European nationalist parties form alliance

[The Lawspeaker]

European nationalist parties form alliance (http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/2009/10/27/european-nationalist-parties-form-alliance/)

Representatives from the five parties signed an agreement detailing their common goals, such as advocating for a confederation of sovereign states to replace the EU, increasing support for families to reverse Europe's population loss and opposing "religious, political, economic or financial imperialism."


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Five European nationalist parties are forming an alliance in opposition to the European Union and globalization, officials said Saturday.

Hungary’s Jobbik, France’s National Front, Italy’s Three-Color Flame, Sweden’s National Democrats and Belgium’s National Front formed the Alliance of European National Movements, saying the British National Party, Austria’s Freedom Party as well as groups from Spain and Portugal would join them soon.
Far-right parties won a surprisingly large number of seats in June’s European parliamentary elections. Jobbik got three seats and nearly 15 percent of the vote in Hungary, while the British National Party won two seats and 6 percent of the vote.

Nationalist parties are usually opposed to immigration and increased rights for homosexuals, say globalization will homogenize independent cultures and don’t want supranational bodies like the European Union to limit the rights of individual countries.
“This is an important step … for the renaissance of sovereign nations,” Marc Abramsson, president of Sweden’s National Democrats, said about the alliance. “It is a struggle for our own culture and heritage.”

“Globalists would like to have one world, with one language and one culture. Their interest is to get money from selling the same products all over the world,” Abramsson said.

[Mesrine]

Skinheads and all the other kinds of racialists are not nationalists, they are internationalists in essence.

Front National is a true nationalist party, but Lega Nord clearly isn't one, since it advocates the destruction of the Italian nation-state.

[Brännvin]

FrP from Norway is not at all a nationalistic party, they have members who go to bed with asian women, not to mention some of them are married to Filipino women.. :eek: What a bunch of douches!

[Mesrine]

FrP from Norway is not at all a nationalistic party, they have members who go to bed with asian women, not to mention some of them are married to Filipino women.. :eek: What a bunch of douches!

Well, this isn't necessarily anti-nationalist. For example, Front National's n°2 Bruno Gollnisch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruno_Gollnisch) is married to Setsuko Takeuchi, a Japanese woman (they have three children).

http://i38.tinypic.com/161zzwm.jpg

[Motörhead Remember Me]

LOL...What do all apricity anti-federalists think of this over the state borders co-operaton?

[Motörhead Remember Me]

FrP from Norway is not at all a nationalistic party, they have members who go to bed with asian women, not to mention some of them are married to Filipino women.. :eek: What a bunch of douches!

It's my humble opinion that it is not wrong to sleep with Asian women .:p

[SwordoftheVistula]

LOL...What do all apricity anti-federalists think of this over the state borders co-operaton?

Necessary, given the current state of affairs. Dunno where that map comes from anyways, as it doesn't really match the article.

[Freomæg]

Dunno where that map comes from anyways, as it doesn't really match the article.
Yeah, I'd like to know what all this 'Pagan Racialist' and 'Christian Racialist' etc business is. As far as I know there are no political 'Pagan Racialist' groups in the UK and the BNP could only very loosely be described as 'Christian Racialist'.

[Comte Arnau]

Front National is a true nationalist party, but Lega Nord clearly isn't one, since it advocates the destruction of the Italian nation-state.

Yet, from an ethnolinguistic POV, advocation for a different nation in the North of Italy could make some sense. Do you know of any (left wing) party claiming for it, using reasons different to those of the Lega Nord?

[Lahtari]

Dunno where that map comes from anyways, as it doesn't really match the article.

I'd like to know that as well. It just lists a bunch of first names as a source.

According to it there's supposed to be three pagan racialist groups in Finland, but I can't think of any. :confused:
Did the count all the "groups" comprising of two teenage blackmetallers and a website? :p

[Svarog]

As for Serbia, cross of SRS - they are not nationalists but mentally retarded pussies.

[Arrow Cross]

As for the JMM in Hungary, that 2% might quite easily be 20% at the elections next year, because they achieved 15% in the summer EP vote, and are rising in popularity. I have no idea where they got their data from.

http://www.politics.hu/20090607/ep-results-in-fidesz-dominates-as-jobbik-nears-15-of-popular-vote

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-hungary-right11-2009oct11,0,1698369.story?track=rss

[The Lawspeaker]

Necessary, given the current state of affairs. Dunno where that map comes from anyways, as it doesn't really match the article.
I noticed that too. That's also why I posted the article.

[Inese]

Yes the graphic is right for Latvia!! :icon_yes: The party is very nationalist and Anti Russian and dignifies our Latvian soldiers and the alliance with Germany in second world war

Here a link ---- yes the logo has similiarity with the Hakenkreuz and it is no accident!! :icon_ask: Last summer they got seats in European parliament

http://www.tb.lv/

[Tabiti]

ATAKA nationalist? Yes, according their promises before 5 years...before getting into the parliament. Now they are only a bunch of extremist christians, ex commies and various idiots without place in the other groups.

