Eurogenes ANE K7 - post your results

**Jackson** · 10-31-2014, 05:40 PM

WHG is interesting in my family, average for my mother's side is 61.32 which is fairly normal-low overall i guess. Interesting difference between my Grandmother and Grandfather in ANE though, Grandfather has a full 1.96% more ANE, although she has the highest of the WHG in all my family. I guess she just has more pre Indo-European ancestry, slightly.

**~~DanielJ1eH~~** · 10-31-2014, 05:43 PM

East African would just be noise since it's not consistent. I follow consistent results. It doesn't matter if one calculator is more ancient than another one.

**Jackson** · 10-31-2014, 05:49 PM

Actually just realised the results have changed since i last posted, here are my new ones. Less noisy by the looks of it:

Me:
ANE 15.30%
ASE 1.90%
WHG-UHG 61.02%
East_Eurasian -
West_African -
East_African 1.48%
ENF 20.29%
Dad:
ANE 14.93%
ASE 2.35%
WHG-UHG 63.81%
East_Eurasian 0.26%
West_African 0.25%
East_African 0.17%
ENF 18.23%
Paternal Grandfather:
ANE 16.09%
ASE 1.98%
WHG-UHG 64.12%
East_Eurasian -
West_African -
East_African 0.46%
ENF 17.35%
Paternal Grandmother:
ANE 14.31%
ASE 2.96%
WHG-UHG 65.13%
East_Eurasian 0.18%
West_African 0.57%
East_African -
ENF 16.85%
Mother:
ANE 15.71%
ASE 1.99%
WHG-UHG 60.09%
East_Eurasian -
West_African -
East_African 1.16%
ENF 21.05%

Aunt:
ANE 14.96%
ASE 1.85%
WHG-UHG 62.88%
East_Eurasian 0.53%
West_African -
East_African 0.76%
ENF 18.97%

**Not a Cop** · 10-31-2014, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by Jackson

Actually just realised the results have changed since i last posted, here are my new ones. Less noisy by the looks of it:

What's ASE?

Population
ANE 20.13%
ASE 2.92%
WHG-UHG 63.63%
East_Eurasian 2.89%
West_African 0.58%
East_African 0.34%
ENF 9.51%

**Longbowman** · 10-31-2014, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by Not a Cop

What's ASE?

The stuff Aryans are made of.

**Not a Cop** · 10-31-2014, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Jusarius

I did the DIY Oracle for K7 that is only relevant for Finnish/Finnic people due to the limited amount of population results included. This is what I got:

1 Karelian @ 1,341926
2 Vepsa @ 1,674734
3 Finnish-East @ 2,843201
4 Finnish-Southwest @ 6,077127
5 Russian-Upper-Volga @ 7,181434
6 Estonian @ 7,661651
7 Russian-North @ 8,49786
8 Balt @ 9,868197
9 Russian-North-West @ 10,003284

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Estonian+Karelian+Karelian+Vepsa @ 1,273848
2 Estonian+Karelian+Vepsa+Vepsa @ 1,287621
3 Estonian+Karelian+Karelian+Karelian @ 1,311289
4 Karelian+Karelian+Karelian+Karelian @ 1,341926
5 Finnish-East+Karelian+Karelian+Karelian @ 1,349376

This is not surprising as my father is from an area that is called Savo-Karelia.

Can you give me a link to this Finnic calc?

**Jackson** · 10-31-2014, 06:02 PM

Hungarian Neolithic Individual (NE5):
ANE -
ASE -
WHG-UHG 54.43%
East_Eurasian -
West_African -
East_African -
ENF 45.57%

Hungarian Neolithic Individual (NE7):
ANE -
ASE -
WHG-UHG 59.98%
East_Eurasian -
West_African -
East_African -
ENF 40.02%

Hungarian Copper Age individual:

ANE -
ASE -
WHG-UHG 60.38%
East_Eurasian -
West_African -
East_African -
ENF 39.62%

Hungarian Iron Age Individual:

ANE 18.36%
ASE -
WHG-UHG 57.41%
East_Eurasian 1.39%
West_African -
East_African -
ENF 22.83%

**Jackson** · 10-31-2014, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by Not a Cop

What's ASE?

Population
ANE 20.13%
ASE 2.92%
WHG-UHG 63.63%
East_Eurasian 2.89%
West_African 0.58%
East_African 0.34%
ENF 9.51%

I think it's Ancestral South Eurasian.

From Eurogenes blog:

Ancestral South Eurasian (ASE): this is a really basal cluster that peaks in tribal groups of Southeast Asia. It's probably very similar in some ways to the Ancestral South Indian (ASI) component described by Reich et al. a few years ago.

Western European/Unknown Hunter-Gatherer (WHG-UHG): this essentially looks like a West Eurasian forager component, and includes the forager-like stuff carried by Neolithic farmers (Oetzi the Iceman has 40% of it).

Early Neolithic Farmer (ENF): I'd say that this is the component of the earliest Neolithic farmers from the Fertile Crescent.

**Longbowman** · 10-31-2014, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by Longbowman

The stuff Aryans are made of.

Ah I thought you wrote 'ANE.' My joke doesn't work as well now.

Ancient South Asian, more SE than Indian.

**~~DanielJ1eH~~** · 10-31-2014, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by Jackson

Actually just realised the results have changed since i last posted, here are my new ones. Less noisy by the looks of it:

Me:
ANE 15.30%
ASE 1.90%
WHG-UHG 61.02%
East_Eurasian -
West_African -
East_African 1.48%
ENF 20.29%
Dad:
ANE 14.93%
ASE 2.35%
WHG-UHG 63.81%
East_Eurasian 0.26%
West_African 0.25%
East_African 0.17%
ENF 18.23%
Paternal Grandfather:
ANE 16.09%
ASE 1.98%
WHG-UHG 64.12%
East_Eurasian -
West_African -
East_African 0.46%
ENF 17.35%
Paternal Grandmother:
ANE 14.31%
ASE 2.96%
WHG-UHG 65.13%
East_Eurasian 0.18%
West_African 0.57%
East_African -
ENF 16.85%
Mother:
ANE 15.71%
ASE 1.99%
WHG-UHG 60.09%
East_Eurasian -
West_African -
East_African 1.16%
ENF 21.05%

Aunt:
ANE 14.96%
ASE 1.85%
WHG-UHG 62.88%
East_Eurasian 0.53%
West_African -
East_African 0.76%
ENF 18.97%

The EAST African is messed up. What do you score it on other runs? Also why is north African not an option on this test.