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    Butthurt Turk is butthurt
    There are both Greeks and German ''immigrants'' in Germany, yet Greeks are having no problem, while Turks are considered the parasite over there. Plus, Greeks in Germany work while Turks are benefiting from wellfare.
    For such a ''bad people'' , we have contributed much more than you did, and I'm not talking about antiquity.
    So, it hurts, doesn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoca View Post
    The things Greeks should understand is there is no thing as free meal, free ride, free money. Historically "free" for Greece always came with a d up their a.
    Greece only got accepted as European because Germany wanted to create Neo-Roman Empire and they succesfully did.
    Actually the Germans didn't really want Greece in the European Economic Community. The French did, and the real reason Greece entered the E.U. was to create a distraction so that the Greeks would not pursue a war with Turkey after the Cyprus invasion. Therefore, Greece entered the E.U. on Yankees' orders.
    Basically they achieved what Hitler failed to do. It was just grand mistake for Germans to accept Greeks as equals. Greek mindset, greek people and their economy are very different.
    The real problem is that we are surrounded by many idiots. At least we are trying to improve them just as Europe improved us, but the Turks are a lost cause. Go back to Asia idiots, next to your Azerbaijani and Uzbek cousins!!!
    Germans are people with rules, strictness and hard working work ethic. Greeks are more of the philosophy shit were you eat. I think Germans made huge mistake thinking they can change people. If they try to change Greeks they will call Germans Nazi's.
    People do change over time, and the Europeans tried and succeeded to turn the Greeks away from the Balkan mentality of constant warfare, even before Greece entered the European Economic Community. Unfortunately much of the "help" was not administered wisely: The Greek political parties used it as a tool to bolster their popular support, and the result was that the Greeks grew to believe that political connections were more important than hard work, which turned to be disastrous.

    One way for Neo-Roman Empire to work is when Germany uses force and Germanizes the Greek people. They should bring up Greek people the German way. They should teach German as main and only language in Greece, and obsolete language should be forgotten.
    No E.U. member shall accept that another E.U. should lose their language, for obvious reasons. What makes the Germans better is not the language, because the German grammar is basically a copy of the Ancient Greek grammar:

    http://www.bris.ac.uk/german/images/...eofgermanweek1

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    2. How many parts of speech? How many cases?

    To all those working to raise the prestige of their vernacular language, ‘grammar’

    meant in practice ‘Latin and Greek grammar’. According to long-established

    tradition, Latin and Greek had eight different parts of speech and five (Greek) or

    six (Latin) cases. So, therefore, must German, or so the pioneer grammarians

    thought. For the parts of speech, the first three grammars of German from the 1570s

    followed the Greek model, listing pronoun, verb,
    adverb, participle, conjunction, preposition and article, but Ritter (1616) omitted

    the participle and instead listed the interjection as a separate part of speech.

    (In Greek grammar, the interjection was subsumed under the adverb). Not until

    Schottelius (1651) was the ideal of eight parts of speech dispensed with for

    German: Schottelius listed both the interjection and article as separate parts of

    speech, making nine in total. Three and a half centuries later, the same nine are

    now listed by Eisenberg (1999: 14) in his authoritative grammar of German.
    It’s worth noting that there is a difference, however. Eisenberg (1999: 21-23) also

    gives considerable importance to ‘syntactical categories’, i.e. sentence

    constituents that can contain more than one word or part of speech, such as the

    nominal phrase, prepositional phrase, adjectival phrase, or adverbial phrase. This

    is a point we’ll return to under Section 7.

    Besides the number of the parts of speech, the boundaries between them were also

    (and still remain) problematic. The adverb is a good example. Even in standard

    reference grammars today, there is disagreement about whether or not the words

    underlined below are adverbs:

    Sie arbeitetschön
    Eisenberg (1999: 207), a linguist’s grammar of German, would classify schön as an

    adjective (not an adverb, as I was taught!)
    Das Kind ist der Mutter ähnlich. Wir sind stolz auf uns.

