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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Doctors, because their studies and training requires broader and deeper knowledge, in theory should be able to do far more things than nurses. That being said, I agree.
    Medical surgeries and hospitals could (just about) work without nurses, but without doctors they'd be almost totally useless. (For things like feeding and moving around patients, you can use the porters for that, and even operating ECG and scan machines only requires a technician, provided that actual doctors can properly interpret the results).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Medical surgeries and hospitals could (just about) work without nurses, but without doctors they'd be almost totally useless. (For things like feeding and moving around patients, you can use the porters for that, and even operating ECG and scan machines only requires a technician, provided that actual doctors can properly interpret the results).
    I'd like to see how long a hospital run by only doctors, porters and technicians lasts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazimiera View Post
    I'd like to see how long a hospital run by only doctors, porters and technicians lasts.
    Yeah, I think I was exaggerating somewhat. However, I still maintain that a hospital without nurses would not be AS dysfunctional and pointless as one without doctors.

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    I don't get the hang on this particular doctor/nurse, but anyway... in construction i would say a lot of master engineers or project managers would be able to do the actual construction work or operate the machinery, but not the other way around when it comes to managing a worksite and put to reality blueprints. Architects is where i would draw the line (they don't know how to plant a nail).

    In motoracing or car developpement, a factory driver needs to posess a deep understanding of vehicule dynamics, mechanic and setups, since he will request his own adjustments. Not the the extent of actual engineer and skilled mechanics but for sure most wouldn't be able to drive and provide the feedback if roles were reversed.

    Just two i can think of right now, there are a lot more, it's a matter of degree. Not all but many professions tend to be evolutive, in the sense that you begin there by working at the lower echelon and climb up, so in the end everything you ask to now subordinates is something you ve already done yourself professionally. That's why some areas value more experience than diplomas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    I don't get the hang on this particular doctor/nurse, but anyway... in construction i would say a lot of master engineers or project managers would be able to do the actual construction work or operate the machinery, but not the other way around when it comes to managing a worksite and put to reality blueprints. Architects is where i would draw the line (they don't know how to plant a nail).

    In motoracing or car developpement, a factory driver needs to posess a deep understanding of vehicule dynamics, mechanic and setups, since he will request his own adjustments. Not the the extent of actual engineer and skilled mechanics but for sure most wouldn't be able to drive and provide the feedback if roles were reversed.

    Just two i can think of right now, there are a lot more, it's a matter of degree. Not all but many professions tend to be evolutive, in the sense that you begin there by working at the lower echelon and climb up, so in the end everything you ask to now subordinates is something you ve already done yourself professionally.
    Interesting suggestions thanks. But what's wrong with my doctor/nurse suggestion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Yeah, I think I was exaggerating somewhat. However, I still maintain that a hospital without nurses would not be AS dysfunctional and pointless as one without doctors.
    Nonsense. There are facilities that are 100% nurse-run without a doctor in sight. At least in SA. I worked at few of these myself and we were just fine without doctors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazimiera View Post
    Nonsense. There are facilities that are 100% nurse-run without a doctor in sight. At least in SA. I worked at few of these myself and we were just fine without doctors.
    But there are many tasks that only doctors can do, most especially diagnosing several medical conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    But there are many tasks that only doctors can do, most especially diagnosing several medical conditions.
    I would agree with you "roughly" but it isnt %100 correct. There are a few things that doctors arent trained for but nurses are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hektor12 View Post
    I would agree with you "roughly" but it isnt %100 correct. There are a few things that doctors arent trained for but nurses are.
    If you mean taking blood samples and giving vaccines, even though doctors might not be accustomed to it I think they still would have been trained at some point to do it.

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