How much genetic Greek ancestry do Cypriots have?

[Sikeliot]

Obviously Cypriots identify as Greeks, but how much Greek ancestry do they have?

This is where everyone clusters:

http://abload.de/img/mfa_eurogenes_mdszzo3v.png


And this is, from a Dodecad run, the average genetic results of south Greeks (think Peloponnese) versus Cypriots.


South Greece:

North European: 21.27%
Caucasian-Near Eastern: 35.47%
North African: 1.45%
Caucasus-Gedrosia: 8.13%
SW Europe: 19.20%
Arabic: 6.16%


Cypriots:

Northern European: 3.97%
Caucasus-Near Eastern: 44.94%
North African: 2.41%
Caucasus-Gedrosia: 14.77%
SW Europe: 15.40%
Arabic: 11.20%

[Tooting Carmen]

From the photos and genetic plots I've seen, let's say 50/50 Greek-Levantine.

[Sikeliot]

For comparison here are Lebanese;

NorthEast European/Baltic -- 1.98
Caucasus -- 37.11
North African -- 5.07
Gedrosia -- 15.41
SW Europe -- 7.39
Arabic -- 16.50

[Smeagol]

They are fully ancient Levantine.

[Stormer99]

They are fully ancient Levantine.

No they are not. Otherwise Sicilians would be close to fully ancient Levantine. The Druze are.

[Smeagol]

No they are not.

Yes they are.


Otherwise Sicilians would be close to fully ancient Levantine.

They probably are.


The Druze are.

Nope. You keep repeating this after I explained the Druze have Arab, and Iranian blood.

[Stormer99]

They probably are.
No they are not.




Nope. You keep repeating this after I explained the Druze have Arab, and Iranian blood.

Southwest Asian is a component all over the Middle East. The Iraqi Jews have a lot for instance. Cypriots are European admixed.

[Smeagol]

No they are not.

Yes they are.


Southwest Asian is a component all over the Middle East. The Iraqi Jews have a lot for instance. Cypriots are European admixed

I know that. I said they had ARAB, and Iranian admixture. Cypriots, and Levantines are both European admixed, Cypriots just have more because they aren't mixed with Arabs like you.

[Stormer99]

Yes they are.



I know that. I said they had ARAB, and Iranian admixture. Cypriots, and Levantines are both European admixed, Cypriots just have more because they aren't mixed with Arabs like you.

Or maybe Cypriots have more because they are mixed with actual Greeks? Keep deluding yourself that the Levant was anciently mixed with lots of European just because it goes with your agenda. Samaritans are much closer to the original than Cypriots for example.

[Smeagol]

Or maybe Cypriots have more because they are mixed with actual Greeks?

Prove it. If they were mixed with Greeks they would have more North European then they do.


Keep deluding yourself that the Levant was anciently mixed with lots of European just because it goes with your agenda.

Not lots.


Samaritans are much closer to the original than Cypriots for example.

Nope, they have Arab blood too.

[Stormer99]

Just like Horatio believes there is a native Ethiopoid type when in actually that type happened when Arabians mixed with Nilotics...Or that Southern Egyptians are extreme Caucasoids

[Smeagol]

Just like Horatio believes there is a native Ethiopoid type when in actually that type happened when Arabians mixed with Nilotics...

You are such an idiot. If you want to see Nilotics mixed with Caucasoids look at Nubians.


Or that Southern Egyptians are extreme Caucasoids

I never said that. They are predominantly Caucasoid.

[Stormer99]

You are such an idiot. If you want to see Nilotics mixed with Caucasoids look at Nubians.

Then why do genetic tests show them to be around 43% SSA with the rest Southwest Asian? Ancient mixture.



I never said that. They are predominantly Caucasoid.

Most yes but not all

[Smeagol]

Then why do genetic tests show them to be around 43% SSA with the rest Southwest Asian? Ancient mixture.

The East African component is closer to Caucasoid than Negroid.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Pw7x-HD7ON0/TgJS__AvriI/AAAAAAAAAiU/44-iorvZqS0/s1600/fst.pn

The basic Aethiopid type is a transitional racial type on its own between Caucasoid and Negroid, but closer to Caucasoid, and many Horners and Aethiopids are even more Caucasoid then that, also many are morphologically pure Caucasoids.


Most yes but not all

The ones who aren't are Nubians.