    Dreyer & Schmitt (1999), a widely used grammar for foreign learners of German,

    would say that the underlined word in each sentence is an adverb (as would Funks

    (1763); cf. Jellinek 1914: 101). The adverb also arguably overlaps with the

    adjective (sie singt schön), with particles (komm schon!), with conjunctions

    (deshalb kommt er nicht), and with the participle (dies ist dringend erforderlich)

    (Eisenberg 1999: 204-209).

    Earlier grammarians had still other difficulties. They struggled to distinguish the

    adverb from prepositions and prefixes (for instance, in Er klettertehinauf,

    Schottelius viewed hinauf as an adverb), and often viewed interjections as adverbs.

    Even some nouns looked to earlier grammarians like adverbs, or perhaps vice versa.

    In er kam abends, for example, abends might be seen as the genitive of the noun

    Abend. In other words, the boundaries of the adverb to virtually every other part

    of speech were as much in doubt in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries as today
    (McLelland 2008).

    The apparently basic question of the boundaries between the parts of speech still

    remains topical today, and answers vary depending on the linguistic theory

    followed. But at least the question of case has now been solved for German, with
    the four cases of nominative, accusative, dative and genitive (see Jellinek 1914:

    190-192). For early grammarians case too was a problem. In addition to the

    nominative, accusative, genitive and dative, Latin had twofurther cases: the

    vocative (a case used for addressing someone), and an ablative (used after some

    prepositions and in a number of other constructions). Shouldn’t German have these

    six cases like Latin, or at least five cases like Greek? Of the first three

    grammarians of German, Ölinger (1574) omitted the ablative but kept the vocative

    (as in Greek), while Albertus (1573) and Clajus (1578) found all six cases in

    German. The vocative could be recognized by the addition of o ____! (e.g. O Vater!)
    while the ablative looked identical to the dative but was recognizable because it

    was preceded by von. In the seventeenth century, both Olearius (1630) and

    Schottelius (1663) persisted in their belief in the ablative in German. After all,

    the dative meant the ‘giving’ case; patently von (‘from’) could not be followed by
    the giving case, and must govern the ‘taking-away’ case (the literal meaning
    of ablative) (Schottelius 1663:229). It was Aichinger (1753: 128-29) in the
    eighteenth century who first made the important decision that the fact that the
    forms were the same (e.g. the same ending after von as after prepositions like mit)
    was sufficient evidence that we are dealing with the same case. For Aichinger the
    sevisible signs – and not the semantics of the relationships between entities –
    were definitive (though not all later grammarians agreed). Adelung (1782) agreed

    with Aichinger, but did allow for a vocative case in a few limited instances only.

    By the mid-nineteenth century, however, grammarians assumed four cases for German.
    Modern Greek also has dropped one case from Ancient Greek and has only four nowadays, much like modern German grammar.

    Anyway, the Germans should start by forcing those imbecile Turks whom they host in Germany to learn German for a start...
    Only that way Greece will solve its inherent problems and get up its feet. I mean Germany can pour all the money of the world into Greece but if there is a hole at the bottom, nothing will get fixed.
    Nope. Germany should help Greece defend its' borders so that it can pump out >U.S.$1 trillion of gas and oil to help both Greece repay its' debt and Europe add a secure source of energy, and kick Turkey out of European affairs, and if necessary kick some Turks back to where they came from, as incapable to assimilate into the German society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petros Houhoulis View Post
    Actually the Germans didn't really want Greece in the European Economic Community. The French did, and the real reason Greece entered the E.U. was to create a distraction so that the Greeks would not pursue a war with Turkey after the Cyprus invasion.
    Is it that what they tell you? So the only reason Greece is in EU is as a gif to the Greek people that they didn't start a war with Turkey? That is what you said.

    If Greece didn't put his tail between his legs after failed Enosis and massacre of Turkish Cypriots. Greece would have lost west-Thrace to Turkey if they iniated a war and probably Greece would have to pay war reparations for starting illegal war. French or German wouldn't have any interest in withholding Greece sticking their hand in the grinder. It would made more sense if you said the British.

