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    Icons are favourit ornaments of Byzantine orthodox churches and muslim mosques.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post

    The art fulfilled new religious and social claims. The church in Baalbek is good example onto this.
    Thats not Church, but pagan Temple.


    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    Latin word but not onto China or India. Latin word for the Near and Middle East.
    Latin word for East just, idiot.

    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/oriens
    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    No, sorry. That was the Karolingian age.

    Migration period art: 4-9th century (after the 7th century only apart from the Roman Empire only)
    Karolingian art: 8-9th century (In the Roman Empire only)
    Romanesque art: 10-12th century
    Gothic art: 13-15th century
    How Giotto, enters in Renaissance, in your scheme? He died 1337.

    Anyway, from Wikipedia:

    Romanesque architecture is an architectural style of Medieval Europe characterized by semi-circular arches. There is no consensus for the beginning date of the Romanesque architecture, with proposals ranging from the 6th to the 10th century. It developed in the 12th century into the Gothic style, characterised by pointed arches. Examples of Romanesque architecture can be found across the continent, making it the first pan-European architectural style since Imperial Roman Architecture. The Romanesque style in England is traditionally referred to as Norman architecture.

    Combining features of Roman and Byzantine buildings and other local traditions, Romanesque architecture is known by its massive quality, thick walls, round arches, sturdy piers, groin vaults, large towers and decorative arcading. Each building has clearly defined forms and they are frequently of very regular, symmetrical plan so that the overall appearance is one of simplicity when compared with the Gothic buildings that were to follow. The style can be identified right across Europe, despite regional characteristics and different materials.
    See?

    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    There was no decorative art at the Greeks before the Hellenism somewhere else. The decorativity was not typical of them.
    Alexander Mosaic is if I remember correctly, copy of famous Greek fresco.


    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    Two hundred years after the beginning the Renaissance...
    Who? Pleton? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemistus_Pletho
    Or some of this:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_s...he_Renaissance


    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    End. It was used for nothing practically (the Etruscans). And the Pantheon's Dome built ~120AD and the probably architect was Apollodorus of Damascus.
    Thats still not Late Imperial period.


    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    I read the A Study of History. So Where?
    Here maybe.

    http://www.amazon.com/Greeks-Heritag.../dp/0192152564

    Quote Originally Posted by Stears View Post
    Icons are favourit ornaments of Byzantine orthodox churches and muslim mosques.


    Stears congratulations. Just when I tought you could not go more stupid, you suceeded.
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    In Karelia? Japs won that one too. The Japanese were impressed with massed artilery, but soviets lacked the tactics and lost it.
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    I see, explain to me why is Anatolia who was ruled by Ottomans for longer in better shape than Turkey
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    Serbia was a vasal state of the Ottomans ever since the Battle of Maritsa. It even participated in attack on Bosnia
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    Icons are favourit ornaments of Byzantine orthodox churches and muslim mosques.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twistedmind View Post
    Lets digest it for once and all. Pantheon was built by Augustus' son-in law. You still keep insisting it is Late Roman period.
    The first Pantheon, but not the Dome!

    Interesting tough, domes existed on basilicas, public baths, military forts and other structures built by Romans. You still have something to add?
    Are you reatard? You claim it really that the Pantheon and the Hagia Sophia was not relatives? That the building was not the prototype of the house?




    Etruscans did not have Churches, niether Romans in "Late Imperial period" by your chronology.
    ?

    Funny to notice, forecourt exist in many buildings, including monumental Western Cathedrals.
    Yes, and the idea originates from the Orieans.

    Oriental art --> late Roman art --> early Christian art (St Peter in Rome) --> influence of the St Peter's forecourt to the Western architecture

    For example the 10th century Bazilica of Kalocsa in Hungary:


    Thats not Church, but pagan Temple.
    Transitional form between the Christian and the ancient temple.

    Latin word for East just, idiot.
    So you are really retartd. You do not understand it simply that this was the region's name. Or Stears has truth is and your education catastrophically incomplete. Did you go to a Balkan school?

    How Giotto, enters in Renaissance, in your scheme? He died 1337.
    Proto-Renaissance / Trecento: 14th century
    Early-Renaissance / Quattrocento: 15th century
    High and Late-Renaissance / Cinquecento: 16th century

    Alexander Mosaic is if I remember correctly, copy of famous Greek fresco.
    Classical Greek frescoe from Alexander?

    El Greco. But Pletho live in the 15th century only. The beginning of the Italian Renessaince is earlier.

    Thats still not Late Imperial period.
    That is the start of the late Imperial period in the Roman architecture. The Pantheon, Hadrian's villa in Tivoli, stb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    The first Pantheon, but not the Dome!
    Regardless. Romans started building doems earlier, and even Pantheon Dome is not of later date.


    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    Are you reatard? You claim it really that the Pantheon and the Hagia Sophia was not relatives? That the building was not the prototype of the house?
    Interesting picture, lets see what was written under it:

    Front to back: Theodosian Basilica, Hagia Sophia as it was in 537 and after the dome collapse in 557
    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post

    ?
    Etruscans did not have Churches, Romans did not have churches, untill got Christianized, Temple in Bablek is not church... You dont see the pattern.

    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    Yes, and the idea originates from the Orieans.
    They were called Orientals. Oriens, orientes, orientalis, ...

