Talk show host delivers DNA test results to white supremacist town founder

[Herbalist]

Talk show host delivers DNA test results to white supremacist town founder: ‘You have a little black in you’

A white supremacist who’s trying to set up a racist enclave in North Dakota received a shock during the taping of an upcoming daytime talk show.

Craig Cobb submitted to a DNA test as part of an ongoing Race in America series on the syndicated “Trisha Show,” and host Trisha Goddard delivered some surprising test results to the 62-year-old hate crimes fugitive from Canada in an episode that will air Nov. 18.

As her studio audience laughed with delight, Goddard, who is black, told Cobb that test results revealed his genetic ancestry was 86 European and 14 percent sub-Saharan African.

Cobb took in the news with a fixed grin before looking around, as if for assistance, and insisted the results were nothing but “statistical noise.”

As the audience continued roaring its approval, Goddard said: “You have a little black in you.”

But Cobb disagreed.

“I’ll tell you this,” Cobb said. “Oil and water don’t mix.”

Goddard stood up and attempted a fist bump with Cobb, saying, “Hey, bro,” but the white supremacist pulled away his hand and refused to participate.

Cobb told The Daily Mail that he agreed to the test because he “assumed it was science,” but he dismissed the test results as flawed and produced by “craven and debased” television executives who aimed only to shock and “promote multiculturalism.”

He said Jeff Schoep, the leader of the National Socialist Movement, laughed when told of the test results.

Even if another test showed similar results, Cobb said he would still consider himself a “border guard for the purebreds.”

Cobb recently purchased a home and 12 other lots in Leith, North Dakota, in hopes of setting up a racially exclusive town he planned to call the “Village of the Damned.”

But the town’s zoning board approved a building moratorium and other procedural moves that would prevent Cobb and his supporters from living on property without sewer and water service or squatting there in tents or trailers.

Cobb has appeared on ‘The Trisha Show’ several times.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/11/talk-show-host-delivers-dna-test-results-to-white-supremacist-town-founder-you-have-a-little-black-in-you/

[Proctor]

14%? That's quite a bit.

[Sikeliot]

Either it was fabricated in order to prove a point, or he has recent African American ancestry.. but at 14% he should surely have some relatives who look admixed.. my mother has 3-4% SSA and even I can point to relatives in family photos from 1900 that look a bit mixed.

[Peikko]

Wouldn't it show? Maybe that WN-dude knew it, but tried to compensate his lack of "whiteness" by becoming extremist.

[Sikeliot]

Wouldn't it show? Maybe that WN-dude knew it, but tried to compensate his lack of "whiteness" by becoming extremist.

This.

At 14% SSA, unless it is dispersed evenly on both sides of the family, it means one of his parents is a quadroon. Surely if that is true he would know. I was surprised my own SSA admixture (or rather, my mother's) isn't higher considering my mother has personally met relatives on her Cape Verdean side who look clearly admixed.. at 14% there's no way you'd be oblivious to it.

[Proctor]

This.

At 14% SSA, unless it is dispersed evenly on both sides of the family, it means one of his parents is a quadroon. Surely if that is true he would know. I was surprised my own SSA admixture (or rather, my mother's) isn't higher considering my mother has personally met relatives on her Cape Verdean side who look clearly admixed.. at 14% there's no way you'd be oblivious to it.

You put it well. It also doesn't show up in his phenotype, so I find this story kinda strange.

[Sikeliot]

You put it well. It also doesn't show up in his phenotype, so I find this story kinda strange.

I think the results are fake, personally. If he really knew he was part SSA, which at 14% it'd be impossible not to, he would not have agreed to the DNA test knowing that the results would be broadcasted for all to see.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Has to be bullshit. Seems like a lot of blacks want to make it out like all american whites are secretly 5%+ black but it's pure fantasy. How could you not realize your dad is 30% black? Not likely.

[Proctor]

He should do a test with 23andme on his own time. The results may come out a bit different.

[Insuperable]

Purposely faked results

[Proctor]

Purposely faked results

That's why I'm saying he should do a test on his own time, he could show the public his results as well, and if he proves the TV station wrong, we'll know they purposely manipulated the results.

[Insuperable]

That's why I'm saying he should do a test on his own time, he could show the public his results as well, and if he proves the TV station wrong, we'll know they purposely manipulated the results.

Indeed, it would be very interesting to see this. If they said 2.5% we might even believe this, but 14% is a joke.

[Virtuous]

and so? Does this prove that National Socialism is wrong? Does this prove that race diluting, multiculturalism and multiracialism is a good thing? It's beyond me how people keep on ignoring statistics, news and historical facts. Undermine the homogenity, the values, the culture of a host Nation and you finally obtain a mass of easily manipulated people, without identity, mere globalist workforce - such as in this case the United States. Media keeps on fooling the people, but the racial social divide and competition is always there. The people that take the best advantages over such a divided Nationless State, are the same old tribe of crooks.

[Chrissi]

This.

