Rate these REAL women

[Mary]

I think it's time for you to see what real women look like. I'm using Aletta Ocean as a benchmark 10. Please rate,



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1,


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/21/article-2511403-1991511F00000578-752_634x732.jpg http://www.topstarcelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Aleta-Ocean-twitter-13.jpg


2,


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/21/article-2511403-1991508C00000578-13_634x806.jpg http://www.topstarcelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Aleta-Ocean-twitter-13.jpg


3,


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/21/article-2511403-1991510B00000578-165_634x867.jpg http://www.topstarcelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Aleta-Ocean-twitter-13.jpg


4,


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/21/article-2511403-199150DF00000578-633_634x858.jpg http://www.topstarcelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Aleta-Ocean-twitter-13.jpg


5,


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/21/article-2511403-199150F000000578-70_306x676.jpg http://www.topstarcelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Aleta-Ocean-twitter-13.jpg


6,


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/21/article-2511403-1991509400000578-209_306x676.jpg http://www.topstarcelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Aleta-Ocean-twitter-13.jpg

[Aerin]

The last one is not that bad. She's a 6.5.

[Queen B]

Real equals fat? :confused:

[Armand_Duval]

The last one is not that bad. She's a 6.5.

Yeah I agree, the last one is the only one who passes the test with maybe a 7 as much, the others are completely flunk....

[Mary]

Real equals fat? :confused:

These women are US size 14 and up,


In a bid to celebrate 'real beauty' without the magic of Photoshop, a plus-size lingerie store is asking women who are U.S. size 14 or up to post 'sexy' selfies on its Facebook page.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2511403/Plus-size-women-post-photos-Curvy-Girl-Lingerie-celebrate-real-beauty.html

That is the average size in the US,


Despite the fact that the average American woman is now a size 14

http://fashionista.com/2013/08/why-is-it-so-difficult-for-the-average-american-woman-to-shop-for-clothes/


To whit, the “average” American women now wears a size 14 (with “plus-sizes, often classified as 14 to 34, account(ing) for 67 percent of the population)

http://www.businessinsider.com/why-isnt-plus-size-bigger-2012-12

A lot of them are US size 16,


57% of U.S. women wear at least some clothing in sizes 16 and above.

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/6/prweb10813260.htm

[Queen B]

These women are US size 14,

They are fat. They are not even chubby like the one's in Dove's (http://www.mamapop.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Dove_Real_Beauty.jpg) adv

[Mary]

They are fat. They are not even chubby like the one's in Dove's (http://www.mamapop.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Dove_Real_Beauty.jpg) adv

They're the average size in the US. That's what normal women look like.

[Stefan_Dusan]

Yeah I agree, the last one is the only one who passes the test with maybe a 7 as much, the others are completely flunk....

As much as a 7 :D The girls is at least an 8 maybe a 9. Just look at that body, curvy, feminine and sultry. The first picture is not good one because her hair is up (most women don't look good with their hair up or pulled back). Just take look at second picture. Internet standards are too tough sometimes, you know you'd impress that girl into your bed and love doing it :P

[armenianbodyhair]

They're the average size in the US. That's what normal women look like.

So am I not normal or REAL because I am not size 14 or bigger?

[Stefan_Dusan]

They're the average size in the US. That's what normal women look like.

They are fat even for USA standards, where do you live North Dakota?

[Armand_Duval]

As much as a 7 :D The girls is at least an 8 maybe a 9. Just look at that body, curvy, feminine and sultry. The first picture is not good one because her hair is up (most women don't look good with their hair up or pulled back). Just take look at second picture. Internet standards are too tough sometimes, you know you'd impress that girl into your bed and love doing it :P

Personally I prefer thinner women but I woudnt say no to her either....:thumb001:

[Loki]

Mary, these are fat American bitches. Women in England look a lot different. And yes, real English women.

[Mary]

Mary, these are fat American bitches. Women in England look a lot different. And yes, real English women.

Lol at fat American bitches. :laugh2: Some people were complaining that I was only posting porn stars so I decided to post some average American women.

[Kazimiera]

:shocked:

Is this really "normal" in the US??

This is scary!

[arcticwolf]

I like slender women, fat turns me off big time.

thereare plenty of fit women in tye US, but it's a fact there are too many plump ones.

[Rudel]

They're the average size in the US. That's what normal women look like.
That's what fat-asses look like, because Americans are fat as fuck.

And your 10 is piss poor.

[Queen B]

They're the average size in the US. That's what normal women look like.
So because of USA, the most obese country in the world, is what women look like?
If this is real, what am I? Anorexic? :picard2:
Lol at fat American bitches. :laugh2: Some people were complaining that I was only posting porn stars so I decided to post some average American women.
Why don't you ask from those who complain to give you photos of real women?

[Mary]

So because of USA, the most obese country in the world, is what women look like?
If this is real, what am I? Anorexic? :picard2:

The US is a good benchmark because they are a mix of a lot of European ethnicities.

The women on the pictures are size 14 and up. 67% of US women are 14 and up,


The potential market is worth chasing because the average American woman is a size 14, and plus-sizes, often classified as 14 to 34, account for 67 percent of the population, according to Houston-based Plunkett Research.

http://www.denverpost.com/athome/ci_21572251/demand-from-plus-size-women-spawns-new-fashion

A majority wears 16 and up,


57% of U.S. women wear at least some clothing in sizes 16 and above.

http://www.modcloth.com/about_us/press-release--june-14-2013?SSAID=389818&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=sas&utm_campaign=389818&utm_content=417942&gate=false

If you line up 10 women 7 out of them will look this way,


http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/323201/slide_323201_3064046_free.jpg?1383061903444


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/29/pulp-fashion-week-plus-size-models_n_4174158.html


Why don't you ask from those who complain to give you photos of real women?

It's mostly guys and they don't know what real women look like because they haven't seen a lot of real women naked. Most guys think that an average woman looks like this,


http://crossfitkillers.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/jon_krupa_lingerie_model_6_big.jpg


If she's plus sized she looks something like this,


http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1721129.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Curvy%20Laura%20Butler-1721129.jpg


In Sweden this would be average,


NSFW

http://img164.imagevenue.com/loc119/th_204960125_om_123_119lo.jpg (http://img164.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=204960125_om_123_119lo.jpg)


When I was in high school most girls in my class (teenagers) looked this way. The only thing that varied was the breast size.