[Stormer99]

The East African component is closer to Caucasoid than Negroid.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Pw7x-HD7ON0/TgJS__AvriI/AAAAAAAAAiU/44-iorvZqS0/s1600/fst.pn

The basic Aethiopid type is a transitional racial type on its own between Caucasoid and Negroid, but closer to Caucasoid, and many Ethiopians and Aethiopids are even more Caucasoid then that, also many are morphologically pure Caucasoids.


Yes it is slightly closer to Southwest Asian than it is to Neo African. It's an anciently mixed component. It's like on how 23andme a lot of Moroccans don't get much SSA because it's hidden in the North Africa component. East African hides Southwest Asian admixture and people assume it to be a fully SSA component when it's a mix. If it was fully SSA, it would plot near neo African.

[Smeagol]

Yes it is slightly closer to Southwest Asian than it is to Neo African. It's an anciently mixed component

Yes, it's closer to the Caucasoid components than to the negroid components, and add to that, Horners already have 50-60% Southwest Asian, so overall they're predominantly Caucasoids.

[Scholarios]

Imagine them as the Pelasgians with much less Achaean blood.

[Stormer99]

Yes, it's closer to the Caucasoid components than to the negroid components, and add to that, Horners already have 50-60% Southwest Asian, so overall they're predominantly Caucasoids.

The Southwest Asian is included in the Horner component and so is the SSA. It's a mixed component. They are slightly more Caucasoid than the other but I would say that component is around 43% SSA and 57% Southwest Asian AKA mixed. Horners just choose to ignore genetic studies they don't like because it goes against their agenda of being the first human beings.... They also don't understand the concept of ancient admixture.

[alb0zfinest]

Probably around 80% Greek blood.

[Smeagol]

The Southwest Asian is included in the Horner component and so is the SSA. It's a mixed component. They are slightly more Caucasoid than the other but I would say that component is around 43% SSA and 57% Southwest Asian AKA mixed.

Nope. The East African component is more Caucasoid than Negroid, and add to that the Horners have additional Southwest Asian influences.

Look at these Tutsis who are predominantly East African, and don't have the Southwest Asian Horners do.

http://robertlindsay.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/tutsi-2.jpg

http://www.paulkagame.com/2010/images/stories/president%20kagame-rwanda-official-headshot.jpg

http://robertlindsay.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/tutsi.jpg

[Smeagol]

Probably around 80% Greek blood.

Impossible. They would have close to 20% North European if that were true. Cypriots are even less European than Sephardic Jews.

[Sikeliot]

If Cypriots were mostly Greek, they would have more Northern European, yes. If Greeks on average from the continent have 20% (discounting that northern Greeks have like 27-30%), Cypriots have 7x less Northern Euro than mainland Greeks, and 10x less than northern ones.

[ZephyrousMandaru]

If Cypriots are plotting that far away from Greeks, then it isn't enough to be meaningful. Because they're cline indicates they're on a one-way trip to Levantine-ville.

[Gaston]

I voted less than 25%. I think it's even much less. In any case, Cypriots are not fully Levantine and are very far from Greeks from the mainland and far enough from Greek islanders.

[ZephyrousMandaru]

I voted less than 25%. I think it's even much less. In any case, Cypriots are not fully Levantine.

They may not be fully Levantine, but they're more Non-European than European. Remember, Cyprus is not located anywhere near Greece. It's in Asia.

[YeshAtid]

Proof that Azkhenazi Jews and Siclians are essentially the closest to the original levantines.

[archangel]

they look same imho i mean greeks and cypriots

[YeshAtid]

People tend not to realise the genetic make-up of a population can change.

[YeshAtid]

No they are not. Otherwise Sicilians would be close to fully ancient Levantine. The Druze are.
Aren't they berberid?

[Stormer99]

Aren't they berberid?

:rolleyes2:

[YeshAtid]

:rolleyes2:

Everyone's a berber according to you.

[Stormer99]

Proof that Azkhenazi Jews and Siclians are essentially the closest to the original levantines.

Samaritans are.

[Baluarte]

Where is the North Euro blood coming in the Greek numbers? Slavic blood?

[YeshAtid]

Samaritans are.

No they aren't. They have some Iranid and Arabid traits. Palestinian Christians less so, but I've seen ghassinind influence in some of them.

[Tooting Carmen]

Where is the North Euro blood coming in the Greek numbers? Slavic blood?

