Atlantids of Norway?

[CordedWhelp]

One way Norway stands out from Sweden and Denmark is a relatively much higher incidence of Atlantid racial types. What are ideas as to why this is?

[Smeagol]

Western Norway has more of a Paleo-Atlantid strain, that the other Scandinavian countries don't have. Overall though, Atlantid/Paleo-Atlantid influences in Norway are rare.

[Peikko]

This atlantidness of Norway is actually one of these BS anthro-myths. It's usually maintained by Atlantic fuckadists. Norwegians look nordic.

[WOOHP]

Great, more about this.

[Smaug]

WOOHP told me about those Scandoatlantids, he showed some pictures, and said that I could pass in Scandinavia. It would be nice if he or other Scandos posted pictures of there Atlantids. Pallantides seemed to have Atlantid influences by theb" way.

[Peikko]

WOOHP told me about those Scandoatlantids, he showed some pictures, and said that I could pass in Scandinavia. It would be nice if he or other Scandos posted pictures of there Atlantids. Pallantides seemed to have Atlantid influences by theb" way.

I think Palla actually had lappid influence. You can call it atlantid, if you want.

[HillY35]

I imagine the most noticeable "Atlantid" feature would be a rather high incidence of narrow-headedness? This is actually interesting, it occurs to me now as I'm thinking about it...that the typical Nordic is stereotyped with narrow-headedness and a high forehead, when we think of Vikings (which let's admit, is Scandinavia's historical representative in popular culture)... Am I making sense?

[Anthropologique]

I think Palla actually had lappid influence. You can call it atlantid, if you want.

Yes, Lappid. He just posted many Norwegian Atlantids. They are uncommon but not rare. I smell another troll thread here.

[Sharkeatpeople]

It's just Tydal type rather.

[Peikko]

Yes, Lappid. He just posted many Norwegian Atlantids. They are uncommon but not rare. I smell another troll thread here.
Sure there are darker Norwegians there and maybe there's even Norwegians who could pass as Iberians. I jusr doubt that it's common.

[WOOHP]

WOOHP told me about those Scandoatlantids, he showed some pictures, and said that I could pass in Scandinavia. It would be nice if he or other Scandos posted pictures of there Atlantids. Pallantides seemed to have Atlantid influences by theb" way.
Bascially "darker" and slightly Med influenced typical Scandinavian Nordids. They arn't that uncommon all over Scandinavia and I'm sure that there's no way of noticing where they are more frequent.

Some of the hockey players I posted in the Swedish people thread.

These two: Atlantid, maybe even Atlanto-Med

http://cdn.shl.se/photos/player/200/420.jpghttp://cdn2.shl.se/photos/player/200/2184.jpg

These four: Atlanto-Nordid/North Atlantid

http://cdn2.shl.se/photos/player/200/290.jpghttp://cdn2.shl.se/photos/player/200/1743.jpghttp://cdn2.shl.se/photos/player/200/1744.jpghttp://cdn1.shl.se/photos/player/200/1997.jpg

[Smaug]

Bascially "darker" and slightly Med influenced typical Scandinavian Nordids. They arn't that uncommon all over Scandinavia and I'm sure that there's no way of noticing where they are more frequent.

Some of the hockey players I posted in the Swedish people thread.

These two: Atlantid, maybe even Atlanto-Med

http://cdn.shl.se/photos/player/200/420.jpghttp://cdn2.shl.se/photos/player/200/2184.jpg

These four: Atlanto-Nordid/North Atlantid

http://cdn2.shl.se/photos/player/200/290.jpghttp://cdn2.shl.se/photos/player/200/1743.jpghttp://cdn2.shl.se/photos/player/200/1744.jpghttp://cdn1.shl.se/photos/player/200/1997.jpg

Interesting, thank you. I think they are more frequent in Western Norway. I remember there was even a thread about Alpinoids and Atlantids in Western Norway back in Skadi. Don't ask me why I had an account there.

[dralos]

danes are lighter than norwegians thats a fact

[Furnace]

danes are lighter than norwegians thats a fact

Who cares if that is a fact?

[dralos]

Who cares if that is a fact?
you're a swarthy norwegian not a beautiful uber nordid dane :D

[gold_fenix]

The western of Norway has types who would be in a atlantid espectrum, i have asked to Norwegian about the west of Norway out of antro boards and they said there is relativity higher the frecuency of darker types, it is curious but in the west of Norway is higher the R1b haplogroup, so perhaps this zone had pre Britis invasion and or bronze age invasors, anyway the swarthiness of W Norwegians surely has been exagerated in anthroboads

[Smaug]

It's just Tydal type rather.