This would be thin,


NSFW

http://img297.imagevenue.com/loc83/th_204959637_80_123_83lo.jpg (http://img297.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=204959637_80_123_83lo.jpg)


In my high school a few girls looked this way. They were the top 20%.

The point is that guys have no idea what women look like naked.

[Mary]

I found another pic. that's representative for Swedish women, it was published in a major daily newspaper,

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http://www.expressen.se/halsa/tre-kvinnor-om-sina-kroppar/


Vi träffade tre vanliga kvinnor som är nöjda med sina kroppar.

"We met three regular women that are happy with their bodies".

This is what grown women look like. The first one is slender, the second one is average-a bit full and the third one is skinny.

[Dandelion]

Number 6 looks rather nice.

[Dandelion]

The last one is not that bad. She's a 6.5.

I'd say 7.5. All the rest are 2's and 3's (wouldn't even poke with a ten-foot pole).

[Dandelion]

I found another pic. that's representative for Swedish women, it was published in a major daily newspaper,

NSFW

http://www.expressen.se/halsa/tre-kvinnor-om-sina-kroppar/



"We met three regular women that are happy with their bodies".

This is what grown women look like. The first one is slender, the second one is average-a bit full and the third one is skinny.

However, 'real women' who look at least half-decent, often don't need confirmation (hence you often see uglier desperate women posing naked in women's magazines).
It's a different kind of nude modelling than those women who just do it for money or fun and who realise they look stunning already.

[Peyrol]

Real women?

Those are disgusting women, not real...ok some curves, but not a caravan of lard...

[Mary]

Number 6 looks rather nice.

Compare,

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/21/article-2511403-1991509400000578-209_306x676.jpg http://img275.imagevenue.com/loc189/th_221797655_001_123_189lo.jpg (http://img275.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=221797655_001_123_189lo.jpg)

[Dandelion]

Compare,

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/21/article-2511403-1991509400000578-209_306x676.jpg http://img275.imagevenue.com/loc189/th_221797655_001_123_189lo.jpg (http://img275.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=221797655_001_123_189lo.jpg)

I still prefer the upper one. Very nice body and pretty face. However, both at once would be better of course.

[Mary]

However, 'real women' who look at least half-decent, often don't need confirmation (hence you often see uglier desperate women posing naked in women's magazines).
It's a different kind of nude modelling than those women who just do it for money or fun and who realise they look stunning already.

Can you show me a picture of a woman that you consider half-decent?

[Acquisitor]

The last one is not that bad. She's a 6.5.

I disagree, I'd say they are all incredibly ugly

[Mary]

Real women?

Those are disgusting women, not real...ok some curves, but not a caravan of lard...

Can you post a pic. (dressed) of what you consider an average woman?

[Mary]

I disagree, I'd say they are all incredibly ugly

That's what average/regular women look like.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Mary is a half wit

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1F-Np3OiGv8/T44MW5QG1_I/AAAAAAAABes/MHzC7iOO9y4/s1600/Size%2B8%2B12%2B16.jpg

Size 14 isn't shockingly fat.

[Peyrol]

Can you post a pic. (dressed) of what you consider an average woman?


The american western actress Claudia Cardinale would be a good example

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfu4hicjaM1qeax82o1_500.jpg

http://www.classicdriver.com/sites/default/files/styles/colorbox/public/import/articlesv2/images/_uk/16998/claudia_cardinale_02pop.jpg?itok=55noSOja

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-x2ZkgLAf-Hk/T_K6DJgAIeI/AAAAAAAAAKU/PYi0feOMX28/s640/claudia-cardinalej.jpg

[Acquisitor]

That's what average/regular women look like.

I disagree, maybe you mean "that's what average ugly/worthless women look like" ?

average women take care of themselves and if they notice they are turning into such disgusting sacks of greasy fat, they quickly adjust their eating habits and even go to a gym or bike riding.

[Melina]

O boy would I make them do insanity with me.

http://www.chicagonow.com/gladly-gluten-free/files/2012/06/insanity_shaunT.jpg

[Dandelion]

Can you show me a picture of a woman that you consider half-decent?

Half-decent isn't as flattering as a way to describe a woman that's sexually attractive. I used that word in contrast with the ugly ones you posted as example (an average woman tends to look a lot better).

I could post pictures of any woman on any context. On my hard disc too many of them are from erotic sites (a different type of erotic than what you prefer; natural type) and it's hard seeing the trees in the forest with so many attractive women in the world I don't even know where to begin (as I don't photograph the plethora of attractive women I see in real life).

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7DyBaZPcKHs/UFMQbscJ6GI/AAAAAAAAE7Y/O_jddRLlI_k/s640/Dress-in-Sizes2_04.jpg

[Dandelion]

The american western actress Claudia Cardinale would be a good example

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfu4hicjaM1qeax82o1_500.jpg

http://www.classicdriver.com/sites/default/files/styles/colorbox/public/import/articlesv2/images/_uk/16998/claudia_cardinale_02pop.jpg?itok=55noSOja

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-x2ZkgLAf-Hk/T_K6DJgAIeI/AAAAAAAAAKU/PYi0feOMX28/s640/claudia-cardinalej.jpg

Yeah, you posted a celeb. However, plenty of non-celebs that look natural and are stunning as hell of course (instead of looking like a 'bangbros ho').

Women between adolescence to menopause that are attractive are common. The 5 ugly ones Mary posted, however, are what I'd classify as belonging to the 'ugly'-most 10% rather than average. ;)

[Dandelion]

I don't get it what some people see in number 6 as ugly. Is it something I'm blind toward, or is it just a different taste?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/21/article-2511403-1991509400000578-209_306x676.jpg

She's above average IMO.

[Mary]

The american western actress Claudia Cardinale would be a good example

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfu4hicjaM1qeax82o1_500.jpg

http://www.classicdriver.com/sites/default/files/styles/colorbox/public/import/articlesv2/images/_uk/16998/claudia_cardinale_02pop.jpg?itok=55noSOja

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-x2ZkgLAf-Hk/T_K6DJgAIeI/AAAAAAAAAKU/PYi0feOMX28/s640/claudia-cardinalej.jpg

No. She's way above average,


http://seagy99.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/claudia-cardinale.jpg


She's model material. She's probably in the top 15%. That means 85% of women are uglier/fatter than her. In your high school class there might be one woman that is like her, if you're lucky.