[Mesrine]

Yet, from an ethnolinguistic POV, advocation for a different nation in the North of Italy could make some sense.

Leghisti include Tuscany and Umbria in their dreamed Padania (see map below), so the ethno-linguistic argument doesn't stand. Anyway their pseudo-folkism is an excuse to justify the primary cause of Lega Nord's existence: fiscal egoism.

http://i33.tinypic.com/2dgnf4n.jpg



Do you know of any (left wing) party claiming for it, using reasons different to those of the Lega Nord?

Nope, never heard of such an animal.

[Falkata]

Front National is a true nationalist party, but Lega Nord clearly isn't one, since it advocates the destruction of the Italian nation-state.

They just think their nation is "Padania" instead of Italy. Same happens here, the separatists parties are called nationalist too, like the PNV (basque nationalist party). What is Euskalherria? It was never an independent kingdom or something like that, just an artificial "nation" based in a common language (language that nobody speaks in the cities but that´s another point) and also the fiscal egoism that you´ve mentioned has an important role here.

[Mesrine]

They just think their nation is "Padania" instead of Italy.

Padania is just not a nation, and it never was.



Same happens here, the separatists parties are called nationalist too, like the PNV (basque nationalist party).

Basques and Catalans are really something else, at least they have a language, an ethno-linguistic identity.

[Falkata]

Padania is just not a nation, and it never was.




Basques and Catalans are really soemthung else, at least they have a language.

Well Catalans are claiming Catalonia, that´s something more logical than "Euskalherria" , which includes not only the Basque Country, but also Navarra, La Rioja and part of your France too :D Euskalherria never was a nation neither

http://www.indymedia.ie/attachments/aug2004/euskal_herria.jpg

[Falkata]

delete, my bad

[Mesrine]

Well Catalans are claiming Catalonia, that´s something more logical than "Euskalherria" , which includes not only the Basque Country, but also Navarra, La Rioja and part of your France too :D

It's still more logical than Padania, wich incorporates a good part of Central Italy in Bossi's wet dreams.



Euskalherria never was a nation neither

Of course they never were a political people (in the sense a Frenchman like me understands it), they never had a nation-state. But there still is a Basque people, while there is no such thing as a "Padanian people", and never was.

[Jamt]

Some cooperation is good stuff but I do not think Scandinavia and Nederland will join that.

[Brännvin]

Well, this isn't necessarily anti-nationalist. For example, Front National's n°2 Bruno Gollnisch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruno_Gollnisch) is married to Setsuko Takeuchi, a Japanese woman (they have three children).


That would be the less but in fact they are a "neoconish" party, reason why they were beaten by the socialist on last parliamentary elections in September, the Socialists campaigned more nationalistic than them.


It's my humble opinion that it is not wrong to sleep with Asian women .:p

Nothing, a cunt is a cunt, alright? :D

[Comte Arnau]

Same happens here, the separatists parties are called nationalist too, like the PNV (basque nationalist party).

It is ridiculous and absurd, the way the Socialist Party and the People's Party use the term 'nationalist' as a sort of insult when referring to nationalist Basque and Catalan parties, as if they weren't nationalist parties too. Or isn't Spain a nation for them? If they believe that Spain is a nation and support it, as they do, then they're nationalist, even if they disguise it as 'constitutionalism'.


What is Euskalherria? It was never an independent kingdom or something like that, just an artificial "nation"


Of course they never were a political people (in the sense a Frenchman like me understands it), they never had a nation-state.

Let me remind you that the Kingdom of Navarre was independent from the 9th to the 16th centuries.


"Euskalherria" , which includes not only the Basque Country, but also Navarra, La Rioja and part of your France too :D

Afaik, those claiming La Rioja as part of Euskal Herria are quite minoritarian.


Basques and Catalans are really something else, at least they have a language, an ethno-linguistic identity.

That's why I was asking. There is a certain linguistic unity in the north of Italy, as Ligurian, Piedmontese, Lombard and Emilian (and even Venetian and the Rhaeto-Romance languages, according to some linguists) form one single group. Whether it translates into some sort of 'meta-ethnicity' or unified identity, I don't know. You're right in that political unity doesn't seem to have been the case, as each one had its own republic (Venice, Genoa...).


It's still more logical than Padania, wich incorporates a good part of Central Italy in Bossi's wet dreams.

Lol. Yeah, that's obviously absurd.

[Mesrine]

That would be the less but in fact they are a "neoconish" party

That's absolutely false, at least as long as Jean-Marie Le Pen and Bruno Gollnisch will lead the party.

But when Marine Le Pen will take the part over in 2011, it's likely to change, and FN will most probably become the French equivalent of Vlaams Belang and Lega Nord. Sadly, Marine Le Pen and Louis Alliot have neoconnish views, though the social content of their political line is flawless.



reason why they were beaten by the socialist on last parliamentary elections in September, the Socialists campaigned more nationalistic than them.

What are you talking about? :confused:

[Brännvin]

What are you talking about? :confused:

I was referring to the FrP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_Party_%28Norway%29) of Norway, they are not nationalists as the article tried to declare.