Tydal is just a Scandinavian variation of the Atlantid type just like Pontids are an eastern variation of it.


I think Palla actually had lappid influence. You can call it atlantid, if you want.

Yes, he had Lappid influences.

[Smeagol]

Tydal is just a Scandinavian variation of the Atlantid type just like Pontids are an eastern variation of it.

Tydal is just a dark pigmented Cromagnid. It is considered a Paleo-Atlantid type.

[Neanderthal]

I don't know if Pallantides can be trusted on this. He kept telling me I could pass in Norway, but i'm not sure if he was serious or not.

[Smaug]

Tydal is just a dark pigmented Cromagnid. It is considered a Paleo-Atlantid type.

Paleoatlantids also belong to the Atlantid spectrum.

[Smeagol]

Paleoatlantids also belong to the Atlantid spectrum.

True, but they aren't Aurignacoid types like Atlantid/Atlanto-Mediterranid, or Pontid.

[Smaug]

True, but they aren't Aurignacoid types like Atlantid/Atlanto-Mediterranid, or Pontid.

Indeed, even though I think that Atlantids are less Aurignacoid than Atlanto-Med and North-Atlantids.

[dralos]

Indeed, even though I think that Atlantids are less Aurignacoid than Atlanto-Med and North-Atlantids.
we atlantids rock

[Smaug]

we atlantids rock

I agree boyo!

[Dombra]

Atlantid population/phenotype was composed by expelled Norweigians who were neither good looking Nordics or badass cromagnids. The paleo-atlantids in Norway today are descendants of the proto-atlantids hiding

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[dralos]

Atlantid population/phenotype was composed by expelled Norweigians who were neither good looking Nordics or badass cromagnids. The paleo-atlantids in Norway today are descendants of the proto-atlantids hiding

http://stickerish.com/wp-content/themes/mio/sp-framework/timthumb/timthumb.php?src=http://stickerish.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/TrueStoryBlackTextSS.png&h=500&w=500&zc=2&q=100&a=c&s=&f=&cc=&ct=
dont talk like that about my brothers,you nordic scum

[WOOHP]

Tydal is just a dark pigmented Cromagnid. It is considered a Paleo-Atlantid type.

Dark pigmented for Scandinavia maybe but hardly for the rest of Europe.

[Übermensch]

Norwegians are actually lighter than Swedes in terms of hair/eyecolour, there are both in Norway and Sweden darker and robust cromagnid types (paleoatlantids) that are more common in Norway, med phenotypes is pretty much absent in Scandinavia,except if we count Danubian as med, and as an occurence of 2-3% in both Sweden and Norway.

[Twistedmind]

Paleoatlantid=/=Atlantid.

[Útrám]

It's combination of things; Slavery of Kelts("The swarthy thrall") and lappid admixture.

[Peikko]

Interesting, thank you. I think they are more frequent in Western Norway. I remember there was even a thread about Alpinoids and Atlantids in Western Norway back in Skadi. Don't ask me why I had an account there.
Because you're a wannabe-ubermensch? How did they let you in, wouldn't Brazilians be banned?

[JeanBaMac]

One way Norway stands out from Sweden and Denmark is a relatively much higher incidence of Atlantid racial types. What are ideas as to why this is?

True atlantids are more common in Ireland than in Norway, due to Celtic ancestry.
Norwegian phenotypes are mostly : Nordid (Hallstatt Nordic, Corded Nordic), Cro-Magnid (Borreby/Fälish, Baltid, Tydal), and Nordo-cromagnid (Tronder type).

[Grace O'Malley]

I don't think these phenotype classifications mean a lot to be honest. Whether someone is classified as an Atlantid, Tronder or whatever else classification people will cluster with their own countrymen. An Atlantid in Spain doesn't have any particular connection with an Atlantid in Norway.

[Trun]

Tydal is just a Scandinavian variation of the Atlantid type just like Pontids are an eastern variation of it.

Pontid is the eastern equivalent of Atlanto-Med. You meant North Pontid probably.

[Rædwald]

We Viking now. :cool:

[Kalimtari]

GOD DAMN, are there any bad looking people in Scandinavia? Srsly, wtf?!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGPzGJeIbOw

Are you killing ugly people? :D :P

[archangel]

better to have western looking north atlantids rather than have these baltid like look which is common among scandavians just like slav and balts

[Smeagol]

I don't think these phenotype classifications mean a lot to be honest. Whether someone is classified as an Atlantid, Tronder or whatever else classification people will cluster with their own countrymen. An Atlantid in Spain doesn't have any particular connection with an Atlantid in Norway.

