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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Abubu View Post
    Harm and mistreatment is a very murky idea. Today, because of our liberal assumptions, we pretend that harm is only when there is violence involved, while exposing children to porn is alright because it's not violent. Exposing children to porn is, however, greatly harmful, in ways that are more subtle, but also far more damaging.

    Cannabis greatly harms a person mentally. Anyone who says otherwise is either too inexperienced with it or too stupid to know either way. A person who intentionally destroys his mental faculties and spiritual self as a recreation relinquishes his responsibility for others since he can't even be trusted to himself.
    I actually agree with all that, but I would not want government (another corrupt, faulty, human institution) stepping in to determine what constitutes harm, unless it's very obvious. Abuse, exposure of the child to smoke: sure, that could warrant intervention. But I don't favor it just because the parents are setting a bad example, for instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    I actually agree with all that, but I would not want government (another corrupt, faulty, human institution) stepping in to determine what constitutes harm, unless it's very obvious. Abuse, exposure of the child to smoke: sure, that could warrant intervention. But I don't favor it just because the parents are setting a bad example, for instance.
    The state (which is essentially a unique, modern, form of government, with government itself not necessarily bad) shouldn't get to say what is right and what is wrong. To set a bad example is to educate wrongly. It is much worse for the child that he be taught to smoke Cannabis, as his parents did, than mere exposure to smoke. Good government with the guidance of the Church should make it unlawful if it is a good government against such parenting. Communities are what should do the policing.

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    Ohh shut up Bari, if anyone should lose children its your parents because of what have u become. I wonder what they used near you lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Abubu View Post
    The state (which is essentially a unique, modern, form of government, with government itself not necessarily bad) shouldn't get to say what is right and what is wrong. To set a bad example is to educate wrongly. It is much worse for the child that he be taught to smoke Cannabis, as his parents did, than mere exposure to smoke. Good government with the guidance of the Church should make it unlawful if it is a good government against such parenting. Communities are what should do the policing.
    I prefer social stigma. Americans have deep distrust for government, and I'm no exception. We can't have government meddling in every little family affair. Else, they'll be arresting one parent for spanking, another for having a beer on his day off, another for feeding his kids macaroni and cheese. I don't want a nanny state. Parents have the responsibility to raise their children right. There will be some bad apples, and the state will take care of those. As for all the minor mistakes that (all) parents make, they can be dealt with by social pressure. And if society is so degenerate that social pressure no longer exists or functions effectively, then there's probably no hope for it anyway.

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    It depends. they key word is : Moderation.
    How often? How much ? What's his/her abilities at parenting?
    There are several things that cloud your judgement, not only pot. Alchohol and pills are , too.
    I wouldn't recomment taking custody over a joint once a week, when kids are sleepy, but I would recomend if he/she is always stoned, smoking several joints per day.
    Same goes for alchohol, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    No. Marijuana should be legal and normalized. Why is it worse than alcohol?
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    Lol at a parent 'losing custody' this is the whitest thread on apricity. No parent should have their child taken away only in extreeemee cases like Mortimer said.

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    I would always give children to stoners that smoke pot then to alcoholics and junkies. People that smoke pot are actually really thoughtful and they care. You will never read case that someone smoked joint and beat off his wife and kids, this just dont happen. While drunk people do it daily.

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    People who abuse their children physically and verbally should lose custody,not someone who smokes pot once in a while.If we go by the pot example,then we shall say that parents who drink alcohol,smoke tobacco should lose custody of their children too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hithaeglir View Post
    People who abuse their children physically and verbally should lose custody,not someone who smokes pot once in a while.If we go by the pot example,then we shall say that parents who drink alcohol,smoke tobacco should lose custody of their children too.
    Are there any valid argument as to why pot, alcohol or tobacco should be legal and encouraged? There are countless studies providing evidence of the harm it causes. Smoking should be banned in all public places, and anyone exposing their child to smoke or anyone else for that matter should be fined heavily.

    These intoxications cause sociey huge expences that are in fact unnecessary. And as for banning junk food I am all in favor of that as well. Society and parents should be encouraged to live healthy. There is no excuse as to why obviously harmful stuff like this should be acceptable by law or the community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bari View Post
    Are there any valid argument as to why pot, alcohol or tobacco should be legal and encouraged? There are countless studies providing evidence of the harm it causes. Smoking should be banned in all public places, and anyone exposing their child to smoke or anyone else for that matter should be fined heavily.

    These intoxications cause sociey huge expences that are in fact unnecessary. And as for banning junk food I am all in favor of that as well. Society and parents should be encouraged to live healthy. There is no excuse as to why obviously harmful stuff like this should be acceptable by law or the community.
    There's the argument of free will,let something exist and just educate people about its dangers.Pot and alcohol don't cause the same harm as smoking if used moderately and passive smoking from a marijuana cigarette isn't that harmful for your lungs.

    I do agree with you though,that smoking indoors should be banned,same for the exposure of children to tobacco.

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