The Truth Behind the Christ Myth: Ancient Origins of the Often Used Legend

[revealman]

We seek eternal love and safety in a world where limitation, mortality and impermanence are the rule.. How naive and foolish!!

Since this world exists within the framework of space and time, duality automatically becomes a part and parcel of this world. To be without duality, the non-dual state, where there is neither good nor bad, neither birth nor death, one has to go beyond time and space, which is not normally possible for us, human beings in this world. And hence, because we are within time and space, the very nature of life remains dual and evil or sin will always be there, along with the good and the virtuous. This is the framwork on which our world is created. We could accurately call the Creator an emotion vampire. That which is eternal and immortal cannot feel the emotions that mortal biological life feels. The Creator cannot fear death or feel the elation of escaping death. The Creator cannot feel the pleasure of intense orgasm with a beautiful woman. So we were created over eons of time, by guided evolution, so the Creator can vicariously experience emotion through us. The Creator is not moral in the sense declared by religions. The Creator made lions to eat lambs, wolves to eat deer, hawks to eat sparrows, and the races of men to battle for women, territory, power and life. The battles are neither good or evil. They are part of natural law put into operation by the Creator. Ascetic people who deny natural laws will perish. In the cycles of soul-incarnations and battles for survival, warriors win and cowards perish, either in this cycle or another. This is the harsh but true natural law which runs this world of time and space. The Absolute set creation in motion with iron hard rules called the Laws of Nature. Within those rules each race, each species and each individual must struggle... There is only natural law which is the highest law. Religions are built on ignorance and superstition. The fictious character Jesus demands that his followers be as little children, who of course "believe" all they are told and have no power of reason. Since creating this fictious entity, the church began to murder every scientist, every philosopher, every custodian of the Mysteries and every Pagan priest, which brought about the Dark Ages of ignorance, superstition, disease and death. It is vital to remember that religious myths are allegory, parable and code for natural laws, and not to be taken literally.
The three most absurd supernatural tales that are presented as factual history, one from each religion, will illustrate the point. Moslems are told that Mohammed rose to heaven while still alive, as he stood on a rock which is now enshrined within a mosque called the Dome of the Rock. The Christians demand literal belief that the motive force of the entire universe turned itself into a mortal man, in order to have itself killed by mortal men, in order to keep itself from killing mortal men in the eternal torment of hell. The Jews are taught that the earth stopped spinning so there would be extra sunlight for their alleged ancestors to slaughter their enemies. Of course, they are not told that if the earth stopped spinning, the oceans would come out of their boundaries in a wall of water miles deep and traveling 1,000 mph, which would obliterate the earth's land masses. If the concept of "God" can be understood within the limitations of human perspective, the most precise grasp would be defined by the eternal Laws of Nature. But Christians and other believers are required to abandon all reason and "believe" in the "immaculate conception." Religions are a perfect tool for dumbing down naive and childish masses and feed their false hopes.. There is only Natural Law which is immutable, everything else is man made false doctrines of anthropomorphism! Mankind wishes the creator to be made in its own image but this is a logical fallacy. The most honest image of God is found in Natures Laws. This also explains why there is death, suffering, struggle and pain! Because they are part of natural law, life is and always has been a struggle for survival. The basis of all religions is Natural Law and Cycles!

[revealman]

The true theism should help with avoiding petty superstition, and uphold ethical secular lifestyle. I do not care about the connection anymore, because I am not a hindi, neither a practitioner of Egyptian cult, cults without universally applicable ethics are all superstition for me. People should be sticking to civil responsibilities first, because the nation itself is the creation of the theism. Petty superstition is an unnecessary distraction from our most vital responsibilities. Plato did not write a book on religion for a good reason, we are not supposed to bother with rituals in the civilized society, what we are really obliged to educate ourself is what he and many of his fellow philosophers wrote down for the posterity, be concerned with the state, peoples well-being, and fostering ourself a sound reasoning mind.

