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GrebluBro
11-11-2013, 11:37 PM
Guys,

I used very strict estimation but I needn't expect Western European look.
I have gone through 100s of pictures of these countries in various fields and I read about genetic background test surveys.

My estimation for roughly (needn't be 100% pure) European looking population in this countries:

I give strict estimations here

Brazil: 25%
Argentina: 67% (another 3% from Christian Levant)
Colombia: 8%
Venezuela: 10%
Uruguay: 80%


Please vote your opinion

Brighton
11-11-2013, 11:47 PM
Brazil: 30%
Argentina: 60%
Colombia: 15%
Venezuela: 12%
Uruguay: 75%

Brighton
11-11-2013, 11:47 PM
Why not include my beloved Chile? :(

GrebluBro
11-11-2013, 11:52 PM
Why not include my beloved Chile? :(

Sorry buddy there were already too many countries. May be next time :)

Btw, I found that 75% of Chileans are white-skinned but only 20% or 3 Million is European looking.

You agree?

Brighton
11-11-2013, 11:59 PM
Sorry buddy there were already too many countries. May be next time :)

Btw, I found that 75% of Chileans are white-skinned but 20% or 3 Million is European looking.

You agree?
Umm I would rather say that 70% are white-skinned and 30% European looking.

Ps: The skin thing is because Chilean Natives (Mapuche) lived in Southern Chile where it's always rainy and snowy.. so they're quite lighter than most Natives from other countries.

Smaug
11-12-2013, 12:16 AM
Brazil 35%.

GrebluBro
11-12-2013, 12:21 AM
Umm I would rather say that 70% are white-skinned and 30% European looking.

Ps: The skin thing is because Chilean Natives (Mapuche) lived in Southern Chile where it's always rainy and snowy.. so they're quite lighter than most Natives from other countries.

Cool.

I also found estimations for Mexico, Peru, Cuba, Paraguay.

Mexico => 6% or 7M European looking
Peru => 3M white-skinned but only 1M European looking (almost all in Lima)
Paraguay => 4M white-skinned but only 0.7M or 10% European looking
Cuba => 4M white-skinned but only 1M or 10% European looking

Let me know your estimations.

Note: I spent too much time for each country's research in Latin America before concluding all those percentages.

Brighton
11-12-2013, 12:26 AM
Cool.

I also found estimations for Mexico, Peru, Cuba, Paraguay.

Mexico => 6% or 7M European looking
Peru => 3M white-skinned but only 1M European looking (almost all in Lima)
Paraguay => 4M white-skinned but only 0.7M or 10% European looking
Cuba => 4M white-skinned but only 1M or 10% European looking

Let me know your estimations.

Note: I spent too much time for each country's research before concluding these percentages.

They seem all fine to me, mate.

It's complicated to do the research for Latin American countries since in a lot of them the percentage of European looking people depends on the area and social class.

Incal
11-12-2013, 01:32 AM
I'd raise Colombia and Venezuela to the 25%-30% range.

GrebluBro
11-12-2013, 01:42 AM
That is huge exaggeration IMO.

Strong majority of white Colombians got visible Mestizo features.
Venezuela did receive some immigrants unlike Colombia (very little immigrants, all those white Colombians are colonial Spaniards) but Venezuela people are more mixed.

For Colombia, cities like Medellin got 35% European looking population and another 15% for Bogota; few more millions from other areas.
African and Indigenous people are highly segregated in Colombia.
Mixing happens mostly between Mestizos and Europeans.

There is no such segregation or European dominant major areas in Venezuela.
However, 10% sounds fine due to descendants from immigrants (yet not so much, even lesser than smallest LA nation Uruguay's immigrants) and colonial Spaniards

Carlito's Way
11-12-2013, 01:50 AM
Guys,

I used very strict estimation but I needn't expect Western European look.
I have gone through 100s of pictures of these countries in various fields and I read about genetic background test surveys.

My estimation for roughly (needn't be 100% pure) European looking population in this countries:

Brazil: 25%
Argentina: 67% (another 3% from Christian Levant)
Colombia: 8%
Venezuela: 10%
Uruguay: 80%


Please vote your opinion

i agree, maybe venezuela a little higher

Carlito's Way
11-12-2013, 01:52 AM
Cool.

I also found estimations for Mexico, Peru, Cuba, Paraguay.

Mexico => 6% or 7M European looking
Peru => 3M white-skinned but only 1M European looking (almost all in Lima)
Paraguay => 4M white-skinned but only 0.7M or 10% European looking
Cuba => 4M white-skinned but only 1M or 10% European looking

Let me know your estimations.