    Nope. Germany should help Greece defend its' borders so that it can pump out >U.S.$1 trillion of gas and oil to help both Greece repay its' debt and Europe add a secure source of energy, and kick Turkey out of European affairs, and if necessary kick some Turks back to where they came from, as incapable to assimilate into the German society.
    Greek population is 10 million, while Turkish population in Germany is 5 million. If Germany deports all Turks, German economy and EU economy would collapse. Turks are the ethnic group with most businesses in Europe. While Greeks are probably the lowest, there is no succesful business in Greece compared to Turkish businesses. Greek dream is based on taking debt on debt and bragging about how much other people's money you spend. Germans only hate Turks because they don't assimilate. Turks have superior culture, others will have to assimilate to us and they slowly do. For example, in Germany most popular dish is Doner Kebab. Not German wurst with beer.

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    Petros and others: I know this is a board for discussion and you have many valid points; but this is not Hayalet or Pechenwg or Kiyant: this is Hoca- and that means 100% swine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoca View Post
    Greek population is 10 million, while Turkish population in Germany is 5 million. If Germany deports all Turks, German economy and EU economy would collapse. Turks are the ethnic group with most businesses in Europe. While Greeks are probably the lowest, there is no succesful business in Greece compared to Turkish businesses. Germans only hate Turks because they don't assimilate. Turks have superior culture, others will have to assimilate to us. For example, in Germany most popular dish is Doner Kebab. Not German wurst with beer.
    http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenf...e-off-welfare/
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    BTW - you having a picture of Pyrrhus as your avatar is the Albanian equivalent of Michael Jackson bleaching his skin white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoca View Post
    Is it that what they tell you? So the only reason Greece is in EU is as a gif to the Greek people that they didn't start a war with Turkey? That is what you said.
    Actually this is not what anybody tells us. It does not exist in any official textbooks, but you can extrapolate it from the facts just as the massive immigration of Turks in Germany took place in order to alleviate the unbearable economic problems of Turkey and the Germans were lied upon that the Turks would only be visitors, and not permanent residents, again by Yankee orders and again for the sake of NATO.

    If Greece didn't put his tail between his legs after failed Enosis and massacre of Turkish Cypriots. Greece would have lost west-Thrace to Turkey if they iniated a war and probably Greece would have to pay war reparations for starting illegal war.
    If... In any case the Yankees did their best to prevent a war between Greece and Turkey. Greece would not pay reparations if Turkey refused to back down from Cyprus since no treaty gives to Turkey the right to control a portion of the island permanently, as it does.
    French or German wouldn't have any interest in withholding Greece sticking their hand in the grinder. It would made more sense if you said the British.
    French and German were still too weak back then, there was a cold war, and you still don't know how a military conflict would have ended. Your military was inexperienced and rather weak back then.
    Greek population is 10 million, while Turkish population in Germany is 5 million. If Germany deports all Turks, German economy and EU economy would collapse.
    Tell that to the Germans, they would be glad to replace all Turks in Germany with Europeans. Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians and Greeks can provide more than 5 million workers to Germany, not to mention Romanians and Bulgarians at 2014, not to mention that we can learn German too!
    Turks are the ethnic group with most businesses in Europe.
    So, Kebab shops is "business" now? You don't need more than 2*2 meters to run such a place!
    While Greeks are probably the lowest, there is no succesful business in Greece compared to Turkish businesses.
    In reality there are not that many Greek slaves to serve Greek billionaires like there are Turk slaves working for Turkish billionaires
    Greek dream is based on taking debt on debt and bragging about how much other people's money you spend.
    I am sure this is what they teach you in Turkey.
    Germans only hate Turks because they don't assimilate. Turks have superior culture, others will have to assimilate to us and they slowly do. For example, in Germany most popular dish is Doner Kebab. Not German wurst with beer.
    So, Doner Kebab is "superior" to German wurst with beer? The Turkish culture is superior to the German culture? Keep writing, you make my day...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis View Post
    Petros and others: I know this is a board for discussion and you have many valid points; but this is not Hayalet or Pechenwg or Kiyant: this is Hoca- and that means 100% swine.
    I just love it when he says openly that his retardation is better than the German culture. Don't you?

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