Well genetically they would cluster with their countrymen, but racially, in their specialization, Norwegian Atlantids would be closer to Spanish Atlantids than to Norwegian Dalofaelids for example.

[archangel]

slavs,balts and germanics(scandavians,germans etc..) seem to look more peasent like with their faelid and baltoid look while Celts look more aristocratic like with their north atlantid component,you can see this in the books of Tolkien too

Numenoreans were described as tall, dark haired people with grey eyes and beatiful features,while rohirrim were more like slavs or germans with their lighter hair and short statue compared to higher men(Numenoreans)

[Argang]

Well genetically they would cluster with their countrymen, but racially, in their specialization, Norwegian Atlantids would be closer to Spanish Atlantids than to Norwegian Dalofaelids for example.

Someone who clusters with Norwegians genetically is "racially" Scandinavian. There can be aesthetic differences between individuals from the same population, but it is of little consequence. Ugliness can be cured by the gym and the knife. :)

[Smeagol]

Someone who clusters with Norwegians genetically is "racially" Scandinavian.

They are Scandinavian obviously, but there is no one Scandinavian race.

[Argang]

They are Scandinavian obviously, but there is no one Scandinavian race.

In a sense that they are part of a larger North European genetic group, then European group, Eurasian group and then Homo Sapiens. I don't really give much thought to non-genetic theories of "race".

[Stimpy]

Norwegians being more atlantid than any other Scandinavian country is just another antromyth. Just like some people on here seem to believe that the majority of Swedes are Halstatt-nordid when in reality there's not really that many. I've figured out that this guy Pallantides or whatever have given many on here here a pretty weird view of Norwegians by posting almost only atypical examples like Atlantids, Lappids and even Dinarids(!).

Scandinavians are EXTREMELY similar looking. I say this as a Swede who has visited several regions of all Scandinavian countries multiple times. All people I've heard of that has said otherwise have been non-Scandos, many who haven't even been to Scandinavia.
80-90% of all ethnic Scandinavians are Borreby, different kinds of Nordids and Faelids - or even more typical, mixes of those. (Trønder/NordoCM)

[dralos]

i think i fit as a norwegian atlantid :D

[Rædwald]

Norwegians being more atlantid than any other Scandinavian country is just another antromyth. Just like some people on here seem to believe that the majority of Swedes are Halstatt-nordid when in reality there's not really that many. I've figured out that this guy Pallantides or whatever have given many on here here a pretty weird view of Norwegians by posting almost only atypical examples like Atlantids, Lappids and even Dinarids(!).

Scandinavians are EXTREMELY similar looking. I say this as a Swede who has visited several regions of all Scandinavian countries multiple times. All people I've heard of that has said otherwise have been non-Scandos, many who haven't even been to Scandinavia.
80-90% of all ethnic Scandinavians are Borreby, different kinds of Nordids and Faelids - or even more typical, mixes of those. (Trønder/NordoCM)

I lived in Scandinavia for about half a year in Norway and Sweden; this statement couldn't be more accurate :thumb001:

[The King, I am]

i think i fit as a norwegian atlantid :D

You'd stick out like a sore thumb

[dralos]

You'd stick out like a sore thumb
whats that pooplooking dude

[The King, I am]

whats that pooplooking dude

are you angry? its fine if you are the truth hurts sometimes

[Grace O'Malley]

Well genetically they would cluster with their countrymen, but racially, in their specialization, Norwegian Atlantids would be closer to Spanish Atlantids than to Norwegian Dalofaelids for example.

I think that classifying people is pseudo-science. It's from over a century ago when people didn't have the knowledge that they do today. Also genetics prove that there is no genetic relationship with these types. You could have an Atlantid looking person and a Dalofaelid looking person who are brothers. It doesn't give any more information on where a person is from. Genetics is the way ahead in understanding populations.

[Smaug]

I think that classifying people is pseudo-science. It's from over a century ago when people didn't have the knowledge that they do today. Also genetics prove that there is no genetic relationship with these types. You could have an Atlantid looking person and a Dalofaelid looking person who are brothers. It doesn't give any more information on where a person is from. Genetics is the way ahead in understanding populations.

The Atlantid-looking brother is very lucky. Ok ok, I'm joking everybody! Let's not make a war!

[archangel]

North atlantids are superior to common slavic and germanic look:cool:

[Grace O'Malley]

The Atlantid-looking brother is very lucky. Ok ok, I'm joking everybody! Let's not make a war!

