Hairy & Anthropology

[Saruman]

Anatolians have always been a mix of asian and semitic. There are no original anatolians.

Anadolid type proper is a mix of Armenoid with Mediterranid, not Mongoloid or "Semitic".

[Osweo]

It is about a racial form's potential for higher development, biologically and culturally, its ability to stand competition individually and in groups based on the inherited racial traits in comparison to other racial forms.
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For humans, especially the progressive kind, its first about being able to compete with other humans and just secondly to be "best adapted to the environment", because the competition with other humans makes a race usually more intelligent, versatile, effective, attractive etc.,

But Agrippa, aren't nordids as often as not the worst offenders when it comes to the mad suicidal trajectories our peoples are presently on? Is it not from their ranks that many of the most fanatical multikultists are drawn?
Might we not even be able to say that the nordid is fundamentally unsuited for competition in a multiethnic society, where advantage is won through ability to cheat the system, rather than defend its rules and ideals?

Looking around at nordids I know, there's a lack of a certain realistic cynical viscerality, in comparison with the 'less refined' subtypes like myself... Perhaps nordids are more a liability than anything else!

like all racial forms which dominate biodynamic centres are - one sided climatic adaptation produces often the opposite or at least a lack of qualities in certain fields.

Does that phrase refer to zones in geographic space where there are more contacts in each direction? If so, the nordids can be seen to occupy a far more peripheral territory.

The Middle East is the contact zone par excellence, and well, look who we're being colonised by...

[Inese]

I mean if a person would prefer a dumb, genetically degenerated and fugly potential partner from the own ethnicity over a high standing, highly intelligent, biologically potent and beautiful partner of another, something is going wrong in this person...

Hello? Beautyness is individual a man from a other ethnicity can be high standing or highly intelligent as it gets but i would never do something with him!! I tell you, your sentence is dangerous.

Dark haired man are more hairy and Nordic people are less hairy ---- that is a absolut fact

[Saruman]

But Agrippa, aren't nordids as often as not the worst offenders when it comes to the mad suicidal trajectories our peoples are presently on? Is it not from their ranks that many of the most fanatical multikultists are drawn?

Maybe, schyzothimic people are often extreme in their views for ex. I'm not Nordid but I'm quite schyzothimic and well I always have very extreme views and positions, that is I would go "head against the wall" for something I believe.

Might we not even be able to say that the nordid is fundamentally unsuited for competition in a multiethnic society, where advantage is won through ability to cheat the system, rather than defend its rules and ideals?

The point is, I have seen potential connection of some types for ex. with corruption etc, if one idealistic man cannot defend him self from deceivers and backstabbers, and well we see today that such people are the norm, then I'm forced to conclude that deceiving and backstabbing is superior. Those are "hits below the belt", and in the absence of referee, who will react upon them, no one, so one has to be ready for them or fail.
Similarly there is no substitute for an ability to successfully defend it self from an outside assault for any society, as Romans said "if you want peace prepare for war". So you must be prepared for anything, that's evolution too, who wins, wins, no matter which way he uses for achieving it, in the end win is all that is important.

[Agrippa]

About the selection of light hair coloration:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...4&postcount=13

What the fuck is this shit ? What are these crappy circles ? Who made this shit ? What have French, Spaniards, Italians to do with North Africans or Turks ?

What do you mean by original anatolians, north africans, phoenicians ? And there is no such thing as mediterranean type. There is atlanto-med, east-med, dinaric-med, but not pure mediterranean

One could ask if that is some sort of irony actually, because you always added "med" - that is the Mediterranid subrace and there are Mediterranid subtypes, like Atlantomediterranid, Pontid, Gracilmediterranid, Eastmediterranid, Southmediterranid, Saharid etc. in my scheme.

But in the end, they are all Mediterranid, bound together by some basic traits, like Skandonordid, Eastnordid, etc., or Westalpinid, Borreby/Northalpinoid, Eastalpinid, Asian Alpinoid etc.

The same/similar basic adaptation, like explained here:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11365

There I also showed what progressive, infantile, primitive traits in modern humans are.

Anatolians have always been a mix of asian and semitic. There are no original anatolians.

Well, the original Neolithic variants in Anatolia were basically Mediterranid, even rather tall-robust-progressive Mediterranids, similar to Atlanto-Pontid variants.