At 14% SSA, unless it is dispersed evenly on both sides of the family, it means one of his parents is a quadroon. Surely if that is true he would know. I was surprised my own SSA admixture (or rather, my mother's) isn't higher considering my mother has personally met relatives on her Cape Verdean side who look clearly admixed.. at 14% there's no way you'd be oblivious to it.

Completely agree. 14 % would be very much and he must have noticed in the family tree. Plus having such strong radical views without knowing your own history would be strange. Let's break it down. A octoroon is about 1/8 SSA which means 12,5 %. With 14 % he'd be even more SSA than an Octoroon which would be impossible to miss. Someone in his family would show admixture and I believe someone with more % than Octoroon or Octoroon would definitly show up in his phenotype. I figure there has been a mistake or the show is biased. Looks like it.
Here an example of an Octoroon:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsgmkhijru1qd382lo1_1280.jpg

[armenianbodyhair]

I highly doubt those results.

[papa diddy pop]

That doesn't surprise me,niggers are fucking racist .

[Styrian Mujo]

Is that the photo of him in the link? If so than I have to conclude im around 30% black lol

[Sikeliot]

Completely agree. 14 % would be very much and he must have noticed in the family tree. Plus having such strong radical views without knowing your own history would be strange. Let's break it down. A octoroon is about 1/8 SSA which means 12,5 %. With 14 % he'd be even more SSA than an Octoroon which would be impossible to miss. Someone in his family would show admixture and I believe someone with more % than Octoroon or Octoroon would definitly show up in his phenotype. I figure there has been a mistake or the show is biased. Looks like it.


My great grandfather was probably a similar amount SSA. And although he looks off-white, you can tell he is mixed.

http://i42.tinypic.com/2h3r6yu.jpg

[mr. logan]

He made a cheap decision. Though he has mixed traits, maybe semitic. This may have been all some White Supremacist media trap show and the guy a fake that may fade away.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Probably the guy who founded a racist town (lol) is an actor in the first place. All these "reality" shows are staged to some degree.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Either it was fabricated in order to prove a point, or he has recent African American ancestry.. but at 14% he should surely have some relatives who look admixed.. my mother has 3-4% SSA and even I can point to relatives in family photos from 1900 that look a bit mixed.

I agree. probably was fabricated in order to prove a point.

[Ibericus]

These DNa tests on tv shows are quite fishy..

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

I think the results are fake, personally. If he really knew he was part SSA, which at 14% it'd be impossible not to, he would not have agreed to the DNA test knowing that the results would be broadcasted for all to see.

It's probably like you have said it was maybe fabricated in order to prove a point. Just read the title "Talk show host delivers DNA test results to white supremacist town founder"

I smell some hidden agenda behind these DNA tests...some hidden agenda about these DNA test on tv Mostly towards whites.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

These DNa tests on tv shows are quite fishy..

I agree.

[Sippola]

So, what is the point they are trying to prove?

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

So, what is the point they are trying to prove?

I think I know where they trying to go with this and knowing who controls the media and tv shows etc.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

So, what is the point they are trying to prove?

White america is secretly 2-5% black, if not more. Lawls

[Sikeliot]

So, what is the point they are trying to prove?

That race doesn't exist because even white supremacist southerners are mixed.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

That race doesn't exist because even white supremacist southerners are mixed.

Bingo
http://pocketnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/you-nailed-it.jpg

[Jackson]

Has to be bullshit. Seems like a lot of blacks want to make it out like all american whites are secretly 5%+ black but it's pure fantasy. How could you not realize your dad is 30% black? Not likely.

That's a fair point. White Americans do sometimes have small amounts of African, but pretty much all African Americans have European blood too, and generally average white Americans may have at most a couple of percent, but African Americans are often up to a quarter European perhaps without realizing it. 14% is unusually high, if it is real.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Has to be bullshit. Seems like a lot of blacks want to make it out like all american whites are secretly 5%+ black but it's pure fantasy. How could you not realize your dad is 30% black? Not likely.

Yes, to me many of these tv DNA test results smell like bullshit to me. and many times have some Hidden agenda going with them, are kinda like Ibericus said=Fishy.

[Smeagol]

That's a fair point. White Americans do sometimes have small amounts of African,

Only about 5% of White Americans, as I've demonstrated in some other threads.

[Methusalem]

This can't be real. The guy looks like a comedian. Very funny appearance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0PKXdo0YSo

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Setting up fake stuff is something I highly disapprove of. You can't really tell what's reality on TV any more. Even most of the "live from baghdad" crap from the first gulf war was completely faked. People are going to grow up thinking amish mafia is serious business, not to be messed with.

[Ibericus]

So, what is the point they are trying to prove?
They were trying to humiliate him and white-nationalism in general. But accroding to 23andme statistics (serious DNA test company) only 0.1% of white-americans would have more than 5% SSA (let alone 14% ), so that makes it quite improbable :

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2013/11/white-supremacist-part-black/#.UoKE4eJGbIM

[Manifest Destiny]

So, what is the point they are trying to prove?

If the results are faked, they're likely doing it to discredit him and discourage anyone who might be considering moving to his town in North Dakota.