The average looks like this,


In Sweden this would be average,


NSFW

http://img164.imagevenue.com/loc119/th_204960125_om_123_119lo.jpg (http://img164.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=204960125_om_123_119lo.jpg)


When I was in high school most girls in my class (teenagers) looked this way. The only thing that varied was the breast size.


This would be thin,


NSFW

http://img297.imagevenue.com/loc83/th_204959637_80_123_83lo.jpg (http://img297.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=204959637_80_123_83lo.jpg)


In my high school a few girls looked this way. They were the top 20%.

What you see above is 90% of young women. Probably up to age 30.

[Mary]

I disagree, maybe you mean "that's what average ugly/worthless women look like" ?

average women take care of themselves and if they notice they are turning into such disgusting sacks of greasy fat, they quickly adjust their eating habits and even go to a gym or bike riding.

No. The top 15% of women do that. The rest do turn into "disgusting sacks of greasy fat". Not when they're old but already as teenagers. Remember, I went to high school with Swedish women. I've seen hundreds of teenage girls naked. They look like the examples I posted before.

[Mary]

Half-decent isn't as flattering as a way to describe a woman that's sexually attractive. I used that word in contrast with the ugly ones you posted as example (an average woman tends to look a lot better).

I could post pictures of any woman on any context. On my hard disc too many of them are from erotic sites (a different type of erotic than what you prefer; natural type) and it's hard seeing the trees in the forest with so many attractive women in the world I don't even know where to begin (as I don't photograph the plethora of attractive women I see in real life).

What you see above IS average. This is what you'll see in the girls' locker room.

Just post anything you think is normal.

[Dandelion]

Some women do turn into monstrosities once they pinned down a man by marrying him and having a child or several children with him. They become fat and cut their hair short as well. Usually it's interesting to look at the mother of the young woman you're dating and observe whether she has a similar personality or lifestyle. It's often a great warning about how/what she is about to become in the future.

[Acquisitor]

Mary lets be clear: overly obese and disgusting women have NO self respect at all (unless they are ill and being fat is the only possible way for them to be).

do you really think men should respect or desire people who lack even the basic self respect ? just wonder what you think about this

personally I'd by far prefer my hand to any of the five chicks in the OP, maybe except for the last one, but I wouldnt be overly excited to do her either.

[Mary]

Yeah, you posted a celeb. However, plenty of non-celebs that look natural and are stunning as hell of course (instead of looking like a 'bangbros ho').

Women between adolescence to menopause that are attractive are common. The 5 ugly ones Mary posted, however, are what I'd classify as belonging to the 'ugly'-most 10% rather than average. ;)

No that's 90% of women. I repeat: that's what the average woman looks like. The worst 10% is not something you want to see.

[Dandelion]

Just post anything you think is normal.

(Above) average looking women (not my favourite, just at random)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3276/2735547580_672453e7f3.jpg

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag111/jujimbo/01_zpsded25333.jpg

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag111/jujimbo/sos001ECA_272859003_zps25cb1ee1.jpg

[Mary]

I don't get it what some people see in number 6 as ugly. Is it something I'm blind toward, or is it just a different taste?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/21/article-2511403-1991509400000578-209_306x676.jpg

She's above average IMO.

The fat is pouring out of her top. I think she's wearing a girdle underneath. If she wasn't horrible she'd show her entire body.

[Empecinado]

Some women do turn into monstrosities one's they pinned down a man by marrying him and having a child or several children with him. They become fat and cut their hair short as well. Usually it's interesting to look at the mother of the young woman you're dating and observe whether she has a similar personality or lifestyle. It's often a great warning about how/what she is about to become in the future.

That's called the pop-corn effect.

[Mary]

Some women do turn into monstrosities one's they pinned down a man by marrying him and having a child or several children with him. They become fat and cut their hair short as well. Usually it's interesting to look at the mother of the young woman you're dating and observe whether she has a similar personality or lifestyle. It's often a great warning about how/what she is about to become in the future.

As I said they look this way already in high school. This is what most girls in my high school class looked like, and worse. Everything you see in the media is top 15%.

[Dandelion]

As I said they look this way already in high school. This is what most girls in my high school class looked like, and worse. Everything you see in the media is top 15%.

There are many ugly women, yes indeed, however I disagree with your percentages.

[Mary]

Mary lets be clear: overly obese and disgusting women have NO self respect at all (unless they are ill and being fat is the only possible way for them to be).

do you really think men should respect or desire people who lack even the basic self respect ? just wonder what you think about this

personally I'd by far prefer my hand to any of the five chicks in the OP, maybe except for the last one, but I wouldnt be overly excited to do her either.

I'm not saying that this is what average chicks should look like, according to political correctness. I'm saying that this is what average chicks do look like because I have seen it myself. If you'd walk into the girls' locker room you would see the women that I have posted. That's pretty much the only type of woman you will see in the girls' locker room in high school. If you go to a swimming hall you will see much worse than I have posted here because there are women there who are over 25.

[Dandelion]

The fat is pouring out of her top. I think she's wearing a girdle underneath. If she wasn't horrible she'd show her entire body.

She's not fat, but chubby. She has the body allowing her to be like she is. She also has curves (a wide hips and a great bust size). I doubt she'd be a disappointment naked. Well, we can agree to disagree of course.

[Dandelion]

That's called the pop-corn effect.

Such women I tend to avoid. And I'm not a male hypocrite, because I would have started working out in their place. For instance, the fact I got too skinny is also the reason I quit smoking cold turkey where other people would just carry on their bad unhealthy habit.

[Mary]

(Above) average looking women (not my favourite, just at random)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3276/2735547580_672453e7f3.jpg

This is a regular model. She's trying to look amateur. She's way above average. She's in the top 15%.


http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag111/jujimbo/01_zpsded25333.jpg

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag111/jujimbo/sos001ECA_272859003_zps25cb1ee1.jpg

They're pretty plus size models and in the top 20%. 80% of women are uglier than these.

All the women you posted here are models they're not regular women. It's the same thing as if you would have posted Kate Moss or Claudia Schiffer.

[Dandelion]

This is a regular model. She's trying to look amateur. She's way above average. She's in the top 15%.



