Classify two new players in Spanish national football team

[Cristiano viejo]

Koke Resurreción

http://img.vavel.com/koke_757599522.jpg
http://estaticos04.marca.com/imagenes/2013/05/10/futbol/equipos/atletico/1368201721_extras_mosaico_noticia_1_1.jpg
http://www.colchonero.com/media/galeria/4/7/7/0/6/n_atletico_de_madrid_koke-3426077.jpg

Marc Bartra

http://www.blaugranas.com/media/galeria/25/8/9/0/7/n_f_c_barcelona_marc_bartra-5157098.jpg
http://img01.mundodeportivo.com/2012/11/05/Rueda-de-prensa-de-Marc-Bartra_54354853614_54115221154_600_396.jpg
http://img01.mundodeportivo.com/2012/09/25/Marc-Bartra-FOTO-Manel-Montill_54351824769_54115221152_960_640.jpg
http://www.blaugranas.com/media/galeria/25/6/1/0/9/n_f_c_barcelona_marc_bartra-5949016.jpeg

[Smyrnian]

i tihnk typical spanish people does not have real black hair,rather have dark brown(with shades to a lighter one)

[Sharkeatpeople]

Atlanto-Med - Dinarid.
Alpine-Atlantic.

[Tooting Carmen]

Both Atlanto-Meds.

[Ivan Kramskoï]

i tihnk typical spanish people does not have real black hair,rather have dark brown(with shades to a lighter one)
Agree,
you can't ealize how many people use the term "black" hair whereas it's dark brown :picard1:

[Smyrnian]

i can,just i wanted to express it,black is black,dark brown is dark brown...

[Canaan-84]

i tihnk typical spanish people does not have real black hair,rather have dark brown(with shades to a lighter one)


Agree,
you can't ealize how many people use the term "black" hair whereas it's dark brown :picard1:

Is there any evidence for this claim, if you research black hair you'll find that there are many different types of black hair. There's jet black, blue black, brown black, etc.

[gamusino]

i tihnk typical spanish people does not have real black hair,rather have dark brown(with shades to a lighter one)

most Spanish children have brown hair and light brown, almost blond, but with time darkens to look almost black.

http://fbstatic.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Equipo_bernabeuweb.jpg

http://img02.lavanguardia.com/2015/02/03/Aina-Manuel-Martina-y-Teresa-r_54425778190_54028874188_960_639.jpg

[Canaan-84]

most Spanish children have brown hair and light brown, almost blond, but with time darkens to look almost black.

http://fbstatic.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Equipo_bernabeuweb.jpg

http://img02.lavanguardia.com/2015/02/03/Aina-Manuel-Martina-y-Teresa-r_54425778190_54028874188_960_639.jpg

It would be nice if there were actual scientific studies on this because I've noticed that on many online forums like these the Greeks, spaniards and Italians always try to make it seem like black hair is non existent or extremely rare in those countries. I can understand if brown is the dominant color, but is black hair in Spain that rare that the hair color of soccer players like Sergio Busquets, Xavi Hernandez and David Villa an Anomaly?

[French fries]

AtlantoMed adn Berid.

[Green]

1º Atlanto med

2º mestizo

[observo]

i tihnk typical spanish people does not have real black hair,rather have dark brown(with shades to a lighter one)

None of those 2 players have black hair. They are very Brown hair. Even Raúl has a shade of Brown hair and is quite darker than these 2 guys
http://images.14ymedio.com/deportes/Gonzalez-American-Soccer-League-CC_CYMIMA20150308_0027_16.jpg

For Black hair: Xavi Hernández, Sergio Busquets, Guardiola o Sergio Dalma

[gamusino]

It would be nice if there were actual scientific studies on this because I've noticed that on many online forums like these the Greeks, spaniards and Italians always try to make it seem like black hair is non existent or extremely rare in those countries. I can understand if brown is the dominant color, but is black hair in Spain that rare that the hair color of soccer players like Sergio Busquets, Xavi Hernandez and David Villa an Anomaly?

it seems that they too were born "brown hair"

http://www.blaugranas.com/media/galeria/25/8/1/2/8/n_f_c_barcelona_xavi_hernandez-18218.jpg

http://images.teinteresa.es/deportes/Sergio-Busquets_TINIMA20121127_1298_5.jpg

http://comunidad.lne.es/servicios/galeriasMultimedia/media/14322/imagenes/1274270814732_01.jpg

[Canaan-84]

it seems that they too were born "brown hair"

http://www.blaugranas.com/media/galeria/25/8/1/2/8/n_f_c_barcelona_xavi_hernandez-18218.jpg

http://images.teinteresa.es/deportes/Sergio-Busquets_TINIMA20121127_1298_5.jpg

http://comunidad.lne.es/servicios/galeriasMultimedia/media/14322/imagenes/1274270814732_01.jpg

I see, but are you in agreement with the other member who stated that there are no Spaniards with black hair? I find that hard to believe considering the British are even lighter skin and they have people with black hair.