[Vesuvian Sky]

Lol! Well, where 23andME fails I guess we can always resolve by resorting back to the old school Coonian classifications. So what ya'll think? Any discernable SSA here?:

http://wpmedia.news.nationalpost.com/2013/08/screen-shot-2013-08-27-at-12-33-24-pm-2.jpg?w=620

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/08/article-2493491-194B663A00000578-295_634x449.jpg

I myself detect a tad of Colonel Redenbacherid:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SRnNgNfHXNA/TxXkWWeDypI/AAAAAAAAETM/23Z_dY3a1jA/s1600/orville-redenbacher-logo.jpg

[Methusalem]

They were trying to humiliate him and white-nationalism in general. But accroding to 23andme statistics (serious DNA test company) only 0.1% of white-americans would have more than 5% SSA (let alone 14% ), so that makes it quite improbable :

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2013/11/white-supremacist-part-black/#.UoKE4eJGbIM

23andme has like a bottle neck function. Only a certain selective part of society test themselves. I think most 'white' Americans with SSA ancestry come from rural areas in Southern part of USA with low educational and socio-economic background and hence are less likely to do a genetic test.

[Methusalem]

Lol! Well, where 23andME fails I guess we can always resolve by resorting back to the old school Coonian classifications. So what ya'll think? Any discernable SSA here?:

http://wpmedia.news.nationalpost.com/2013/08/screen-shot-2013-08-27-at-12-33-24-pm-2.jpg?w=620

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/08/article-2493491-194B663A00000578-295_634x449.jpg


Nothing non-European visible. Well you could interpret anything into his phenotype.

[Vesuvian Sky]

Nothing non-European visible. Well you could interpret anything into his phenotype.

Indeed, hence the Redenbacher-id.:D

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Didn't heard about this guy before, but i found interesting when a supremacist finds truth on TV show about his gene pool. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcPQMZ__09g

PS. Muricans' better do DNA test before you criticize blacks. :p :D

[The Illyrian Warrior]

BUMP.

[KidMulat]

14% can't be statistical noise

[Elsa]

Two threads on the same subject merged.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Two threads on the same subject merged.

Well didn't know about it Seraphina, i found interesting so I posted without looking on other threads if it existed or not. :)

[Elsa]

Well didn't know about it Seraphina, i found interesting so I posted without looking on other threads if it existed or not. :)

It's okay, no problem. :)

[The Illyrian Warrior]

It's okay, no problem. :)

:kiss: no homo ;)

[MINARDOWICZ]

Obviously not real... 2% would have worked better ;).

[Proctor]

14% can't be statistical noise

That's true, but I think the results he was told were flawed by people with an agenda.

[KidMulat]

So I admit the results very well could be faked but also all you guys have this belief that you can tell that someone is 14% white, you really can't everytime.

Also especially in the south people who have admixed looks in white communities will call themselves black irish/black Dutch/indian so I wouldn't be surprised if there are people who call themselves white, have family visibly admixed and then go around expounding WN rhetoric.

[Smeagol]

So I admit the results very well could be faked but also all you guys have this belief that you can tell that someone is 14% white, you really can't everytime.

Also especially in the south people who have admixed looks in white communities will call themselves black irish/black Dutch/indian so I wouldn't be surprised if there are people who call themselves white, have family visibly admixed and then go around expounding WN rhetoric.

If he really had 14% admixture, than one of his parents, or at least grandparents would have looked admixed. No way he wouldn't have known about it. I think the results are faked.

[KidMulat]

If he really had 14% admixture, than one of his parents, or at least grandparents would have looked admixed. No way he wouldn't have known about it. I think the results are faked.

Not true, the selective pressure of white appearing partners (which to be honest has been going on for centuries now) can easily create "octoroon" communities that in all appearances are white with any throwbacks being called "Indian" or "black Dutch".

[Smeagol]

Not true, the selective pressure of white appearing partners (which to be honest has been going on for centuries now) can easily create "octoroon" communities that in all appearances are white with any throwbacks being called "Indian" or "black Dutch".

Well then he'd know if he bothered to research his family history I guess. Still, I think the results are faked, and apparently he's getting another test.

[KidMulat]

Well then he'd know if he bothered to research his family history I guess. Still, I think the results are faked, and apparently he's getting another test.

When has known African ancestry stopped anyone from being anti-black; case in point SK

[Smeagol]

When has known African ancestry stopped anyone from being anti-black; case in point SK

Well he wouldn't agree to the DNA test if he had any known black ancestry. Either way, he's taking another one, so we'll see. Also, I don't think SK is anti-black, but I don't want to go off topic.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Not true, the selective pressure of white appearing partners (which to be honest has been going on for centuries now) can easily create "octoroon" communities that in all appearances are white with any throwbacks being called "Indian" or "black Dutch".

Could have been "coulored" who would score as SSA but are not very dark, as well. That seems more likely, if he really didn't know.

Looks more like it is real, now. Think maybe he knew and was trying to cover it up, though, but who knows.