i agree, we should choose rational thinking before superstition, as i said, science is nothing more than copying nature and its laws. religions always were anti-reason and pro superstiion. only paganism was based on natural laws. the pagan secrets of how natural laws operate were kept hidden by the priest class and believers were fed mythological parables so the priest class could control them. this is why vatican libraries were closed and scientists were persecuted. those who had knowledge easily could control the illiterate masses with man made mythology/superstitions..

one thing i do not agree with in your post is the assumption that there is such thing as universal ethics.. all ethics are man made voluntary agreements on how to get along in society and heavily vary across cultures. natural laws are amoral and only care about survival! universalism and humanism is a man made utopia. you have no right to anything, everything you earn you must gain by struggle, such is natures law.. all humans struggle for survival and make wars for resources. there is no romantic all benevolent god who set up some kind of universal ethics and human rights.. natures creator does not care if a child is eaten in africa or somebody dies of hunger.. this also explains the age old question why god allows suffering of innocents, because nature does not care about individuals. nature only cares about continuation of species in a battle for survival. i know it is harsh truth but honest truth. all else is man made wishful thinking and self therapy so he can bear the harsh reality we were born into..

[Hexachordia]

i agree, we should choose rational thinking before superstition, as i said, science is nothing more than copying nature and its laws. religions always were anti-reason and pro superstiion. only paganism was based on natural laws. the pagan secrets of how natural laws operate were kept hidden by the priest class and believers were fed mythological parables so the priest class could control them. this is why vatican libraries were closed and scientists were persecuted. those who had knowledge easily could control the illiterate masses with man made mythology/superstitions..

one thing i do not agree with in your post is the assumption that there is such thing as universal ethics.. all ethics are man made voluntary agreements on how to get along in society and heavily vary across cultures. natural laws are amoral and only care about survival! universalism and humanism is a man made utopia. you have no right to anything, everything you earn you must gain by struggle, such is natures law.. all humans struggle for survival and make wars for resources. there is no romantic all benevolent god who set up some kind of universal ethics and human rights.. natures creator does not care if a child is eaten in africa or somebody dies of hunger.. this also explains the age old question why god allows suffering of innocents, because nature does not care about individuals. nature only cares about continuation of species in a battle for survival. i know it is harsh truth but honest truth. all else is man made wishful thinking and self therapy so he can bear the harsh reality we were born into..

Aristotle and Plato are fathers of modern states, they are theists and also the founders of universal ethics, who opposes them? Nobody. Aristotle is the proponent of geocentrism which was replaced with heliocentrism but his ethics keep holding up the spine of modern philosophy. These two philosophical giants already have shown our path to future, growing out of mysterious cults of human creation that was symbolized by Solon`s narration of Atlantis. Greeks endeavored to contribute to civil matter rather than sticking to cults like hindi and other tribes of Asia. I concede that there does not exist any naturally universal ethical principle, it is a human creation, just like humans creat cities, states, cultures. It is the universal ethics that keep the civilization alive after all as we have come to this modern age after numerous downfalls of empires. We can never give up theism, but it is necessary to move forward on the path started by the greeks to pursue reason and dialectical(not a marxist invention) inquiries.

[Sacrificed Ram]

Thanks this guy now we have chocolate eggs, he changed the humanity with it.

[monfret]

Jesus existed.the shroud of turin is witness to his death and resurrection.we have the apostolic fathers(St.clement,St.ignatius,St.polycarp of smyrna) who knew the 12 apostles personally.Orthodox and catholic churches have apostolic succession,meaning their laying of hands is in a unbroken line back to the 12 apostles(I include paul).there are circa 6000 catholic saints,to be a saint in the catholic church you must have atleast 3 verifiable miracles be done.God still works thru miracles in his church,padre pio of petrelcina is the foremost saint of our times with thousands of miracles(like healing a woman with no pupils who now sees),healings and levitation,bilocation and stigmata,no new age eastern religion demonic influenced gurus can mimic the acts of God.


no scholar not even bart ehrman believes Jesus son of mary is a myth.on the shroud of turin the blood was xx chromosoned,meaning no human father .

revealman you worship demons,eastern religion and new age is nothing but pantheism and glorification of man.the entire hindu cult is satanic to its core.you are following a false path and will pay for it if you do not repent.