Yes

[Stormer99]

No they aren't. They have some Iranid and Arabid traits. Palestinian Christians less so, but I've seen ghassinind influence in some of them.

The traits Samaritans have are indigenous to the Levant.

[Smeagol]

Samaritans are.

Nope.

[Smeagol]

Where is the North Euro blood coming in the Greek numbers? Slavic blood?

Indo-European blood.

[Sikeliot]

I think the extra North Euro in northern Greeks is due to Slavic influence, but all mainland Greeks have 20%+ of it, while islanders have like 10% and Sicilians have in the single digits according to that Dodecad and Eurogenes analysis.

[YeshAtid]

The traits Samaritans have are indigenous to the Levant.

Most of it, but there's some Arabid and Iranid. Cypriots are the most representative, and thus so are Sicilians and the Azkhenazim. Deal with it!

[Smeagol]

I think the extra North Euro in northern Greeks is due to Slavic influence, but all mainland Greeks have 20%+ of it, while islanders have like 10% and Sicilians have in the single digits according to that Dodecad and Eurogenes analysis.

Mainland Greeks probably have always had more North Euro.

[YeshAtid]

Mainland Greeks probably have always had more North Euro.

Which ethnicity is likely the most representative of the original Levantines. Take into account there can be population shifts.

[Bloodsport]

I'm going to make one final attempt to try and convince people that Cypriots ARE Greeks and the claim we are less than 50% Greek is pure ignorant.

The first thing you have to consider is regions. The city of Limassol (Lemesos) is very well known for having a large settlement of Pontic Greeks. If you were to compare the DNA of Pontic Greeks to the DNA of people from Limassol, I think you'd find that they are extremely similar. My Dad's area is known for having a large settlement of Greek Islanders and I can indeed trace part of my ancestry back to Lesvos. The reason you see huge differences between how some Cypriots look is because Cyprus was conquered many times and different people settled in different places.

Second of all, I think Cypriots may be quite close to whatever the Ancient Phoenicians were. But let's remember the Phoenicians were heavily involved in the Hellenistic world and part of the Greek alphabet was based on the Phoenician language. I see some 'Levantine' features that fit in Lebanon, but compared to the average Syrian and especially Jordanian, we look NOTHING LIKE EACH OTHER. I'm being serious, if you walked through Nicosia and walked through Amman you'd see how drastically different people looked.

Thirdly, if Cypriots aren't Greek, then Sicilians aren't Italian and Andalusians aren't Spanish. I feel we get picked on a lot, and most of us feel far closer to to the 'motherland' than Sicilians do to Italy for example.

So yeah, we may be partly Levantine, maybe even 1/4, and in the atypical case I've seen some that could pass as extremely swarthy West Asians, but the majority are 70-100% Greeks.

[Sikeliot]

Thirdly, if Cypriots aren't Greek, then Sicilians aren't Italian

I don't consider Sicilians "Italian" if Italian includes people from the Alps.

[Smeagol]

but the majority are 70-100% Greeks.

That is absolutely impossible. Even Greek Islanders have 10% North European DNA, while Cypriots have only about 3%, so Cypriots can be at most almost 50% Greek, and probably less.

[Smeagol]

Which ethnicity is likely the most representative of the original Levantines. Take into account there can be population shifts.

Cypriots I guess.

[Sikeliot]

That is absolutely impossible. Even Greek Islanders have 10% North European DNA, while Cypriots have only about 3%, so Cypriots can be at most almost 50% Greek, and probably less.

I agree. Cypriots are Greek, because that's their language, culture, identity.. but I have yet to see even one Cypriot get a genetic result akin to other Greeks. Not to mention Pontians are not genetically Greek either, they are close to Armenians and Georgians.

[Stormer99]

Most of it, but there's some Arabid and Iranid. Cypriots are the most representative, and thus so are Sicilians and the Azkhenazim. Deal with it!

If they were, they would get almost no European on the McDonald map.

[Sikeliot]

If they were, they wouldn't get so much Euro on McDonald. They would get almost all purple.

Sicilians get about half of each.

[YeshAtid]

Cypriots I guess.

Thus, AJs and Sicilians are also included. It seems people disagree:rolleyes2:

[YeshAtid]

If they were, they would get almost no European on the McDonald map.

They cluster with the original pre-Arabic Levantines.

[Smeagol]

If they were, they would get almost no European on the McDonald map.

Nope, even modern Levantines get some European.

[Sikeliot]

They cluster with the original pre-Arabic Levantines.