[Atlantic Islander]

This is why some TA members are too afraid to get tested (afraid of what they'll find out), they can't use the price as an excuse anymore though; 23andme is only 99 dollars.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

This is why some TA members are too afraid to get tested, can't use the price as an excuse anymore though 23andme is only 99 dollars.

I don't think I could turn out black but it would be pretty funny/disturbing if I turned out 0% Irish or something.

[Also]

This is why some TA members are too afraid to get tested (afraid of what they'll find out), they can't use the price as an excuse anymore though; 23andme is only 99 dollars.

Lady, Neo-Nazi New worlders = octoroons or hidden jews.

http://www.totalfascism.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/frank-collin-frank-cohen.jpg

[Smeagol]

Lady, Neo-Nazi New worlders = octoroons or hidden jews.

http://www.totalfascism.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/frank-collin-frank-cohen.jpg

Not usually, but sometimes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Burros

[Also]

Not usually, but sometimes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Burros

The guy I posted is Frak Collin, born "Francis Cohen", he even founded a Nazi Party. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Collin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America

[Smeagol]

The guy I posted is Frak Collin, born "Francis Cohen", he even founded a Nazi Party. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Collin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America

I know about him.

[Oneeye]

Well that was fast:




Craig Paul Cobb (born on October 9, 1951) is an American anti-semitic white supremacist activist, despite being 14% African-American,[2]



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Cobb



Bravo wikipedia, no agenda here at all....

[Sikeliot]

Well he wouldn't agree to the DNA test if he had any known black ancestry. Either way, he's taking another one, so we'll see. Also, I don't think SK is anti-black, but I don't want to go off topic.

My mother agreed to the DNA test because she didn't think she'd have much African ancestry -- I expected her to have more than she ended up getting. 23andme severely underestimates her African admixture though, which on any other calculator is always 2-3%. I was expecting her to have maybe 10%.

I think with another DNA test, he will not get any African American at all.

[Stanley]

Evidently this dude's great-grandfather was named Statistical Noise. Funny name even for a black guy.

Fully agreed on this being fake. Most everything on TV—including stuff that's supposed to be real—is.

[Atlantic Islander]

Lady, Neo-Nazi New worlders = octoroons or hidden jews.

[Also]

They are going to blame the jewish media since the show is runned by Maury Povich, a jew. This Trisha's show seems to have pretty much the same tabloid structure of the old Maury's shows, except they did paternity tests.

The guy shouldn't have been there in the first place wheter or not he has black blood.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

This tv DNA test supposed "results" Look faker than Pamela Anderson boobs And like the George Lopez supposed "results" look phonier than a 3 dollar bill.


"In 2009, the results of a DNA test read by Mariah Carey on Lopez Tonight revealed Lopez to be of 55% European, 32% Native American, 9% East Asian, and 4% African descent.[21] However, the test's accuracy is disputed by several genealogists."


I rest my case.

[Also]

Cobb's is gonna get tested with other companies, if he has no or very little black blood it'll come out soon and we'll know. Though even so I doubt it'll receive the same attention by the media, which is the tactic.

[Manifest Destiny]

So I admit the results very well could be faked but also all you guys have this belief that you can tell that someone is 14% white, you really can't everytime.

Also especially in the south people who have admixed looks in white communities will call themselves black irish/black Dutch/indian so I wouldn't be surprised if there are people who call themselves white, have family visibly admixed and then go around expounding WN rhetoric.

It's certainly possible that one if his parents is essentially 1/3 black. I just don't know if it's more or less likely than falsified test results. I really wouldn't be surprised either way.

[Sikeliot]

I just can't imagine, if he knows his family, that if he is 14% black he would not be able to see it in some family member ESPECIALLY if he is a white supremacist.

[KidMulat]

I just can't imagine, if he knows his family, that if he is 14% black he would not be able to see it in some family member ESPECIALLY if he is a white supremacist.

There are literally dozens of families who are admixed and for generations looked white with few or any throwbacks, why is it so hard to believe?!

[Manifest Destiny]

Cobb's is gonna get tested with other companies, if he has no or very little black blood it'll come out soon and we'll know. Though even so I doubt it'll receive the same attention by the media, which is the tactic.

I'm sure that is the tactic. But, from Cobb's standpoint, the people he really cares about at this point (other White Nationalists) will find out if the original test results were accurate or not.

[Loki]

The guy looks rather white, but I guess it's possible.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

There are literally dozens of families who are admixed and for generations looked white with few or any throwbacks, why is it so hard to believe?!

It seems you ignore what I have posted here, which I think it proves what I, Sikeliot and others here believe.

[Manifest Destiny]

There are literally dozens of families who are admixed and for generations looked white with few or any throwbacks, why is it so hard to believe?!

Because it would only be a couple of generations in the past for his family member to be over half black. Three generations back and you're basically talking straight up African-American. That sort of thing tends to be noticeable.

[KidMulat]

It seems you ignore what I have posted here, which I think it proves what I, Sikeliot and others here believe.

No you're merely an idiot who did not read that it very well can be fake; but that he or his potentially admixed ancestors don't have to look an particular way to be of mixed ancestry is something to recognize.

