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Shah-Jehan
11-01-2013, 01:28 AM
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"I no longer love blue skies. In fact, I now prefer grey skies. The drones do not fly when the skies are grey," a 13-year-old Pakistani boy named Zubair told Congress on Tuesday. Zubair was 12 when he and his younger sister, Nabeela, were injured in a drone strike near North Waziristan last October. "When sky brightens, drones return and we live in fear," Zubair told Rep. Alan Grayson and others at the congressional briefing.

Think about that for a second — because of drones, a little kid is scared of one of the most harmless things in the world and the universal indicator that the day is going to be a good one. Being afraid of a blue sky is the inevitable trauma that comes with the recovery process Zubair and his sister are going through — the two were injured when a drone attack hit their home, and blew their grandmother to bits while she was working in the garden.

"A piece of shrapnel ripped into the boy's left leg, just above his kneecap. A scar approximately four inches in length remains," The Guardian reports. "I had seen my grandmother right before it had happened but I couldn't see her after. It was just really dark but I could hear [a] scream when it had hit her," Nabeela told The Guardian.
Zubair and his family represent the civilian toll of these drones. In the nine years spanning between 2004 and 2013, drone strikes killed an estimated 2,525 to 3,613 people, the Bureau of Investigative Journalism reported. Between 407 to 926 of those are civilians, the bureau believes, and Zubair's grandmother is one of them. The Obama administration has disputed those numbers.

Zubair and his family spoke at the briefing today that marks the first time members of Congress will hear from victims from drone strikes. The briefing was set up by Grayson, one of the most left-leaning members of Congress. It began at 10 a.m. on Tuesday and is still proceeding.

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Source: http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/10/saddest-words-congresss-briefing-drone-strikes/71048/

Prisoner Of Ice
11-01-2013, 01:35 AM
lol

YeshAtid
11-01-2013, 09:50 PM
lol

A tad harsh. There's a difference between Jihadi ragheads and children. Innocents should be avoided.

YeshAtid
11-01-2013, 09:53 PM
It seems RussiaPrussia likes seeing dead children:picard2:

Prisoner Of Ice
11-01-2013, 09:54 PM
A tad harsh. There's a difference between Jihadi ragheads and children. Innocents should be avoided.

It's all bullshit propaganda, like how they drag around the same half dozen bodies to 20 different places and take pictures of them. TEH CHILDRENS! Think of the childrens. Oh, like muslims do? I have seen what they do with children.

No one has anything to worry about from drones unless their dad is some major terrorist. If so, tough titty, kid.

Proctor
11-01-2013, 09:55 PM
So just because this individual is 13, is supposed to make it more important? Bullcrap emotional propaganda I'd say. Muslims love these types of stories.

YeshAtid
11-01-2013, 09:56 PM
It's all bullshit propaganda, like how they drag around the same half dozen bodies to 20 different places and take pictures of them. TEH CHILDRENS! Think of the childrens. Oh, like muslims do? I have seen what they do with children.

No one has anything to worry about from drones unless their dad is some major terrorist. If so, tough titty, kid.
That's not strictly true, but they cause less damage anyway

Proctor
11-01-2013, 09:58 PM
I got some propaganda too!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDh2fF4ccwI

Shah-Jehan
11-01-2013, 09:59 PM
So just because this individual is 13, is supposed to make it more important? Bullcrap emotional propaganda I'd say. Muslims love these types of stories.

yeah, true it only makes it more justified bombing innocent people regardless their age, because they're poor...

Stefan
11-01-2013, 10:18 PM
They're not my drones. I never asked for the state to steal from me so that it can attack other people. Don't collectivize me with bad people who happen to control an over-sized institutionalized mafia. There's nothing Americans can do about the American governments other than to tell them to fuck off, which doesn't happen because of indoctrination and conditioning under what are called "programs."

Shah-Jehan
11-01-2013, 10:21 PM
They're not my drones. I never asked for the state to steal from me so that it can attack other people. Don't collectivize me with bad people who happen to control an over-sized institutionalized mafia. There's nothing Americans can do about the American governments other than to tell them to fuck off, which doesn't happen because of indoctrination and conditioning under what are called "programs."

Yeah, that's what I meant by "American" indeed though it is from your tax money but, people like Noraxen and Melonhead see this as propaganda when thousands are dying, yet they can't see through their rogue governments, sad...

Proctor
11-01-2013, 10:22 PM
Yeah, that's what I meant by "American" indeed though it is from your tax money but, people like Noraxen and Melonhead see this as propaganda when thousands are dying, yet they can't see through their rogue governments, sad...

You're implying something that isn't so.

Shah-Jehan
11-01-2013, 10:23 PM
You're implying something that isn't so.

People have the indefinite power to change anything...

Proctor
11-01-2013, 10:26 PM
People have the indefinite power to change anything...

Well I know that, but something like this is something "average" Americans have no control over, which is why it vexes me when people think we can just get up one day and replace our corrupt government.

Shah-Jehan
11-01-2013, 10:28 PM
Well I know that, but something like this is something "average" Americans have no control over, which is why it vexes me when people think we can just get up one day and replace our corrupt government.

You have elections to do that but, that is irrelevant , answer me why you see this as propaganda when actual people are dying, have you ever had such an experience?