Cypriots? Or Sicilians?

Cypriots are closer genetically to Sicilians and Greek islanders than to mainland Greeks.

[YeshAtid]

Cypriots? Or Sicilians?

Cypriots are closer genetically to Sicilians and Greek islanders than to mainland Greeks.

Both.

[archangel]

i have one question, Türkish cypriots can often look quite northern because many of their ancestors were Türks from east europea(such as Gagauz Türks) but greek cypriots look more classic regional(east meds) do these populations cluster each other?

[Stormer99]

Nope, even modern Levantines get some European.

Their chromosome maps are very overwhelmingly purple, almost no red.

[Bloodsport]

http://www.tovima.gr/science/technology-planet/article/?aid=455152&h1=true

The first farmers in northern Europe probably originated from Greece and Cyprus, according to a new genetic study

A few thousand years, the European lifestyle underwent a dramatic change: gatherer societies were gradually replaced by the first farming communities. Research published in the journal «Science» has now discovered that the first farmers of northern Europe were probably immigrants from the Mediterranean, have genetic similarities to the current population of Greece, Italy and Cyprus.

[Smeagol]

http://www.tovima.gr/science/technology-planet/article/?aid=455152&h1=true

The first farmers in northern Europe probably originated from Greece and Cyprus, according to a new genetic study

A few thousand years, the European lifestyle underwent a dramatic change: gatherer societies were gradually replaced by the first farming communities. Research published in the journal «Science» has now discovered that the first farmers of northern Europe were probably immigrants from the Mediterranean, have genetic similarities to the current population of Greece, Italy and Cyprus.

What does that have to do with anything?

[Bloodsport]

What does that have to do with anything?

Swedes are dirty Levantines and aren't European, etc.

[Tooting Carmen]

Greeks
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Greece_national_football_team_(2010-11-17).jpg

Cypriots
http://www.parikiaki.com/wp-content/uploads/cyprus-team-photo.jpg

Lebanese
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8KNJbDrwU-U/URz2Tk2brYI/AAAAAAAAAf4/p4Qf5jV4qaw/s1600/lebanon+soccer.jpg

[Smeagol]

Their chromosome maps are very overwhelmingly purple, almost no red.

SW Europe -- 7.39
NorthEast European/Baltic -- 1.98

[Smeagol]

Swedes are dirty Levantines and aren't European, etc.

What are you talking about?

[Sikeliot]

This is my impression. Greek islanders, Cypriots, Sicilians, and southern Italians are largely Neolithic Levantines, and that mainland Greeks were never similar to any of these groups genetically. I also think there is very little Norman nor Italic ancestry in southern Italy or Sicily, despite Italic languages having been there.. it was likely that actual Italics were greatly outnumbered.

[Tooting Carmen]

This is my impression. Greek islanders, Cypriots, Sicilians, and southern Italians are largely Neolithic Levantines, and that mainland Greeks were never similar to any of these groups genetically. I also think there is very little Norman nor Italic ancestry in southern Italy or Sicily, despite Italic languages having been there.. it was likely that actual Italics were greatly outnumbered.

What about all the Normans in Palermo?

[Sikeliot]

What about all the Normans in Palermo?

I have yet to find that a single person on 23andme that I share with from Palermo has significant Norman ancestry, it seems to be like, 2% at best of anything North European.

Normans were a small number of elites. If you want to find their ancestry, go to all of those in Palermo who hold the wealth. The average peasant selling vegetables at the market is going to have probably no Norman ancestry.

[YeshAtid]

Swedes are dirty Levantines and aren't European, etc.

:confused:

[Tooting Carmen]

Syrians
http://static.goal.com/206600/206689hp2.jpg

Jordanians
http://www.fifa.com/mm/photo/tournament/competition/01/54/31/79/1543179_full-lnd.jpg

[ZephyrousMandaru]

Proof that Azkhenazi Jews and Siclians are essentially the closest to the original levantines.

Bullshit. Ashkenazim Jews are a genetically inbred, bottlenecked population of various European and Middle Eastern ethnicities. They are by no means, the "Original Levantines". Neither are the Sicilians.

[YeshAtid]

Bullshit. Ashkenazim Jews are a genetically inbred, bottlenecked population of various European and Middle Eastern ethnicities. They are by no means, the "Original Levantines". Neither are the Sicilians.

They're cluster with Cypriots, the most representative Levantines.