Note: I spent too much time for each country's research in Latin America before concluding all those percentages.

for mexico it would be like 15% european looking, but its hard to say cause i see many europeans here in this forum who look mestizo to me, like i would never guess them as white LOL

GrebluBro
11-12-2013, 09:41 AM
for mexico it would be like 15% european looking, but its hard to say cause i see many europeans here in this forum who look mestizo to me, like i would never guess them as white LOL

Europeans were just 1.5 million in 1920 [i.e 10% of Mexico population that time], but birth rate had been extremely high until 1980 and multiplied many times like in Brazil.
However, non-European multiplication is slightly ahead of them due to obvious reason that post-1980 Europeans became modern and birth rate started falling behind non-Europeans.

Total Mexicans multiplied 8 times in 9 decades (adding both US & Mexico) with Europeans multiplied 5 times (which is very high for advanced any ethnic group).
Post-1920 immigration was very low to Mexico and even those immigrants were temporary. Anyways they could contribute max 1 Million.
So total comes 8-8.5 Million with 1-1.5 million left for US
After removing European Mexicans in US, I am pretty sure just 7 Million Europeans live in Mexico i.e 6%

mr. logan
11-12-2013, 09:59 AM
We have those kaffirs segregated, except the ones who wear glasses :)

GrebluBro
11-12-2013, 10:02 AM
We have those kaffirs segregated, except the ones who wear glasses :)
Among Uruguay citizens, what is the common estimation for European looking (needn't be 100% pure EU) population percent?
80 or 75 or 85??

mr. logan
11-12-2013, 10:07 AM
Census puts it near 90 but it is more around 80 %.

Carlito's Way
11-12-2013, 10:10 AM
Europeans were just 1.5 million in 1920 [i.e 10% of Mexico population that time], but birth rate had been extremely high until 1980 and multiplied many times like in Brazil.
However, non-European multiplication is slightly ahead of them due to obvious reason that post-1980 Europeans became modern and birth rate started falling behind non-Europeans.

Total Mexicans multiplied 8 times in 9 decades (adding both US & Mexico) with Europeans multiplied 5 times (which is very high for advanced any ethnic group).
Post-1920 immigration was very low to Mexico and even those immigrants were temporary. Anyways they could contribute max 1 Million.
So total comes 8-8.5 Million with 1-1.5 million left for US
After removing European Mexicans in US, I am pretty sure just 7 Million Europeans live in Mexico i.e 6%

you are talking about european looking, not about full europeans, full europeans in all of latin america are a tiny minority
many harnizos can look full european just like castizos can too

also the mexican census isnt a good reference when they used the population of Mexico City to calculate how many whites, mestizos and native americans were in Mexico
there hasnt been a real census like there has in the USA lol

mexicans in those days were known to raise up the number of mestizos/natives and lower the number of whites in order to promote their mestizaje
again using the mexican census is inaccurate if you knew how the mexican system worked in those days

GrebluBro
11-12-2013, 10:11 AM
Census puts it near 90 but it is more around 80 %.
I closely follow demographic progress/details of Uruguay. 90% covered those mixed phenotype population with white-skin.
I estimated 80%.
Is it possible for European looking population to be as low as 75%?
or pretty much every Uruguayan agree with 80%?

Peyrol
11-12-2013, 10:13 AM
In order:

Uruguay 80-82%
Argetina 65%
Brazil 28-30%
Venezuela 20%
Colombia 12-15% (concentrated in some areas if i remember well....Baluarte?)

GrebluBro
11-12-2013, 10:19 AM
you are talking about european looking, not about full europeans, full europeans in all of latin america are a tiny minority
many harnizos can look full european just like castizos can too



Look here I am taking genes in the name of ancestries not genes literally.
For instance, 3 European grandparents 1 non-European grandparent make 75% European genes {of course test will say anything from 50-90% genes}.

To look European, European genes must be at least 85%. This necessity is true for 80% of European looking population, 15% would need at least 90% and remaining 5% would look European even with 70%. The reason is pretty clear, European genes are very recessive and it can dominate only ethnic-Indian (India/Pakistan) genes in some cases.

So Castizos cannot look clear-cut European at 95% cases. Here Castizos mean 3/4 European by ancestors not genes literally.
I am pretty sure about my estimation. 100s of people's ethic background would vouch for this.

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I agree with unreliability of Mexico census.
Anyways, no high-level estimations/surveys put European population more than 10% on average.

Non-European looking but white skinned [meaning 65-85% European] population would form 12% of Mexicans.

GrebluBro
11-12-2013, 10:24 AM
In order:

Uruguay 80-82%
Argetina 65%
Brazil 28-30%
Venezuela 20%
Colombia 12-15% (concentrated in some areas if i remember well....Baluarte?)

I absolutely agree with Brazil, Uruguay and Argentina (another 3% Christian Levant)

You seem to put 150% of real European Venezuela/Colombia population

Colombian two major metros/cities: Medellin got 35-40%, Bogota got 15-20% European looking population

mr. logan
11-12-2013, 10:51 AM
Yes.