    Forecourts were known in Megalithic temples of malta.
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    In Karelia? Japs won that one too. The Japanese were impressed with massed artilery, but soviets lacked the tactics and lost it.
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    I see, explain to me why is Anatolia who was ruled by Ottomans for longer in better shape than Turkey
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    Serbia was a vasal state of the Ottomans ever since the Battle of Maritsa. It even participated in attack on Bosnia
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    Icons are favourit ornaments of Byzantine orthodox churches and muslim mosques.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twistedmind View Post
    Regardless. Romans started building doems earlier, and even Pantheon Dome is not of later date.
    Not regardles, since the Panteon is the first monumental church with dome!

    Interesting picture, lets see what was written under it:
    Front to back: Theodosian Basilica, Hagia Sophia as it was in 537 and after the dome collapse in 557
    Yes, when it was rebuilt already Pantheon was the sample. But the Greeks were not able to copy the original Roman construction (the Italians did not want it later in Florence).

    Etruscans did not have Churches, Romans did not have churches, untill got Christianized, Temple in Bablek is not church... You dont see the pattern.
    Oh, magia di parole.

    Forecourts were known in Megalithic temples of malta.
    That is not relatives historally and structurally (liturgically).

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    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    Not regardles, since the Panteon is the first monumental church with dome!
    And before that public baths had domes. Dome has not any Middle Eastern origin, and generally, it

    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    Yes, when it was rebuilt already Pantheon was the sample. But the Greeks were not able to copy the original Roman construction (the Italians did not want it later in Florence).
    God, this is annying. Pantheon follows example of Greek architecture. Its combination of public hall (basilica stoa) and temple


    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    That is not relatives historally and structurally (liturgically).
    Liturgically, forecourt have not any meaning in any religion. Especialy not in Christianity. You have altar where priests are serving Litrugy, and have nave where people are listening. You have processions of gifts, and incense in nave, but forecourt was just for chit chatting, and legacy of Greek public halls, first Churches were just public halls, adapted for Christianity.

    Greeks were building forecourts in their basilicas, and Romans took it from Greeks. You had famous basilica Portia.
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    In Karelia? Japs won that one too. The Japanese were impressed with massed artilery, but soviets lacked the tactics and lost it.
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    I see, explain to me why is Anatolia who was ruled by Ottomans for longer in better shape than Turkey
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    Icons are favourit ornaments of Byzantine orthodox churches and muslim mosques.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arcticwolf View Post
    I hope you wake up and smell the roses. Your western brothers will sell you out first chance they get. If you are that naive,:

    Seriously now.

    Hungarian-Russian ties are steadily improving:
    http://www.politics.hu/20130605/russ...will-continue/

    and so are Hungarian-Belarussian ties
    http://www.politics.hu/20130820/quot...-with-hungary/

    And this one is just for Arcticwolf and his accusations for us being friends of the West.
    http://news.belta.by/en/news/president?id=699207

    Meanwhile, Poland is as pro-NATO as ever, then you have the 2010 plane crash, and other disagreements with the Russians such as the missile defense shield (which “pro Western” Hungary was against btw). Dont forget Zbigniew Brzezinski, or PopeJohn Paul II, you can't get more pro Western than that

    While Poland is pursuing EU integration, NATO integration, etc, Hungary is expanding ties with Russia, Japan, China, etc as part of the governments "Eastern policy".
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    Quote Originally Posted by arcticwolf View Post
    You are incorrigible!

    Who are you talking about? What western powers do Slavs owe anything to? Are you smoking weed my Hungarian brother?

    PresidentWoodrow Wilsonand the United States played a major role in the establishment of the original Czechoslovak state on October 28, 1918, and President Wilson'sFourteen Pointswere the basis for the union of the Czechs and Slovaks.Tomas Masaryk, the father of the Czechoslovak state and its first president, visited the United States duringWorld War Iand used the U.S. Constitution as a model for the first Czechoslovak Constitution.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovaki...ates_relations
    Also

    Sedgwick noted that the United States has long played an important role in Slovakia’s quest for self-determination while Slovaks recognized President Woodrow Wilson’s role in creating the independence of Czechoslovakia by calling Pressburg “Wilson City” for several months after World War I, and later renaming it Bratislava.

    “Americans continued to fight for Slovak freedom with the deployment of our pilots during World War II, during the Cold War, and by encouraging Slovakia to join the European Union and NATO,” Sedgwick said. “With elections this year in both Slovakia and the US, it's worth observing that Slovak-American relations will remain strong no matter which party is in power in either country.”


    Sedgwick added that in anticipation the 20th anniversary of an independent Slovakia this coming January,“we Americans pledge to continue working together with Slovakia to promote independence, peace and prosperity”
    http://spectator.sme.sk/articles/vie...ependence.html

    So hating the West would be hating the founders of many “proud” Slavic “nations” like “Slovakia”


    There are other examples too, Alenka knows exactly what I am talking about, thanks to big bad West, today we call Ljubljana Ljubljana, and not Laibach

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twistedmind View Post
    Hungarian nationalism is state not ethnicity based.

    Yes, and those who don't integrate into the Hungarian state are therefore not part of the Hungarian nation.
    This for example includes some Gypsies who want to live in ghettoes following their own "laws", etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glasses View Post
    lol. 21 centur but you still preserved your ancestors ponyrider mentality (rob and loot neighbor people)
    irony nearly every your slavic neighbor has better economical parameters than "western" hungaria

    We never looted or robbed neigbouring people. It is the opposite, our Slavic and Metsizo Romanian neighbours who stole and looted from us.

    And its funny for the son of an NKVD rapist to speak about looting and robbing, how many watches did your grandfather steal in WW2?
    Is he one of these by any chance?

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