[ZephyrousMandaru]

That is absolutely impossible. Even Greek Islanders have 10% North European DNA, while Cypriots have only about 3%, so Cypriots can be at most almost 50% Greek, and probably less.

50% is an exaggeration. Cypriots are overwhelmingly Middle Eastern in origin, they can hardly be called a European population. Any genetic impact that mainland Greek settlers left was insubstantial.

[ZephyrousMandaru]

They're cluster with Cypriots, the most representative Levantines.

Cypriots aren't the most representative, modern populations aren't representative of ancient ones. I'm tired of repeating myself to idiots.

[Smeagol]

50% is an exaggeration. Cypriots are overwhelmingly Middle Eastern in origin, they can hardly be called a European population. Any genetic impact that mainland Greek settlers left was insubstantial.

I know.

[Maleficent]

First of all, Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Averages of important ethnicities correlated with this subject, in order from greatest to least East Med admixture:

Since you imbeciles are convinced Cypriots are 'purest Levantines' :rolleyes:

Anything under one percent is most likely noise, by the way.

Lebanese Druze:
50.09 East Med
19.12 West Asian
9.23 Red Sea
7.87 West Med
3.98 Atlantic
3.47 North Sea
1.53 South Asian
1.52 Eastern Euro
1.43 Baltic
0.71 Northeast African
0.35 Oceanian
0.23 Sub Saharan
0.23 Siberian
0.21 Southeast Asian
0.04 Amerindian

Lebanese Christian:
47.37 East Med
20.2 West Asian
12.34 Red Sea
11.81 West Med
2.78 Atlantic
1.49 North Sea
1.14 Baltic
0.87 Northeast African
0.77 South Asian
0.71 Eastern Euro
0.23 Southeast Asian
0.13 Oceanian
0.08 Siberian
0.05 Sub Saharan
0.03 Amerindian

Samaritan:
45.51 East Med
17.20 West Asian
13.84 Red Sea
13.52 West Med
3.28 Atlantic
2.32 Northeast African
1.59 Baltic
1.11 North Sea
0.92 South Asian
0.36 Eastern Euro
0.17 Oceanian
0.07 Southeast Asian
0.07 Siberian
0.03 Sub Saharan
0.01 Amerindian

Palestinian:
44.70 East Med
15.78 Red Sea
14.38 West Asian
8.23 West Med
5.12 Northeast African
4.13 Atlantic
1.87 North Sea
1.52 South Asian
1.42 Sub Saharan
1.14 Baltic
1.07 Eastern Euro
0.23 Southeast Asian
0.20 Amerindian
0.14 Siberian
0.09 Oceanian

Jordanian:
41.40 East Med
15.88 West Asian
14.64 Red Sea
8.08 West Med
7.07 Northeast African
3.09 Atlantic
2.43 Sub Saharan
2.00 North Sea
1.49 South Asian
1.41 Baltic
1.35 Eastern Euro
0.27 Southeast Asian
0.17 Siberian
0.35 Amerindian
0.37 Oceanian

Cypriots:
40.16 East Med
19.60 West Asian
16.00 West Med
8.38 Red Sea
7.08 Atlantic
3.11 Baltic
2.08 North Sea
1.81 Eastern Euro
0.52 South Asian
0.49 Northeast African
0.35 Sub Saharan
0.28 Oceanian
0.09 Siberian
0.05 Southeast Asian
0.01 Amerindian

Lebanese Muslim:
39.85 East Med
22.26 West Asian
10.71 Red Sea
5.62 Atlantic
2.43 North Sea
2.33 Northeast African
2.10 South Asian
2.09 Baltic
1.22 Eastern Euro
0.83 Sub Saharan
0.54 Oceanian
0.12 Southeast Asian
0.09 Siberian
0.04 Amerindian

Syrian:
38.31 East Med
20.38 West Asian
13.74 Red Sea
9.82 West Med
3.76 Atlantic
3.30 South Asian
3.20 Northeast African
2.29 North Sea
1.82 Baltic
1.59 Sub Saharan
0.94 Eastern Euro
0.36 Oceanian
0.20 Southeast Asian
0.19 Siberian
0.11 Amerindian

Sephardic Jewish:
33.88 East Med
16.21 West Med
14.02 Atlantic
13.51 West Asian
9.68 Red Sea
5.29 North Sea
2.36 Baltic
1.42 Eastern Euro
1.56 Northeast African
0.74 South Asian
0.43 Sub Saharan
0.38 Siberian
0.27 Southeast Asian
0.24 Oceanian
0.00 Amerindian