They're pretty plus size models and in the top 20%. 80% of women are uglier than these.

All the women you posted here are models they're not regular women. It's the same thing as if you would have posted Kate Moss or Claudia Schiffer.

They are indeed among the most attractive (hence I added above before average on second thought after editing).

Here's another one (amateur erotic mature).

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag111/jujimbo/1430127706_zps08fc0483.jpg

She has the sexual prowess (which increases attractiveness), admittedly, but she's an example of an average looking mature woman.

[Mary]

There are many ugly women, yes indeed, however I disagree with your percentages.

These are not ugly women. You have not seen ugly women. The women you have seen are the girls in the locker room. The ugly women don't change with these women that I have posted. They're so horrible that the women that I posted don't want to see them. They are the bottom 10%. They make these women look attractive.

Look I'm a woman I'm the one who has seen lots of women naked. So I'm telling you the percentages from experience. You're telling me percentages from how you think it is but you haven't actually seen it. You get the percentages from women that you see on TV. Those are the top 15% they are not average women. If you watch a TV show and see a woman you think is average she's actually top 15%. The women that you see on the street look like the women I have posted under their clothing.

[Dandelion]

Well, do these 'average' women you post also avoid the beach for obvious reasons then? I'm still calling nonsense, because you know how a woman's body like even when clothed. You posted blubbertubs that often look ugly clothed as well and my eyes don't see less than yours in that regard.

[Acquisitor]

I'm not saying that this is what average chicks should look like, according to political correctness. I'm saying that this is what average chicks do look like because I have seen it myself. If you'd walk into the girls' locker room you would see the women that I have posted. That's pretty much the only type of woman you will see in the girls' locker room in high school. If you go to a swimming hall you will see much worse than I have posted here because there are women there who are over 25.

I do see such prime examples of the female race here and there, but I still refuse to believe that an average female looks like this by the time she is 30.

I fail to see any sexual attraction in the five examples in the OP. Adding their lack of self respect I'd say my sexual attraction towards them is even negative, meaning that the idea of doing anything with them would not appeal to my libido in any way, but would rather decrease my libido and would make my own hand look more and more attractive.

if some men who dont generally like fat/misformed females are forced to take them under the society's pressure then its their problem.

[Baldur]

lol who are you to decide what girls are ugly or not? Doesn't make any sense?

[Empecinado]

Such women I tend to avoid. And I'm not a male hypocrite, because I would have started working out in their place. For instance, the fact I got too skinny is also the reason I quit smoking cold turkey where other people would just carry on their bad unhealthy habit.

Same here. I'm naturally skinny and I solved it through a discipline based on a lot of exercise and a high carbs diet, so I would not date a woman who is unable to leave out her bad habits and follow a discipline, not just because the physical aspect but also because denotes a carefree mind and unable of taking responsibility, that is a source of problems.

[Mary]

They are indeed among the most attractive (hence I added above before average on second thought after editing).

Here's another one (amateur erotic mature).

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag111/jujimbo/1430127706_zps08fc0483.jpg

It's a professional porn star. She's in the top 10%. You will almost never see a woman like that in the girls' locker room. If you think she is average you are deluded.

Look at this picture,


NSFW

http://amateurfapland.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/curvy-short-blonde-teen-hottie-before-and-after.jpg

This is slightly above average, she would even be considered kind of slender. In the dressed picture she has an average "cute" face, big boobs and what some would call a "sexy" outfit. Her clothes are pretty skin tight. Pretty okay girlfriend material, right guys? :laugh:

In the undressed picture you can see all her fat, her boobs... are you still looking at the picture? Keep looking! This body is above average. She belongs to the top 20%. That means that 80% of women out there are uglier/fatter than her. This girl is quite unusual in the girls' locker room because of her "slender" figure. Most women are fatter than her.

[Dandelion]

Where's Borat for help installing a camera in the girls' locker room? ;)

[Mary]

Well, do these 'average' women you post also avoid the beach for obvious reasons then? I'm still calling nonsense, because you know how a woman's body like even when clothed. You posted blubbertubs that often look ugly clothed as well and my eyes don't see less than yours in that regard.

The women that do go to the beach are the top 15%. Most average women do not go to the beach, and if they do, they do not wear a bikini. Usually they will avoid the beach all together. So what you see on the beach is not the average woman. It's the most attractive women.

Clothing is not the same as naked. You will be able to tell that the bottom 10% super ugly/fat women are fat underneath their clothing, but not just how ugly they are. With average women you will not be able to tell. Even clothing that is seemingly minimalist and skin tight can hide a lot. Women can use push up bras, girdles, butt shaping jeans and panties and so on. Look at my previous post with the dressed/undressed woman.

[Acquisitor]

Mary quick question here (one off topic reaction): my 23andme revealed I'm only 28.4% ashkenazi, the rest is russian, serbian, some finnish and a touch of yakut, am I still a jew on the race ladder :D ? (one reaction plz)

[Mary]

I do see such prime examples of the female race here and there, but I still refuse to believe that an average female looks like this by the time she is 30.

This is a very common body type for women 15-25. At least 50% of women look like this,


NSFW

http://www.amiacutie.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/cute_chubby_coed_08.jpg


When this woman is past 25 she will look something like this,


NSFW

http://nudecurvygirlfriends.pbhst.com/files/2013/04/next-door-bbw-blonde-catched-on-cam-with-her-nude-boobs-and-curvy-body.jpg


This is a common body type for women that are 25-40. About 30% of women in this age group look like this.



I fail to see any sexual attraction in the five examples in the OP. Adding their lack of self respect I'd say my sexual attraction towards them is even negative, meaning that the idea of doing anything with them would not appeal to my libido in any way, but would rather decrease my libido and would make my own hand look more and more attractive.

if some men who dont generally like fat/misformed females are forced to take them under the society's pressure then its their problem.

These girls are slender, this is what my slender class mates looked like when we were teenagers,


NSFW

http://mixedsluts.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/photo-Amateur-65092794.jpg

http://amateurhomeporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/photo-Amateur-893551577.jpg

http://dreams-babe.info/wp-content/main/2010_06/free_amateur_porn_bitches_nude_ugly_tits.jpg

https://smutty.com/media_smutty/n/o/i/d/p/noid-63z2p-0bf8ac.jpg


This is 10% of all teenage girls.


