Classify these councillors from Valladolid, Western Spain, and where can they pass?

[Tooting Carmen]

A partial revival of another thread, except this time I shall post the photos themselves as well as the links.

http://www.partidopopularava.com/modules.php?name=Grupopopular1115&file=aytoava

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/Francisco_Javier_Le%C3%B3n_de_la_Riva_(2011).jpg (The Mayor)
http://ppmedinadelcampo.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/84722328-ecea-2f57-0a6fb0dd3f5ce224.jpg http://www.partidopopularava.com/fotos_grupo_0711/images/08__Manuel_Sanchez_Fernandez.jpghttp://www.partidopopularava.com/fotos_grupo_0711/images/06__Mercedes_Cantalapiedra_Alvarez.jpg http://www.partidopopularava.com/fotos_grupo_0711/images/05__Rosa_Hernandez_del_Campo.jpg http://www.partidopopularava.com/fotos_grupo_0711/images/04__Jesus_Enriquez_Tauler.jpg http://www.partidopopularava.com/fotos_grupo_0711/images/14__Cristina_Vidal_Fernandez.jpg http://www.partidopopularava.com/fotos_grupo_0711/images/10__Alfredo_Blanco_Montero.jpg http://www.partidopopularava.com/fotos_grupo_0711/images/09__Domi_Fernandez_Rodriguez.jpg http://www.partidopopularava.com/fotos_grupo_1115/piclens_thumbs/11_beatriz_rodriguez_ruiz.jpg http://i.promecal.es/IMG/2013/F2955854-B4D4-8928-C23D71F6B969FF14.JPG http://www.partidopopularava.com/fotos_grupo_1115/piclens_thumbs/13_paloma_vallejo_quevedo.jpg http://www.partidopopularava.com/fotos_grupo_0711/images/13__Gonzalo_Hernandez_Santamaria.jpg http://www.partidopopularava.com/fotos_grupo_1115/images/15_luis_antonio_gomez_iglesias.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_79E0EmitYck/Sxd1JmDXwhI/AAAAAAAAGHU/0hS1z9KB-dk/s400/Borja+Garc%C3%ADa+Carvaja,+presidente+de+las+Nueva s+Generaciones+de+Valladolid.l.jpg http://ocio.elnortedecastilla.es/files/images/noticias/gilveronapeq.jpg http://www.repubblica.it/images/2013/07/30/135858834-e45437b8-5eb2-4853-b5f1-9efb948fd560.jpg http://www.partidopopularava.com/fotos_grupo_1115/images/fernado_rubio_ballestero.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

http://www.psoeava.org/grupo.asp

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/Oscar_Puente_Santiago.jpg http://www.psoeava.org/imagenes/concejales/2.jpg http://www.psoeava.org/imagenes/concejales/3.jpg http://www.elnortedecastilla.es/prensa/noticias/200905/17/fotos/1947670.jpg http://soydetudela.elnortedecastilla.es/archivos/201310/victoria-soto-264xXx80.jpg http://www.psoeava.org/imagenes/concejales/cabecera6.jpg http://www.psoeava.org/imagenes/concejales/cabecera7.jpg http://lh6.ggpht.com/-zeTLa2N0X6g/T9IxjQrGIPI/AAAAAAAAAfk/-fRarGJ_ETQ/pedro%252520herrero.jpg http://www.diputaciondevalladolid.es/imagenes/img_not_prensa/2008/Abril/presentacion_libros_prehistoria_y_naturaleza4G.jpg (man second from left)

[Tooting Carmen]

Bump

[Kalimtari]

spanish women are so many times just, WOW!

[Tooting Carmen]

spanish women are so many times just, WOW!

Yes, but how'd you classify the ones here?

[Anthropologique]

At least three are atypical. There are quite a few LatAms floating around Spain.

[Tooting Carmen]

At least three are atypical. There are quite a few LatAms floating around Spain.

If you check their biographies in the links, they were all born in Spain, and most of the immigration began in the 90s, so it is not that likely.

[Anthropologique]

These are better examples of typical Spaniards:

[Anthropologique]

If you check their biographies in the links, they were all born in Spain, and most of the immigration began in the 90s, so it is not that likely.

Doesn't matter. Many Spaniards came back to Spain from places like Venezuela and other countries in the lower Western Hemisphere well before that. Some married LatAm locals.

Also, at least one looks suspiciously Canarian.

[Anthropologique]

^^

Notice the differences from those you posted:

Please ignore the second shot down. That's a pic of Portuguese. Sorry.

[Tooting Carmen]

^^

Notice the differences from those you posted:

Please ignore the second shot down. That's a pic of Portuguese. Sorry.

With perhaps a couple of exceptions, the ones I posted look pretty similar to the people in those photos. Anyway, does anyone want to have a go at classifying?

[Anthropologique]

With perhaps a couple of exceptions, the ones I posted look pretty similar to the people in those photos. Anyway, does anyone want to have a go at classifying?


There are 3-4 individuals who look rather "suspicious." Posting group shots is much better. Unfortunately, you always seem to favor presenting outliers or mixed types when it comes to Iberia.

Ask the Spaniards and Portuguese what they think.

[Kalimtari]

Yes, but how'd you classify the ones here?

cute? :D

[Sikeliot]

Most are much darker than I'd expect. A few of them even look kind of North African.

[Tooting Carmen]

Most are much darker than I'd expect. A few of them even look kind of North African.

Try again. Only a small number are darker than average. Which ones look North African???

[Sikeliot]

Try again. Only a small number are darker than average. Which ones look North African???

The third and fourth down. If you're going to ask my opinion don't tell me I am wrong.

[YeshAtid]

The third and fourth down. If you're going to ask my opinion don't tell me I am wrong.