[KidMulat]

Because it would only be a couple of generations in the past for his family member to be over half black. Three generations back and you're basically talking straight up African-American. That sort of thing tends to be noticeable.

There are literally communities with stable octoroon levels of black ancestry; its the multigenerational populations that have assimilated that everyone seems to ignore.

[Manifest Destiny]

There are literally communities with stable octoroon levels of black ancestry; its the multigenerational populations that have assimilated that everyone seems to ignore.

Where are these communities? Is Cobb from one of them?

[Sikeliot]

There are literally communities with stable octoroon levels of black ancestry; its the multigenerational populations that have assimilated that everyone seems to ignore.

Even at 14% black you start to look slightly "off" European though, no?

[KidMulat]

Where are these communities? Is Cobb from one of them?

Many of the "triracial" isolate groups where largely European descended mulattos spread out throughout the East Coast and south.

Again I will state again, I don't think he is one of them (That show is all about shock) am stating however he or someone who looks like him could very well be, you can't write out admixture merely because it might not show up even after a few generations.

[KidMulat]

Even at 14% black you start to look slightly "off" European though, no?

Not if you live in a community or society that creates artificial standards of beauty or partner selection favoring over all whiter appearances.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

No you're merely an idiot who did not read that it very well can be fake; but that he or his potentially admixed ancestors don't have to look an particular way to be of mixed ancestry is something to recognize.

Hey take it easy when talk to me, okay? The black blood is very strong with just a bit of black it is enough to make someone look mixed with Black. Its a well known fact. This being said at 14% black which is kinda high, would have slightly show on him already. And be visible from a mile away.

[KidMulat]

Hey take it easy when talk to me, okay? The black blood is very strong with just a bit of black it is enough to make someone look mixed with Black. Its a well known fact. This being said at 14% black which is kinda high, would have slightly show on him already. And be visible from a mile away.

All mixed race ancestry can appear in any person, it merely becomes a genetic dice game.

It is not a "well known fact" its a whole bunch of people on the Internet with invented nomenclature and mind sets set on the myth of "very strong" black blood.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

All mixed race ancestry can appear in any person, it merely becomes a genetic dice game.

It is not a "well known fact" its a whole bunch of people on the Internet with invented nomenclature and mind sets set on the myth of "very strong" black blood.

Of course All mixed race ancestry appear in any person But It's well known that the Black blood is stronger then any mix. and from what I've seen with people who have enough negro which 14% is kinda high enough, that It would have to be visible. So I think it would be safe to say that the black African trait is more dominant. And Its a fact like the huge meatballs I have hanging between my legs.

[KidMulat]

Of course All mixed race ancestry appear in any person But It's well known that the Black blood is stronger then any mix. and from what I've seen with people who have enough negro which 14% is kinda high enough, that It would have to be visible. So I think it would be safe to say that the black African trait is more dominant. And Its a fact like the huge meatballs I have hanging between my legs.

Black blood is not "stronger" nor is it more "dominant"; American/Western notions and social constructs of racial identification are narrow for who we call white people.

[mr. logan]

Only weak blood whites mix with negroids, so its traits replace the weaker white mixer ones, then it looks more visible in mixed breeds.

[Friends of Oliver Society]

The man must be starving for media attention to allow himself to be set up like this. Obvious is obvious. If you go on one of these shows and they don't like you, they're going to fuck with you. It's obvious why they won't reveal which company they used.

[Loki]

The man must be starving for media attention to allow himself to be set up like this. Obvious is obvious. If you go on one of these shows and they don't like you, they're going to fuck with you. It's obvious why they won't reveal which company they used.

If I were him I'd get a second opinion anyway.

[Friends of Oliver Society]

If I were him I'd get a second opinion anyway.

It doesn't matter now to the public. The media is not going to give him a platform to challenge those results if (and this is almost a given) the results were flawed. He fucked himself. He should have told them which company he wanted to be tested by after doing some research or be tested by more than one. Now, when his results come back 100% European (highly likely), he has only youtube to reveal it and who is going to look at it compared to all the people the media got to laugh at him over this? He'll be old news and forgotten by 99%; they'll just vaguely remember how a White racist "got his just dessert." The show's agenda wins because his stupidity or desire for 15 minutes of fame or both let them win.

[Friends of Oliver Society]

Black blood is not "stronger" nor is it more "dominant"; American/Western notions and social constructs of racial identification are narrow for who we call white people.

Right... as we all know mixed race children skin color doesn't normally lean towards the Black father who is likely to take off rather than the White mother left with the embarrassment of being seen as untouchable by most White men.

[KidMulat]

Right... as we all know mixed race children skin color doesn't normally lean towards the Black father who is likely to take off rather than the White mother left with the embarrassment of being seen as untouchable by most White men.

You're just reaching for anything aren't you lol

[Friends of Oliver Society]

You're just reaching for anything aren't you lol

That negates what I said; good work. The reality is mixed Black children almost always have a skin tone closer to that of the Black parent. The only time the kid comes out with a skin tone closer to the White parent is when the Black parent is heavily mixed.

