really impact a country
but i think this is used to show other eu members like poland,romania that they're sending to many immigrants to west europe

[Útrám]

Sometimes I wonder whether or not the EU isn't just some elaborate scheme to destroy Europe itself.

[Chieftain]

yes, large part of economic migrants (usually over 50%) returns home after few years. unless their homes are fucked up really bad (eritrea and such).

20 years? nah i give you 10.
also albania was never 2nd most underdeveloped in the world. maybe in the europe.

It will take more than 10, trust me, we will be here to see and hopefully if we'll both be able to contact again after 10 years, I'll tell you I was right, heck I sometimes think it will take like 25-30 years to get integrated fully in the EU, and by that time I'll be probably in my late 40's or early 50's.

Also, I was not talking about the 2nd less developed country in Europe, rather more a post-cold war classification, as a an emerging ex-communist economy of the 2nd world, part of the once eastern communist block.

Albanians, as I clearly stated before have no larger diaspora than 50.000 in each of the Western countries, if we exclude Italy and Greece, which I've already explained it in the previous post, there are some countries where our diaspora is very small(Spain, Portugal,Ireland) and quite irrelevant, not larger than 15.000(Netherlands, France) and the list goes on and on.

We've already had the schengen rights for at least 2 years and no complaints have come to us, not one single time, most of the ones who stepped foot abroad were either students, tourists or merchants probably.

I have yet to see a recent article where it explains how Albania exploited it's Schengen movement visa rights and how 'muslim' albanians are invading Western Europe with hundreds and thousands of immigrants, but unfortunately there is none.

Yet, I keep reading all the time that other countries are over-abusing this system, and such countries as Romania(mostly), Bulgaria, and Poland neverthless the fact that they're members of the EU make it to the headlines quite often.

[alb0zfinest]

It will take more than 10, trust me, we will be here to see and hopefully if we'll both be able to contact again after 10 years, I'll tell you I was right, heck I sometimes think it will take like 25-30 years to get integrated fully in the EU, and by that time I'll be probably in my late 40's or early 50's.

Also, I was not talking about the 2nd less developed country in Europe, rather more a post-cold war classification, as a an emerging ex-communist economy of the 2nd world, part of the once eastern communist block.

Albanians, as I clearly stated before have no larger diaspora than 50.000 in each of the Western countries, if we exclude Italy and Greece, which I've already explained it in the previous post, there are some countries where our diaspora is very small(Spain, Portugal,Ireland) and quite irrelevant, not larger than 15.000(Netherlands, France) and the list goes on and on.

We've already had the schengen rights for at least 2 years and no complaints have come to us, not one single time, most of the ones who stepped foot abroad were either students, tourists or merchants probably.

I have yet to see a recent article where it explains how Albania exploited it's Schengen movement visa rights and how 'muslim' albanians are invading Western Europe with hundreds and thousands of immigrants, but unfortunately there is none.

Yet, I keep reading all the time that other countries are over-abusing this system, and such countries as Romania(mostly), Bulgaria, and Poland neverthless the fact that they're members of the EU make it to the headlines quite often.

I think you greatly underestimate Albanias development. You can't even imagine how much its changed compared to how it was once communism ended. It manages to continue to rise economically despite the economic downturn of the world. 4.1 million tourists before last year. Infastructure was transformed. Direct investment increased by a large chunk, and is higher than many of its neighbors. Albania also has many natural resources and access to the Adriatic coast. It could be a leading country in energy creation considering 98% of its energy comes from hydro. IF the country were to take advantage of what it has, by now it would have easily been to western standards. But we have corrupt politicians, ones that even politicians in Africa would consider corrupt. Yet despite this it managed to grow tremendously. Now under new leadership you'll see just how fast those standards are reached.

[safinator]

Albanians have already emigrated in the 90's, the bulk was then, now maybe only few people will do that seeing how economic times are.

[Manifest Destiny]

I don't know who Paul Nuttall is, but it sounds like more British people need to start voting for him.