Stefan
11-01-2013, 10:29 PM
Yeah, that's what I meant by "American" indeed though it is from your tax money but, people like Noraxen and Melonhead see this as propaganda when thousands are dying, yet they can't see through their rogue governments, sad...

Yeah and taxation (at the very least in the form at which the U.S government does it) is theft. If an individual stole from you and used that money to buy a gun and kill people, is that your gun which he killed those people with? Or to make the analogy closer, if a group of people decided that they want to kill someone and they included you, without your consent, to fund such a program, are you at fault for that person's death? The voter has no control over the governments, which is evident by the high opposition to U.S imperialism in polls, yet the continual procedure of imperialism by the government which is suppose to represent such a voter base. So really, these missiles are the property of the mafia which calls itself U.S.Gov, not Americans, or at least not a sizable portion of the total American populous.

Proctor
11-01-2013, 10:31 PM
You have elections to do that but, that is irrelevant , answer me why you see this as propaganda when actual people are dying, have you ever had such an experience?

Elections don't mean anything under democracy, and even if we could technically "vote in" someone who could fix everything, it would still be an extremely complicated issue to deal with, going through every system of government, also, It doesn't matter whether or not I have personally experienced it.

Anglojew
11-01-2013, 11:01 PM
Now you know how the children of Sderot feel.

YeshAtid
11-01-2013, 11:02 PM
Now you know how the children of Sderot feel.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israeli-survey-almost-half-of-sderot-preteens-show-symptoms-of-ptsd.premium-1.479113

Petros Houhoulis
12-29-2014, 04:48 AM
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Source: http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/10/saddest-words-congresss-briefing-drone-strikes/71048/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide


The genocide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide) in Bangladesh began on 26 March 1971 with the launch of Operation Searchlight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Searchlight),[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide#cite_note-FOOTNOTESpencer201263-3) as West Pakistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Pakistan) began a military crackdown on the Eastern wing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Pakistan) of the nation to suppress Bengali (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengali_people) calls for self-determination.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide#cite_note-FOOTNOTEGanguly200260-4) During the nine-month long Bangladesh war for independence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_Liberation_War), members of the Pakistani military (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_Armed_Forces) and supporting militias (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia) killed between 300,000[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide#cite_note-autogenerated1-1)–3,000,000[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide#cite_note-Al_Jazeera-2) people and raped between 200,000–400,000Bangladeshi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladeshis) women in a systematic campaign of genocidal rape (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocidal_rape).[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide#cite_note-FOOTNOTESharlach200092.E2.80.9393-5)[6]
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide#cite_note-FOOTNOTESajjad2012225-6)The war also witnessed sectarian violence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Biharis_in_Bangladesh) between Bengalis and Urdu-speaking Biharis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stranded_Pakistani). There is an academic consensus that the events which took place during the Bangladesh Liberation War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_Liberation_War) were a genocide.[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide#cite_note-FOOTNOTEPayaslian-7)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Peshawar_school_massacre


On 16 December 2014, seven members of the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tehrik-i-Taliban_Pakistan) (TTP) conducted a terrorist attack on the Army Public School (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Public_School_Peshawar) in the Pakistani (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pakistanis) city of Peshawar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peshawar). They entered the school and opened fire on school staff and children,[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Peshawar_school_massacre#cite_note-DNA_India-8)[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Peshawar_school_massacre#cite_note-BBC-9) killing 145 people, including 132 schoolchildren, ranging between eight and eighteen years of age.[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Peshawar_school_massacre#cite_note-edition.cnn.com-10)[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Peshawar_school_massacre#cite_note-The_New_York_Times-11) A rescue operation was launched by the Pakistan Army's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_Army) Special Services Group (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Services_Group) (SSG) special forces, who killed all seven terrorists and rescued 960 people.[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Peshawar_school_massacre#cite_note-BBC-9)[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Peshawar_school_massacre#cite_note-The_Express_Tribune-12)[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Peshawar_school_massacre#cite_note-13) Chief military spokesman Major General Asim Bajwa said in a press conference that at least 130 people had been injured in the attack.[8]
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Peshawar_school_massacre#cite_note-DNA_India-8)This was the deadliest terrorist attack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Pakistan_since_2001 ) ever to occur in Pakistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan), surpassing the 2007 Karachi bombing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Karachi_bombing).[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Peshawar_school_massacre#cite_note-slaughtered-14) According to various news agencies and commentators, the nature and preparation of the attack was very similar to that of the Beslan school hostage crisis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_hostage_crisis) that occurred in the North Ossetia–Alania (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Ossetia%E2%80%93Alania) region of the Russian Federation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Federation) in 2004.[15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Peshawar_school_massacre#cite_note-Pravda.Ru-15)[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Peshawar_school_massacre#cite_note-Pakistan_Today.2C_Editorial-16)[17] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Peshawar_school_massacre#cite_note-Times_of_India-17)[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Peshawar_school_massacre#cite_note-Indian_Express.2C_2014-18)[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Peshawar_school_massacre#cite_note-Telegraph.2C2014-19)

Prisoner Of Ice
12-29-2014, 07:39 AM
Learn to embrace democracies. In heavens.