Carlito's Way
11-12-2013, 11:35 AM
To look European, European genes must be at least 85%. This necessity is true for 80% of European looking population, 15% would need at least 90% and remaining 5% would look European even with 80%. The reason is pretty clear, European genes are very recessive and it can dominate only ethnic-Indian (India/Pakistan) genes in some cases.

So Castizos cannot look clear-cut European at 95% cases.
I am pretty sure about my estimation. 100s of people's ethic background would vouch for this.

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I agree with unreliability of Mexico census.
Anyways, no high-level estimations/surveys put European population more than 10% on average.

Non-European looking but white skinned [meaning 65-85% European] population would form 12% of Mexicans.

you are obviously very stupid, you dont need to be that european to look like one LOL you must be a complete moron
these people arent even castizo and look more european than what they show on their results
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?94328-Harnizos-en-23andme

i wish i could post pictures of my cousins who are only around 60% european and look very European LOL

his 23andme results
http://painrehab.net/uploads/2/8/4/1/2841442/9386336.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iTrWGY9.png



Castizo's results

http://i.imgur.com/J4nVrPf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/kpyGgJ6.png

Carlito's Way
11-12-2013, 11:38 AM
dumb little brown curry dont know crap about genetics lol

Carlito's Way
11-12-2013, 11:39 AM
Non-European looking but white skinned [meaning 65-85% European] population would form 12% of Mexicans.

if thats the case, it wouldnt be 12% but more like 30% of the population, harnizos(60% european range) are the majority in northern and western mexico dick head

Incal
11-12-2013, 04:49 PM
Guys, please, let's keep this thread civil. Let's not resort to insults. Insults are not arguments.

Baluarte
11-12-2013, 04:56 PM
Colombia only has 2% of pure whites. In the sense of no extra European admixture.

Visible whites are between 10% and 20% according to how strict you are. (Yes, you're right Peyrol).
I'd say 12% is a good number.

StonyArabia
11-12-2013, 04:59 PM
Argentinian girls are quite beautiful from what I have seen. Probably the most beautiful Latin Americans.

Han Cholo
11-12-2013, 05:02 PM
All are less white than they claim to be.

StonyArabia
11-12-2013, 05:04 PM
All are less white than they claim to be.


I think Argentinans and Uruguyans look quite White to me, although in the first there is some Amerind admix.

Han Cholo
11-12-2013, 05:06 PM
I think Argentinans and Uruguyans look quite White to me, although in the first there is some Amerind admix.

Argentina, you may be right:
http://lacomunidad.elpais.com/blogfiles/marasyotrosgrupos/cumbieros.jpg

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4a3moZ9S51rpfm2f.jpg

StonyArabia
11-12-2013, 05:09 PM
Argentina, you may be right:
http://lacomunidad.elpais.com/blogfiles/marasyotrosgrupos/cumbieros.jpg

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4a3moZ9S51rpfm2f.jpg

Interesting yeah they don't look that white to me or European. I guess their European element was over hyped and exaggerated.

Han Cholo
11-12-2013, 05:11 PM
Interesting yeah they don't look that white to me or European. I guess their European element was over hyped and exaggerated.

It's not that their European element is exaggerated. They're definitely more European influenced than the rest of Latin America. The problem is people like this are diminished and hidden /and they are not just 6% like their census claims).

Mn The Loki TA Son
11-12-2013, 05:11 PM
From what I have seen, I'll say Argentina 70-80%, Uruguay,80-85%, Brazil 30-35%

Mn The Loki TA Son
11-12-2013, 05:12 PM
Interesting yeah they don't look that white to me or European. I guess their European element was over hyped and exaggerated.

He cherry pick them.

Mn The Loki TA Son
11-12-2013, 05:14 PM
I think Argentinans and Uruguyans look quite White to me, although in the first there is some Amerind admix.

Yes, from what I have seen and in person they look very White with a few who looked mestizo.

Han Cholo
11-12-2013, 05:14 PM
He cherry pick them.

http://www.misionmundial.com.ar/equipos/argentina/HINCHADA-Argentinos-Mokaba-Polokwane-Tesone_CLAIMA20100622_0054_6.jpg

http://www.eltribuno.info/salta/Multimedios/imgs/288950_620.jpg?v=4

http://staticmd.lavozdelinterior.com.ar/sites/default/files/styles/landscape_1140_641/public/galer_a_multimedia/belgrano_argentinos_2_0.jpg

Some look Euro, some not. Definitely not only "6% mixed" like their census claims.

