Are British and Irish people darker than Central&Eastern europeans ( hair and eye color wise?)

[brennus dux gallorum]

That's why anthropology is a pseudo-science and why scientists only use genetics today. You can see what people are through their genetics. Brothers from the same family can have a different anthropology classification does that make them a different race?

Anthropology is less objective but still not a pseudo-science, and still highly-linked to genetics

[Grace O'Malley]

Anthropology is less objective but still not a pseudo-science, and still highly-linked to genetics

I don't agree for the simple reason that the Irishman I posted John Ryan was classified as Borreby and yet he would cluster with a fellow Irishman classified as Atlantid and not some Borreby from Sweden. He would cluster with Colin Farrell and all the other Irishmen and have the same genetics. So how does Anthropological classifications show any relationship with people? It doesn't and that is why it isn't used anymore. Scientists now study genetics to show relationships between people and also look at ancient genomes to show where populations came from.

Famke Janssen has the same genetics as Doutzen Kroes and I think any person would acknowledge this. If you were to go on Anthropology people would be saying all these people have different origins and connections when we know this isn't the case.

Whether someone is classified as Anglo-Saxon or Atlanto-Med if they have long term ancestry in the same area they will have the same genetics.

[Septentrion]

what bullshit poll results

There is no BS. The only BS is you know who!!

[Septentrion]

in other words not more than cherry picking germanics who do not even represent the majority of germanic people (also, yes they have more med admixture than Germans, and Belgians are not Germanic Get your facts right)

thanks for confirming what i said.

Wrong. Germans have a slightly higher Mediterranean genomical component than British people (UK). This was already well confirmed by the National Geographic Genographic Project! O.K.! By the way, the three principal groups which make up Belgians ( Flemish, Walloons, Germans), Flemish and Germans are Germanics! I am Germanic because I am Flemish. You'd better get your facts straight!

[Septentrion]

Anthropology is less objective but still not a pseudo-science, and still highly-linked to genetics

Genetics go a lot deeper than anthropology. You should know that since you live in the 21 century. Genetics enlightens anthropology!

[brennus dux gallorum]

Genetics go a lot deeper than anthropology. You should know that since you live in the 21 century. Genetics enlightens anthropology!

Did you read anything else in my post?

[Septentrion]

The Mediterranean genomic component is found in all European populations but at different frequencies.
These results are given by studies done on various European populations (excluding those of immigrant non-European descent) by the NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC GENOGRAPHIC PROJECT led by Spencer Wells from 2005-2015:
Mediterranean
% from highest to lowest:
Sardinian (Italy) = 67%
Georgian = 61%
Tuscan (Italy) = 54%
Greek = 54%
Iberian (Spain & Portugal) = 48%
Romanian = 43%
Bulgarian = 47%
German = 36%
British = 33%
Danish = 30%
Russian = 25%
Tatar = 21%
Finnish = 17%
Northeast Asian ("Mongoloid") genomic component in European populations:
Tatar = 16%
Finnish = 7%
Russians = 4%
Romanians = 2%
Bulgarians = 2%
Northern European genomic component
Finnish = 57%
Danish = 53%
Russian = 51%
British = 50%
German = 46%
Tartar = 40%
Iberian = 37%
Romanian = 36%
Bulgarian = 31%
Greek = 28%
Tuscan = 28%
Sardinian = 24%
Georgian = 7%

[Septentrion]

I guess we should thank the steppe peoples for giving us blondism, lactose-persistence and rufosity! (Idk if they are the reason behind the blue eye color mutation that I know was a hunter-gatherer mutation, but not sure about it being found in steppe peoples)

Sure, blue eyes became commonplace in Ireland, 3-4,000 years ago when those people from the Pontic Steppes reached Ireland via North-Central Europe.

[Septentrion]

Dutch are also slightly more north than irish. You should also consider that All celtic speakers have more mediterranean autosomal admixture than ALL germanics, no matters if they have not interacted with Southern Europe for the last 1500 years unlike all germanic countries, or if they are geographically more distant from med sea, and that even the germanics who plot more south than celts, plot more south because of other kinds of admixture (gedrosian, west asian etc.) not mediterranean

Anyway, so, you somehow admit that your #85 post was wrong

Wrong! The Northern Dutch are about the same as the Irish and actually cluster pretty close to them. Plenty of other Germanics , the Southern Dutch, Western Germans, Eastern Germans, Austrians cluster in a clearly more southerly position than the Irish.

[Septentrion]

Half of people posting in these treads, never been to the UK, barely travel or dont know how to tell when someone is naturally blonde or not.

Britain is way less blonde than Netherlands, Scandianvia, Germany, Baltics and even Eastern Europe (Poland, Russia, Belarus, Czech), I am talking about natural blondes not bleached. Most brits dont look very germanic either.

Nonsense! By the way, a 2004 survey on the Dutch population show that at least 50% of women highlight their hair to make it appear blond/blonder. Due to the fact that among Dutch men, the preference for a blonde female is higher than for a brunette one. So are you going to say that blond hair is not common in the Netherlands too? We all know that hair usually darkens from childhood to adulthood. Bleaching of hair doesn't happen only in Britain, all over Europe including Eastern Europe. Britain is similar to countries in Northern and parts of Central and Western Europe.