Always keep that in mind if talking about the original formation and distribution of the racial types, which happened mostly in the Neolithic phase. If looking at "the circles" you can easily see, that the Nordid distribution is today more shifted to the West too, things changed obviously and the graphic limitations are always present, it should be just a rough approximation, don't go for small regions - it is a more global outlook.

But Agrippa, aren't nordids as often as not the worst offenders when it comes to the mad suicidal trajectories our peoples are presently on? Is it not from their ranks that many of the most fanatical multikultists are drawn?
Might we not even be able to say that the nordid is fundamentally unsuited for competition in a multiethnic society, where advantage is won through ability to cheat the system, rather than defend its rules and ideals?

Looking around at nordids I know, there's a lack of a certain realistic cynical viscerality, in comparison with the 'less refined' subtypes like myself... Perhaps nordids are more a liability than anything else!

They are more group, standard oriented and strive for social acceptance and status. Simple put, especially the more intelligent-energetic Schizothymes, even more so those of the Nordoid variants, want to "be good" and "achieve something".

"Altruists" are nowadays more prone to be Cultural Marxist indoctrinated and "achievers" by Liberalcapitalism or a combination of Liberalcapitalism with some sort of "altruist belief"

So being an altruistic achiever doesn't pay off nowadays, but only for the system, not for the variants in question - thats why contraselection, dysgenic trends kill both altruists in general and altruistic achievers in particular, because they tend to participate in society rather selfishless or at least try to get up to the higher ranks or with an achievement in a "more honest" way - but even if they want to live life at its full as Hedomats, then too they will do that more consequently and in all cases get less children and being largely adapted to what society offers. Because revolutionaries they are only are if they really see the injustice and problems in such a way they can no longer ignore and see that what they believed it was all a lie.

Many less aspiring variants just don't care as much, in this or another system, so they are less enthusiastic for any form of idea, ideology, belief or the like, but "just live their simple life" with criticism here and there from a rather personal point of view.

The problem of group oriented individuals - and their strength, is that they can believe in something and really change their behaviour, at least if being affected early on...

This system is made to abuse that energy and drive they have, one has to understand that. If they would be in a collective organisation, they would sacrifice themselves on a higher level and effectively for the success of their bloodline and group, which is exactly what they did in the past and which was part of their success.

Today it is with Nordids and Europeans in general a problem in Liberalcapitalism.

Does that phrase refer to zones in geographic space where there are more contacts in each direction? If so, the nordids can be seen to occupy a far more peripheral territory.

The Middle East is the contact zone par excellence, and well, look who we're being colonised by

Biodynamic centres are usually defined by sending people rather than receiving then and at the same time having a high level competition in the territory and the ressources to support a significant force.

Regions can change their status in time, f.e. in the Neolithic phase Northern Europe was a dependent colonisation zone so to say, but in the Iron Age it became a major player in Europe, especially after the formation of the Germanic people.

Great biodynamic centres are f.e. the Eurasian steppe, the fertile river valleys like that of Egypt, Mesopotamia, India, China etc., but also the ones in Europe, like the Danube, Rhine, etc.

Usually, the progressive types expanded along the rivers, coastlines or into the fertile-flat, open lands. They avoided, as a rule, woodlands, swamps and the like. This is very evident if comparing pre-Indoeuropean and Indoeuropean Neolithic-Metal Age colonists in Europe with usually progressive racial traits with archaic-Cromagnoid hunter gatherer rests.

Interesting is in this regards is also how suitable a region can be for various forms of subsistence. This study is far from perfect and made some mistakes, coincidentally based on what is vs. what could be (if the soil would be used more effectively) in my opinion, but still its interesting to compare:


http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2010/05...c-destiny.html

Note that the best combination is that for pastoralists or mixed economy/farming - tillers are worse off, hunter gatherer regions usually don't support a huge population.

Actually, one of the main exceptions from the basic rule are the Sinids which seem to have adapted to large settlements with plagues and social stress, eating mostly vegetables, working unergonomically hard etc., but still they managed to keep in the Nordsinid Hwangho core area a high racial, and of course cultural standard. That is really interesting, as they are less sensitive than other progressive racial types to negative stress-dysgenic factors it seems, which their culture supports as well - they got the stronger dysgenic trend just recently imported with the Western culture...

[Oinakos Growion]

Why Portugal and Galicia are not inside the red circle?

