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    Quote Originally Posted by KrashNick View Post
    The tower that Gjon Kastrioti built in Hilandar, Mt Athos was called "Arbanaški pirg" (Albanian tower) by the Serbians.

    And Reposh Kastrioti is listed as "Dux of Illyria" in Hilandar


    He ruled Albania. It does not speak about his ethnicity.
    Illyrian is not same as Albanian.

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    You can say whatever you want, you are a people who live on false history and you are getting exposed.

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    This is what the sources say about the people who were revolting against the Ottomans in Kosovo in 1689:



    One early account states that in Prishtina 5,000 Arnauts, having thrown off the Turks and many leaders of the surrounding places ... swore fealty to the Emperor.



    Count Veterani, the commander of the Austrian campaign in this part of the Balkans in 1690, wrote in his memoirs of 20,000 Arnauts reduced to loyal obedience to the Emperor Piccolomini



    An anonymous history of the war, written in Italian (and surviving in manuscript in two forms: the full Italian text in the French Foreign Ministry archives, and an extract in German translation, entitled 'Annotationes und Reflexiones, in the Kriegsarchiv in Vienna), refers to more than 20,000 Rascians or Albanians. Some other early texts by writers who apparently had acces to original dispatches and documents specify Albanians: for example Franz Wagner, in his history of the region of Leopold I, used the words 'Arnautae' and 'Epirotae' - the latter being a term normally used to distinguish the Albanian language (and its speakers) from the Slav, ''Illyrian'', one.



    And one of Piccolominis own officers, Colonel von Strasser, reported to Ludwig von Baden that Piccolomini had gone to Prizren in order to treat with 'The Albanians, Arnauts, and others (mit den Albanesernen, Arnauten und anderen')



    Among the papers of Ludwig von Baden in Karlsruhe, there is a copy of an intercepted letter, in French, written by a secretary of the English Embassy in Istanbul on 19 January 1690: it reports that the 'Germans' in Kosovo have made contact with 20,000 Albanians who have turned their weapons against the Turks.



    Most of this evidence points then towards the conclusion that the bulk of the people who rallied to Piccolomini in Prizren - both the 5,000 who came to the town to greet him, and the others who made up the total of 20,000 - were, by our modern criteria, Albanian





    Source: Rebels, Believers, Survivors: Studies in the History of Albanians. , starting from page 128 .




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    There are also registers showing Albanians in other parts of Dardania all the way to Nish so don't worry Chetnik, you lived here first in an alternative universe

    People like to complain about radical Islam. But never talk about radical nationalism . It's obvious you are nation who suffer from radical nationalism.
    Created some kind of 19th century nationalist cult out of a place they never even dominated and even manipulated the historical facts and started ethnic conflict through mass expulsion and genocide in order to fullfil their imperialist dreams. You want to so badly be us because we are the original inhabitants of that place , you're just some guests, but you wish you were us which is why you claim our land and want to take our position.

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    The vast majority of nations in the world (including some nations in Europe such as Spain,) don't recognise Kosovo as a separate nation to Serbia.

    It was illegally annexed by the west with no referendum.

    So if someone asks me what is the capital of Kosovo, I never say Pristina, but Belgrade - because Kosovo belongs to Serbia.
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    No, Skanderbeg was not a Serb but we know Milosh Kopiliq, the guy who killed the sultan in the Battle of Kosova 1389, was an Albanian

    The tale told to us by Berisha corresponds to an Albanian - language Kosovo ballad recorded by the folklorist G. Elezović in the 1920s and later commented upon anew by Lord . Indeed, Lord treats the tale of Murat and Milos Kobilić as a mainly Albanian folk expression, tracing its major elements to Albanian oral traditions and noting their absence from the canon elaborated by the famous Serb linguist Vuk Stefanović Karadžić. Lord argues that two traditions, Slav and Albanian, developed independently but then borrowed from each other, meeting in the Sandžak region. Cultural influences went in both directions with the story of the old woman and her advice to the Turks being considered by Lord as essentially Albanian but appearing as far north as eastern Croatia. Lord argued persuasively that this folk image emerged from ancient Albanian lore associated with the land and the origins of rivers.

    Schwartz, Stefan (2000). Kosovo: Background to a War


    These Serbs are propaganda machines. An imperialist nation, historically backed up by Russia, and that wanted to expand into Albanian territory during the 19th-20th century so they invented all kinds of propaganda that seems to of reached every corner in the world. First step was they depicted themselves as the indigenous people of these territories, second step was to make these conflicts seem ancient and themselves the victims, third step was to make it seem like there were no Albanians here but supposedly people who arrived late and depiction of Albanians as constant collaborators with the enemy. None of it was based on scientific studies, pure garbage invention and certain historical events were manipulated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ♥ Lily ♥ View Post
    The vast majority of nations in the world (including some nations in Europe such as Spain,) don't recognise Kosovo as a separate nation to Serbia.