They don't look north African at all.

[Tooting Carmen]

The third and fourth down. If you're going to ask my opinion don't tell me I am wrong.

These? How do they look North African?
http://www.partidopopularava.com/fotos_grupo_0711/images/08__Manuel_Sanchez_Fernandez.jpghttp://www.partidopopularava.com/fotos_grupo_0711/images/06__Mercedes_Cantalapiedra_Alvarez.jpg

[Sikeliot]

They look like light North Africans. I can show you similar coastal Moroccans.

[Anthropologique]

They look like light North Africans. I can show you similar coastal Moroccans.

He tends to pick the darkest and least Spanish looking people. There are Canarians and people of LatAm and Gypsy descent all over Spain and some happen to be in politics. You should see what Vita did with Portuguese. He posted an obvious mulatta. LOL!

[YeshAtid]

They look like light North Africans. I can show you similar coastal Moroccans.

http://www.elnortedecastilla.es/pg060719/prensa/fotos/200607/19/002D3VP1_1.jpg-very atlanto med:picard2:

[Anthropologique]

With perhaps a couple of exceptions, the ones I posted look pretty similar to the people in those photos. Anyway, does anyone want to have a go at classifying?

Most do not. Why should we classify some people who are likely not native?

[Smeagol]

Are they really all Spanish? I doubt it.

[Anthropologique]

Are they really all Spanish? I doubt it.

Consider the character who has been posting pics like this in recent weeks. He finds the most dubious types and claims they are native.

[Anthropologique]

Are they really all Spanish? I doubt it.

I mean, you would think people would know better. So many racially insecure clowns spreading lies and misrepresentations about other ethnicities. Serious mental illness.

[Tooting Carmen]

Anyone can open the links posted above the photos and check the names, biographies and backgrounds of the councillors for themselves. Unlike Britain, France and Germany, Spain did not have mass immigration until the 1990s, so it is not especially likely they are of foreign descent.

[Anthropologique]

Anyone can open the links posted above the photos and check the names, biographies and backgrounds of the councillors for themselves. Unlike Britain, France and Germany, Spain did not have mass immigration until the 1990s, so it is not especially likely they are of foreign descent.

If they don't appear to be in the range of NATIVE Spaniards posted all over TA, then they are suspicious. I can bet that at least three or four people you posted have recent extra-Euro influences. One looks stone coastal Moroccan ... From the guy who posted a Cape Verdean and other admixed people as indigenous Portuguese. LOL!

You and your jack-assing buddies are just producing mound and mounds of flapdoodle ...

[mikeyup]

they look fairly familiar, some more than others but overall it's ok...

[Tooting Carmen]

they look fairly familiar, some more than others but overall it's ok...

How would you classify them?

[mikeyup]

How would you classify them?

atlanto-meds overall… i'm not good with classifications.

[Sikeliot]

Most look pan-Southern European to me. A few are typical Atlantids, and a few look exotic as I pointed out. More Med, less Atlantic than what I would have expected.

[Anthropologique]

Sock puppet time. OYYYY

[Sikeliot]

In order:

Med
Med-Berid
Med
Med-Berid-CM
Atlanto-Med
Atlantid
Berid-Med
Atlanto-Berid
Berberid (I missed her before, she looks most North African of all)
Med
Med-CM (looks Sicilian or Greek)
Atlantid
Atlanto-Berid
Alpine
Left: Med, Right: Med
Nordo-Baskid
CM
Berid
Atlantid-Alpine
The three in a row: Med, Atlantid-Alpine, South Med-Berid
Top: Berid, Bottom: Med
Atlantid
Meds and Berids

[WOOHP]

There are 3-4 individuals who look rather "suspicious." Posting group shots is much better. Unfortunately, you always seem to favor presenting outliers or mixed types when it comes to Iberia.

Ask the Spaniards and Portuguese what they think.


they look fairly familiar, some more than others but overall it's ok...

^^

I don't get it. If they're not native then what are they? South Americans? I think not.

[Empecinado]

It's more accurate to post young people. They are not from Valladolid but from a neighbor province, Leon:

http://adelantobanezano.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Equipo_F%C3%BAtbol_La_Ba%C3%B1eza.jpg

http://www.elbierzodigital.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/femenino_aspontesg.jpg

http://zetaestaticos.com/leon/img/noticias/0/748/748290_1.jpg

http://www.elbierzodigital.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/graduacion-la-asuncion-660x411.jpg

http://www.leonoticias.com/adjuntos/fichero_88305_20130528.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-60tXeuMX2-w/UlcvvGyYbOI/AAAAAAAA_GA/G9auSp4CPLc/s1600/w_teleno1.jpg

[Anthropologique]

It's more accurate to post young people. They are not from Valladolid but from a neighbor province, Leon:

http://adelantobanezano.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Equipo_F%C3%BAtbol_La_Ba%C3%B1eza.jpg

http://www.elbierzodigital.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/femenino_aspontesg.jpg

http://zetaestaticos.com/leon/img/noticias/0/748/748290_1.jpg

http://www.elbierzodigital.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/graduacion-la-asuncion-660x411.jpg

http://www.leonoticias.com/adjuntos/fichero_88305_20130528.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-60tXeuMX2-w/UlcvvGyYbOI/AAAAAAAA_GA/G9auSp4CPLc/s1600/w_teleno1.jpg

Thank you. As I've ben saying all along, Iberians are mainly Atlantic in appearance with a strong West Med minority.

Why people cherry pick individual photos of Iberians who are highly atypical or mixed is beyond me ... trollish

[Odin]

Mainly Atlantids/Atlanto-Meds, and few Berids. Pass in SW Europe.