Mn The Loki TA Son
11-12-2013, 05:22 PM
http://www.misionmundial.com.ar/equipos/argentina/HINCHADA-Argentinos-Mokaba-Polokwane-Tesone_CLAIMA20100622_0054_6.jpg

http://www.eltribuno.info/salta/Multimedios/imgs/288950_620.jpg?v=4

Some look Euro, some not. Definitely not only "6% mixed" like their census claims.

I gave my comment base on from what I have seen and in person and most of them look White with a few who look mestizo, 90% of both the Argentines and Uruguayans I have seen and meet in person look like this
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/yoyochickenkfc/argentinaux4_zps55abaf8d.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a5/Luciana_Echeverr%C3%ADa.jpg
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/yoyochickenkfc/argentinos1_zps7f1a2b98.jpg
Uruguyans the same
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/yoyochickenkfc/Uruguay_176_zps3da1672f.jpg

Peyrol
11-12-2013, 05:28 PM
Argentina, you may be right:
http://lacomunidad.elpais.com/blogfiles/marasyotrosgrupos/cumbieros.jpg

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4a3moZ9S51rpfm2f.jpg

You forget some famous ''100% italianos'' argentines:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XoEzfeRyKrU/UGnr1LvWcGI/AAAAAAAAA7Y/C0DdqvpnUq4/s1600/maradona-palco-habano.jpg

http://fantacancio.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/mauro-german-camoranesi.jpg

Han Cholo
11-12-2013, 05:29 PM
90% Argentines have light hair? :rolleyes:

Mn The Loki TA Son
11-12-2013, 05:39 PM
90% Argentines have light hair? :rolleyes:

What's the matter? Do you have envy of them ? you know I was talking about their look.

Han Cholo
11-12-2013, 05:42 PM
What's the matter? Do you have envy of them ? you know I was talking about their look.

Nope, do you¿? Even other Argentine member here (Feral) has admitted I'm right.

istripador
11-12-2013, 05:52 PM
more than half of those who declare whites live in four states south of the Brazil:bored:

Mn The Loki TA Son
11-12-2013, 05:56 PM
Nope, do you¿? Even other Argentine member here (Feral) has admitted I'm right.

Yeah Whatever :rolleyes: Anyway 54% or so of white argies have some indian blood admixture but look white just like some white Americans who also have some in them but look just white. And Who the fuck cares? and If you envy them I don't give a fuck.

GrebluBro
11-12-2013, 08:17 PM
these people arent even castizo and look more european than what they show on their results
i wish i could post pictures of my cousins who are only around 60% european and look very European LOL

I am pretty sure you are barely eligible even to have high school degree.
I said 5% of population are exceptional. Out of some ~100 million European looking Latinos, that 5% will make 5 million which is a huge number in which anybody can pick 100s if tests are available.

Jessica Alba is 87% European. Does she look European? you little Mutt

I can post many non-European looking pictures with 85+ % EU genes

Read updated post #20 again. I made it more clear

Carlito's Way
11-12-2013, 08:24 PM
I am pretty sure you are barely eligible even to have high school degree.
I said 5% of population are exceptional. Out of some ~100 million European looking Latinos, that 5% will make 5 million which is a huge number in which anybody can pick 100s if tests are available.

Jessica Alba is 87% European. Does she look European? you little Mutt

I can post many non-European looking pictures with 85+ % EU genes

jessica alba is not 87% european, the company she tested do not give accurate results dip shit
she would fall in the harnizo range, around 60% european

you dont know anything about genetics, shut the fuck up curry boy
i think i would know more about mestizos than a retarded burnt curry boy

Han Cholo
11-12-2013, 08:26 PM
I am pretty sure you are barely eligible even to have high school degree.
I said 5% of population are exceptional. Out of some ~100 million European looking Latinos, that 5% will make 5 million which is a huge number in which anybody can pick 100s if tests are available.

Jessica Alba is 87% European. Does she look European? you little Mutt

I can post many non-European looking pictures with 85+ % EU genes

Read updated post #20 again. I made it more clear

Jessica Alba is no way 87% European. There are members here, Black Sun Dimension, or Hellhammer, that are in that range. Definitely nothing like Jessica Alba.

GrebluBro
11-12-2013, 08:29 PM
Jessica Alba is no way 87% European.

George Lopez DNA test results say so.
His results for others persons seem to be right so many people believed her test as well.


I don't consider her more than 75% Euro too

IMO I don't believe in inherited genes.

We should talk in ancestors perspective, like 3 out of 4 grandparents were Europeans or 7 out of 8 great-grandparents were EUro

Han Cholo
11-12-2013, 08:31 PM
George Lopez DNA test results say so.
His results for others persons seem to be right so many people believed her test as well.


I don't consider her more than 75% Euro too

IMO I don't believe in inherited genes.

We should talk in ancestors perspective, like 3 out of 4 grandparents were Europeans or 7 out of 8 great-grandparents were EUro

She looks 50/50 to me, maybe 60/40.

