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    AFAIK, Baltic people also lived in modern day Belarus, Western part of Russia, and Northern parts of Poland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    2) All of Lithuanian territory:



    3) The Land of Vilnius:

    And in 1959 (the number of Poles declined due to expulsion, especially urban Polish population was deported - most of rural Poles were allowed to stay and later many migrated back to cities):

    The number of Russians increased from 69 thousand to 231 thousand:



    After WW2 Ukraine also imported many Russians, and now they are getting what they deserved (the Civil War in Eastern Ukraine, as Russians are not loyal to the Ukrainian state):


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dombra View Post
    Soviet aggression did to the Baltic Sea what Islam did to the Mediterranean. It split it up.
    What "Soviet aggression" are you talking about? Germany and the Soviet Union partitioned Poland and the Baltic States in the Secret Protocols to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, in August 1939.

    It was a common German-Soviet aggression, not just Soviet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Silk View Post
    Lithuania is Catholic, while the other two nations historically have been Lutheran
    Southern Latvia (former Polish Livonia) has been predominantly Catholic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin
    After WW2 Ukraine also imported many Russians, and now they are getting what they deserved (the Civil War in Eastern Ukraine, as Russians are not loyal to the Ukrainian state):
    What the fuck are you talking about? You make it sound like it was Ukraine's decision to do this. Plus, it is not a civil war, but a Russian invasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderer View Post
    What the fuck are you talking about? You make it sound like it was Ukraine's decision to do this.
    It was Soviet Ukraine's decision. Soviet Ukraine was ruled by Communist Ukrainians.

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    Plus, it is not a civil war, but a Russian invasion.
    It is mainly a rebellion by ethnically Russian citizens of Ukraine, not foreign Russians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    It was Soviet Ukraine's decision. Soviet Ukraine was ruled by Communist Ukrainians.
    This is nonsense. That part of Ukraine was in the Russian Empire prior to the Soviet era. Russians and Ukrainians both settled certain areas. It was not Ukraine's decision to become "Soviet Ukraine." Circa 1919-20, Ukrainians fought for independence.

    It is mainly a rebellion by ethnically Russian citizens of Ukraine, not foreign Russians.
    There are certainly ethnic Russian citizens of Ukraine who are involved, but none of this would have been possible without the Kremlin's coordination. There are Russian contract soldiers fighting there now.

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    You can thumb down my posts but it is not surprising that ethnic Russians in Ukraine don't want to be part of the Ukrainian state. Ukraine is very poor compared to Russia. It is a failed and artificial state. It would be better off if it was split between Poland (Western Ukraine) and Russia (Eastern Ukraine).

    It will probably happen within years from now. Lwów will be Polish again:

    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...tural-heritage


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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    You can thumb down my posts but it is not surprising that ethnic Russians in Ukraine don't want to be part of the Ukrainian state. .
    I'd offer to help them pack up and move to Russia then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderer View Post
    I'd offer to help them pack up and move to Russia then.
    First you should pack up and go back to Europe. Give their land back to Native Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    First you should pack up and go back to Europe. Give their land back to Native Americans.
    Nah. I love this country.

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