This is average,


NSFW

http://fap.to/images/full/44/110/1101662179.jpg

http://sexcolection.com/thumbs1/w190h250/125/e4fe989f26b0aaa19df7a46d455b5/o20_1.jpg

http://nudecurvygirlfriends.pbhst.com/files/2013/04/amateur-bbw-babe-with-tattoo-on-her-hand-in-on-her-chest-washing-her-chubby-cunt.jpg


I would say about 30% of women 15-25 look this way.


This is the next 30%, this is still within average range from 15-25,


NSFW

http://amateurnudebbws.cabhst.com/files/2013/07/amateur-bbw-girlfriend-self-shot-her-very-big-boobs-in-a-mirror.jpg

http://www.sbfhst.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/138/2013/02/amateur-redhead-bbw-babe-posing-nude-and-shows-her-big-boobs.jpg

http://realbbwamateurs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/tn45.jpg


This is 70% of all women 15-25.

After this you have the bottom 20% which you don't want to see. And the top 10% of hot chicks. This is some models and random porn stars.

When you go past 25 it looks totally different you don't want to see it.

[Mary]

Where's Borat for help installing a camera in the girls' locker room? ;)

Trust me you don't want that. It doesn't look like on the porn sites.

[Mary]

Mary quick question here (one off topic reaction): my 23andme revealed I'm only 28.4% ashkenazi, the rest is russian, serbian, some finnish and a touch of yakut, am I still a jew on the race ladder :D ? (one reaction plz)

Yes. Post in the race ladder thread. :)

[Acquisitor]

Yes. Post in the race ladder thread. :)

done

[morski]

Mary is spot on once again.

[Szegedist]

In reality, a normal or average woman does not look like that.

[Mary]

If you have ever watched amateur porn or seen amateur nudes and thought that those were actual amateur chicks you are greatly mistaken. Actual amateurs will make want to claw your eyes out. The amateur porn that you see is still top 10% of women.

Everything you thought you knew about women's looks is a lie. Your future girlfriend will probably look like some of the women I have posted here.

[Acquisitor]

If you have ever watched amateur porn or seen amateur nudes and thought that those were actual amateur chicks you are greatly mistaken. Actual amateurs will make want to claw your eyes out. The amateur porn that you see is still top 10% of women.

Everything you thought you knew about women's looks is a lie. Your future girlfriend will probably look like some of the women I have posted here.

I dont think it applies for most people, and lets face it: you are exaggerating average female's ugliness or lack of beauty.

[Virtuous]

Real equals fat? :confused:

She is trying to denigrate the value of indeed REAL women, by comparing unfit/overweight/elderly/uglierthaneaverage ones with fake superficial plastic women. I prefer women that keep their dignity and are still naturally beautiful rather than fake ones.

[morski]

I dont think it applies for most people, and lets face it: you are exaggerating average female's ugliness or lack of beauty.

She's not exaggerating anything, not only women but most people as a whole look horribly without clothes.

[Mary]

Here are some pics. of average women in bikinis,

http://www.xojane.com/fun/gallery/fatkini#1

Click the next arrow to get to the rest of them. Yes these are average women.

[Acquisitor]

Here are some pics. of average women in bikinis,

http://www.xojane.com/fun/gallery/fatkini#1

Click the next arrow to get to the rest of them. Yes these are average women.

does presenting so called average but in reality over obese females as "normal" make you feel better about yourself ? :\

[Szegedist]

If you have ever watched amateur porn or seen amateur nudes and thought that those were actual amateur chicks you are greatly mistaken. Actual amateurs will make want to claw your eyes out. The amateur porn that you see is still top 10% of women.
Is this meant to be aimed at me?


Everything you thought you knew about women's looks is a lie. Your future girlfriend will probably look like some of the women I have posted here.

Maybe, but by that time she will be around 80.

[Lena]

She's not exaggerating anything, not only women but most people as a whole look horribly without clothes.

Only if they don't take care of themselves at all. Some ppl are more prone to gain weight, some less, but on average majority of women I know don't come even close to what has been posted of 'average' looking women here.

[Mary]

I dont think it applies for most people, and lets face it: you are exaggerating average female's ugliness or lack of beauty.

You mean that it does not apply to you. If you're lucky you might get with a chick that's in the top 20%. But that of course depends on you do you as a man rate yourself in the top 20% of men? If not you better learn to like curves.

Look I'm not exaggerating I've seen what women look like naked a lot more than any man has. If I wanted to exaggerate I would post the bottom 20%. I want to stress that this is not the worst of women this is the young middle segment. I could post older women, obese women, very obese women, post pregnancy women, very ugly women and so on. This is not bad this is average younger women.

[morski]

Only if they don't take care of themselves at all. Some ppl are more prone to gain weight, some less, but on average majority of women I know don't come even close to what has been posted of 'average' looking women here.

That's precisely what 2/3 if not more of the general public do or don't as it is.:D

I come from a town with a strong beach culture and what Mary says is true. Of every 100 people you see at the beach no more than 15-20 have decent bodies. Decent mind you, not great, those are even rarer.

[Acquisitor]

You mean that it does not apply to you. If you're lucky you might get with a chick that's in the top 20%. But that of course depends on you do you as a man rate yourself in the top 20% of men? If not you better learn to like curves.

I do not rate myself to be anywhere near the top 20% of males in terms of looks but I have always dated what you refer to as "top 10%". I have never ever even looked at obese woman in "that way".

as I said, being fat is typically a sign of lack of self respect, and I can not tolerate that one bit. If a female doesn't respect herself and carries 10-20 (or more) kg of extra useless weight on her muscles, then I find it to be beyond pathetic. And such a female who can not respect even herself, can not be expected to respect her partner. My eyes and mind are always targeting well built girls, while I do recognize the fact that there are some fatsos out there, I still think the majority is rather well built. Naturally perfectly build bodies are rather rare.


and it looks to me that you have posted the bottom 20% in the opening post.

[Mary]

She is trying to denigrate the value of indeed REAL women, by comparing unfit/overweight/elderly/uglierthaneaverage ones with fake superficial plastic women. I prefer women that keep their dignity and are still naturally beautiful rather than fake ones.