    It was illegally annexed by the west with no referendum.

    So if someone asks me what is the capital of Kosovo, I never say Pristina, but Belgrade - because Kosovo belongs to Serbia.
    Thank you. Albanians don't have history at all so they are stealing everything from us. Not just us but from Greeks too.
    Coca Cola is older than Albania.

    Skanderbeg was Serb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berga View Post
    but we know Milosh Kopiliq, the guy who killed the sultan in the Battle of Kosova 1389, was an Albanian
    Who "we"? You and your horde of accounts? I mean, Obilic being Albanian is unknown to any other nation's historiography. Which normally reveals it as an Albanian hoax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Who "we"? You and your horde of accounts? I mean, Obilic being Albanian is unknown to any other nation's historiography. Which normally reveals it as an Albanian hoax.
    The guy have 1000 accounts. Must be some poor cripple little guy with no friends at all. Who would have so much free time to troll and post all that garbage?

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    Good chunk of Serbs in Kosovo are Ottoman settlers buddy, some came during 1400's-1500's and others during 18th century, 1930's etc


    expeditions against some of the highland clans; one of these, part of the Orthodox Montenegrin Vasojevic group, was forcibly transplanted into Western Kosovo; and a new Patriarch, of Greek origin, was installed once more in Pec.
    ^ This territory in fact had majority Albanians when Serbs were settled ^

    Thirdly, the idea that a fixed but gradually eroded Serb population was swamped by a tide of Albanian immigration is misleadingly schematic. There was flux and emigration, settlement and resettlement, in all sectors of the population. Waves of Orthodox people also migrated into Kosovo: the forced migration of one body of Vasojevic clansmen has already been mentioned, and a large group of Orthodox Vlachs, most of whom would eventually be assimilated into the Serbian Orthodox population, came in the 1770s. (These will be discussed in Chapter 11.) Just as Catholic Albanian highlanders moved into Kosovo from the Malesi, so Orthodox Slav ones from the mountains of Montenegro moved into the Sandzak of Novi Pazar; from there, many also spread into northern Kosovo. Members of all the Montenegrin clans took part in this population drift, though they tended to be lumped together under the clanname 'Vasojevic'. 68 Their reasons for moving were just the same as those of the Albanians: a search for better land or grazing, and a desire to escape from vendettas. One French traveller in Kosovo noted in 1911 that some parts of northern Kosovo which had lost their Serbs in the eighteenth century had regained a Slav population not long afterwards: villages near Vucitern which had been entirely ‘Albanianized' up to 100 or eighty years ago, he wrote, had then become completely repopulated by Slavs. Part of the explanation for this, he said, was that

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    Albanian villages and presence of Albanians in the area is mentioned since the medieval period of Serb occupation, not exactly the 17th century, my Serbo-Chetnik friend

    In 1330, Serbian king Stefan Dečanski explicitly mentioned the presence of Albanians and the Albanian names of villages in Kosovo, in particular in the districts of Prizren and that of Skopje. A chrisobull of the Serbian Tsar Stefan Dušan that was given to the Monastery of Saint Mihail and Gavril in Prizren between the years of 1348-1353 states the presence of Albanians in the vicinity of Prizren, the Plains of Metohija and in the villages of Drenica. Within this chrisobull, nine Albanian stock-breeding villages within the vicinity of Prizren are mentioned explicitly - these villages are known with the names Gjinovci (Gjinajt), Magjerci, Bjellogllavci (Kryebardhët), Flokovci (Flokajt), Crnça, Caparci (Çaparajt), Gjonovci (Gjonajt), Shpinadinci (Shpinajt) and Novaci. Entire Albanian villages were gifted by Serbian kings, particularly Stefan Dušan, as presents to Serb monasteries within Prizren, Deçan and Tetova.[13] Additionally, people with Albanian anthroponomy are repeatedly mentioned in a 1348 chrysobull of Stefan Dušan that lists those who pray at the monastery of St. Michael and Gabriel in Prizren as well as some of the inhabitants of the city itself and the surrounding villages. In one of Stefan Dušan's documents in 1355, a soldier with Albanian anthroponomy is exclusively mentioned as one of the people who must continuously pay the Monastery of St. Nicholas in the village of Billushë near Prizren.[14]

    16th century:

    Lazaro Soranzo, writing in the 16th century, noted the town was inhabited "more by Albanians then by Serbs".[44] In 1624 Pjeter Mazrreku reported the town was inhabited by a majority Muslims, almost all of them Albanians.[45]



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