Do Greek islanders have more of an Armenian, Assyrian, Turkish, or Levantine look?

[Sikeliot]

I generally think of Greek islanders as being very close to Sicilians and as such, of the above choices I would be inclined to compare more to Levantines.

However, when I see photos, a lot of them have more of a Caucasus look, akin to Armenians (Veritator, yes, you read this correctly).

[Tooting Carmen]

A mix of all the above, though I'd say SE European, Anatolian and Caucasus in equal measure, with Levantine coming a poor fourth and Mesopotamian being very rare.

[rashka]

How would a Mesopotamian look like?

[YeshAtid]

How would a Mesopotamian look like?

Iraqi Jews

[rashka]

There is a certain look that I have seen some Islanders as having and it is similar to this profile: These are Hattusha that lived in Anatolia. I was actually amazed.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-l3LZp4y2eqQ/UEe4JwD7xPI/AAAAAAAABmI/n0qv5Rxyczs/s640/060.JPG
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-M2cJQ_tD9Zk/TzVjY_jP9uI/AAAAAAAABaM/FwvIltuo03A/s1600/Hattusa-warrior.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

From what I can tell, most Greeks (islanders or mainlanders) fall into three main categories:

Pan Southern European, e.g. Lazaros Christodoulopoulos
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/20130814_AT-GR_Lazaros_Christodoulopoulos_2368.jpg

Distinctly SE European, e.g. Georgios Tzavelas
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Georgios_Tzavelas.jpg

Though less common than the above, but still important, are Near Eastern types (Anatolian/Caucasus), e.g. Nikos Spyropoulos
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bf/Nikolaos_Spiropoulos.jpg

[Sikeliot]

Distinctly SE European, e.g. Georgios Tzavelas
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Georgios_Tzavelas.jpg


This type is the one I think I fall into, when I do not alter my appearance with colored contacts and whatnot.

[Tooting Carmen]

@Sikeliot: Did you think my three examples were good then or not?

[Sikeliot]

@Sikeliot: Did you think my three examples were good then or not?

You didn't account for the lighter, pan-Balkan Pontid types but otherwise yes.

[Tooting Carmen]

You didn't account for the lighter, pan-Balkan Pontid types but otherwise yes.

Would Antonis Samaras be an example of one?
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[Sikeliot]

Would Antonis Samaras be an example of one?
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He looks South Euro to me.

I mean people like Sakis Rouvas and Tracy Spiridakos.

[gregorius]

wtf is wrong with you, they dont look like armenians at all. period

[rashka]

From what I can tell, most Greeks (islanders or mainlanders) fall into three main categories:

Distinctly SE European, e.g. Georgios Tzavelas
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Georgios_Tzavelas.jpg
He looks very Greek to me. His expression too.

[Sikeliot]

He looks very Greek to me. His expression too.

He reminds me of me.

[quaquaraqua]

Yes it's you. Anyway Christo (Bologna f.c player) doesn't look really a pan south euro look to me look just very Greek but he can pass in SI.

[Trun]

I mean people like Sakis Rouvas and Tracy Spiridakos.

They look Western, like British/French, not Balkan. And Spiridakos is atypical for Greece.

[Tooting Carmen]

They look Western, like British/French, not Balkan. And Spiridakos is atypical for Greece.

Rouvas looks more Spanish than British/French actually. But I agree about Spiridakos.

[Hellenas]

Though less common than the above, but still important, are Near Eastern types (Anatolian/Caucasus), e.g. Nikos Spyropoulos
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bf/Nikolaos_Spiropoulos.jpg

100% Aegean South-East Europoid, non-Anatolian, non-Caucasian.

