Celtic roots of Castilla and Portugal: Asturias

[Venpell]

No, only Cantabrian and Asturians warrior were decimated and only a small part of us, the warriors, most of the population survived, like the 90%.

Again no, Asturian and Cantabrian are equal to the rest of Spain as show all genetic studies and Goths are only a minority of the Spanish Genepool, Wikipedia is pure crap.

I am talking about culture, not genepool. Racially (Genetically) goth influence was very small.

Of course, I'm only trying to explore every possible alternative, mean no offense and nothing else but to have a good discussion that stirs up things a little.

[Damião de Góis]

Culture is largely influenced by language, which is latin. What do you percieve has gothic cultural influences in NW Iberia?

[Lábaru]

I am talking about culture, not genepool. Racially (Genetically) goth influence was very small.

Of course, I'm only trying to explore every possible alternative, mean no offense and nothing else but to have a good discussion that stirs up things a little.

Well, the cultural heritage is mainly Latin-Catholic with strong pagan influences, especially Celtic. The Goths were heavily Romanized as the Celtiberians.

[Giesta]

I think celtic genetics are stronger in northen iberic. My 4 mother's granparents are northen portuguese immigrants for Brazil, and 3 had green eyes (one with blonde hair) and 1 had blue eyes (with brown hair).
My mother has green eyes and very light brown hair. She is very lighter than my father with portuguese + franch + italian ancestors. Because of my father I have light brown eyes and brown hair. :T
Even with a strong Iberian ancestry I have vary pale skin, and can not stand at the sun, cause I get very red.

I do not understand why some think all Iberians are "brown" ¬¬

[SupaThug]

I think celtic genetics are stronger in northen iberic. My 4 mother's granparents are northen portuguese immigrants for Brazil, and 3 had green eyes (one with blonde hair) and 1 had blue eyes (with brown hair).
My mother has green eyes and very light brown hair. She is very lighter than my father with portuguese + franch + italian ancestors. Because of my father I have light brown eyes and brown hair. :T
Even with a strong Iberian ancestry I have vary pale skin, and can not stand at the sun, cause I get very red.

I do not understand why some think all Iberians are "brown" ¬¬

''Celtic'' is a ambigous term when it comes to genetics and the phenotypical differences between northern and southern Iberians is minimal.

[Giesta]

''Celtic'' is a ambigous term when it comes to genetics and the phenotypical differences between northern and southern Iberians is minimal.

Well... I think northen portuguese as more atlanto-mediterranid, and Algarve's portuguese only like mediterranids, without atlanto influences (no blue / green eyes. no blonde hair). But still white...
I always thought this atlanto influences in northen were from Celtic ancestors.

[SupaThug]

Well... I think northen portuguese as more atlanto-mediterranid, and Algarve's portuguese only like mediterranids, without atlanto influences (no blue / green eyes. no blonde hair). But still white...
I always thought this atlanto influences in northen were from Celtic ancestors.

You are having a stereotypical image of Algarvians,they are not different compared to people from Minho or from Trás os Montes,since South Portugal was populated with people from North Portugal after the Reconquista.Spain is a bit more heterogeneous,but not much.

[ÁGUIA]

Well... I think northen portuguese as more atlanto-mediterranid, and Algarve's portuguese only like mediterranids, without atlanto influences (no blue / green eyes. no blonde hair). But still white...
I always thought this atlanto influences in northen were from Celtic ancestors.

Portugal é um país mais ou menos homogéneo, tanto podes encontrar loiros de olhos claros no Algarve, como tipos de cabelo e olhos escuros no norte, ou vice-versa... haverá talvez no Minho e em Trás-os-montes(em especial nos meios rurais) uma maior incidência de pessoas com traços mais claros, mas não é nada de muito significativo.

[SupaThug]

Portugal é um país mais ou menos homogéneo, tanto podes encontrar loiros de olhos claros no Algarve, como tipos de cabelo e olhos escuros no norte, ou vice-versa... haverá talvez no Minho e em Trás-os-montes(em especial nos meios rurais) uma maior incidência de pessoas com traços mais claros, mas não é nada de muito significativo.

Sim,tanto que em mapas genéticos,os portugueses são classificados simplesmente como ''portuguese'' ao invés de serem divididos em ''northern portuguese'',''southern portuguese''...

[Damião de Góis]

Portugal é um país mais ou menos homogéneo, tanto podes encontrar loiros de olhos claros no Algarve, como tipos de cabelo e olhos escuros no norte, ou vice-versa... haverá talvez no Minho e em Trás-os-montes(em especial nos meios rurais) uma maior incidência de pessoas com traços mais claros, mas não é nada de muito significativo.

Exacto. É o sotaque que faz com que as pessoas sejam associadas a uma determinada região e não o seu aspecto, que pode ser qualquer um. Embora concorde contigo quanto à maior incidência no norte.