Classify Norwegian Andreas Torbgersen [Archive] - The Apricity Forum: A European Cultural Community

Cristiano viejo

11-03-2013, 01:28 AM

http://www.miwebpoker.com/wp-content/uploads/Andreas-Torbergsen2.jpg
http://www.pokerportal.sc/data/image/Apr11/Andreas_34_7917833x4.jpg
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Andreas "Skjervøy" Torbergsen is one of the best PLO players in the world, with winnings in the seven figures on both PokerStars and Full Tilt Poker. He's the newest Red Pro on Full Tilt Poker, and is now a member of Team CardRunners. His first CardRunners video will debut Friday.

He is currently balancing poker with University in Norway, where he is finishing up a degree in marketing. In anticipation of his first video, a high-stakes PLO offering, Andreas answered some questions for CR members. He will also be participating in a "well" Q&A in the CardRunners Forums. Ask him your own questions here.

Where are you from?

I'm from Skjervøy, a small town in Norway with 2500 people, 70 degrees north. I moved out from home at 17 to go to high school in Tromsø. A lot of poker players with success are from there, especially the old Prima crew (riise, terken, ulle etc.).

http://www.cardrunners.com/article/71/andreas-skjervy-torbergsen-joins-cardrunners/

NORWORLD

11-03-2013, 01:47 AM

edit* After googling him and seeing more pictures with different lightings/angles I guess he can pass as a very atypical Norwegian.

NORWORLD

11-03-2013, 02:05 AM

I think you should delete photo number 1. The darkness of the photo makes him look like a different person than he does in any other photo here or on google.

Cristiano viejo

11-03-2013, 02:06 AM

Do you think that although atypical he can pass in your country then?
Me not btw

1st pic deleted.

NORWORLD

11-03-2013, 02:07 AM

In some of the photos he looks like some Western Norwegians I've seen.

Tooting Carmen

11-03-2013, 02:09 AM

He looks almost quadroon in some photos.

Cristiano viejo

11-03-2013, 02:14 AM

Yes, he resembles a bit to Ronaldo Nazario

http://fotos.starmedia.com/imagenes/2012/12/Ronaldo-Nazario-2.jpg

WOOHP

11-03-2013, 02:15 AM

Another Spaniard in denial. He would fit much better among your Gitano family.

Also

11-03-2013, 02:34 AM

The difference is subtle at first sight, but you can tell the difference between very curly caucasoid hair and negroid-like hair, which is the case of Ronaldo.

http://pnimg.net/w/articles/1/4e2/962016ac14.jpghttp://fotos.starmedia.com/imagenes/2012/12/Ronaldo-Nazario-2.jpg

He looks like this Norwegian Alpine from Roland Dixon, with different hair texture.

http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu253/Tyranos/NorwegAlpineDixon.jpg

NORWORLD

11-03-2013, 02:36 AM

This is an example of how different people can look in photos due to different lighting/angles.
In these pictures he doesn't look foreign. Far from a quadroon at least!

http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/zz84/Narniaworld/Various/torbergsen4_zps953d0ce3.jpg (http://s816.photobucket.com/user/Narniaworld/media/Various/torbergsen4_zps953d0ce3.jpg.html)

http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/zz84/Narniaworld/Various/torbergsen_zps8e9bdfde.jpg (http://s816.photobucket.com/user/Narniaworld/media/Various/torbergsen_zps8e9bdfde.jpg.html)

http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/zz84/Narniaworld/Various/torbergsen2_zps8590871c.jpg (http://s816.photobucket.com/user/Narniaworld/media/Various/torbergsen2_zps8590871c.jpg.html)

http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/zz84/Narniaworld/Various/torbergsen3_zps43a2ecf9.jpg (http://s816.photobucket.com/user/Narniaworld/media/Various/torbergsen3_zps43a2ecf9.jpg.html)

Smeagol

11-03-2013, 02:38 AM

Very atypical...

NORWORLD

11-03-2013, 02:41 AM

Here's another Norwegian with same pigmentation and the curly hair. Still different but not
extremely far away from Torbergsen:

http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/zz84/Narniaworld/Various/forren3_zpse5f6ce3d.jpg (http://s816.photobucket.com/user/Narniaworld/media/Various/forren3_zpse5f6ce3d.jpg.html)

Cristiano viejo

11-03-2013, 02:44 AM

The difference is subtle at first sight, but you can tell the difference between very curly caucasoid hair and negroid-like hair, which is the case of Ronaldo.

http://pnimg.net/w/articles/1/4e2/962016ac14.jpghttp://fotos.starmedia.com/imagenes/2012/12/Ronaldo-Nazario-2.jpg

Very curly caucasoid hair... LOL
The similarities do not end in hair, both have similar nose and rounded face.

Lemon Kush

11-03-2013, 02:47 AM

part black?