With more natural skin color


http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d110/Ruberama/Serie%20A/Fangirls%20Guide%202007-8/Euros/Greece/NikolaosSpiropoulos.jpg
http://content-mcdn.sentragoal.gr/filesystem/images/20101107/low/2010082301666_108356425.jpg
http://www.naftemporiki.gr/fu/p/619708/638/399/0x000000000056576e/2/podosfairo-nikos-spuropoulos-arxeio.jpg
http://static-enet.toolip.gr/resources/2013-01/spyro-thumb-large.jpg
http://air.news.gr/cov/19/1960431_b2.jpg
http://olapaok.gr/podosfairo/article2389604.ece/ALTERNATES/w620/spyropoulos+prop.jpg
http://www.livecity.gr/thumbnail?filepath=/contentfiles/extsources/36debf360bf54eb705e7a2197b557c6a.jpg&width=663
http://www.panathinaikoskosmos.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/pic-0-norm.jpg
http://sportygossip-cdn1.wefiles.net/sites/default/files/styles/main_article/public/spuro_paok_sportygossip.jpg?itok=qerL0dCM
http://prasinanea.gr/incoming/article156969.ece/ALTERNATES/w620/SPIROPOULOS.jpg

Stop posting sun-tanned Greeks for non-Europeans, it's rediculous. Anatolids and Caucasianoids in any place of Greece are rare.

[louisk]

100% Aegean South-East Europoid, non-Anatolian, non-Caucasian.

With more natural skin color


http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d110/Ruberama/Serie%20A/Fangirls%20Guide%202007-8/Euros/Greece/NikolaosSpiropoulos.jpg
http://content-mcdn.sentragoal.gr/filesystem/images/20101107/low/2010082301666_108356425.jpg
http://www.naftemporiki.gr/fu/p/619708/638/399/0x000000000056576e/2/podosfairo-nikos-spuropoulos-arxeio.jpg
http://static-enet.toolip.gr/resources/2013-01/spyro-thumb-large.jpg
http://air.news.gr/cov/19/1960431_b2.jpg
http://olapaok.gr/podosfairo/article2389604.ece/ALTERNATES/w620/spyropoulos+prop.jpg
http://www.livecity.gr/thumbnail?filepath=/contentfiles/extsources/36debf360bf54eb705e7a2197b557c6a.jpg&width=663
http://www.panathinaikoskosmos.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/pic-0-norm.jpg
http://sportygossip-cdn1.wefiles.net/sites/default/files/styles/main_article/public/spuro_paok_sportygossip.jpg?itok=qerL0dCM
http://prasinanea.gr/incoming/article156969.ece/ALTERNATES/w620/SPIROPOULOS.jpg

Stop posting sun-tanned Greeks for non-Europeans, it's rediculous. Anatolids and Caucasianoids in any place of Greece are rare.
He looks more typical greek in these photos. I think this is the true olive complexion that people talk about. Kind of a John Stamos or Mark Philipousis look to him.

[Seth MacFarlane]

I generally think of Greek islanders as being very close to Sicilians and as such, of the above choices I would be inclined to compare more to Levantines.

However, when I see photos, a lot of them have more of a Caucasus look, akin to Armenians (Veritator, yes, you read this correctly).

Caucaucus and Anatolian look for Greek islanders , south Italians have more ppl who look Levantine and Mesopotamian then Greek islanders despite their close genetic cluster . The difference in the looks may be from phoecinian influence or directly from Jews who stopped in south Italy before going to Germany ( I seen a study recently that proves this theory which is why Jews and south Italians have phenotype overlap while Greek and Jew phenotype dont overlap. )

[spanish catalan]

Caucaucus and Anatolian look for Greek islanders , south Italians have more ppl who look Levantine and Mesopotamian then Greek islanders despite their close genetic cluster . The difference in the looks may be from phoecinian influence or directly from Jews who stopped in south Italy before going to Germany ( I seen a study recently that proves this theory which is why Jews and south Italians have phenotype overlap while Greek and Jew phenotype dont overlap. )

this

[Seth MacFarlane]

A lot of Greek islanders have a very Mediterranean look that's distunctively Greek looking . a lot have a look that is like Iberians but without the western influencee

[Faklon]

Inceliot, Sakis Rouvas is Greek islander.