GrebluBro
11-12-2013, 08:33 PM
jessica alba is not 87% european, the company she tested do not give accurate results dip shit
she would fall in the harnizo range, around 60% european

you dont know anything about genetics, shut the fuck up curry boy
i think i would know more about mestizos than a retarded burnt curry boy

23andme gives bullshit results too. No company is reliable.

Why don't you pay give a full reading to my point [re-read the post #20 which I updated to be more clear]

I don't believe Jessica Alba results too. I believe more in ancestors not in inheritance of genes literally.

We should talk in ancestors perspective, like 3 out of 4 grandparents were Europeans or 7 out of 8 great-grandparents were EUro.

Carlito's Way
11-12-2013, 08:34 PM
George Lopez DNA test results say so.
His results for others persons seem to be right so many people believed her test as well.


I don't consider her more than 75% Euro too

IMO I don't believe in inherited genes.

We should talk in ancestors perspective, like 3 out of 4 grandparents were Europeans or 7 out of 8 great-grandparents were EUro

the company they used for testing DO NOT COME OUT ACCURATE idiot
dont you know anything about that company??

Carlito's Way
11-12-2013, 08:36 PM
23andme gives bullshit results too. No company is reliable.

Why don't you pay give a full reading to my point [re-read the post #20 which I updated to be more clear]

I don't believe Jessica Alba results too. I believe more in ancestors not in inheritance of genes literally.

We should talk in ancestors perspective, like 3 out of 4 grandparents were Europeans or 7 out of 8 great-grandparents were EUro.

dumbass, 23andme is far more accurate than the company she got tested with LOL you are so stupid
if she wouldve been tested with 23andme, we wouldve only add 10-15% more Amerindian

GrebluBro
11-12-2013, 08:40 PM
dumbass, 23andme is far more accurate than the company she got tested with LOL you are so stupid
if she wouldve been tested with 23andme, we wouldve only add 10-15% more Amerindian

Alight I better concede to this guy's tantrum. 23andme is the best. happy?

I don't care what company takes test and what the results are.

I care only about ancestors not the inheritance of genes literally. I already said it many times.

Carlito's Way
11-12-2013, 08:41 PM
Alight I better concede to this guy's tantrum. 23andme is the best. happy?

I don't care what company takes test and what the results are.

I care only about ancestors not the inheritance of genes literally. I already said it many times.

23andme will always be the best
you are a troll

Mn The Loki TA Son
11-12-2013, 08:43 PM
the company they used for testing DO NOT COME OUT ACCURATE idiot
dont you know anything about that company??
The company where George Lopez test the supposed "results" look phonier than a 3 dollar bill.

Damião de Góis
11-12-2013, 08:50 PM
Cool.

I also found estimations for Mexico, Peru, Cuba, Paraguay.

Mexico => 6% or 7M European looking
Peru => 3M white-skinned but only 1M European looking (almost all in Lima)
Paraguay => 4M white-skinned but only 0.7M or 10% European looking
Cuba => 4M white-skinned but only 1M or 10% European looking

Let me know your estimations.

Note: I spent too much time for each country's research in Latin America before concluding all those percentages.

Not that i'm an expert, but shouldn't Cuba be higher than that?

Mn The Loki TA Son
11-12-2013, 08:53 PM
The company where George Lopez test the supposed "results" look phonier than a 3 dollar bill.

I rest my case, about what i said here.

"In 2009, the results of a DNA test read by Mariah Carey on Lopez Tonight revealed Lopez to be of 55% European, 32% Native American, 9% East Asian, and 4% African descent.[21] However, the test's accuracy is disputed by several genealogists."

GrebluBro
11-12-2013, 08:58 PM
Not that i'm an expert, but shouldn't Cuba be higher than that?

Even among Cuban Americans, percent of European looking seems to be at most 30-40%.
But Non-Hispanic white Americans barely accept 15% since their expectation is Western European standard.
It is a well known fact that Florida/Miami (strong Republican area with White preference during mass migration and even now to some extent) were interested in receiving mostly White (only minority look European) Cubans.

So it is pretty obvious, Euro looking percent in Cuba must be much lower than Cuban-Americans.
It is also believed that most of upper-class people left Cuba during Castro's rule who are predominantly European looking.

Plus birth rates tend to much lower among European looking Cubans in both US and Cuba.
No way more than 15%. I used 10% which I feel surely correct in "at least" perspective.
Cubans declare themselves white if they have light-skin and don't care about features.

istripador
11-12-2013, 09:01 PM
Even among Cuban Americans, percent of European looking seems to be 30-40% which most agree.
It is a well known fact that Florida/Miami (strong Republican area with White preference during mass migration and even now to some extent) were interested in receiving mostly White (only minority look European) Cubans.