NORWORLD

11-03-2013, 02:50 AM

Very curly caucasoid hair... LOL
The similarities do not end in hair, both have similar nose and rounded face.

Then why doesn't he look like Ronaldo in these more appropriately lighted/different angle photos?
Please don't ignore them this time:

http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/zz84/Narniaworld/Various/torbergsen4_zps953d0ce3.jpg (http://s816.photobucket.com/user/Narniaworld/media/Various/torbergsen4_zps953d0ce3.jpg.html)

http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/zz84/Narniaworld/Various/torbergsen_zps8e9bdfde.jpg (http://s816.photobucket.com/user/Narniaworld/media/Various/torbergsen_zps8e9bdfde.jpg.html)

http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/zz84/Narniaworld/Various/torbergsen2_zps8590871c.jpg (http://s816.photobucket.com/user/Narniaworld/media/Various/torbergsen2_zps8590871c.jpg.html)

http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/zz84/Narniaworld/Various/torbergsen3_zps43a2ecf9.jpg (http://s816.photobucket.com/user/Narniaworld/media/Various/torbergsen3_zps43a2ecf9.jpg.html)

Also

11-03-2013, 02:51 AM

The similarities do not end in hair, both have similar nose and rounded face.

Yes, Alpine traits. Ronaldo has partially caucasoid ancestry.

I don't understand your sarcasm regarding my hair comment, are you saying Torbgersen has negroid traits?

Cristiano viejo

11-03-2013, 03:00 AM

Then why doesn't he look like Ronaldo in these more appropriately lighted/different angle photos?
Please don't ignore them this time:
I just said they look each other "a bit", do you think that I am wrong? nor even a bit?

Yes, Alpine traits. Ronaldo has partially caucasoid ancestry.

I don't understand your sarcasm regarding my hair comment, are you saying Torbgersen has negroid traits?
Well, I don´t know and I want know the opinion of people. Some users are saying exactly so...

Also

11-03-2013, 03:04 AM

There was an american guy who had hair just like Torbergsen* (I think you wrote his name wrongly on the topic title, I googled it) and I asked him if he was mixed, he told me he was 100% white, and I've seen other examples of people with hair like that even from Ireland.

Smeagol

11-03-2013, 03:05 AM

There is no way this guy is native Norwegian. He doesn't even look European.

NORWORLD

11-03-2013, 03:17 AM

There is no way this guy is native Norwegian. He doesn't even look European.

In some pictures( the pictures I posted) he looks European in my opinion. In the pictures Cristiano Viejo posted however he looks
a bit foreign.

NORWORLD

11-03-2013, 03:25 AM

There is no way this guy is native Norwegian. He doesn't even look European.

His headshape is what could indicate some possible foreign ancestry. Other than that he could pass in my opinion.

LP0956

09-12-2016, 05:00 AM

Whiter than the average Spaniard.

Cristiano viejo

09-12-2016, 11:31 PM

Whiter than the average Spaniard.

Hombre Bobby, tú de nuevo por Apricity xD

Cristiano viejo

10-15-2017, 07:40 PM

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http://www.poker.no/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/andreas_torbergsen.jpg
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Odin

10-15-2017, 08:03 PM

Alpine.

Cristiano viejo

10-15-2017, 08:15 PM

Alpine.

:lol:

Ancap

12-28-2017, 02:22 PM

Does anyone here know if he is 100% etnic Norwegian?

Here it is his facebook should someone want to ask it to him lol https://www.facebook.com/skjervoy

Cristiano viejo

12-29-2017, 09:40 PM

Does anyone here know if he is 100% etnic Norwegian?

Here it is his facebook should someone want to ask it to him lol https://www.facebook.com/skjervoy

Yes, he is.

Artaxerxes

12-29-2017, 10:05 PM

Alpine + Archaic Negroid.

King Claus

12-29-2017, 10:11 PM

Awesome! You found your self a half-breed. Congratulations. still looks more nordid than spaniards :)

Cristiano viejo

12-30-2017, 11:26 AM

Awesome! You found your self a half-breed. Congratulations. still looks more nordid than spaniards :)

Fortunately for Spaniards we are not Nordid/Nordic/Nordick then :lol:

FilhoV

12-30-2017, 12:38 PM

Alpine.

If you look up what an Alpine actually it’s it’s a short round headed and swarthy type. Most people that get classified as an Alpine on Apricity are actually Sub-Nordid types

MethCat

12-30-2017, 01:57 PM

Grace O'Malley

12-30-2017, 02:10 PM

He looks almost quadroon in some photos.

Is that just because he has curly hair? :)

Artaxerxes

12-30-2017, 02:13 PM

Odd looking guy for sure. Atypical by Norwegian standards. But you do occasionally see someone like that, mostly in the North thanks to years of mixing with the local Saami. I'm thinking of the darker hair and more compact skull. He isn't of a specific Saami type either, quite unusual in Norway I'd say.

