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Loki
11-14-2013, 02:46 PM
China's Philippine aid controversy (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24938874)

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China has said it is sending $1.6m (£1m) to the Philippines to help with the aid effort following Typhoon Haiyan.

Beijing had been criticised for its initial pledge of $100,000 - a fraction of that committed by other major nations.

The offering from the world's second-largest economy, which came with another $100,000 from the Chinese Red Cross, prompted cries of protest from analysts and media in the West.

The Reuters news agency called it "relatively paltry"; Time Magazine described it as "measly" and "insulting".

True, China's initial donation paled beside the $20m given by the United States or the $10m pledged by Japan - or even the $2m donated by Indonesia.

But for all the global criticism, it didn't attract much attention at home. Most Beijing residents questioned about it said they hadn't heard about it and of those that had, only one thought the amount too small.

"It doesn't matter how much the donation is," one woman said, "it's the thought that counts."

"It's not too little," another man told me, "because we'll probably help with the reconstruction as well later on."

The Chinese government hinted early on that there might be more money in the pipeline. But even its new pledge of $1.6m is dwarfed by the contributions of Australia, New Zealand, South Korea and others.

And it stands in sharp contrast to China's other recent donations: over $10m for Japan in the wake of its tsunami two years ago and almost $40m for countries affected by the 2004 Asian tsunami.
'Politics and charity'

So why is China apparently more reticent about giving aid to the Philippines?

Part of it springs from the awkward politics of China's rise. Both countries are locked in a territorial dispute over islands in the South China Sea, which has worsened over the past year.

State media here has recently expended a lot of energy presenting the Philippines as hostile to Beijing, so China's aid to Manila has put nationalist newspapers here in the unusual position of guiding public opinion towards sympathy for the Philippines.

On the streets of Beijing, many seemed to understand the division between aid and politics.

"Personally I don't like the Philippines," one man told me, "we don't have a good relationship with them. But it's not about our relationship with the government, we only need to help the people."

"Politics and charity are two separate things," agreed another. "When we have problems, other countries help us, so we'll help them."

Comments on social media have been much more forceful. One netizen called China's donation "disgraceful[ly]" small, but many more say they are angry that their government is giving any money to the Philippine victims at all.

China's latest pledge of $1.6m still looks pointedly small besides its previous aid packages to other nations - even to Japan, with whom it is also squabbling over territory.

The foreign ministry has dropped into press briefings the observation that China, too, was a victim of Typhoon Haiyan. But with 10 dead and an estimated $734m of damage, China's loss does not diminish the impact of its message to Manila.

Loki
11-14-2013, 02:46 PM
Shame on China. It's an insult.

Grenzland
11-14-2013, 02:47 PM
:lol:

China <3 :D

Methmatician
11-14-2013, 02:55 PM
It's a shame that people now view donations as mandatory, like it's some sort of disaster tax :rolleyes2:

Loki
11-14-2013, 03:30 PM
It's a shame that people now view donations as mandatory, like it's some sort of disaster tax :rolleyes2:

China could afford to help, though. And they should. It's in their backyard.

SilverKnight
11-14-2013, 03:33 PM
Even my native country with a GDP of just roughly 60 billion can afford over million dollars in aid :laugh: what a joke China!

Grenzland
11-14-2013, 03:38 PM
China could afford to help, though. And they should. It's in their backyard.

Well China just doesn't like Philippine. Why should they support them?

SilverKnight
11-14-2013, 03:40 PM
Well China just doesn't like Philippine. Why should they support them?


Doesn't matter, is about the people, leave geo-politics aside and have some bit of empathy. :picard2:

Loki
11-14-2013, 03:42 PM
Well China just doesn't like Philippine. Why should they support them?

You're a filthy excuse for a human being. Please do us all a favour: don't have any children.

curupira
11-14-2013, 03:42 PM
Given the economic might of China, that "aid" sounds insulting indeed.

Grenzland
11-14-2013, 03:47 PM
You're a filthy excuse for a human being. Please do us all a favour: don't have any children.

Did I make you sad? :(

Chinas duty is to protect Chinese and their allies. Philippine didn't want to work with China so it's kind of logical.

Loki
11-14-2013, 03:48 PM
Did I make you sad? :(


No, you don't make me sad. You just disgust me.

Grenzland
11-14-2013, 03:50 PM
No, you don't make me sad. You just disgust me.

Then be a good Socialist and stop caring about individuals! :)

alb0zfinest
11-14-2013, 03:50 PM
It's a shame that people now view donations as mandatory, like it's some sort of disaster tax :rolleyes2:

You're right it isn't mandatory. But China sure likes receiving help (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_aid_to_China), meanwhile it doesn't care about helping other countries. Not just that but considering China's economical boom is coming from people that are buying their products (Which includes the Philippines) the least they could do is return the favor. I'm sure if China faced a terrible disaster right now, it sure as hell would not, mind accepting aid from others.

Loki
11-14-2013, 03:57 PM
Then be a good Socialist and stop caring about individuals! :)

I think I'll be a good socialist and get rid of you. You're just trolling my forum, and I see no good reason to keep you around.

Grenzland
11-14-2013, 04:05 PM
Sorry for my equal opinion, Mr. neutral "Egalitarianism" ... :lol:

Smaland
11-14-2013, 04:40 PM
If I were in the position of the Philippine government, I don't know if I would accept China's aid (and yes, their original offer was paltry) at all. China might offer its help only with strings attached.