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Anthrotard, you claimed my mother "looks Polish" (which admittedly to my concern she doesn't). Just stop speaking for places you don't know.

Armenoid formations were spotted along with other types in the Eastern part of Crete afaik.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Inceliot, Sakis Rouvas is Greek islander.



Anthrotard, you claimed my mother looks Polish (which admittedly to my concern she doesn't). Just stop speaking.

Armenoid formations were spotted along with other types in the Eastern part of Crete afaik.

Don't be such a buthurt wiseass , your mom has a pan central-east European look . She passes as frenxh and hungarian as well as polish , Czech etc I don't see why that upsets you maybe because I wouldnt guess her as Greek big deal . Greeks are med and she has 0 med influence so it's understandable to guess her As an alpine ethnicity rather then a med one .

[Sikeliot]

Don't be such a buthurt wiseass , your mom has a pan central-east European look . She passes as frenxh and hungarian as well as polish , Czech etc I don't see why that upsets you maybe because I wouldnt guess her as Greek big deal . Greeks are med and she has 0 med influence so it's understandable to guess her As an alpine ethnicity rather then a med one .

I would not even say most Greeks are Mediterranean in appearance when they have so much Alpine, Dinarid, etc. as well. I would say their looks are by and large Balkan not "Med".

[Faklon]

The anthrotards are unbeatable.

[Sikeliot]

The anthrotards are unbeatable.

You are welcome to leave.

[wvwvw]

I would not even say most Greeks are Mediterranean in appearance when they have so much Alpine, Dinarid, etc. as well. I would say their looks are by and large Balkan not "Med".

To me half the Balkans look med.

Greek islanders look Greek just like the rest, my Greek islander neighbour look like a carbon copy of Ricky Lake, Kalomoira has the typical Aegean look and most islandere look like that.

Some swarthier Greek islanders (because the vast majority of islanders I have known werent swarthy) look more like Cypriots and Levantilne and certainly not Anatolian or Caucasian.

Not all Greek islanders are native, in Rhodes for ex. live some 15,000 Turks and Armenians, some Pontians live in some other islands, some gypsies among the local population like in mainland.

[Guapo]

The anthrotards are unbeatable.

have a cupcake, it will cheer you up!

http://www.the-girl-who-ate-everything.com/wp-content/uploads/blogger/_A39cgxoHN64/S4x3eGyZksI/AAAAAAAAEc8/__X8gayQJpc/s1600/rainbow-cupcakes-unwrapped.jpg

[Sikeliot]

Greek islanders look Greek just like the rest, my Greek islander neighbour look like a carbon copy of Ricky Lake, Kalomoira has the typical Aegean look and most islandere look like that.

She could be some kind of Italian too.

http://www.tlife.gr/files/Image/NEWS/2011/MAIOS11/16-05/kalomoira2.jpg

[Guapo]

She could be some kind of Italian too.

http://www.tlife.gr/files/Image/NEWS/2011/MAIOS11/16-05/kalomoira2.jpg

anyone that looks greek can be some kind of Italian

[Sikeliot]

anyone that looks greek can be some kind of Italian

Not Tracy Spiridakos or anyone who looks like her, and she does look Greek but of a different type.

[wvwvw]

A lot of Greek islanders have a very Mediterranean look that's distunctively Greek looking . a lot have a look that is like Iberians but without the western influencee

A lot of Greek islanders don't look Levantine-east at all but could easily pass as Iberians as they can look both east med and west med. And a great many greek islanders don't fit at all the stereotype that many have here. A great many i know, from Santorini f.ex have light eyes, are as light as other greeks, my friend from santorini is often mistaken for French abroad f.ex.

[Sikeliot]

A lot of Greek islanders don't look Levantine-east at all but could easily pass as Iberians as they can look both east med and west med. And a great many greek islanders don't fit at all the stereotype that many have here. A great many i know, from Santorini f.ex have light eyes, are as light as other greeks, my friend from santorini is often mistaken for French abroad.

