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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke View Post
    Do you know to have a serious conversation without backing to trolling backed up by nothing more then your own imagination.

    I noticed that trait is common with Šiptars, just as is migrant life.

    If you dont wont to answer me, OK, you just need to say so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alb0zfinest View Post
    hahahahah don't worry im far from that. I don't really find the greek crisis amusing, because i know Albanians in Greece are immensley affected by this and even the Albanians of Albania, with Greece being Albanias main trading partner. I just thanked your post because i understood a point from your comment that if you know you wont be able to pay the loans don't keep on taking loans its just simply ilogical. However i do disagree that its the jews fault, the Greeks are responsible for their own country, so they should take the responsibility
    It's stupid for them to ask for their money back, If that happens the U.S should ask for their money they gave to Greece under the marshal plan
    Then they should do that too. Why is it stupid to ask for the money back they owe them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brunette View Post
    Then they should do that too. Why is it stupid to ask for the money back they owe them?
    They're not even sure the actual amount Germany owes Greece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandelion View Post
    Around 60% of the immigrants in Greece are Albanians.
    You should feel lucky. Albanians share a similar culture with Greeks and are much easier to integrate into Greek society. Good luck dealing with the Middle Easterners and African immigrants…..

    I found this though I'm not sure how accurate it is:

    http://noa.al/en/artikull.php?id=169244

    http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/20741/46/ - I hate using this website lol

    So according to this (and I’m not sure how reliable it is) there are 2,224 Albanians in Greek jails, thus, Albanians make up 18% of the total inmates and 30% of the foreign inmates. If we assume there are 500,000 to 1 million Albanians in Greece (4%-9% of the population) and if Albanian are 60% of the foreign population, then it isn't as high as some Greeks make it out to be. Albanians are incarcerated at a higher rate than Greeks but on a lower rate than immigrants on a whole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nird View Post
    You should feel lucky. Albanians share a similar culture with Greeks and are much easier to integrate into Greek society. Good luck dealing with the Middle Easterners and African immigrants…..
    If Albanians were all as the first ones that came , the ''first wave'', yes, I would feel lucky, because all of these are hardworking, respectable, and easy to integrate people.
    But unfortunately, not all of them are like this.
    My ''favorite'' immigrants are Phillipino.

    I found this though I'm not sure how accurate it is:

    http://noa.al/en/artikull.php?id=169244

    http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/20741/46/ - I hate using this website lol
    I m nost sure about the numbers, but mostly are for stealing,drugs, trafficing and murders, so this part is correct.
    So according to this (and I’m not sure how reliable it is) there are 2,224 Albanians in Greek jails, thus, Albanians make up 18% of the total inmates and 30% of the foreign inmates. If we assume there are 500,000 to 1 million Albanians in Greece (4%-9% of the population) and if Albanian are 60% of the foreign population, then it isn't as high as some Greeks make it out to be.
    From an article I have from Jan 2012, there are 12.703 inmates (record number for Greek jails) 57.4 % are immigrants.
    (while a new statistic of April of 2012 says foreigners are 65%, but I ll take the January's one so far)

    If 57.4 is foreign, then the other 42.6 % of all prisoners are Greeks.
    (so 7291 are immigrants and 5411 are Greeks)

    But Greeks aren't the same number as immigrants. Greeks are 11 millions, and immigrants are (up to 2 millions).

    So, that means that 0.049% of the Greek population is in jail and 0.36% of the immigrant population is in jail, which makes the criminality of immigrants, 7 times more than the local one.

    So, we are on that, that immigrants are incarcerated at a higher rate than Greeks.
    Albanians are incarcerated at a higher rate than Greeks but on a lower rate than immigrants on a whole.
    I dare to say that you can't compare it, but I want your opinion on that as well.
    There is a significant amount of inmates, that are in jail for being illegal, so they are kept there to be deported.
    If this is ''crime'' , then yes, Albanians have a lower rate than the other immigrants, but if its not, then not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandelion View Post
    My ''favorite'' immigrants are Phillipino.
    LOL I've heard that from many other people from different countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Incal View Post
    LOL I've heard that from many other people from different countries.
    -They are hardworking, so much that they prefer to work 2-3 works each and sent their kids to private school, and have a high quality of life.
    -They are ''crime-less''
    -They integrated into Greek society, without losing their culture.

    I have only met good phillipinos.

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    We had some (maybe 7 or 8) Albanian gypsies living below us. A couple of weeks ago they managed to burn down a shed in the common area/yard and almost set our building and the buildings around us on fire. Great people

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerney View Post
    We had some (maybe 7 or 8) Albanian gypsies living below us. A couple of weeks ago they managed to burn down a shed in the common area/yard and almost set our building and the buildings around us on fire. Great people
    You mean gypsies from Albania

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rron View Post
    You mean gypsies from Albania
    Same difference

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