South Italian:
29.55 East Med
18.01 West Med
15.21 West Asian
14.02 Atlantic
8.26 North Sea
6.91 Red Sea
3.22 Baltic
1.99 Eastern Euro
1.53 Northeast African
0.55 South Asian
0.39 Sub Saharan
0.19 Oceanian
0.15 Southeast Asian
0.02 Amerindian
0.00 Siberian

Ashkenazi Jewish:
26.61 East Med
14.82 West Med
13.05 West Asian
10.70 Atlantic
9.89 North Sea
8.07 Red Sea
6.74 Baltic
5.17 Eastern Euro
1.63 Northeast African
1.20 South Asian
0.60 Southeast Asian
0.58 Siberian
0.39 Sub Saharan
0.32 Amerindian
0.24 Oceanian

Greek:
23.47 East Med
17.16 West Med
15.49 Atlantic
12.72 West Asian
11.70 Baltic
8.81 North Sea
6.91 Eastern Euro
2.73 Red Sea
0.41 South Asian
0.36 Oceanian
0.11 Northeast African
0.05 Southeast Asian
0.03 Amerindian
0.02 Sub Saharan
0.01 Siberian

Nope. You keep repeating this after I explained the Druze have Arab, and Iranian blood.

Just becuase the Druze religion sort of has an Iranian origin, doesn't mean they're actually mixed with Iranians. As posted above, they're definitely the quote-on-quote 'purest' Levantines.

And the Southwest Asian/Red Sea =/= Arabic/Arabian.
I know that. I said they had ARAB, and Iranian admixture. Cypriots, and Levantines are both European admixed, Cypriots just have more because they aren't mixed with Arabs like you.She's not 'mixed with Arabs'. Her Levantine side of the family is not even quote-on-quote 'Arabized'. Her maternal grandfather's family were Mizrahi Palestinians.
Then why do genetic tests show them to be around 43% SSA with the rest Southwest Asian? Ancient mixture.Very true. Most East African ethnicities are basically half Southwest Asian half East African on these tests. Southwest Asian peaks in Bedouins and East African peaks in Nilotics. So Horners are pretty much very ancient Bedouin/Nilotic hybrids whether people admit it or not.
Impossible. They would have close to 20% North European if that were true. Cypriots are even less European than Sephardic Jews.Possible. Cypriots and Sephardics cluster pretty close together on most of these tests.
Proof that Azkhenazi Jews and Siclians are essentially the closest to the original levantines.As you can see above, Ashkenazi and South Italian is only second lowest and third lowest respectively on my high East Med cluster scale that I have posted. So much for your invalid theory.
Samaritans are.Along with Lebanese, Druze, and Palestinians.:thumb001:
No they aren't. They have some Iranid and Arabid traits. Palestinian Christians less so, but I've seen ghassinind influence in some of them:blah:
The traits Samaritans have are indigenous to the Levant.Pretty much. Claiming any more or any less would only be false pretenses.
Most of it, but there's some Arabid and Iranid. Cypriots are the most representative, and thus so are Sicilians and the Azkhenazim. Deal with it!You are really butthurt, aren't you?!

[Stormer99]

According to the stats, Lebanese Druze, Lebanese Christian, and Samaritans are the most Levantine.

[Smeagol]

Possible. Cypriots and Sephardics cluster pretty close together on most of these tests.

Nope. Again, even South Greeks have 20% North European, while Cypriots only have about 3%, so that means Cypriots are less than 25% Greek at least.

[Maleficent]

Nope. Again, even South Greeks have 20% North European, while Cypriots only have about 3%, so that means Cypriots are less than 25% Greek at least.

Cypriots:
40.16 East Med
19.60 West Asian
16.00 West Med
8.38 Red Sea
7.08 Atlantic
3.11 Baltic
2.08 North Sea
1.81 Eastern Euro
0.52 South Asian
0.49 Northeast African
0.35 Sub Saharan
0.28 Oceanian
0.09 Siberian
0.05 Southeast Asian
0.01 Amerindian

Cypriots should at least 16% Greek with that West Med score. And if you add the Atlantic, Baltic, North Sea, and Eastern Euro; it's a total of 14.08% European besides West Med. So they should be at least 30.08%.....