Who passes better in Ethiopia; Beyonce, or Egyptian singer Ruby?

[Sikeliot]

http://factmag-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Beyonce210513.jpg
http://ebonique.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/beyonce-real-natural-hair-3.jpg
http://dolcejolie.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/beyonce.jpg


or

http://withfriendship.com/images/k/52366/Ruby-(Egyptian-singer)_6.jpg
http://mawtani.al-shorfa.com/shared/images/2009/05/30/actress-650_416.jpg
http://dagnyzenovia.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/333090612.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

Neither would really imo.

[Smeagol]

The Egyptian. Neither of them really can pass in Ethiopia though.

[Sikeliot]

I think Ruby is facially closer, but too light and her hair maybe too straight.

[Methusalem]

Rather Beyonce. The Egyptian girl is a bit too lightskinned.

There is actually an Ethiopian singer who looks like Beyonce and sounds like Beyonce. LOL


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuwUSK6V50s

[NORWORLD]

I'm not sure why you posted these two. Neither look Ethiopian at all. In my opinion they could not even pass as half Ethiopian.

[Sikeliot]

Rather Beyonce. The Egyptian girl is a bit too lightskinned.


Beyonce looks West African and clearly partially Nigerian or something close. I bet you a significant portion of her background is Igbo if you trace it back.

[Stormer99]

Beyoncé. The Egyptians looks more Puerto Rican than anything.

[NORWORLD]

Beyonce looks West African and clearly partially Nigerian or something close. I bet you a significant portion of her background is Igbo if you trace it back.

If I remember correctly, Beyonce said once that her black "ancestors" came from Nigeria. I don't think she specified ethnic group though.

[Sikeliot]

Beyoncé. The Egyptians looks more Puerto Rican than anything.

I think Beyonce looks Dominican rather than typical African American (her mother has a lot of French ancestry, so that's most of her Euro side).

[Dombra]

Neither

[Methusalem]

I'm not sure why you posted these two. Neither look Ethiopian at all. In my opinion they could not even pass as half Ethiopian.

Egyptian girl could pass as Half-Ethiopian/Half-Southern Euro or Half Middle Eastern. And there are plenty Ethiopian girls similar looking to Beyonce. There is a certain amount of pseudo Latino-Mullato/Quadroon looking Horners. However the typical Ethiopian stereotype looks more like this....

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lv8yutXeOd1r0eejmo1_400.jpg
http://gorgeousblackwomen.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/jiitu-abraham11.jpg
http://www.sharpfocusphoto.com/wp-content/uploads//2012/09/ethiopian-editorial-model-229.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RjqXeZF_oI0/Tskg7GJLvxI/AAAAAAAACRk/Qsg7gxv_1Lo/s1600/_blog_Weyni_5568.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5175/5402536097_a4a5845ee9_z.jpg
http://i2.wp.com/www.maledatimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/mahder.jpg?resize=644%2C960

[Stormer99]

I think Beyonce looks Dominican rather than typical African American (her mother has a lot of French ancestry, so that's most of her Euro side).

I would say Beyoncé looks Dominican whereas Ruby looks PR. She has a Berberid look.

[Smeagol]

Egyptian girl could pass as Half-Ethiopian/Half-Southern Euro or Half Middle Eastern. And there are plenty Ethiopian girls similar looking to Beyonce. There is a certain amount of pseudo Latino-Mullato/Quadroon looking Horners. However the typical Ethiopian stereotype looks more like this....

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lv8yutXeOd1r0eejmo1_400.jpg
http://gorgeousblackwomen.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/jiitu-abraham11.jpg
http://www.sharpfocusphoto.com/wp-content/uploads//2012/09/ethiopian-editorial-model-229.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RjqXeZF_oI0/Tskg7GJLvxI/AAAAAAAACRk/Qsg7gxv_1Lo/s1600/_blog_Weyni_5568.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5175/5402536097_a4a5845ee9_z.jpg
http://i2.wp.com/www.maledatimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/mahder.jpg?resize=644%2C960

They kind of look Indian.

[Sikeliot]

^^ Those women look almost Indian or something, although I know they don't have South Asian ancestry.

Do you think Beyonce looks more African American or more like a Dominican "Med mulatto" look as we sometimes say?

[NORWORLD]

I think Beyonce looks Dominican rather than typical African American (her mother has a lot of French ancestry, so that's most of her Euro side).


To me it depends on the picture and what era it is from. She looked more negroid 10 years ago and earlier when she hadn't undergone plastic surgery to make her nose thinner. She also seems to have become slightly lighter...

[YeshAtid]

I would say Beyoncé looks Dominican whereas Ruby looks PR. She has a Berberid look.

What's your fixation with berbers?

[Methusalem]

Beyonce looks West African and clearly partially Nigerian or something close. I bet you a significant portion of her background is Igbo if you trace it back.