They say a darker phenotype is more common on the Western coast but who knows, I've never been there so I can't add my anecdotes.

Alpine type I guess?

How did he got his negro hair from Saami people? They are supposed to be very straight haired.

This guy is an example that Archaic Negroid features can ocasionally pop up in Europeans and other Caucasoids.

Grace O'Malley

12-30-2017, 02:16 PM

How did he got his negro hair from Saami people? They are supposed to be very straight haired.

This guy is an example that Archaic Negroid features can ocasionally pop up in Europeans and other Caucasoids.

Complete BS. If he had a dna test he would be mostly Scandinavian.

Artaxerxes

12-30-2017, 02:21 PM

Complete BS. If he had a dna test he would be mostly Scandinavian.

What means nothing since the ''Scandinavian'' component already includes genes that would create ''Archaic Negroid'' features that could ocasionally pop up in individuals due to very ancient admixture. If people were more knowledgeable about anthropology and DNA they would know tests only talk about averages collected from samples in some thousands of years. It doesn't determine exactly your look.

This individual looks similar to Ronaldo, part Alpine-Med and part Negroid:

http://www.osul.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/ronaldo.jpg

Grace O'Malley

12-30-2017, 02:27 PM

What means nothing since the ''Scandinavian'' component already includes genes that would create ''Archaic Negroid'' features that could ocasionally pop up in individuals due to very ancient admixture. If people were more knowledgeable about anthropology and DNA they would know tests only talk about averages collected from samples in some thousands of years. It doesn't determine exactly your look.

This individual looks similar to Ronaldo, part Alpine-Med and part Negroid:

http://www.osul.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/ronaldo.jpg

No it doesn't. If you have a dna test any African is fairly distinctive. It is why many southern Americans e.g. from southern US states come up with trace African. This doesn't happen in people like Scandinavians. Curly hair doesn't mean you have recent African descent.

I have had every dna test. I know all the permutations.

Artaxerxes

12-30-2017, 02:32 PM

No it doesn't. It you have a dna test any African is fairly distinctive. It is why many southern Americans e.g. from southern US states come up with trace African. This doesn't happen in people like Scandinavians. Curly hair doesn't mean you have recent African descent.

I have had every dna test. I know all the permutations.

You missed my point completely. The Archaic Negroid elements will be included in the ''Scandinavian'' sample because they are very ancient. It's not hard to understand.
At the time human populations weren't even stabilized in regular types like ''Caucasoid'', ''Negroid'', ''Mongoloid'' etc.

Grace O'Malley

12-30-2017, 02:41 PM

You missed my point completely. The Archaic Negroid elements will be included in the ''Scandinavian'' sample because they are very ancient. It's not hard to understand.
At the time human populations weren't even stabilized in regular types like ''Caucasoid'', ''Negroid'', ''Mongoloid'' etc.

No I didn't miss your point. It would still be included in DNA tests and especially in Gedmatch which looks for much older components. Do you think someone like Colm Meaney has recent African because of his curly hair?

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/stargate/images/b/bb/Colm-meaney.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150528135116

I know my way around all the dna tests. Someone sees curly hair and thinks African. This gentleman looks obviously European to me and his curly hair doesn't look African.

MethCat

12-30-2017, 02:48 PM

Haha. Negro hair? Its curly, hardly afro-textured. Sort of like a Jewfro. You see it every now and then in Southern Europe but its never proper Afro hair, just curly Caucasian hair.

I didn't say his curly hair came from the Saami but rather that the darker phenotype and compact skull does lean slightly towards the Sami phenotype. Yes the Saami are rather straight haired.

Get it?

LieDetector

01-02-2018, 08:53 PM

Alpine

LieDetector

01-02-2018, 09:43 PM

It is an honor to receive a thumb down from you Gitano Pendejo. Let the butthurt flow.

Cristiano viejo

01-02-2018, 10:03 PM

It is an honor to receive a thumb down from you Gitano Pendejo. Let the butthurt flow.
butthurt is you looking gitano compared with me, Italien Detected.

Dont talk about butthurt when you even have had to make a post complaining about the deserved thumb down... Alpine, the spaguetto says... :rolleyes:

Cristiano viejo

03-09-2020, 02:20 AM

ffgg

Cristiano viejo

03-16-2020, 03:59 AM

opinions?

Charlemagne7

05-22-2021, 05:04 PM

Bump

https://pokerati.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/andreas_400.jpg

Lannister

05-22-2021, 05:06 PM

Not fully Norwegian. No way.

decordoba

05-22-2021, 05:52 PM

Triracial - European - SSA - Asian

Ward

05-22-2021, 07:02 PM

A quite unusual look for a Norwegian for sure. In some photos he looks mixed, but in the ones user Norworld posted he looks a bit more normal but still very atypical. His eye area is very common over here and in Scandinavia though.

I'm not very good at taxonomy but I guess he's Alpine or maybe Strandid?