[monfret]

If Jesus were a myth why do many people see him who have visited hell in ndes(bweing saved by him)?why do people meet him in apparitions?what about the numerous verified apparitions of mary?our lady of zeytoun was even caught on camera and millions of people witnessed her.with thousands of healings.same in lourdes.God did not stop miracles with jesus they happen quiet often in the church,read upon on them,many people have seen jesus,they are not strange hallucinations but actual apparitions.

https://churchpop.com/2016/03/15/wit...-lady-zeitoun/


the crucifixion and ressurection of jesus was predicted in around 800 BCE by the prophet Yeshayah

Isaiah 53New International Version (NIV)

53 Who has believed our message
and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
2
He grew up before him like a tender shoot,
and like a root out of dry ground.
He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
3
He was despised and rejected by mankind,
a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
Like one from whom people hide their faces
he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.

4
Surely he took up our pain
and bore our suffering,
yet we considered him punished by God,
stricken by him, and afflicted.
5
But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
and by his wounds we are healed.
6
We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
each of us has turned to our own way;
and the Lord has laid on him
the iniquity of us all.

7
He was oppressed and afflicted,
yet he did not open his mouth;
he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
so he did not open his mouth.
8
By oppression[a] and judgment he was taken away.
Yet who of his generation protested?
For he was cut off from the land of the living;
for the transgression of my people he was punished.[b]
9
He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
and with the rich in his death,
though he had done no violence,
nor was any deceit in his mouth.

10
Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
and though the Lord makes[c] his life an offering for sin,
he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand.
11
After he has suffered,
he will see the light of life[d] and be satisfied[e];
by his knowledge[f] my righteous servant will justify many,
and he will bear their iniquities.
12
Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,[g]
and he will divide the spoils with the strong,[h]
because he poured out his life unto death,
and was numbered with the transgressors.
For he bore the sin of many,
and made intercession for the transgressors.

[monfret]

a world of angels demons is real,not the pantheistic garbage walter russell and new age gurus promote.



I'm here merely to warn revealman is a pagan new age deciever,undoubtely having the sympathy of many demon worshippers like hindus.angels exist .demons exist.God exists.Jesus exists.all scholars agree jesus was no myth,apostolic succession prove it.the apostles all were martyred,they wouldnt die for some myth they copied from pagan religions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostolic_Fathers

people who accuse constantine of creating christianity mixing with idolatry have no clue about church history before the 4th century.prayers to saints and angels aswell as icons(see dura europos synagogue)were well established already.as was the apostolic structure of the church.the holy eucharist has always been a part of the church.

[jingorex]

[revealman]

a world of angels demons is real,not the pantheistic garbage walter russell and new age gurus promote.



I'm here merely to warn revealman is a pagan new age deciever,undoubtely having the sympathy of many demon worshippers like hindus.angels exist .demons exist.God exists.Jesus exists.all scholars agree jesus was no myth,apostolic succession prove it.the apostles all were martyred,they wouldnt die for some myth they copied from pagan religions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostolic_Fathers

people who accuse constantine of creating christianity mixing with idolatry have no clue about church history before the 4th century.prayers to saints and angels aswell as icons(see dura europos synagogue)were well established already.as was the apostolic structure of the church.the holy eucharist has always been a part of the church.

[revealman]

If Jesus were a myth why do many people see him who have visited hell in ndes(bweing saved by him)?why do people meet him in apparitions?what about the numerous verified apparitions of mary?our lady of zeytoun was even caught on camera and millions of people witnessed her.with thousands of healings.same in lourdes.God did not stop miracles with jesus they happen quiet often in the church,read upon on them,many people have seen jesus,they are not strange hallucinations but actual apparitions.

https://churchpop.com/2016/03/15/wit...-lady-zeitoun/


the crucifixion and ressurection of jesus was predicted in around 800 BCE by the prophet Yeshayah