The Atlantic look is very nice but I'm just not an advocate of the classification system. I just think it is a bit outdated but it is fun to classify people. I just don't think being Atlantid means you're related to an Atlantid in another country. Also there is a bit of a bias in classifications. People that look similar are classified differently depending on the countries they are from. :)

[Smaug]

The Atlantic look is very nice but I'm just not an advocate of the classification system. I just think it is a bit outdated but it is fun to classify people. I just don't think being Atlantid means you're related to an Atlantid in another country. Also there is a bit of a bias in classifications. People that look similar are classified differently depending on the countries they are from. :)

I agree. It is all pseudo-science anyway, but I like making fun of those who take it seriously as if it were the climax of Human cuture. Atlanticism is nothing more nothing less than a satire to Nordicism, which is followed by many.

[Übermensch]

Dark hair in Norway is very rare (meaning dark brown,black) and brown eyes even more so, most of Norwegians have a shade of blond hair or red hair, with dark blond (a brownish/yellowish color) being the most common hair color, the second red-blond, the third white-blond.
Some Norwegians have medium or light brown hair but they are a minority and even when they don't have blond/red hair they still have light or light mixed eyes, an even smaller minority has dark brown hair,black hair is very rare, dark or dark mixed eyes are very rare.
So there could be few atlantids in Norway.
Most of people in Norway are heavily Paleolithic/mesolithic, BORREBY/BRUENN/TROENDER dominates, with big heads and faces (both broad and long),robust body types.

Hair color:

25% red-blond
15% white-blond
10% red
30% dark blond-brownish-yellowish
15% medium or light brown
4,5% dark brown
0,5% black

eye colour:

Blue (dark): 30%
Blue (pale): 20%
blue (hazel or blue/green): 30%
green (light): 10%
grey: 7%
dark green/brownish green: 2,8%
brown: 0,2%

averege measuraments in Norway:

Head lenght: 198 mm
Head breadht: 155 mm
head height: 128 mm
minium frontal: 107 mm
byzigomatic: 144 mm
bigonial: 110 mm
total facial height: 130 mm
Nasal height: 60 mm
nasal breadht: 38 mm

Head circumference (averege): 60 cm
shoulder widht (bi-deltoid): 59 cm
Averege height: 181 cm

Norwegians are a very large headed and depigmentated northwestern european population.

[Smeagol]

I think that classifying people is pseudo-science. It's from over a century ago when people didn't have the knowledge that they do today. Also genetics prove that there is no genetic relationship with these types. You could have an Atlantid looking person and a Dalofaelid looking person who are brothers. It doesn't give any more information on where a person is from. Genetics is the way ahead in understanding populations.

Well the typological method was still used until about the 1990s in many parts of Europe. There doesn't necessarily need to be a genetic relationship between the types. What race describes is primarily the specialisation, the process of evolution on a local, population level.

[Caismeachd]

I've noticed this as well. Don't Norwegians have a bit of celtic ancestry from mingling in Scotland and Ireland so long?

[Caismeachd]

Dark hair in Norway is very rare (meaning dark brown,black) and brown eyes even more so, most of Norwegians have a shade of blond hair or red hair, with dark blond (a brownish/yellowish color) being the most common hair color, the second red-blond, the third white-blond.
Some Norwegians have medium or light brown hair but they are a minority and even when they don't have blond/red hair they still have light or light mixed eyes, an even smaller minority has dark brown hair,black hair is very rare, dark or dark mixed eyes are very rare.
So there could be few atlantids in Norway.
Most of people in Norway are heavily Paleolithic/mesolithic, BORREBY/BRUENN/TROENDER dominates, with big heads and faces (both broad and long),robust body types.

Hair color:

25% red-blond
15% white-blond
10% red
30% dark blond-brownish-yellowish
15% medium or light brown
4,5% dark brown
0,5% black

eye colour:

Blue (dark): 30%
Blue (pale): 20%
blue (hazel or blue/green): 30%
green (light): 10%
grey: 7%
dark green/brownish green: 2,8%
brown: 0,2%

averege measuraments in Norway:

Head lenght: 198 mm
Head breadht: 155 mm
head height: 128 mm
minium frontal: 107 mm
byzigomatic: 144 mm
bigonial: 110 mm
total facial height: 130 mm
Nasal height: 60 mm
nasal breadht: 38 mm

Head circumference (averege): 60 cm
shoulder widht (bi-deltoid): 59 cm
Averege height: 181 cm

Norwegians are a very large headed and depigmentated northwestern european population.

Brown hair in Norway isn't rare at all.

[Norb]

bump

[21993]

It might be existent but rare, I think.

[Pansarkamrat]

My fathers is that racial type. They exist in Scandinavia but are rare.