So it is pretty obvious, Euro looking population in Cuba must be much lower than Cuban-Americans.
It is also believed that most of upper-class people left Cuba during Castro's rule who are predominantly European looking.

Plus birth rates tend to much lower among European looking Cubans in both US and Cuba.
No way more than 15%. I used 10% which I feel surely correct in "at least" perspective

his ignorance amazes me: Picard2:

Damião de Góis
11-12-2013, 09:02 PM
Even among Cuban Americans, percent of European looking seems to be at most 30-40%.
But Non-Hispanic white Americans barely accept 15% since their expectation is Western European standard.
It is a well known fact that Florida/Miami (strong Republican area with White preference during mass migration and even now to some extent) were interested in receiving mostly White (only minority look European) Cubans.

So it is pretty obvious, Euro looking population in Cuba must be much lower than Cuban-Americans.
It is also believed that most of upper-class people left Cuba during Castro's rule who are predominantly European looking.

Plus birth rates tend to much lower among European looking Cubans in both US and Cuba.
No way more than 15%. I used 10% which I feel surely correct in "at least" perspective

I don't know enough about Mexico to comment on them, but from what i've seen of Cubans and Paraguayans i find it hard to believe that they have the same percentage.

Mn The Loki TA Son
11-12-2013, 09:07 PM
George Lopez DNA test results say so.
His results for others persons seem to be right so many people believed her test as well.


I don't consider her more than 75% Euro too

IMO I don't believe in inherited genes.

We should talk in ancestors perspective, like 3 out of 4 grandparents were Europeans or 7 out of 8 great-grandparents were EUro

"In 2009, the results of a DNA test read by Mariah Carey on Lopez Tonight revealed Lopez to be of 55% European, 32% Native American, 9% East Asian, and 4% African descent.[21] However, the test's accuracy is disputed by several genealogists."

I rest my case of what I said here and Carlos case.
http://blogwillis.zippykid.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Case-Closed-Stamp_645x400.png

istripador
11-12-2013, 09:10 PM
I don't know enough about Mexico to comment on them, but from what i've seen of Cubans and Paraguayans i find it hard to believe that they have the same percentage.

he knows nothing about cuba!when he says "look European" probably he is thinking of Britons do not in iberians

Damião de Góis
11-12-2013, 09:14 PM
he knows nothing about cuba!when he says "look European" probably he is thinking of Britons do not in iberians

This must be the first thing that we agree on. I was expecting you to contradict me just because...

GrebluBro
11-12-2013, 09:24 PM
he knows nothing about cuba!when he says "look European" probably he is thinking of Britons do not in iberians
I do know Iberians phenotype and I did consider them.

I am wondering how much percent you estimate for European looking Cubans in Cuba.
Mine is 10-15%, not out of this range for sure.

SchwarzenCatzz
11-12-2013, 09:27 PM
brazil's useful whites= 0,01%

istripador
11-12-2013, 09:28 PM
I do know Iberians phenotype and I did consider them.

I am wondering how much percent you estimate for European looking Cubans in Cuba.
Mine is 10-15%, not out of this range for sure.

how much shit you talk

curupira
11-12-2013, 09:37 PM
Mine is 10-15%, not out of this range for sure.

Go to 23andme, on average Cubans are the most european there. The vast majority of them score highly european on average. According to their census, people in Cuba who identifed as "white" were over 60%. Given that "white" Cubans are on average the most european in ancestry on 23andme, I'd expect Cuba to have a much greater % of "european looking" people than 10% to 15%.

GrebluBro
11-12-2013, 10:07 PM
Damn I should have added Cuba in the poll.
Guys don't forget to answer poll questions.
13 votes are very low for 900 views

Han Cholo
11-12-2013, 11:48 PM
Damn I should have added Cuba in the poll.
Guys don't forget to answer poll questions.
13 votes are very low for 900 views

No one gives a fuck about how many whites they have.

istripador
11-13-2013, 02:21 AM
Indian with inferiority complex for the its brown color talking about South America make me laugh

RMuller
11-13-2013, 06:13 AM
Even among Cuban Americans, percent of European looking seems to be at most 30-40%.
But Non-Hispanic white Americans barely accept 15% since their expectation is Western European standard.
It is a well known fact that Florida/Miami (strong Republican area with White preference during mass migration and even now to some extent) were interested in receiving mostly White (only minority look European) Cubans.

So it is pretty obvious, Euro looking percent in Cuba must be much lower than Cuban-Americans.
It is also believed that most of upper-class people left Cuba during Castro's rule who are predominantly European looking.

Plus birth rates tend to much lower among European looking Cubans in both US and Cuba.
No way more than 15%. I used 10% which I feel surely correct in "at least" perspective.
Cubans declare themselves white if they have light-skin and don't care about features.