You are in denial. How many naked women have you seen in person? I've seen at least hundreds probably thousands. If I wanted to exaggerate I would post post pregnancy women,

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2423853/Real-post-baby-bodies-Photographers-inspiring-series-celebrates-true-beauty-motherhood.html

http://theshapeofamother.com/

http://4thtrimesterbodies.com/

This is real average women that have had a child.

[Mary]

does presenting so called average but in reality over obese females as "normal" make you feel better about yourself ? :\

I don't compare myself with these women I compare myself with porn stars. Everybody knows that by now.

[orangepulp]

Mary is 138 lbs a lot for a female who is 5 ft 4"?

[Mary]

I do not rate myself to be anywhere near the top 20% of males in terms of looks but I have always dated what you refer to as "top 10%". I have never ever even looked at obese woman in "that way".

as I said, being fat is typically a sign of lack of self respect, and I can not tolerate that one bit. If a female doesn't respect herself and carries 10-20 (or more) kg of extra useless weight on her muscles, then I find it to be beyond pathetic. And such a female who can not respect even herself, can not be expected to respect her partner. My eyes and mind are always targeting well built girls, while I do recognize the fact that there are some fatsos out there, I still think the majority is rather well built. Naturally perfectly build bodies are rather rare.


and it looks to me that you have posted the bottom 20% in the opening post.

It's okay I hate ugly women too everybody does.

You don't want to see the bottom 20%.

[Mary]

Mary is 138 lbs a lot for a female who is 5 ft 4"?

That's pretty normal.

[Stimpy]

This is not what a normal woman looks like, most of these women except the last one are obese, they are disfunctional. They can neither run, have sex properly or probably even perform a squat with their own bodyweight, they couldn't shit properly in a squatting position like humans are meant to do without a toilet. They are also at risk for serious health conditions. If these women lived just 200 or so years ago most of them could probably work at a freak show or circus.

This is what a healthy, normal, fertile woman should look like:
http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ld54crSSjz1qftipgo1_400.jpg
Note that she's neither fat, skinny nor in very good shape. She's average, she's normal. We should never normalize obesity. It's disfunctional, unhealthy and unattractive.

[Dandelion]

Well, most women in this forum would - by Mary's logic - be within the (10-20)% hottest range. Also, I have been lucky several times with supposed non-average women despite not being an actual Don Juan of any kind.

[Azalea]

These are not ugly women. You have not seen ugly women. The women you have seen are the girls in the locker room. The ugly women don't change with these women that I have posted. They're so horrible that the women that I posted don't want to see them. They are the bottom 10%. They make these women look attractive.

Look I'm a woman I'm the one who has seen lots of women naked. So I'm telling you the percentages from experience. You're telling me percentages from how you think it is but you haven't actually seen it. You get the percentages from women that you see on TV. Those are the top 15% they are not average women. If you watch a TV show and see a woman you think is average she's actually top 15%. The women that you see on the street look like the women I have posted under their clothing.

I also don't change with other women around me. God I must be very ugly. :cool:


Some women do turn into monstrosities once they pinned down a man by marrying him and having a child or several children with him. They become fat and cut their hair short as well. Usually it's interesting to look at the mother of the young woman you're dating and observe whether she has a similar personality or lifestyle. It's often a great warning about how/what she is about to become in the future.

In Turkey they say 'Look at the mother, marry the daughter'. Haha. :P

[Mary]

Well, most women in this forum would - by Mary's logic - be within the (10-20)% hottest range. Also, I have been lucky several times with supposed non-average women despite not being an actual Don Juan of any kind.

Do you have pics. of the women you were lucky with? If so take a full frontal in good light and put it next to this,


NSFW

http://www.topstarcelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Aleta-Ocean-twitter-13.jpg


You need to have a benchmark that you compare women to. Without a comparison it's very easy to overrate them.

[Mary]

I also don't change with other women around me. God I must be very ugly. :cool:


This what you're being compared to,


NSFW

http://img274.imagevenue.com/loc206/th_237031976_03_123_206lo.jpg (http://img274.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=237031976_03_123_206lo.jpg)


http://img277.imagevenue.com/loc363/th_237032465_06_123_363lo.jpg (http://img277.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=237032465_06_123_363lo.jpg)


This girl is a 7. Take your own pics. and put them next to hers then you can rate yourself.

[Loki]

This what you're being compared to,


Azalea > that girl

[Dandelion]

Do you have pics. of the women you were lucky with? If so take a full frontal in good light and put it next to this,


NSFW

http://www.topstarcelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Aleta-Ocean-twitter-13.jpg


You need to have a benchmark that you compare women to. Without a comparison it's very easy to overrate them.

Not going to post facebook pictures, sorry. ;)

[Azalea]

That woman has a pretty face also. If she is a 7, then I am way lower haha. But in all honesty, I don't like undressing in front of other people. Ugly, beautiful, women, men, it doesn't matter. It has nothing to do with comparing myself to others. I don't do that.

[Mary]

Azalea > that girl

That's Anita Dark here's a solo scene with her,


NSFW

http://www.tube8.com/hardcore/anita-dark-in-busty-solo/1938811/

[Dandelion]

Every woman has at least stood in front of a mirror naked once.

[Mary]

Not going to post facebook pictures, sorry. ;)

I'm not asking you to post it I'm saying you can do it for yourself.

[Mary]

That woman has a pretty face also. If she is a 7, then I am way lower haha. But in all honesty, I don't like undressing in front of other people. Ugly, beautiful, women, men, it doesn't matter. It has nothing to do with comparing myself to others. I don't do that.

You don't have to undress in front of other people you can just compare for yourself.

[Azalea]

Sure. I was just making clear that me not undressing in front of others doesn't have anything to do with feeling lower or better than others.

[Mary]

Here you can see that average women are porkies, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2512121/Shame-Victoria-Beckhams-clothes-fit-14-year-old-daughter.html?ICO=most_read_module

Victoria Beckham would be considered very attractive. But most guys think that your average woman is not too far from her. Here's proof that your average woman is nowhere near Victoria Beckham.

[Dandelion]

Victoria Beckham isn't really seen as attractive to most men.

[Mary]

Victoria Beckham isn't really seen as attractive to most men.

Well sure compared to porn stars she's average. But compare her to the women in the OP. Those are the kind of women most men have to settle with.

[Lena]

That's precisely what 2/3 if not more of the general public do or don't as it is.:D

I come from a town with a strong beach culture and what Mary says is true. Of every 100 people you see at the beach no more than 15-20 have decent bodies. Decent mind you, not great, those are even rarer.

