American use of depleted uranium and effects on the Iraqi civil population

[soonhope]

You are under the impression that Americans killed 1.5 million Iraqis? I explained to you my experience. If you choose to believe propaganda from the side of terrorists, that's your choice, I suppose. I'm fully aware of Turkey's approach to Kurds, so let's not get all "my culture's more morally correct than yours"...

What is Turkey's perspective on the Kurds? Will you enlighten me? Are you saying that Turkey killed the Kurds? If you are talking about the terrorist organizations on the border, all the soldiers of those terrorist organizations are legionnaires, they have nothing to do with the Kurds, these terrorist organizations survive with the financing of some states. In short, the Kurds are not as you know. OK?

[JosephK]

What is Turkey's perspective on the Kurds? Will you enlighten me? Are you saying that Turkey killed the Kurds? If you are talking about the terrorist organizations on the border, all the soldiers of those terrorist organizations are legionnaires, they have nothing to do with the Kurds, these terrorist organizations survive with the financing of some states. In short, the Kurds are not as you know. OK?

Then you see my point. Thank you. You have no idea what went on in Iraq, or apparently, why so many people have been killed there. I fully support Turkey's policy on Kurdish terrorists, insofar as I understand it.

[soonhope]

Then you see my point. Thank you. You have no idea what went on in Iraq, or apparently, why so many people have been killed there. I fully support Turkey's policy on Kurdish terrorists, insofar as I understand it.

No, those terrorists are not Kurds. Also, these are terrorist organizations supported by the United States. I don't understand how you support Turkey. Besides, you say that you are fighting terrorist organizations there, I wonder who financed al-Qaeda? Most likely, America has fought the organizations it founded or supported for years, very good excuses to invade. With what right does America interfere in the internal affairs of Iraq? With what right? It causes the death of so many people.

[JosephK]

No, those terrorists are not Kurds. Also, these are terrorist organizations supported by the United States. I don't understand how you support Turkey. Besides, you say that you are fighting terrorist organizations there, I wonder who financed al-Qaeda? Most likely, America has fought the organizations it founded or supported for years, very good excuses to invade. With what right does America interfere in the internal affairs of Iraq? With what right? It causes the death of so many people.

That's the point, why do you think you understand more about the Iraq war (and post-war) than the people actually involved? You do not understand what was going on.
I was trying to say that I understand why Turkey would see a threat from certain people on its borders that it calls terrorists, but that the US supports--inasmuch as I understand it.

[soonhope]

America and the racist fascist European countries did the same in Afghanistan... they did not pay this price in any way... If there is a Taliban in Afghanistan right now, it is America and the Western countries that are to blame.

[JosephK]

America and the racist fascist European countries did the same in Afghanistan... they did not pay this price in any way... If there is a Taliban in Afghanistan right now, it is America and the Western countries that are to blame.

Enough with the "racist, fascist" crap, that's not why these things happen. You should know how Taliban came into existence, which had little to do with the West; as for its current success in Afghanistan, you are probably correct.

[soonhope]

Enough with the "racist, fascist" crap, that's not why these things happen. You should know how Taliban came into existence, which had little to do with the West; as for its current success in Afghanistan, you are probably correct.

If there is America, there is Europe. If there is no America or if it was on that continent, very bad things could happen in Europe... I think Europe is dependent on America and its occupations. Is Venezuela the next target?

[JosephK]

If there is America, there is Europe. If there is no America or if it was on that continent, very bad things could happen in Europe... I think Europe is dependent on America and its occupations. Is Venezuela the next target?

Do you mean militarily? I agree to some extent, that Europe relies on the US (thus NATO), even though it's a false hope, a false sense of security since the US is not good at war; as you know, the US does not win wars so much as cause chaos, but we've convinced people we can protect them (thus the horrific situations in Iraq, Ukraine, etc).

Although personally I don't see that Venezuela presents any real kind of threat to the US as does Russia or Middle Eastern terrorism-- not enough for real military action

[Faklon]

The Balkans

Sites in Kosovo and southern Central Serbia where NATO aviation used depleted uranium during the 1999 Kosovo War.
In 2001, the World Health Organization reported that data from Kosovo was inconclusive and called for further studies.That same year, governments of several European countries, particularly Italy, reported an increase in illnesses and developments of cancers among veterans that served in Balkan peacekeeping missions.

A 2003 study by the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) in Bosnia and Herzegovina stated that low levels of contaminant were found in drinking water and air particulate at DU penetrator impact points. The levels were stated as not a cause for alarm. Yet, Pekka Haavisto, chairman of the UNEP DU projects stated, "The findings of this study stress again the importance of appropriate clean-up and civil protection measures in a post-conflict situation."

A team of Italian scientists from the University of Siena reported in 2005 that, although DU was "clearly" added to the soil in the study area, "the phenomenon was very limited spatially and the total uranium concentrations fell within the natural range of the element in soils. Moreover, the absolute uranium concentrations indicate that there was no contamination of the earthworm species studied."

In 2018, Serbia set up a commission of inquiry into the consequences of the use of depleted uranium during the 1999 NATO bombing of Yugoslavia in southern Serbia and its link to the rise of diseases and tumors among citizens, particularly in young children born after 1999. NATO has repeatedly claimed that depleted uranium found in the ammunition used in the 1999 bombardments cannot be linked to adverse health effects.

I just remembered that in the army we had some containers from Kosovo for which there was a legend that they were radioactive.

I'm not sure if it is true but interesting nevertheless.

[Hexachordia]

The use of depleted nuclear weapons is a sign of malice, not just something for expediency of strategy. And radical wahhabists are western allies do not underestimate this fact, radical wahhabists and the west act togather in the whole mess from Iraq to Afganistan.

ROME -- U.S. President Joe Biden joined Pope Francis and a leading Sunni imam on Friday in calling for greater global cooperation to fight the coronavirus pandemic, climate change and other world crises on the second anniversary of a landmark Christian-Muslim peace initiative.

The Vatican released a statement from Biden marking the International Day of Human Fraternity, a U.N.-designated celebration of interfaith and multicultural understanding inspired by a landmark document signed on Feb. 4, 2019, in Abu Dhabi by Francis and Sheikh Ahmad al-Tayyeb, the imam of the Al-Azhar center for Sunni learning in Cairo.

Da brazaz of occultism. The west is on a permanent conquest of the world, every inch of land will be conquered and reconquered again in one way other another, this just never stops. Men, probably by only becoming a cesspool worker in India as untocuhables can ensure "peace and love" in this world. In this world, gotta ready for the worst as always.