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    Default Would a free Kurdistan not be to the benefit of Turkey?

    I mean, it could be a win-win situation, no?

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    It's very difficult question to answer, since Kurds have been known to alley with any outside power to further their interest, this could threaten Turkish integrity and create a unstable situation. For example Russia or China might use Kurdistan against Turkey, or even the U.S and so on. Many Kurds want to be part of the Turkish republic but keep to their unique cultural and ethnic identity, since they know it's beneficial to be part of Turkey than it's to be independent.
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    The Turks will lose territory and influence. Kurdistan would be a major regional power allied to Israel. The balance of power in the region would shift yet again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    The Turks will lose territory and influence. Kurdistan would be a major regional power allied to Israel. The balance of power in the region would shift yet again.
    Tayyip reached an aggrement with Pkk and Abdullah Ocalan. There were some secret negotiations and it was lasted, 2 days before, at the Nevruz celebrations in Diyarbakir, Abdullah Ocalan declared a peace and ordered Pkk militas to out of border. Eventually Tayyip lost nationalist-conservative voters sympathy. But i don't think he would be affected so much, because even he lost right wing voters, he would gain pkk supporters vote on the west. To re-gain his rating there must be illusions to impress right wing voters and islamists. he made another move, probably Tayyip kissed USA ass and US. pushed israel to apologized him and Turkey because there is no reason to netenyahu's apologize. Why now? how could this happen easily? İ have two estimation. Either israel afraid of new Turkey which shut down all interior problems and after termination of Pkk Turkey would be biggest actor in middle east and north iraq oils or İsrael just questioned themself, they thought "if they can made a negotiation with their most hatred enemy, why shouldn't we?" and so they give up their hostile attitudes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by legolasbozo View Post
    Tayyip reached an aggrement with Pkk and Abdullah Ocalan. There were some secret negotiations and it was lasted, 2 days before, at the Nevruz celebrations in Diyarbakir, Abdullah Ocalan declared a peace and ordered Pkk militas to out of border. Eventually Tayyip lost nationalist-conservative voters sympathy. But i don't think he would be affected so much, because even he lost right wing voters, he would gain pkk supporters vote on the west. To re-gain his rating there must be illusions to impress right wing voters and islamists. he made another move, probably Tayyip kissed USA ass and US. pushed israel to apologized him and Turkey because there is no reason to netenyahu's apologize. Why now? how could this happen easily? İ have two estimation. Either israel afraid of new Turkey which shut down all interior problems and after termination of Pkk Turkey would be biggest actor in middle east and north iraq oils or İsrael just questioned themself, they thought "if they can made a negotiation with their most hatred enemy, why shouldn't we?" and so they give up their hostile attitudes.
    Hard to say. It is strange timing for the apology maybe because or the Obama visit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    Hard to say. It is strange timing for the apology maybe because or the Obama visit?
    Yes but all happened step by step. First negotiations started, after some progress Recep Tayyip went to Holland and Denmark (to send leaders of Pkk to those countries i guess) and suddenly Abdullah Ocalana declarated peace, and then Netenyahu apologized. Maybe there is a bit interference of Obama, but not a whole.

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    Ι don't see how and why Turkey should agree to give land to Kurds. I think no country in the world would want to lose lands.
    What would benefit both sides, and should happen from the start, is to give Kurds the rights they deserve. They are an ethnic minority and they are not recognised.

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    Yes, they deserve a country like other nations do. North Iraq could be a good start.

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    Unless you count a potentially lasting-peace and respect and clout from peaceful nations, then no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    The Turks will lose territory and influence. Kurdistan would be a major regional power allied to Israel. The balance of power in the region would shift yet again.
    No, the talks is about expansion might be a federation including "Misak-i Milli" border ...


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