[KidMulat]

That negates what I said; good work. The reality is mixed Black children almost always have a skin tone closer to that of the Black parent. The only time the kid comes out with a skin tone closer to the White parent is when the Black parent is heavily mixed.

People say Obama looks black, compared with Luo people he looks white. Our perceptions of White and Black are not put at equal footing, what is white is narrower in definition than what is considered black (one can see this on this very forum)

[Friends of Oliver Society]

People say Obama looks black, compared with Luo people he looks white.

He's a mix of both; that is the reality of it. His skin tone, however, leans towards his father more than his mother.


Our perceptions of White and Black are not put at equal footing, what is white is narrower in definition than what is considered black (one can see this on this very forum)

Perception isn't reality. See above for an example of that fact.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

KidMulat smell me like a bloody Zionist jew with a Agenda.

http://archive.adl.org/Anti_semitism/arab/cartoons/8-3-02-Al-Ahram-Al-Arabi_400.jpg
http://firstlightforum.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/nosferatu11.jpg?w=590

[Anglojew]

People say Obama looks black, compared with Luo people he looks white. Our perceptions of White and Black are not put at equal footing, what is white is narrower in definition than what is considered black (one can see this on this very forum)

He doesn't look white to anyone. He looks mixed-race.

[KidMulat]

KidMulat smell me like a bloody Zionist jew with a Agenda.

http://archive.adl.org/Anti_semitism/arab/cartoons/8-3-02-Al-Ahram-Al-Arabi_400.jpg
http://firstlightforum.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/nosferatu11.jpg?w=590
You do realize I am the sole anti-Zionist Jew here and the only Jew actively critiquing the Israeli government right?

[KidMulat]

He doesn't look white to anyone. He looks mixed-race.

Nope; to many Luo, Kenyans and Africans he does not look like them. Its a matter of conditioning.

[Anglojew]

You do realize I am the sole anti-Zionist Jew here and the only Jew actively critiquing the Israeli government right?

Nothing to be proud of.

The left probably is busy converting anti-zionists to Judaism as some sort of anti-Israel plot.

[Anglojew]

Nope; to many Luo, Kenyans and Africans he does not look like them. Its a matter of conditioning.

because he's mixed-race.

He does look like this North-African actor that was cast as Satan;

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/thumbnail_570x321/2013/03/the_bible_satan_barack_obama.jpg

[Mortimer]

could be fabricated i guess

[Anglojew]

I'd like to see an independent genetic test done.

It's like when Larry David (born to typically Eastern European Jewish Parents) was told he was part Native American;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_qFVE9BFJM

Probably because he's Q haplogroup or something ridiculous.

[KidMulat]

because he's mixed-race.

He does look like this North-African actor that was cast as Satan;

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/thumbnail_570x321/2013/03/the_bible_satan_barack_obama.jpg

Yes I know he is mixed race that is why I brought him up; to the Nilotic Luo though he does not look Luo, does not follow or speak Luo culture/tradition and is in most ways like his white and American counterparts.

[YeshAtid]

Yes I know he is mixed race that is why I brought him up; to the Nilotic Luo though he does not look Luo, does not follow or speak Luo culture/tradition and is in most ways like his white and American counterparts.

I know ethnicity has a multi faceted meaning, but you don't count yourself as ethnically Jewish, do you?

[Anglojew]

Yes I know he is mixed race that is why I brought him up; to the Nilotic Luo though he does not look Luo, does not follow or speak Luo culture/tradition and is in most ways like his white and American counterparts.

He's basically Spock...forever destined to be part-human and part-Vulcan but never understanding either people entirely nor accepted by either people entirely.

[Drawing-slim]

I'd like to see an independent genetic test done.

It's like when Larry David (born to typically Eastern European Jewish Parents) was told he was part Native American;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_qFVE9BFJMthat's really interesting. It can't possibly be true for Larry David to be 37% Native American. Absolutely hard to believe.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

that's really interesting. It can't possibly be true for Larry David to be 37% Native American. Absolutely hard to believe.

"In 2009, the results of a DNA test read by Mariah Carey on Lopez Tonight revealed Lopez to be of 55% European, 32% Native American, 9% East Asian, and 4% African descent.[21] However, the test's accuracy is disputed by several genealogists."

[KidMulat]

He's basically Spock...forever destined to be part-human and part-Vulcan but never understanding either people entirely nor accepted by either people entirely.

Not true, he is largely accepted by black Americans and sees himself as such; the tragic mulatto archetype is beyond old.

[KidMulat]

I know ethnicity has a multi faceted meaning, but you don't count yourself as ethnically Jewish, do you?

Ofcourse not, I am unaware of any Jewish ancestors in my lineage.

[YeshAtid]

Ofcourse not, I am unaware of any Jewish ancestors in my lineage.

Though you yourself are as Jewish as Abraham. I was wondering as ethnicity also refers to a shared cultural heritage.

[BarcelonaAtlantis]

Though you yourself are as Jewish as Abraham. I was wondering as ethnicity also refers to a shared cultural heritage.