We don't visit same places and beaches obviously lol! Come on, pics Mary provided are not average at all, they are well below average and it makes all girls on TA to feel super special about their bodies, but it's wrong perception, period. I've seen girls with extra weight who are still fit, women on Mary's pics have extra skin too, not only fat.

[Mary]

We don't visit same places and beaches obviously lol! Come on, pics Mary provided are not average at all, they are well below average and it makes all girls on TA to feel super special about their bodies, but it's wrong perception, period. I've seen girls with extra weight who are still fit, women on Mary's pics have extra skin too, not only fat.

The average US woman is a size US 14 and up,


To whit, the “average” American women now wears a size 14 (with “plus-sizes, often classified as 14 to 34, account(ing) for 67 percent of the population)

http://www.businessinsider.com/why-isnt-plus-size-bigger-2012-12

This applies to 70% of US women. This is what a US size 14 looks like (a UK 16 is a US 14),


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/06/article-2446611-188FC44E00000578-151_634x906.jpg


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/06/article-2446611-188FC38A00000578-194_306x738.jpg


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/06/article-2446611-188FC39200000578-890_306x738.jpg



'Proud': Chantelle Houghton displayed her size 16 curves in Majorca earlier this month as friends insisted she's happy with the way she looks


A source told Closer magazine: 'Chantelle is now a size 14 to 16, but insists that although she's having a hard time right now, she's not unhappy with what she sees in the mirror.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2446611/Chantelle-Houghton-displays-size-16-bikini-body-insists-shes-proud-curves.html

[Minesweeper]

This is not bad this is average younger women.

Perhaps in the place where you live. Not in my country. Even the girls that I consider fat are in better shape than those you posted.

[Minesweeper]

Forgot to rate them, fat and ugly bottom. Last girl is an exception, she might be close to average but still not.

[safinator]

Real Women maybe to McDonalds standards only.

[Lena]

Perhaps in the place where you live. Not in my country. Even the girls that I consider fat are in better shape than those you posted.

Tell them, Mines :icon_smile: I don't get how women posted could be average even in The States... maybe in some low income neighborhoods.

[Mary]

This is another US size 14 (UK 16),


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/05/15/article-2144676-13197735000005DC-195_306x581.jpg


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/05/15/article-0-13197698000005DC-325_306x696.jpg


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/05/15/article-0-131975CC000005DC-368_306x696.jpg


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/05/15/article-0-13195BE9000005DC-625_634x775.jpg


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/05/15/article-0-13195BC4000005DC-764_634x389.jpg


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/05/15/article-0-13195BF1000005DC-138_634x429.jpg


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/05/15/article-0-13195BCD000005DC-435_634x351.jpg



The 27-year-old star is now back up to a size 16


Josie Gibson has returned to her size 16 body and has told friends she is determined to get back to a size 12 after seeing these holiday pictures of herself

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2144676/Big-Brothers-Josie-Gibson-vows-lose-weight-seeing-holiday-bikini-pictures.html

a) Do you guys agree that this woman is US size 14?

b) Do you agree that the following article states that 67% of US women are US size 14 and above?


To whit, the “average” American women now wears a size 14 (with “plus-sizes, often classified as 14 to 34, account(ing) for 67 percent of the population)

http://www.businessinsider.com/why-isnt-plus-size-bigger-2012-12

c) Does that mean that this woman is representative for the average US woman (67%)? Yes it does.

[Acquisitor]

one of my idols from the 90's was incredibly hot:

http://freefever.com/stock/alicia-silverstone-wallpaper-hd.jpg

and then she decided that eating was better than making millions, and her career came to an end

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.popeater.com/media/2011/03/alicia-silverstone-294km0325.jpg

[Lena]

Does that mean that this woman is representative for the average US woman (67%)? Yes it does.

Does that mean that we all post from The States? No it doesn't. Women over here still take care of themselves, as we like to joke, we don't even trow garbage in dumpster if not dressed nicely. :wink

[Mary]

Here is a gallery with different sizes,

http://www.momlogic.com/2009/06/size_14_is_a_perfect_10.php

http://photos.momlogic.com/galleries/body_image_gallery#7846

These women are shown as being size 14 (average US size),


http://cdn.static.telepixtv.com/photos/momlogic/gallery-images/2008/10/_5_gallery2_full.jpg


http://cdn.static.telepixtv.com/photos/momlogic/gallery-images/2008/10/_8_gallery2_full.jpg

[Szegedist]

Mary, I never saw a woman as fat as the one you posted in real life under the age of 60.

Do you understand the concept of average?

[Mary]

Here is a woman that is US size 12 (better than average),



http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/17/article-2464811-18CB886500000578-351_634x960.jpg


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/17/article-2464811-18CB88B200000578-960_634x1077.jpg


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/17/article-2464811-18CB87C400000578-900_634x1153.jpg



The 30-year-old looked the picture of happiness while on holiday in Majorca earlier this month, showing off her size 14-16 figure in a polka dot bikini.


Proud: Chantelle Houghton shows off her size 14 curves in a pretty polka dot bikini as she holidays in Spain

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2464811/Chantelle-Houghton-shows-curves-splashes-pretty-polka-dot-bikini.html

[Loki]

American women are really not very nice :/

[Unome]

I think it's time for you to see what real women look like.
I give them a 6 beer rating, maybe 5 if the lights are dim. :icon_drunk:

[Mary]

The woman on the left is a US size 6 the one on the right is a US size 14,


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/09/article-2098789-11A790AC000005DC-165_634x992.jpg



Underwear trends: Size 8 women, like this model on the left are most likely to wear sensible cotton pants while size 16s prefer sexier matching sets

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2098789/Half-women-carry-pair-sexy-knickers-handbag-just-case.html

The girl on the left has your average skinny teenager body. That's 10% of all teenage girls. The girl on the right is the US average woman.

Found a better picture of the chart,


http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/3/0/2/3/2/0/5/body-type-70012152525.jpeg#body%20type


http://photos.momlogic.com/galleries/body_image_gallery#7846

1. Size 0
2. Size 2
3. Size 6-8
4. Size 11
5. Size 14 (average)
6. Size 14 (average)
7. Size 16
8. Size 18

[Loki]

^ Both have boobs that are too small.