I know but she still could pass. Compare her to these pseudo Latino-Mullato/Quadroon Ethiopians.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/523676_220098568099823_1108568678_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/383374_221438761299137_1348830186_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/560485_236678633108483_1531574110_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/580232_402271263215885_1580795591_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/431553_186122591497421_474930141_n.jpg

[NORWORLD]

Egyptian girl could pass as Half-Ethiopian/Half-Southern Euro or Half Middle Eastern. And there are plenty Ethiopian girls similar looking to Beyonce. There is a certain amount of pseudo Latino-Mullato/Quadroon looking Horners. However the typical Ethiopian stereotype looks more like this....

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lv8yutXeOd1r0eejmo1_400.jpg
http://gorgeousblackwomen.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/jiitu-abraham11.jpg
http://www.sharpfocusphoto.com/wp-content/uploads//2012/09/ethiopian-editorial-model-229.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RjqXeZF_oI0/Tskg7GJLvxI/AAAAAAAACRk/Qsg7gxv_1Lo/s1600/_blog_Weyni_5568.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5175/5402536097_a4a5845ee9_z.jpg
http://i2.wp.com/www.maledatimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/mahder.jpg?resize=644%2C960




Yes, those girls look like most of the Ethiopian girls I've seen. But plenty Ethiopian girls look similar to Beyonce you say? I've never seen it. Can you post some examples?

[Sikeliot]

^ They look Dominican, rather than like pigmented Arabs.

[Methusalem]

^^ Those women look almost Indian or something, although I know they don't have South Asian ancestry.

Do you think Beyonce looks more African American or more like a Dominican "Med mulatto" look as we sometimes say?

Beyonce looks more like a Dominican "Med mulatto/quadroon" and such types do exist among Horners. Not numerous but they exist. Maybe up to 20 %. I am just guessing.

[Stormer99]

What's your fixation with berbers?

Well a lot of the people posted can pass as Berbers or part Berbers.

[Methusalem]

Yes, those girls look like most of the Ethiopian girls I've seen. But plenty Ethiopian girls look similar to Beyonce you say? I've never seen it. Can you post some examples?

See my previous post. I meant with plenty in the 20 % range. It is true that the majority of Horners don't look remotely like Mullatos but some do.

[YeshAtid]

Well a lot of the people posted can pass as Berbers or part Berbers.

Everybody's a berber according to you

[Methusalem]

^ They look Dominican, rather than like pigmented Arabs.

Yeah. True.

[Methusalem]

They kind of look Indian.

Only superficially, if you aren't aware of it.

[Sikeliot]

Can this Dominican pass? Or no?

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Julissa+Bermudez+NBCUniversal+Summer+Press+ddR96Ga 7CaEl.jpg

[Stormer99]

Everybody's a berber according to you

Not true.

[Methusalem]

Can this Dominican pass? Or no?

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Julissa+Bermudez+NBCUniversal+Summer+Press+ddR96Ga 7CaEl.jpg

No she can't. :p

[Smeagol]

Only superficially, if you aren't aware of it.

True, but I mean many would be initially guessed as Indian in America.

[YeshAtid]

Not true.

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Jon-Hamm-Sure-Thing.gif

[NORWORLD]

Beyonce before and after surgery. She clearly looked more SSA before.

http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/zz84/Narniaworld/Various/beyonce_zps5f2f3015.jpg (http://s816.photobucket.com/user/Narniaworld/media/Various/beyonce_zps5f2f3015.jpg.html)

[Tooting Carmen]

Beyonce before and after surgery. She clearly looked more SSA before.

http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/zz84/Narniaworld/Various/beyonce_zps5f2f3015.jpg (http://s816.photobucket.com/user/Narniaworld/media/Various/beyonce_zps5f2f3015.jpg.html)

Still, even in the first photo she doesn't look particularly Ethiopian.

[Sikeliot]

Still, even in the first photo she doesn't look particularly Ethiopian.

She'd look less Ethiopian before not more.

[NORWORLD]

She'd look less Ethiopian before not more.


I was replying to the post where you stated that you think she looks more Dominican than African American.

[NORWORLD]

Still, even in the first photo she doesn't look particularly Ethiopian.

Yes I know. I was replying to the post where Sikeliot said he thought she looked more Dominican than African American.

[Anthropologique]

Beyonce looks West African and clearly partially Nigerian or something close. I bet you a significant portion of her background is Igbo if you trace it back.

Well, I just discovered that Beyonce actually has a small percentage of Breton blood. Wait till my dad finds out. LOL!

[Sikeliot]

Well, I just discovered that Beyonce actually has a small percentage of Breton blood. Wait till my dad finds out. LOL!

I know a guy who is Louisiana Creole who is distantly related to her. I will post him.