Abraham wasnt jewish but a judahite and you know it you stinking and inferior jew.

[Anglojew]

Not true, he is largely accepted by black Americans and sees himself as such; the tragic mulatto archetype is beyond old.

Only because of his propaganda campaign. He has little in common with the average African-American. Their support is largely racist (eg supporting him due to his skin colour) when the fact is he has almost nothing in common with them. His family did not experience the horrors of Slavery, did not live in ghettos, did not experience the civil right's movement etc. In fact his mother comes from a very white elite family related to many of the other Presidents and his father from an elite Kenyan family working for the Kenyan Goverment.

[Anglojew]

Abraham wasnt jewish but a judahite and you know it you stinking and inferior jew.

What is a Judahite?

How could he be a Judah-anything when the tribe of Judah hadn't been founded yet?

http://visualunit.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/abraham_tree.jpg

[Stormer99]

I'd like to see an independent genetic test done.

It's like when Larry David (born to typically Eastern European Jewish Parents) was told he was part Native American;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_qFVE9BFJM

Probably because he's Q haplogroup or something ridiculous.

They may have used the AncestrybyDNA test. It only uses 176 markers in contrast to the million markers 23andme uses.

[KidMulat]

Only because of his propaganda campaign. He has little in common with the average African-American. Their support is largely racist (eg supporting him due to his skin colour) when the fact is he has almost nothing in common with them. His family did not experience the horrors of Slavery, did not live in ghettos, did not experience the civil right's movement etc. In fact his mother comes from a very white elite family related to many of the other Presidents and his father from an elite Kenyan family working for the Kenyan Goverment.

He did work in Harvard with the African American community, moved to a African American neighborhood, married a African American Wife, and kept the African American communities interests in mind.

One can not essentialize the African American experience, its a matter of self-declaration and community acceptance of said identification.

[Manifest Destiny]

Many of the "triracial" isolate groups where largely European descended mulattos spread out throughout the East Coast and south.

Again I will state again, I don't think he is one of them (That show is all about shock) am stating however he or someone who looks like him could very well be, you can't write out admixture merely because it might not show up even after a few generations.

Fair enough.

I also think it's possible that the results are accurate, but more likely that they decided to have fun at Cobb's expense. I wonder if he'll sue if the results are proved to be false? That would be lulz.

[Jackson]

Only about 5% of White Americans, as I've demonstrated in some other threads.

5% = Sometimes

[Jackson]

Cobbs has tested with 23&me, i found his profile on there - but no public information. He was going to tell them about it but he got cut off by the host.

[Sikeliot]

Cobbs has tested with 23&me, i found his profile on there - but no public information. He was going to tell them about it but he got cut off by the host.

He was probably going to tell them that the results they gave him were fake.

And I think they were.

[Jackson]

He was probably going to tell them that the results they gave him were fake.

And I think they were.

I too have my suspicions. I wanted to check 23&me to see if his profile was public.

I don't know either way, but watching the program was difficult, because while i don't like Craig Cobb's sort that much, the hosts and audience are just as bad, and more annoying to boot.

[Sikeliot]

I don't like people like him either, but I don't agree with academic dishonesty.

A better example of a racist finding out he or she is part black, was my aunt on my mom's side. She was looking through family pictures and wondered why my grandmother's cousins are "black". Her exact words -- "What are these ugly black children's photos doing with our family pics?"

I was like.. that IS our family. And she denied it, and still insists it's not true.

[Manifest Destiny]

I too have my suspicions. I wanted to check 23&me to see if his profile was public.

I don't know either way, but watching the program was difficult, because while i don't like Craig Cobb's sort that much, the hosts and audience are just as bad, and more annoying to boot.

I don't have much of an opinion on Cobb one way or the other, but I think it would be funny if it was true. But it would piss me off if they were lying just to put him in his place. I hate dishonesty.

[Jackson]

I don't have much of an opinion on Cobb one way or the other, but I think it would be funny if it was true. But it would piss me off if they were lying just to put him in his place. I hate dishonesty.

Same, if it turns out to be true i will continue to find it amusing, if not i will continue regard those other sorts with increased hostility.

If he bought an area of land for him and his chums and went about it there without disturbing residents already there, i wouldn't really care. But it seems the local community is not all that happy.

[Manifest Destiny]

Same, if it turns out to be true i will continue to find it amusing, if not i will continue regard those other sorts with increased hostility.

If he bought an area of land for him and his chums and went about it there without disturbing residents already there, i wouldn't really care. But it seems the local community is not all that happy.

The neighbors aren't happy because they dislike his views. As far as I can tell, he hasn't actually done anything to them. If it was a bunch of liberals moving to a conservative town and being harassed by their neighbors, it would be a top news story. Because he's a racist, the media doesn't care about political harassment.

[Peikko]

Frequency of Continent-Specific mtDNA Haplotypes in the Brazilian mtDNA Pool
Frequency
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Continental Fraction Brazil Northern Northeastern Southeastern Southern
Native American .33 .54 .22 .33a .22
African .28 .15 .44 .34 .12
European .39 .31 .34 .31 .66

aExcludes the single lineage of confirmed Asian ancestry.
Am J Hum Genet. 2000 August; 67(2): 444–461.
Published online 2000 June 28.
Copyright © 2000 by The American Society of Human Genetics. All rights reserved.