Most Cuban-Americans are white. And Cuba has to be atleast 35% white. If you knew Cuba's history you would know that it received around 1.5-2 million Spaniards during 1825-1940.Cuba's population was under 5 million during that era it recieved its immigration. You claim Mexico is 10% white and Cuba 10% white. Most of the settlers that come to Mexico were single men from Spain. Over 90% were single men. Mexico recieved very little European immigration after 1821.
Mexico's 1910 census had only 60,000 foreigners and out of those 15,000 were from Guatemala. Mexico's pop in 1910 was 14 million.
Around the same era 1910 Cuba had over 800,000 Spanish born living in Cuba .Cuba's population was no more than 6 million.

You are not Southasian its damn obvious. I think you are some weird mexican dude that wants to white wash Mexico.
So how in the hell would Mexico have the same amount whites like Cuba?

Carlito's Way
11-13-2013, 06:20 AM
Most Cuban-Americans are white. And Cuba has to be atleast 35% white. If you knew Cuba's history you would know that it received around 1.5-2 million Spaniards during 1825-1940.Cuba's population was under 5 million during that era it recieved its immigration. You claim Mexico is 10% white and Cuba 10% white. Most of the settlers that come to Mexico were single men from Spain. Over 90% were single men. Mexico recieved very little European immigration after 1821.
Mexico's 1910 census had only 60,000 foreigners and out of those 15,000 were from Guatemala. Mexico's pop in 1910 was 14 million.
Around the same era 1910 Cuba had over 800,000 Spanish born living in Cuba .Cuba's population was no more than 6 million.

You are not Southasian its damn obvious. I think you are some weird mexican dude that wants to white wash Mexico.
So how in the hell would Mexico have the same amount whites like Cuba?

like i mentioned, all latin american countries will have a pure white minority, even white cubans on 23andme come out being mixed but they still hit around the 90% european range

if they who came from a country where europeans families immigrated to, i doubt places like colombia, venezuela, peru, costa rica, chile, mexico ect will have anything close to 10% pure whites because those countries mostly received single spanish men

a lot of latinos like to white wash their countries, they get mad at me for stating the obvious

Mn The Loki TA Son
11-13-2013, 06:28 AM
like i mentioned, all latin american countries will have a pure white minority, even white cubans on 23andme come out being mixed but they still hit around the 90% european range

if they who came from a country where europeans families immigrated to, i doubt places like colombia, venezuela, peru, costa rica, chile, mexico ect will have anything close to 10% pure whites because those countries mostly received single spanish men

a lot of latinos like to white wash their countries, they get mad at me for stating the obvious

Yes,Like some Hispanic/Latinos in the forum here who try to whiten their countries. Like for example, SilverKnight. Who in his Dominican people threads he don't really show the average looking Dominican=Black-mulatto. He shows mostly only White looking Dominicans.

Brighton
11-13-2013, 03:33 PM
Not trying to whitewash anything, as I know Chile is app. 30% White.. but, about the comparison, I would tend to think Chile's got a bigger non-Spanish (i.e. essentially German and English) influence in its population than, let's say, Mexico, Peru, Colombia, Venezuela and Costa Rica..

istripador
11-14-2013, 03:39 AM
Not trying to whitewash anything, as I know Chile is app. 30% White.. but, about the comparison, I would tend to think Chile's got a bigger non-Spanish (i.e. essentially German and English) influence in its population than, let's say, Mexico, Peru, Colombia, Venezuela and Costa Rica..

"as I know Chile is app. 30% White" : Picard2:: Picard1:: Picard2:: Picard1:

Brighton
11-14-2013, 03:59 AM
"Given: 15/133"

You've clearly got a personality disorder.

I am ignoring you since now, for good.

istripador
11-14-2013, 04:19 AM
"Given: 15/133"

You've clearly got a personality disorder.

I am ignoring you since now, for good.

My thumbs down came from you guys Chileans, Mexican and Spanish labaru trolls

paksaltopam
12-26-2013, 06:21 AM
I honestly had no idea that Uruguay was SO European.

GrebluBro
12-26-2013, 06:23 AM
I honestly had no idea that Uruguay was SO European.

Uruguay is more European than its Soccer team..The team itself got 6-7 European of 11 players.

75% strongly Euro..

paksaltopam
12-26-2013, 06:34 AM
Uruguay is more European than its Soccer team..The team itself got 6-7 European of 11 players.

75% strongly Euro..
I guess all the immigrants that I know from South American countries are straight up Mestizo looking, I have a skewed view of the general population.

GrebluBro
12-26-2013, 06:38 AM
I guess all the immigrants that I know from South American countries are straight up Mestizo looking, I have a skewed view of the general population.

Typical South Americans are from Colombia/Venezuela regions..they look light skinned Mestizos mostly..Agreed?