[Anthropologique]

Beyonce before and after surgery. She clearly looked more SSA before.

http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/zz84/Narniaworld/Various/beyonce_zps5f2f3015.jpg (http://s816.photobucket.com/user/Narniaworld/media/Various/beyonce_zps5f2f3015.jpg.html)

Still has major negroid features.

[Eurokat]

To say Beyoncé look less SSA now than before is a load of crap.

http://ioneglobalgrind.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/beyonce_3.jpg

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1270068/thumbs/o-BEYONCE-900.jpg

http://freddyo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/beyonce.jpg

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1042447/thumbs/m-BEYONCE-AS-A-CHILD-620x930c.jpg

http://cdn.necolebitchie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/beyonce-lyndell-1.jpg

http://cdn.necolebitchie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/pregbey.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0pe77PjeXRA/UHg7Vkoo4oI/AAAAAAAAF5Y/fIekbY0_pbw/s1600/beyonce_Young_pictures-%7B1%7D.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-02Zkfveo0Ec/UHg7ZkOgHII/AAAAAAAAF5o/iFrM-xF-v54/s1600/beyonce_Young_pictures-%7B3%7D.jpg

[NORWORLD]

To say Beyoncé look less SSA now than before is a load of crap.

http://ioneglobalgrind.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/beyonce_3.jpg

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1270068/thumbs/o-BEYONCE-900.jpg

http://freddyo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/beyonce.jpg

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1042447/thumbs/m-BEYONCE-AS-A-CHILD-620x930c.jpg

http://cdn.necolebitchie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/beyonce-lyndell-1.jpg

http://cdn.necolebitchie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/pregbey.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0pe77PjeXRA/UHg7Vkoo4oI/AAAAAAAAF5Y/fIekbY0_pbw/s1600/beyonce_Young_pictures-%7B1%7D.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-02Zkfveo0Ec/UHg7ZkOgHII/AAAAAAAAF5o/iFrM-xF-v54/s1600/beyonce_Young_pictures-%7B3%7D.jpg



Did you not look at the before and after pictures I posted? It's evident that she's had a nosejob.

[NORWORLD]

Still has major negroid features.


Yes of course.

[Eurokat]

I think Ruby is facially closer, but too light and her hair maybe too straight.

You have absolutely no eye for Africans. For one to look Ethiopian they need to have stereotypical Ethiopian features, none of the two do. The only advantage Beyoncé has is she closer in skin tone and hair type. If you throw her in a crowd of Ethiopians she is less likely to stand out.

Look at this video very carefully, yes they are very ethnic looking and you can tell they are the same people. But many of there features are intermediate they do not look just like Arabs dipped in chocolate.


http://youtu.be/hf365C7Fiq4

Instead of just cherry picking certain types.

[Anthropologique]

I find this whole black trying to look closer to white thing quite amusing. I mean, the blond hair, the nose jobs, skin lightning. Pathetic.

[Tooting Carmen]

I find this whole black trying to look closer to white thing quite amusing. I mean, the blond hair, the nose jobs, skin lightning. Pathetic.

Only a minority indulge in it though. Most are a lot more proud than that. Black people's complexes are not a patch on those of e.g. South Asians.

[NORWORLD]

Only a minority indulge in it though. Most are a lot more proud than that. Black people's complexes are not a patch on those of e.g. South Asians.


Not sure I agree. In the African American communities at least there is an extreme focus on light skin vs. dark skin and how it is more desirable to have light brown skin and "good hair" as they say.

[Tooting Carmen]

Not sure I agree. In the African American communities at least there is an extreme focus on light skin vs. dark skin and how it is more desirable to have light brown skin and "good hair" as they say.

Yes, but compared to India... I mean, have you seen the Bollywood actors? The average Indian actor looks like John Abraham, whereas the majority of the countless ones I've met or seen in real life look like Monty Panesar (if not darker).

Anyway, let's return to topic.

[NORWORLD]

Yes, but compared to India... I mean, have you seen the Bollywood actors? The average Indian actor looks like John Abraham, whereas the majority of the countless ones I've met or seen in real life look like Monty Panesar (if not darker).

Anyway, let's return to topic.


Yes I know. I just thought it was wrong to say that only a minority of black people indulge in the same behaviour.

[Eurokat]

I find this whole black trying to look closer to white thing quite amusing. I mean, the blond hair, the nose jobs, skin lightning. Pathetic.

Now compare to the number of whites who cut half there noses off plump their lips and artificially darken themselves there is an epidemic. Now white Hollywood actress are getting butt shots.

White Hollywood is way more into altering there looks.

[Eurokat]

It's not as bad as the obsession among white Americans to be darker. African Americans rarely bleach there skin.

[Roy]

Neither; Ruby a bit closer.