Well, Galicia and Portugal (namely North Portugal - north of Douro river) are not Mediterranean in culture. Let aside strictly obvious geographical issues.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Europe

Dark haired man are more hairy and Nordic people are less hairy ---- that is a absolut fact

General trend, maybe. "Absolute fact"... I beg to disagree

[Agrippa]

The Atlantic West was settled by both Mediterranid and Nordid, which formed the Atlantid-Nordatlantid transition - and one could ask whether an Atlantomediterranid influence made it from the West to the North too - which was transformed into Nordid with other elements which colonised the North.

Hello? Beautyness is individual a man from a other ethnicity can be high standing or highly intelligent as it gets but i would never do something with him!! I tell you, your sentence is dangerous.

Obviously, beauty is not everything, but I mentioned a whole list of traits and seriously, in the end, what matters most for a bloodline AND the group is the result.

And with result I mean the children, grandchilden etc. in this case. So everything depends on what they are or could be. Obviously, if someone prefers to ruin his bloodline or stay childless, thats his/her decision, but thats hardly something one could recommend, because its abiological.

The group however has to decide which individuals it accepts and which not - again this should be based how integrable and how beneficial an individual is.

Obviously, a high standing mix of let's say German-Latvian is more valuable for the group than a degenerated "pure German" - with the latter having his birth right etc., but it's all about the group getting stronger, healthier, competitive - what can an individual bring into the group, what can he or she provide - genetically, culturally, economically, for the defense, ideologically etc.

There is no problem in assimilation, as long as the assimilated parts are AT LEAST at the same level as the indigenous, but rather significantly above it.

The main problem in European nations today is that a large part of the foreigners is neither integrable (not related, not adapted to the environment in a favourable way etc.) nor on a higher level than the autochthonous population, even on the contrary - and of course, no influx of foreigners should result in the displacement of the autochthonous bloodlines.

Individually, I would - in certain limits - always recommend to take the best partner you can get and have a happy life with, unless this decision is harmful for the group.

The latter can't be decided by every individiual, since they lack knowledge and consciousness, but by the group and its leadership-experts which care for the greater whole.

[Foxy]

What the fuck is this shit ? What are these crappy circles ? Who made this shit ? What have French, Spaniards, Italians to do with North Africans or Turks ?

I must agree with him: Italians, Spaniards, Greeks and Balcanians are indoeuropeans, not Africans nor semites nor Turkish. We are brunettes europeans with - in general - sweeter features than nordids but shorter

[Agrippa]

I must agree with him: Italians, Spaniards, Greeks and Balcanians are indoeuropeans, not Africans nor semites nor Turkish. We are brunettes europeans with - in general - sweeter features than nordids but shorter

Indoeuropean, African and Turkish is no race though, there are Indoeuropeans which are mostly Armenid Near Easterners like the Armenians, or Europid-Weddid mixed like some Indoaryan tribes.

Also there are Turks which are Pontid, Dinarid, Alpinoid etc. and Semits which are Nordoid.

Generally speaking, Europeans have their own racial make up and Indoeuropeans played a big part in the racial and obviously even more ethnocultural make up of Europe - even some non-Indoeuropean people like Hungarians and Estonians f.e. have more Indoeuropean influences than some Indoeuropean ones - genetically-racially at least and culturally if talking about European Indoeuropeans too actually, so thats all complicated.

Surely Southern Europeans clearly cluster with other Europeans, but that doesn't mean there are no relations to people outside of Europe and like others already said, North Africa and the Near East changed significantly.

Just look at this study:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16427

Especially because of the Semitic expansion and Negrid slave trade, but also because of regional racial changes f.e. in Anatolia, in which happened a shift from pred. Mediterranid to Anadolid-Armenoid-Alpinoid - with the exception of some coastal regions and the Iranid herder-warrior East (Iranian Kurds).

Its false to expect continuity in every case, the first inhabitants of Northern Europe were not the same as the current Scandinavians neither - the change was even bigger there than in Anatolia, but still in Anatolia things changed a lot, less so because of immigration-genflow, though that happened too, but more because of the habitat and selection changed...

[Oinakos Growion]

The Atlantic West was settled by both Mediterranid and Nordid, which formed the Atlantid-Nordatlantid transition - and one could ask whether an Atlantomediterranid influence made it from the West to the North too - which was transformed into Nordid with other elements which colonised the North

Sure. And vice-versa, as for centuries there were intense sea links in the Atlantic West, from South to North and North to South, with contributions from inland of course.