We examined individuals from four different regions in Brazil (fig. 1), in an attempt to establish a portrait of the mtDNA variation throughout the country and to determine the relative matrilineal contributions of Europeans, Amerindians/Asians, and Africans to present-day white Brazilians. The total sample revealed as much as 33% Amerindian and 28% African contribution to the total mtDNA pool. In fact, these values are probably minimum percentages, because, since our study group is primarily composed of middle- and upper-middle-class Brazilians, a bias toward a higher contribution of European mtDNA is to be expected.

[Graham]

I don't think I could turn out black but it would be pretty funny/disturbing if I turned out 0% Irish or something.

You sir are a full blooded Englishman.

Noooooooooo!

[Manifest Destiny]

You sir are a full blooded Englishman.

Noooooooooo!

I've never taken a DNA test, but my parents recently did them just for fun. Neither of them were part black, but both had a little over two percent Neanderthal DNA. I have no idea if that's high or low, but I thought it was interesting.

[Loki]

I've never taken a DNA test, but my parents recently did them just for fun. Neither of them were part black, but both had a little over two percent Neanderthal DNA. I have no idea if that's high or low, but I thought it was interesting.

Most Europeans have around 2 to 3 percent Neanderthal genes, that's normal.

[Methusalem]

That negates what I said; good work. The reality is mixed Black children almost always have a skin tone closer to that of the Black parent. The only time the kid comes out with a skin tone closer to the White parent is when the Black parent is heavily mixed.

That is your subjective opinion. IMO they look in terms of phenotype like an intermediate between their parents.

[SilverKnight]

Typical dumb low IQ Nutzis :laugh:






This.

At 14% SSA, unless it is dispersed evenly on both sides of the family, it means one of his parents is a quadroon. Surely if that is true he would know. I was surprised my own SSA admixture (or rather, my mother's) isn't higher considering my mother has personally met relatives on her Cape Verdean side who look clearly admixed.. at 14% there's no way you'd be oblivious to it.


It's most likely dispersed.

[SilverKnight]

:bowlol::bowlol::bowlol::bowlol::bowlol:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm9LZiKuOLI

[Prisoner Of Ice]

I don't like people like him either, but I don't agree with academic dishonesty.

A better example of a racist finding out he or she is part black, was my aunt on my mom's side. She was looking through family pictures and wondered why my grandmother's cousins are "black". Her exact words -- "What are these ugly black children's photos doing with our family pics?"

I was like.. that IS our family. And she denied it, and still insists it's not true.
Pretty funny, though in reality sad.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

You sir are a full blooded Englishman.

Noooooooooo!

:lol:

[Prisoner Of Ice]

That is your subjective opinion. IMO they look in terms of phenotype like an intermediate between their parents.

Looking at the pics, they are actually fairly norwegian looking, which surprised me.

[Friends of Oliver Society]

That is your subjective opinion. IMO they look in terms of phenotype like an intermediate between their parents.

Having a much darker skin tone than the White parent isn't my subjective opinion. The only time I've seen mixed children come out White is when the Black parent is significantly mixed. For example, at ABF there was a thread on White/horner miixes. On occasion they came out looking like the White parent. Looking at them you wouldn't have a clue about their African ancesty.

[Methusalem]

Having a much darker skin tone than the White parent isn't my subjective opinion. The only time I've mixed children come out White is when the Black parents is significantly mixed. For example, at ABF there was a thread on White/horner miixes. On occasion they came out looking like the White parent. Looking at them you wouldn't have a clue about their African ancesty.

Well but they are also lighter than their ssa parent. As i said pure westafrican plus Euro looks intermediate regarding all phenotypical features. Bu that's just my subjective opinion. I agree on horner/euro mixes. I know an half ethio half greek and he looks fully greek.

[Friends of Oliver Society]

Well but they are also lighter than their ssa parent. As i said pure westafrican plus Euro looks intermediate regarding all phenotypical features. Bu that's just my subjective opinion.

What does it matter if they're lighter than the SSA parent if the child has a skin tone closer to the SSA parent than the White one? It's a White grandpa who gets the police called for suspicion of kidnapping a "Black child" not a Black grandparent with the same child.

[Sikeliot]

I know an half ethio half greek and he looks fully greek.

I've seen full Ethiopians who look like a black Greek, facially.

[Methusalem]

What does it matter if they're lighter than the SSA parent if the child has a skin tone closer to the SSA parent than the White one?

Who says this? You? The skintone is IMO an intermediate and not closer to the father or the mother. Do you have any studies which support your claim? Or is it just your subjective opinion which you are trying to state again as a fact?


It's a White grandpa who gets the police called for suspicion of kidnapping a "Black child" not a Black grandparent with the same child.

And again as always your are projecting your own americancentric socially constructed world view on all humans. In Nigeria a Mullato child would be seen as a 'white' child.