Distribution of Y-chromosome DNA (Y-DNA) haplogroups of ethnic Macedonians

[Rethel]

I am not psychic and cannot read into your posts aside the insults.

[poiuytrewq0987]

Will you create substantial posts or are you going to just troll me?

[wvwvw]

I is not Germanic, silly. It had a single core population that originated somewhere in MENA-Asia. This origin population migrated to Europe through Central Asia over the centuries. Eventually, this group arrived in what is today's Belarus and Ukraine, and another group broke off and continued on to Scandinavia. Hence, the separation of I into I1 and I2. I1 IS Germanic, but I2 is not.

Europeans are divided into two categories, those who originated from Asia and those who originated from Anatolia and Northern Syria. The Germanic, Greek and Hittite languages split from Phoenician 80,000 years ago and were introduced to Europe 10,000 years ago with the first farmers. It was this group that were the IE speakers. The Slavs like the Hungarians who are of the same M17 DNA linage originally spoke and Altaic like all the other M17 lineages of central Asia. Latin was also a language that split form the Altaic-Chinese-Native-American super group since M17 is a derivative of M173 which evolved 17,000 years ago and original M173 evolved from M45 the same lineage as the Native Americans 30,000 years ago.

[Scholarios]

Wtf

[poiuytrewq0987]

Europeans are divided into two categories, those who originated from Asia and those who originated from Anatolia and Northern Syria. The Germanic, Greek and Hittite languages split from Phoenician 80,000 years ago and were introduced to Europe 10,000 years ago with the first farmers. It was this group that were the IE speakers. The Slavs like the Hungarians who are of the same M17 DNA linage originally spoke and Altaic like all the other M17 lineages of central Asia. Latin was also a language that split form the Altaic-Chinese-Native-American super group since M17 is a derivative of M173 which evolved 17,000 years ago and original M173 evolved from M45 the same lineage as the Native Americans 30,000 years ago.

Are you really writing this stuff or are you just copy and pasting this from a conspiracy/Greek supremacist website?

[wvwvw]

Are you really writing this stuff or are you just copy and pasting this from a conspiracy/Greek supremacist website?

What is supremacist about that? If anything it is anti-supremacist.

[Rethel]

Will you create substantial posts or are you going to just troll me?

I have no idea what you want to say by this troll map, but this
is mostly a fantasy map made up many years ago from clean air.
None relevance to known history neither ethnology - only couple
of points on the map with fictional localizations. BUT even if this
would be true - how it contradicts with corelation with groups of
people? Now you are trolling.

Arguing between balkanites are sensles, becasue all Balkanites are
mixed and many times changed their national identity. Saying one
guys are more Illirian and 2nd more slavic becasue these had I2 but
those J2 is even stupider than regular transcarpathian mortal combat...

[poiuytrewq0987]

I have no idea what you want to say by this troll map, but this
is mostly a fantasy map made up many years ago from clean air.
None relevance to known history neither ethnology - only couple
of points on the map with fictional localizations. BUT even if this
would be true - how it contradicts with corelation with groups of
people? Now you are trolling.

Arguing between balkanites are sensles, becasue all Balkanites are
mixed and many times changed their national identity. Saying one
guys are more Illirian and 2nd more slavic becasue these had I2 but
those J2 is even stupider than regular transcarpathian mortal combat...

The map was made by FTDNA, and it explains the migration history of Y-DNA carriers. The red texts are my notes I added. If you can't get that then you shouldn't be debating the subject in the first place.

[Rethel]

The map was made by FTDNA, and it explains the migration history of Y-DNA carriers. The red texts are my notes I added. If you can't get that then you shouldn't be debating the subject in the first place.

Made, when almost none historical Y DNA was known...
Even today it is impossible to made such map, becasue
there is no enaugh data for such claims.

And even if data would be, there is no certaintity in datation, and
people who are making such diagrams, are not ideologically neutral,
and mostly their ignorance is complemented by fantasy and others
assumptions and theories. This is why during the years all is going to
be not actual - becasue they not only know almost nothing when
they are making a theory, but also are unable to made coherent
conclusion having many certain historical informations - or are
deliberetry ignorant about such.

Until you do not understand how such propaganda is made,
you shouldn't be debating the subject in the first place.


And btw, you still didn;t make a point.
Pictures every idiot can show.
It is not even known what you want to say by that.

[Petalpusher]

The major change since that map was made is R1b found around the Alps in the upper paleolithic, we ll probably find some others as there s little chance it was an isolated event we just happened to stumble upon.