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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ripper View Post
    Yeah, in a world where Estonians and Balts make up a minority of their (former) homeland's population. Why would that be good for them? No matter how perfect Uncle Adolf would've made the world, they wouldn't have benefited.
    Well, if Estonians would think so, then what'd be the point of these memorials? They should just rejoice that the glorious Red Army saved their behinds, because right now, even with a strong Russian minority, natives are certainly in the majority.

    Following your logic, Estonian nationalists would facepalm at the deeds of their SS volunteer forefathers. But they don't.

    Meanwhile, the outcries of Fascistracistnazi will continue as long as the world is round. Whatever you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humanophage View Post
    ... Tatar governors (baskaks) were constantly present in Russian cities, and would summon armies in case of disorder.
    Baskaks = the tax/tribute collector, not the governors! Russia has always had its own princes and laws. You are really russophobic/semitic liar .

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    Quote Originally Posted by beaver View Post
    stupid shit
    Instead of throwing kindergarten-level insults at me, could you try to re-read my post?

    I was just referring to the fact that the Germans valued the Estonians higher than the Russians in their racial hierarchy (though still below Germans), so I just wondered what the fate of Estonians would've been in the NS Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow Cross View Post
    Well, if Estonians would think so, then what'd be the point of these memorials? They should just rejoice that the glorious Red Army saved their behinds, because right now, even with a strong Russian minority, natives are certainly in the majority.

    Following your logic, Estonian nationalists would facepalm at the deeds of their SS volunteer forefathers. But they don't.

    Meanwhile, the outcries of Fascistracistnazi will continue as long as the world is round. Whatever you do.
    Estonians fought against the Soviet Union and held the front still at Narva, when the front was collapsing everywhere else, as they were hoping that Germany and the Allies make peace before the Soviets cross the border to Estonia.

    Estonians had one goal, fight the Red plague with German weapons in German uniforms, until peace is made. The morale of Estonian troops was very high and Estonian troops usually were of higher quality than the German troops, they were valued very highly.

    Even after the 2nd Soviet occupation, tens of thousands of Estonians went into the forests and continued armed resistance until the early 1950's(when most of the freedom fighters were exterminated) hoping for Western intervention.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunor View Post
    Instead of throwing kindergarten-level insults at me, could you try to re-read my post?

    I was just referring to the fact that the Germans valued the Estonians higher than the Russians in their racial hierarchy (though still below Germans), so I just wondered what the fate of Estonians would've been in the NS Europe.
    Estonians were seen as Nordic übermensch and 100% of the Estonian population was planned to be Germanized. At the same time, the Balts (Latvians and Lithuanians) were seen differently and about 50-60% of them were seen worthy enough to be Germanized, the rest would have been gotten rid off, I guess.

    That's what I have read from somewhere a few years ago.

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    I was just referring to the fact that the Germans valued the Estonians higher than the Russians in their racial hierarchy
    Well, well I more or less understand now, I fuck German opinions in any case

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    Quote Originally Posted by beaver View Post
    Well, well I more or less understand now, I fuck German opinions in any case
    I don't doubt you do. I was just wondering why you yelled "stupid shit" at me when I brought up a historical fact (that the Germans saw the Estonians as a higher race than the Russians) in a neutral fashion.

    Interesting, too, that the Latvians and Lithuanians were seen as less valuable than their neighbors to the north. I wonder why that was? Maybe a stronger Russian influence in them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ripper View Post
    Had Germany won the war, their liberation would not have been any better than Soviet liberation. They have no reason to love Hitler.
    They loved the Uniform though lol



    Oh wait... next we're going to hear about how Estonians were victims of NS Germany LOOOOOL!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by beaver View Post
    Well, well I more or less understand now, I fuck German opinions in any case
    I don't believe that some Europeans are better than other Europeans.

    It has more to do with the fact that the 3rd Reich had a fetish for Nordic people. Estonians are one of the most Nordic/Northern-European looking people in Europe, while the Russians are Eastern-Europeans. Don't take Hitler so seriously, lol.

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    Baskaks = the tax/tribute collector, not the governors! Russia has always had its own princes and laws. You are really russophobic/semitic liar .
    Yes, Baskaks were only representatives of the Horda

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    So what are you going to do Humanophage - accept Putin as your president, or rather opt for revolution and creating disharmony and disorder in Russia?
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