Brazil immigrants would be more non-Euro too because Europeans in Brazil are quite rich and they don't have to immigrate to US unless education related.

Brazil is 30% Euro which only South Americans are aware of it..To outside world, they are brownies because of some ridiculous stereotype.

Uruguay immigrants are mostly Euro but they are very low in number because the country itself got just 3.5 million people..small nation.

Lemonhead
03-01-2014, 10:45 PM
In my opinon:
Uruguay 80-85%
Argentina 75-80%
Brazil 30-35%
Venezuela 15-20%
Colombia 10-15%

You forgot the rest of South America.

Lemonhead
03-04-2014, 02:40 AM
Bump.

GrebluBro
03-04-2014, 11:21 AM
In my opinon:
Uruguay 80-85%
Argentina 75-80%
Brazil 30-35%
Venezuela 15-20%
Colombia 10-15%

You forgot the rest of South America.

Too many options...I missed Chile which got 25% White IMO

Uruguay 75-80%
Argentina 65-70%
Brazil 30%
Venezuela 10-12%
Colombia 8-10%

Lemonhead
03-04-2014, 07:41 PM
Too many options...I missed Chile which got 25% White IMO

Uruguay 75-80%
Argentina 65-70%
Brazil 30%
Venezuela 10-12%
Colombia 8-10%

What's your opinion on Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, and Paraguay?

GrebluBro
03-04-2014, 07:47 PM
What's your opinion on Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, and Paraguay?

Ecuador => 0.5 million
Peru => 1-1.5 million (Census exaggerates and most Castizos declared themselves White)
Bolivia => 0.4 M
Paraguay => 0.7 M or ~10% (another 30-40% Castizo)

GrebluBro
03-04-2014, 09:39 PM
bump

warrior1994
03-04-2014, 09:51 PM
argentina 60- 70 euro
uruguay 80 euro
Brasil:40 euro
chile:25-30 euro
costa rica: 30-35 euro
mexico:15 euro
paraguay 20-25 euro
Colombia:15 - 20 euro
Venezuela 20 euro
peru:10-15 euro

GrebluBro
03-04-2014, 10:12 PM
argentina 60- 70 euro
uruguay 80 euro
Brasil:40 euro
chile:25-30 euro
costa rica: 30-35 euro
mexico:15 euro
paraguay 20-25 euro
Colombia:15 - 20 euro
Venezuela 20 euro
peru:10-15 euro

Brazil, costa rica, paraguay, Colombia, Venezuela, peru are exaggered

warrior1994
03-04-2014, 11:57 PM
Brazil, costa rica, paraguay, Colombia, Venezuela, peru are exaggered

+1

warrior1994
03-05-2014, 10:19 AM
chile is a harnizo/castizo country
argentina: castizo/White
uruguay: White/castizo
Brasil: half White and half mixed
Colombia: mestizo/harnizo/triracial
mexico: mestizo
Venezuela: mestizo/harnizo/triracial
peru: indomestizo
Bolivia: indigenous
paraguay: harnizo/mestizo

Methusalem
03-05-2014, 08:22 PM
0% for all countries.

Argentano
03-05-2014, 08:52 PM
argentina 65- 70 euro
uruguay 75-80 euro
Brasil:20-25 euro
chile:20-25 euro
paraguay 15-20 euro
Colombia:5-10 euro
Venezuela 5-10 euro

Brighton
03-07-2014, 01:54 AM
argentina 65- 70 euro
uruguay 75-80 euro
Brasil:20-25 euro
chile:20-25 euro
paraguay 15-20 euro
Colombia:5-10 euro
Venezuela 5-10 euroNaa no estoy de acuerdoo

Chile y Brasil son mas bien 30-35..

Tampoco es TAAANTA la diferencia entre Chile y Argentina como para que uno tenga 20% y el otro 70%.. sobretodo en las "provincias" -ojo que ya se que el area mas europea es la mas poblada.. solo enfatizo que en algunas provincias la diferencia es casi inexistente :P

Argentano
03-07-2014, 02:09 AM
Naa no estoy de acuerdoo

Chile y Brasil son mas bien 30-35..

Tampoco es TAAANTA la diferencia entre Chile y Argentina como para que uno tenga 20% y el otro 70%.. sobretodo en las "provincias" -ojo que ya se que el area mas europea es la mas poblada.. solo enfatizo que en algunas provincias la diferencia es casi inexistente :P

podria ser tranquilamente como decis vos.. yo no podria ver la diferencia si fueran 25 o 35 :thumb001:

brazuca
03-07-2014, 09:45 AM
chie mas branco que o brasi huahuahuahuahuhua esse cara é muito troll.

mais da metade dos brasieiros que se decaram brancos vivem em 4 estados.

brazuca
03-07-2014, 09:46 AM
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