I didn't think islanders looked Levantine but I think that some of them could be Turkish. You will probably say they are of Turkish descent, that not all of the people on the islands are ethnic Greeks, people have been moved around under the Ottomans etc.

Someone told me the people on Samos are light, which is interesting given its location. Likewise someone on Anthroscape I remember said once they went to the Dodecanese and the people looked like those in southeastern Spain.

[wvwvw]

anyone that looks greek can be some kind of Italian

I can distinguish them, but her look is native Aegean islander

[Sikeliot]

I can distinguish them, but her look is native Aegean islander

Her look is common in central and southern Italians. Not that she doesn't look Greek (she does) but not so distinctly that she could not pass as Italian also.

[Faklon]

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Kalomoira isn't from the islands but from Sparta, Southern Peloponnese and doesn't look "typical" for many localities imo.

[wvwvw]

I didn't think islanders looked Levantine but I think that some of them could be Turkish. You will probably say they are of Turkish descent, that not all of the people on the islands are ethnic Greeks, people have been moved around under the Ottomans etc.

Someone told me the people on Samos are light, which is interesting given its location. Likewise someone on Anthroscape I remember said once they went to the Dodecanese and the people looked like those in southeastern Spain.

If by Turkish you mean the Turks from the coast of Turkey maybe, I haven't been to Turkey, but I have seen that Western Turkey is heavily repopulated by Turkmens and Turks from other parts of Turkey. The swarthiest islanders have a Cypriot look.

[Faklon]

Here is a guy from Tinos of mediterranid type by Von Luschan.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZITc_FawFVg/VS0z3o-HyQI/AAAAAAAACu4/0iW_G4w3McY/s1600/greek%2Bmediterranid.jpg

[wvwvw]

Kalomoira isn't from the islands but from Sparta, Southern Peloponnese and doesn't look "typical" for many localities imo.

It doesn't matter where she is from as she has a Greek islander look. I grew up among people from Naxos, Santorini and other Greek islanders, I have childhood friends, I have seen their relatives visiting them, I have visited these islands so I know what I am talking about.

[Seth MacFarlane]

A lot of Greek islanders don't look Levantine-east at all but could easily pass as Iberians as they can look both east med and west med. And a great many greek islanders don't fit at all the stereotype that many have here. A great many i know, from Santorini f.ex have light eyes, are as light as other greeks, my friend from santorini is often mistaken for French abroad f.ex.

Lol I know all of this . And I know most don't look Levantine but there are some more exotic ones who look like Greek Cypriots , and the most extreme ones may look like there from the Caucasus but the average one looks like southern euro meds

[Odin]

None.

[Tauromachos]

I generally think of Greek islanders as being very close to Sicilians and as such, of the above choices I would be inclined to compare more to Levantines.

However, when I see photos, a lot of them have more of a Caucasus look, akin to Armenians (Veritator, yes, you read this correctly).

Neither they look predominantly Greek

[Tauromachos]

It doesn't matter where she is from as she has a Greek islander look. I grew up among people from Naxos, Santorini and other Greek islanders, I have childhood friends, I have seen their relatives visiting them, I have visited these islands so I know what I am talking about.

Its because Greek Islanders don't look realy different from everything Mainland Greek.

Its just Sikeliot's idiot obsession.:picard1:

He always tries to present Greek Islanders as if they were an own ethnicity and he is a real cunt for doing that.

The singer Kalomoira posted here as Southern Italian looking is indeed not Island Greek"as Faklon pointed already out" but has Southern Mainland ancestry from
Lakonia Niata village which is approximately 22 km from Molaon.

[Tauromachos]

Not Tracy Spiridakos or anyone who looks like her, and she does look Greek but of a different type.
And??
Whats the point?

Both Tracy Spiridakos and Kalomoira are from the same region ,Lakonia in Southern Mainland Greece:lol:
It only proves that your misconceptions about Greeks are flawed.

[Kouros]

@Sikeliot: Did you think my three examples were good then or not?

Last guy just looks plain Turkish to me