[spanish catalan]

koke: atlanto med dinarized
marc bartra(best defender of spain):berberid + atlanto med

[gamusino]

I see, but are you in agreement with the other member who stated that there are no Spaniards with black hair? I find that hard to believe considering the British are even lighter skin and they have people with black hair.

yes, this is a little strange. I wonder if they are born with this black hair.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/6e/f8/5c/6ef85cfcc9da2efc7e0b6d71a3f6e6b1.jpg

[Journeyman26]

Ugh not the black hair brown hair thing again. If your hair looks black unless it is in full sunlight people refer to it as black. For example.. my hair. If asked I just say its black... always sounds a bit try hard be like "its actually really really dark brown"

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=56562&d=1428442058

[Cristiano viejo]

koke: atlanto med dinarized
marc bartra(best defender of spain):berberid + atlanto med
Nothing Berberid in him, you would wish to try to relate your people with us.
Best defender of Spain my ass. He still is searching Gareth Bale hehe


I see, but are you in agreement with the other member who stated that there are no Spaniards with black hair? I find that hard to believe considering the British are even lighter skin and they have people with black hair.
Who does deny that there are black people in Spain??

[Canaan-84]

Nothing Berberid in him, you would wish to try to relate your people with us.
Best defender of Spain my ass. He still is searching Gareth Bale hehe


Who does deny that there are black people in Spain??

We're talking about black hair color not black people. A member in the first page said that Spanish people don't have black hair that it's really just very dark brown.

[Canaan-84]

Ugh not the black hair brown hair thing again. If your hair looks black unless it is in full sunlight people refer to it as black. For example.. my hair. If asked I just say its black... always sounds a bit try hard be like "its actually really really dark brown"

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=56562&d=1428442058

And like I mentioned before it can apparently reflect differently in light, I hate to use Wikipedia, but there really is almost no research it seems on this issue:

Wikipedia: "Black hair is the darkest color. It has large amounts of eumelanin and is less dense than other hair colors. It can range from brown-black, blue-black or jet-black.(citation needed)"

[spanish catalan]

berberid type is native from iberian peninsula
in the last ice age, cro magnon refugee in iberia and follow to north africa(iberomaurisian culture)

[Cristiano viejo]

berberid type is native from iberian peninsula
in the last ice age, cro magnon refugee in iberia and follow to north africa(iberomaurisian culture)
I dont believe in that theory, ie not for people of Iberian peninsula.

[spanish catalan]

I dont believe in that theory, ie not for people of Iberian peninsula.

native berbers is light,saharid follow in neolithic with capsian culture from east africa

[Cristiano viejo]

native berbers WERE light
It is very posible. But these people have nothing to do with the ancestors of the Spaniards. These people arrived to North Africa from Iberia and mixed with natives. What that mix got has nothing to do with us.

[Canaan-84]

it seems that they too were born "brown hair"

http://www.blaugranas.com/media/galeria/25/8/1/2/8/n_f_c_barcelona_xavi_hernandez-18218.jpg

http://images.teinteresa.es/deportes/Sergio-Busquets_TINIMA20121127_1298_5.jpg

http://comunidad.lne.es/servicios/galeriasMultimedia/media/14322/imagenes/1274270814732_01.jpg

Going back to this, even though it seems they were born with dark brown hair; it is now black. It's possible for hair color to change as one grows older and add sun light exposure.

I think the confusion here stems from people believing that true black hair only shines with a blue tint under certain lighting. However, as I mentioned before there are different types of black hair, I once posted photos of some European male models with black hair on another anthropology forum and the members there called their hair soft black.

This was the European model I posted: Barry Brosnan

Would you be in agreement with the members from that other anthropology forum who called his hair soft black?

http://images.castcall.blue-compass.com.s3.amazonaws.com/portfolioraw/838/838414.jpg

http://images.castcall.blue-compass.com.s3.amazonaws.com/portfolioraw/838/838415.jpg

PS - used a male because women tend to dye their hair far more often especially celebrities.

[Cristiano viejo]

More opinions, friends of Apricity?

[jmls]

Koke- Baskid+CM
Bartra- Atlanto-Med+CM