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Anglojew
11-20-2013, 01:10 AM
Immigrant parents should take more responsibility for stopping the wave of street crime sweeping Oslo, Norway's new prime minister has argued.
It looks like young gang members are behind most of this,” Erna Solberg told Dagsavisen newspaper on Monday. “I think the call from local parents to mobilize immigrant parents is important. We have to crack down on this, and parents in the immigrant community must also play their part.”

Oslo saw 120 robberies in October, more than any other city in Scandinavia. There were just 78 robberies recorded in Copenhagen and only 63 in Stockholm.

Politicians from the country's immigrant communities largely agreed that parents of young gang members, most of whom come from immigrant backgrounds, could do more.

"I think actually Erna's hit the nail on the head here," said Abid Raja from the Liberal Party. "It's time to get past worries over making immigrant parents feel stigmatized. It is mainly young people from immigrant community who commit these robberies."

http://www.thelocal.no/20131119/immigrant-parents-should-control-mugger-kids-norway-pm

Útrám
11-20-2013, 01:24 AM
It sounds like knighthood needs to be reconfered upon Breivik.

blogen
11-20-2013, 01:37 AM
Oslo saw 120 robberies in October

Jesus, what is happen in Norway? ~300 robberies happen annually in the whole Budapest region (3 million people!), while Oslo has 600 thousands inhabitants only, but 120 robberies happened under a month! This is an 1:24 proportion.

Anglojew
11-20-2013, 02:07 AM
Jesus, what is happen in Norway? ~300 robberies happen annually in the whole Budapest region (3 million people!), while Oslo has 600 thousands inhabitants only, but 120 robberies happened under a month! This is an 1:24 proportion.

Muslims happened.

blogen
11-20-2013, 02:20 AM
Muslims happened.

More than liberal laws happened. Do not blame the Muslims because of the liberal sins, not the Muslims reward the sins!

Justice in the islamic Iran:
Accused candy store robber's hand ordered cut off by Iranian judge. An Iranian judge has sentenced a man accused of stealing chocolate and cocoa from a candy shop to have his hand cut off, the semi-official Fars News Agency reported Saturday. (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/10/16/iran.amputation.sentence/)

Justice in the liberal Norway:
Four Muslims Gang-Rape a 12-Year-old Girl and Only Receive a Fine and Community Service. Four Muslim immigrants are sentenced to community service after repeated gang rape against a 12 year old girl in Namsos. Namdalingen Court finds that consideration was voluntary from 12-year-old’s side to have sex with four foreign boys, aged 15 to 18 years, at the same time. (http://www.fyret.nu/2013/01/26/4-utlendinger-gjengvoldtok-barneskoleelev-i-et-huskestativ-i-namsos/)

and if after all prison:
http://img.izismile.com/img/img5/20120629/640/luxurious_prison_in_norway_640_13.jpg
Luxurious prison in Norway (http://izismile.com/2012/06/29/luxurious_prison_in_norway_46_pics.html)

Anglojew
11-20-2013, 02:24 AM
More than liberal laws happened. Do not blame the Muslims because of the liberal sins, not the Muslims reward the sins!

Justice in the islamic Iran:
Accused candy store robber's hand ordered cut off by Iranian judge. An Iranian judge has sentenced a man accused of stealing chocolate and cocoa from a candy shop to have his hand cut off, the semi-official Fars News Agency reported Saturday. (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/10/16/iran.amputation.sentence/)

Justice in the liberal Norway:
Four Muslims Gang-Rape a 12-Year-old Girl and Only Receive a Fine and Community Service. Four Muslim immigrants are sentenced to community service after repeated gang rape against a 12 year old girl in Namsos. Namdalingen Court finds that consideration was voluntary from 12-year-old’s side to have sex with four foreign boys, aged 15 to 18 years, at the same time. (http://www.fyret.nu/2013/01/26/4-utlendinger-gjengvoldtok-barneskoleelev-i-et-huskestativ-i-namsos/)

and if after all prison:
http://img.izismile.com/img/img5/20120629/640/luxurious_prison_in_norway_640_13.jpg
Luxurious prison in Norway (http://izismile.com/2012/06/29/luxurious_prison_in_norway_46_pics.html)

Light sentences are another symptom of the same disease as mass immigration and multicultulturalism.

Útrám
11-20-2013, 02:29 AM
Do not blame the Muslims because of the liberal sins, not the Muslims reward the sins!


"Do not blame the burglar, blame the manufacturer for producing a bad lock."

Baluarte
11-20-2013, 02:31 AM
Justice in the liberal Norway:
Four Muslims Gang-Rape a 12-Year-old Girl and Only Receive a Fine and Community Service. Four Muslim immigrants are sentenced to community service after repeated gang rape against a 12 year old girl in Namsos. Namdalingen Court finds that consideration was voluntary from 12-year-old’s side to have sex with four foreign boys, aged 15 to 18 years, at the same time. (http://www.fyret.nu/2013/01/26/4-utlendinger-gjengvoldtok-barneskoleelev-i-et-huskestativ-i-namsos/)

and if after all prison:
http://img.izismile.com/img/img5/20120629/640/luxurious_prison_in_norway_640_13.jpg
Luxurious prison in Norway (http://izismile.com/2012/06/29/luxurious_prison_in_norway_46_pics.html)

What a servile society. Rewarding criminality and embodying weakness.

