What's the problem between FYROM and Greece?

**Vullkan** · 07-24-2014, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by Queen B

You don't even know what a brain is .

Your copy-pasted texts make no sense, especially in the context you use them.
How you expect a response when you don't even make a sense.
You don't even realise that one of the wiki quote you posted, isn't even refering to Greeks, but to Turks

No my quote is perfectly fine .Me speak truth you brain slow .You understand

**Vullkan** · 07-24-2014, 07:12 AM

The populations exchange was considered ethnic cleansing for albanians.

**Faklon** · 07-24-2014, 07:15 AM

To answer the OP in simple terms,the main contemporary problem is with the name.

Fyrom/Vardaska/Slavic Macedonia/whatever is a relatively new nation that seeks an identity via ancient Macedonians,belonging barely to ancient Macedonian territory althought many of their people come from there.In the same time they learned to despise Bulgarians(with whom they share a lot of history) under Yugoslavia rooted mainly in the Balkan wars and Axis occupation.They aswell
root their claims on the conception/construction of the new Greek nation which itself has its flaws.

It's all part of the wider Byzantine legacy which you could more easily show if you didn't have to mess with internet Pericles such as Scholarios Chiotis.

**Scholarios** · 07-24-2014, 07:21 AM

Don't forget that their "Alexandrianism" is largely due to the fact that we half-Hellenized those in what they call "Aegean Macedonia" telling them they were descendants of Alexander and that they should fight the Bulgars and remain Patriarchists. In the meantime, we did sort of treat them like shit, and the commies took advantage of it. In the meantime, most of them that didn't go to Bulgaria were expelled or fled following the Civil War- which they lost when they tried to annex territory to Yugoslavia. Stalin traded Greece for Romania's Ploesti oil fields, otherwise we'd have witnessed an ethnic cleansing of native Greeks, Vlachs, and Pontian Greeks (either in 1949 or 1991)..

Greeks did not ethnically cleanse Jews. We did kill Turks and Bulgarians though... as they did to us.

Sidenote: As far as "Hellenization" goes. That's a pretty funny term. In the 1930's when Rebecca West visited Ochrid and the fortress of Tsar Samuil, she asked some peasant boys there who built the castle. They answered, "we don't know, some people a long time ago". Then West said, "well, what nation were they? "They scratched their heads...She followed up: "Well, were they Turks or Bulgarians?" They said, "no, not Turks...they were Christians" It didn't take much to Hellenize these people. Especially if you had a little bread and a little gold, and you carried an icon of Panagia Elleousa....

**Vullkan** · 07-24-2014, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis

Don't forget that their "Alexandrianism" is largely due to the fact that we half-Hellenized those in what they call "Aegean Macedonia" telling them they were descendants of Alexander and that they should fight the Bulgars and remain Patriarchists. In the meantime, we did sort of treat them like shit, and the commies took advantage of it. In the meantime, most of them that didn't go to Bulgaria were expelled or fled following the Civil War- which they lost when they tried to annex territory to Yugoslavia. Stalin traded Greece for Romania's Ploesti oil fields, otherwise we'd have witnessed an ethnic cleansing of native Greeks, Vlachs, and Pontian Greeks (either in 1949 or 1991)..

Greeks did not ethnically cleanse Jews. We did kill Turks and Bulgarians though... as they did to us.

Sidenote: As far as "Hellenization" goes. That's a pretty funny term. In the 1930's when Rebecca West visited Ochrid and the fortress of Tsar Samuil, she asked some peasant boys there who built the castle. They answered, "we don't know, some people a long time ago". Then West said, "well, what nation were they? "They scratched their heads...She followed up: "Well, were they Turks or Bulgarians?" They said, "no, not Turks...they were Christians" It didn't take much to Hellenize these people. Especially if you had a little bread and a little gold, and you carried an icon of Panagia Elleousa....

the video you posted begs to differ where are the jews in selanik.

**Vullkan** · 07-24-2014, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis

Don't forget that their "Alexandrianism" is largely due to the fact that we half-Hellenized those in what they call "Aegean Macedonia" telling them they were descendants of Alexander and that they should fight the Bulgars and remain Patriarchists. In the meantime, we did sort of treat them like shit, and the commies took advantage of it. In the meantime, most of them that didn't go to Bulgaria were expelled or fled following the Civil War- which they lost when they tried to annex territory to Yugoslavia. Stalin traded Greece for Romania's Ploesti oil fields, otherwise we'd have witnessed an ethnic cleansing of native Greeks, Vlachs, and Pontian Greeks (either in 1949 or 1991)..

Greeks did not ethnically cleanse Jews. We did kill Turks and Bulgarians though... as they did to us.

Sidenote: As far as "Hellenization" goes. That's a pretty funny term. In the 1930's when Rebecca West visited Ochrid and the fortress of Tsar Samuil, she asked some peasant boys there who built the castle. They answered, "we don't know, some people a long time ago". Then West said, "well, what nation were they? "They scratched their heads...She followed up: "Well, were they Turks or Bulgarians?" They said, "no, not Turks...they were Christians" It didn't take much to Hellenize these people. Especially if you had a little bread and a little gold, and you carried an icon of Panagia Elleousa....

What about albanians why did u kill them in 1910

**Faklon** · 07-24-2014, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis

Sidenote: As far as "Hellenization" goes. That's a pretty funny term. In the 1930's when Rebecca West visited Ochrid and the fortress of Tsar Samuil, she asked some peasant boys there who built the castle. They answered, "we don't know, some people a long time ago". Then West said, "well, what nation were they? "They scratched their heads...She followed up: "Well, were they Turks or Bulgarians?" They said, "no, not Turks...they were Christians" It didn't take much to Hellenize these people. Especially if you had a little bread and a little gold, and you carried an icon of Panagia Elleousa....

Don't quote the book I posted Gasmule.

**Drawing-slim** · 07-24-2014, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by xhondoe

two fake nations claiming heritage of alexanders .Greece no respect for minority known for ethnic cleansing minorities macedonia fake nation soon to be thirld albanian state .

Solution one must go back to africa one must go to siberia.

Indeed.

**Scholarios** · 07-24-2014, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by xhondoe

the video you posted begs to differ where are the jews in selanik.

What happened to them is same what happened in Warsaw and Minsk and Paris and Pristina....Hundreds of Greeks have been recognized as "Righteous among gentiles" for their efforts to rescue Jews...The Greek Resistance to the Axis was one of the most successful of the War as well... (for instance, the Greek resistance killed about 4000 German and Axis personell in 1943-1944- greater than the total for the entire French Resistance from 1940-1945. Despite the fact that German occupation in Greece was much more brutal in Greece than in France...)