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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    They make too much fuss about that. Gerry Adams is also descended from Scots for example. Also a lot of Ireland's national heros had various amounts of English/Scots or other blood. The Pearse brothers had an English father but were executed in 1916. They have been on Irish soil now for over 400 years and I'm sure plenty of them have Irish blood also. I don't expect them to join an United Ireland but they need to stop the divisions on something so petty. How many people in the Republic are pure Irish?
    What do you mean? It's not for you to decide. They are proud of their origins, and rightfully so. This doesn't mean they hate the Irish or don't get along with them. There are stark differences between Protestant and Catholic culture. Why force them to integrate? They want to maintain their own culture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki the Great View Post
    What do you mean? It's not for you to decide. They are proud of their origins, and rightfully so. This doesn't mean they hate the Irish or don't get along with them. There are stark differences between Protestant and Catholic culture. Why force them to integrate? They want to maintain their own culture.
    I'm not deciding anything just giving my opinion. You have very strong opinions on the subject for a South African.

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    yeah sometimes in the news I see names of the IRA that aren't irish even like Murray or Campbell. Even an IRA member was arrested a few months back, has the same surname as my mums side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    I'm not deciding anything just giving my opinion. You have very strong opinions on the subject for a South African.
    It's just how I see it, I have strong opinions on many world matters
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    They're from the island of Ireland so they have every right to call themselves Irish. I wouldn't necessarily interpret that as them making making any sort of political statement or identifying with the Republic of Ireland, especially if they're outside of the region. People often ask where you're from when they're trying to make small talk and a lot of times it's easier to simplify instead of going into detail. If someone asks where I'm from in passing, I'll usually just say I'm British or I'm Australian because it's much easier than saying that I'm Bermudian and explaining to someone where that even is and why I'm not black That doesn't mean that I don't think of myself as Bermudian and I think it's much the same for people from Northern Ireland who live abroad.

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    I feel sad and embarrassed about the way Irish people were bullied and treated very badly under the British Empire, and my family like the Irish people and culture a lot and I have relatives and cousins there.

    But I have a friend from County Kerry in the Republic of Ireland who I met in London. He is a Catholic, but he likes both the Protestant and Catholic churches, and he has all these big flags of the Queen and big Union Jack flags across the walls in his home. Something I would never have in my own home. He thinks the Queen is perfect. He keeps sending me collectors coins and pictures of Kate and William in the post, even though I'm not interested in the monarchy, and he tells me off on the telephone and tells me I should respect the Queen more.

    I'm English and I'm not a monarchist and I feel that Ireland should be returned to the Irish and yet my Irish friend from the Republic of Eire thinks the opposite!

    It's kind of humorous and funny, but it goes to show that just because a person is born in a certain piece of land, it doesn't necessarily indicate their political views.

    I have another Irish friend from Drogheda who lives in London who can't stand the British monarchy or the union, but he loves living in England and he said he likes the ordinary English people.
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    English and Irish people get along well in England in general. We're a bit suspicious of the Scots though
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    Are people from Northern Ireland the same population which as there was before it being given to United Kingdom?

    Quote Originally Posted by English Rose View Post
    I feel sad and embarrassed about the way Irish people were bullied and treated very badly under the British Empire, and my family like the Irish people and culture a lot and I have relatives and cousins there.

    But I have a friend from County Kerry in the Republic of Ireland who I met in London. He is a Catholic, but he likes both the Protestant and Catholic churches, and he has all these big flags of the Queen and big Union Jack flags across the walls in his home. Something I would never have in my own home. He thinks the Queen is perfect. He keeps sending me collectors coins and pictures of Kate and William in the post, even though I'm not interested in the monarchy, and he tells me off on the telephone and tells me I should respect the Queen more.

    I'm English and I'm not a monarchist and I feel that Ireland should be returned to the Irish and yet my Irish friend from the Republic of Eire thinks the opposite!

    It's kind of humorous and funny, but it goes to show that just because a person is born in a certain piece of land, it doesn't necessarily indicate their political views.

    I have another Irish friend from Drogheda who lives in London who can't stand the British monarchy or the union, but he loves living in England and he said he likes the ordinary English people.

    Maybe your Irish friend is simply jealous that they don't have own Queen and etc. ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki the Great View Post
    English and Irish people get along well in England in general. We're a bit suspicious of the Scots though
    Just how we like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki the Great View Post
    It's just how I see it, I have strong opinions on many world matters
    Well I myself have a Great Grandmother with a Scots name and where my father was from there are loads of Scots names like McDonald, Campbell etc so you can see what I mean about people's ancestry. On one side of the border it is used to separate people and on the other side people just look on everyone the same.

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