Methmatician
11-20-2013, 02:32 AM
Light sentences are another symptom of the same disease as mass immigration and multicultulturalism.
Changes in judicial punishment are unrelated to mass immigration and multiculturalism :picard2: Countries have been experimenting with different methods of punishment for centuries.

Shah-Jehan
11-20-2013, 02:32 AM
There's over a million Muslims in Canada,a country with very lax laws...yet crimes are not done by Muslims...? Why?

Baluarte
11-20-2013, 02:33 AM
"Do not blame the burglar, blame the manufacturer for producing a bad lock."

I know how fond North Euros are of neocon logic. But here's a quick question: Is "Muslim" a real social category? Blogen's Iranian example is relevant.

Food for thought.

blogen
11-20-2013, 02:34 AM
"Do not blame the burglar, blame the manufacturer for producing a bad lock."

The crime is the society's construction, there are not natural crimes. The society deter from the crime with the punishment. If there is not a proper punishment then the crime will rage.

Shah-Jehan
11-20-2013, 02:36 AM
I know how fond North Euros are of neocon logic. But here's a quick question: Is "Muslim" a real social category? Blogen's Iranian example is relevant.

Food for thought.

I actually steal something from Canada every day, rather borrowed, free Oxygen;)

Methmatician
11-20-2013, 02:37 AM
I actually steal something from Canada every day, rather borrowed, free Oxygen;)
Does Canada have a carbon tax?

Útrám
11-20-2013, 02:38 AM
There's over a million Muslims in Canada,a country with very lax laws...yet crimes are not done by Muslims...? Why?

Because Canada has rather limited humanitarian immigration; their prerequisites for entry are high. Europe's low standards are granting entry to anyone, including the worst.

Shah-Jehan
11-20-2013, 02:41 AM
Because Canada has rather limited humanitarian immigration; their prerequisites for entry are high. Europe's low standards are granting entry to anyone, including the worst.

Apply your logic from the previous post to this and the outcome is not "muslims are criminals"

iNird
11-20-2013, 02:44 AM
What a servile society. Rewarding criminality and embodying weakness.

The issue is not the system but the foreigners that take advantage the system.

Baluarte
11-20-2013, 02:47 AM
The issue is not the system but the foreigners that take advantage the system.

In other words: The criminals are more cunning/resourceful than the system. It's entirely their fault for failing to cope with the challenge.
It's folly to expect everyone to behave and "never take advantage" of anything.
It's logic to prevent and ensure law enforcement through coherent use of force.

Anglojew
11-20-2013, 02:50 AM
Not all Muslims are criminals but they're over represented in crime statistics in Europe. That's just a fact.

Baluarte
11-20-2013, 02:54 AM
Not all Muslims are criminals but they're over represented in crime statistics in Europe. That's just a fact.

Agreed. Different ethnicities are more or less represented in particular sectors and crimes.

For example, in France, the overwhelming majority of street dealers are either Subsaharan (black) or Maghrebian. If you go out to buy hash in banlieu, chances are you'll hardly ever see a native Frenchman dealer. Makes sense considering how dirt poor and alienated these people are. They're more prone to this sort of petty crime.

Likewise, the representation of Jews in the financial scandals of the last decade is incredibly high, including the fiat currency scheme. Not only specific names like Bernie Madoff, Alan Greenspan or Ben Shalom Bernanke, but also institutions like Goldman Sachs. Even if not all Jews are this, their value system and social position makes them more prone to it.

Anglojew
11-20-2013, 02:58 AM
Agreed. Different ethnicities are more or less represented in particular sectors and crimes.

For example, in France, the overwhelming majority of street dealers are either Subsaharan (black) or Maghrebian. If you go out to buy hash in banlieu, chances are you'll hardly ever see a native Frenchman dealer. Makes sense considering how dirt poor and alienated these people are. They're more prone to this sort of petty crime.

Likewise, the representation of Jews in the financial scandals of the last decade is incredibly high, including the fiat currency scheme. Not only specific names like Bernie Madoff, Alan Greenspan or Ben Shalom Bernanke, but also institutions like Goldman Sachs. Even if not all Jews are this, their value system and social position makes them more prone to it.

I'm not a fan of modern capitalism, and I'd personally reverse the Western "cultural revolution" of the 1960s to a great deal, but neither Alan Greenspan nor Ben Bernanke have been implicated, charged or convicted of any crime. Your just throwing accusations around.

Baluarte
11-20-2013, 03:06 AM
But neither Alan Greenspan nor Ben Bernanke have been implicated, charged or convicted of any crime. Your just throwing accusations around.

Bernanke is the architect of all the quantitative easing policy that we've had since the last financial crisis.
Greenspan is responsible for a fair number of banking deregularizations.

They haven't been convicted of any charges by the US Judiciary. Neither has Hank Paulson. Doesn't change the fact they're all corrupt crooks working for the bankster oligarchy.

Útrám
11-20-2013, 03:14 AM
It's just a matter of time before these weak, docile and appeasing liberal societies will be erased.
The process of natural selection applies to memes much as it applies to genes; and it dictates that at the end of the day leftoid tolerance of all the clashes that it inadvertently incites and nourishes won't be around for too long.

The only hope I have is that the European comes out victorious against the MENA alien.