Where do atheists come from?

[Apollonaris]

Quibble. You do not admit to belief in anything other than what might be scientifically understood.

More than a quibble, I'm afraid, since that was your entire point:

It would seem difficult to believe in nothing. The Universe is a bit more than nothing. If you are on the M1 North of London or I-10 near LA it is best to stay in the centre lane.

You appear to be conflating a disbelief in the supernatural with a disbelief in the existence of the universe. Which makes absolutely no sense. Atheists have worldviews, it's just that they don't include the supernatural in that worldview, since there's no good reason to believe it's true.

In any case, a belief in nothing is not a belief by definition. To posit the existence of something without even bothering to provide proof of its existence or any kind of evidence is mysticism and superstition, pure and simple. Are we to resort to visions and speaking in tongues? How else are we to understand the world around us if not by rational inquiry and scientific investigation? And understanding is the beginning of wisdom, is it not?

[Quasimodem]

I thought the answer was "Hell", but I was wrong. I'm going to have to choose a better Sunday School to attend, I suppose.

[Johnston]

Apollonaris, Hitler's allegiance to religion is as dubious as Henry VIII's.

[Apollonaris]

Apollonaris, Hitler's allegiance to religion is as dubious as Henry VIII's.

Prove it. I've provided evidence to the contrary.

[Edelmann]

Atheism simply asserts that there is no evidence for the existence of the supernatural. Far from being an "extremist" position, as you so casually assert, it is an eminently reasonable position.

Do you deny that atheist "extremists" exist? Are there not people who would prefer to force atheism on society? He never said all atheists were like this, but some clearly are...

[Apollonaris]

Do you deny that atheist "extremists" exist? Are there not people who would prefer to force atheism on society? He never said all atheists were like this, but some clearly are...

What's your definition of extremist? As far as I know, there are no atheist suicide bombers.

[Steal]

From theists

[Johnston]

Prove it. I've provided evidence to the contrary.

What evidence is that?

Everybody acquainted with Hitler's biography knows he was ambivalent about religion, and some would say self-contradictory. This is exactly how you could say Henry VIII was. Hitler supported the Pope because he was Austrian, which upset the Germans, who were Lutheran. Henry VIII supported the Pope and this upset Luther himself. Both repudiated the form of Christianity they were raised in, while you repudiate it altogether.

Critics of one ideology can bash it and then find themselves supporting it. Some cannot make up their minds and go back and forth. This is nothing new.

I bet you have changed your mind before, or am I wrong? Are you a bigot? You seem to be more dogmatic about Hitler and religion and general than even he was about religion, but perhaps his dogmatism about Jews was stronger than yours concerning religion.



Your signature is irrelevant. Jesus does not have to save me in order for me to consider *Him* to be the Son. I also believe Alexander the Great was a demigod. I see no contradiction here. I do not care one way or the other about John 3:16. You can obsess if you like.

Also, Epicurus does not condemn what he does not understand. You misuse him to do so for your own agenda.

[Neanderthal]

What evidence is that?

Everybody acquainted with Hitler's biography knows he was ambivalent about religion, and some would say self-contradictory. This is exactly how you could say Henry VIII was.

Critics of one ideology can bash it and then find themselves supporting it. Some cannot make up their minds and go back and forth. This is nothing new. I bet you have changed your mind before, or am I wrong? Are you a bigot?

Sure he is.

[Johnston]

What evidence is that?

Some cannot make up their minds and go back and forth. This is nothing new.

I bet you have changed your mind before, or am I wrong? Are you a bigot? You can obsess if you like.

Sure he is.