[Mary]

American women are really not very nice :/

European women are about one size behind.

[RandoBloom]

European women are about one size behind.

Are you sure you are not curing complexes on theese threads?

[Mary]

^ Both have boobs that are too small.

It's probably just their bras. The first one might have small boobs though.

[Lena]

Are you sure you are not curing complexes on theese threads?

Knowing her, she's only fishing for our half naked pics to 'prove' opposite of what she claims :P

[Loki]

It's probably just their bras. The first one might have small boobs though.

No. They're small. English women have big boobs, mostly. These American women are inferior in so many ways.

[Mary]

Here are some more comparison pics.,

US size 6,


http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/12/Ebefore121206_195x350.jpg


US size 8,


http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/12/ChristieBefore_186x350.jpg


US size 10,


http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/12/CassandraBefore_140x350.jpg


US size 12,


http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/12/Cbefore121206_214x350.jpg


US size 14,


http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/12/Abefore121206_191x350.jpg


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-422267/Would-size-zero.html

The girl on the left is a US 14 (she's a plus size model),


http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/04_01/missenglandSplitb_468x396.jpg


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-557329/Size-16-Miss-England-hop-Chloe-checks-competition-bikini-photoshoot.html

Here she is second from the left,


http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Official+Miss+England+Bikini+2008+Photocall+h4qqJH h8QZfl.jpg


Next to an older pic. of Aletta,


NSFW (topless Aletta)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/04/01/article-1004508-00C0B7D100000578-563_87x84_popup.jpg http://img242.imagevenue.com/loc6/th_248738806_07_123_6lo.jpg (http://img242.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=248738806_07_123_6lo.jpg)


Remember, the first girl is the average.

[Szegedist]

Mary get some help.

[Mary]

Here are some galleries of regular women,

NSFW

http://www.thenuproject.com/galleries/women-of-north-america-i/

http://www.thenuproject.com/galleries/women-of-north-america-ii/

http://www.thenuproject.com/galleries/women-of-north-america-iii/

This is what average women look like.

[Hurrem sultana]

wow mary i like your profile pic

[Mary]

I just have to point out that in order to look like the average women in the galleries I just posted, you have to work hard. It's not something that just happens overnight or after a short habit of eating cookies every day. The degeneration of a female body starts already in her teens. It starts by her consuming sweets, junk food and alcohol as a teen. Then she continues to do this throughout her college years. If she has started doing this in her teens but breaks it off by the time she's 20, she will still have a very hard time keeping a decent figure into her 20's, even if she breaks all those bad teenage habits. A woman that hasn't had those bad habits in her teens will keep a great base figure throughout her life.

As I said before, women start looking this way already in their teens. Most of the girls in my high school class did. Already at the age of 13 there was a notable difference.

So why do women let themselves become this way? Well, hot chicks are hot because they like men. They like pleasing them. Ugly women hate men and do everything to displease men. They think that the men should only please them. And what better way is there to displease a man than to look ugly and fat? Ugly women also think that if all women look ugly (hence the average woman looking like a minor walrus) men will have no choice but to pick an ugly woman as their girlfriend. Hot chicks are so few anyway (10%) that most men can't have one. So you're stuck in a sea of hambeasts. You have no choice. If you want a girlfriend, you better man those harpoons.


http://www.lolbrary.com/content/504/hambeast-demands-it-22504.jpg

[Kazimiera]

Here are some galleries of regular women,

NSFW

http://www.thenuproject.com/galleries/women-of-north-america-i/

http://www.thenuproject.com/galleries/women-of-north-america-ii/

http://www.thenuproject.com/galleries/women-of-north-america-iii/

This is what average women look like.

There are some very beautiful women in these photos.

[Mary]

There are some very beautiful women in these photos.

Some are what would be considered slender but they're not beautiful. These are not natural bodies. As I said before you have to work on it to look that way. What can a woman do to not look like those women?

a) Stay off the sweets and junk food. This is so easy. It's not about doing something, it's about NOT doing something. It requires you to be idle rather than to stuff that cookie into your mouth.

b) Exercise. You don't have to go to the gym. Just do more physical activity. Walk, don't take the car, carry things, do manual labour, etc. If you do this you will not be fat.

c) Good nutrition. There is so much good and nutritious food that there's no reason to get that skinny fat body. There's loads of information about nutrition that you don't have any excuses.

d) If a woman can't do the above, she can just get plastic surgery. There's lipo, tummy tucks, implants that you can get in order to look acceptable. You can do it cheaper in South America or Asia, so money isn't an excuse.

If a woman doesn't do any of these things, then she's obviously looking like a hog on purpose.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qFIt7foyXs


Note that the blonde woman is not fat. She looks great for her age. So it's a choice, not a condition.

[Mary]

Moar?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4SpIaSnyWw



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh53WdLweng

[Mary]

Here is a great blog on tummies. It's pictures that women themselves have sent in. Pay special attention to the early 20's girls that have not had a baby,

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/

These are real women with real pictures. They are representative for what women look like.

[Mary]

Here are 85 pictures of the tummies of women 15-25 that have not been pregnant. I suggest you look at all of them,



http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2013/01/03/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-8/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2013/01/01/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/31/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/30/19-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/28/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-currently-suffering-from-an-eating-disorder/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/27/24-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/25/daughter-15-years-old-0-pregnancies-mother-41-years-old-3-pregnancies-2-babies-born-by-csection-1-miscarriage/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/24/15-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/21/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-6/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/20/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/18/16-years-old-0-pregnancies-1-year-recovering-anorexic/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/17/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/14/24-years-old-0-pregnancies-2-years-recovering-anorexic/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/13/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-7/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/12/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/11/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-6/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/07/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/03/16-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/27/17-years-old-0-pregnancies-6/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/20/17-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/16-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/14/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/13/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/12/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/10/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/16-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/01/17-years-old-no-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/10/31/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/10/30/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/10/29/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/10/28/17-years-old-0-pregnancies-no-history-of-eating-disorders/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/10/27/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/15/17-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/14/19-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/11/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/08/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-victim-of-anorexia-for-8-years/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/07/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/05/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/04/17-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/03/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/01/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/28/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/25/17-0-pregnancies-0-babies-1-month-recovering-anorexic-1-month-emotional-eating/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/23/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/20/24-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/19/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/17/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/16/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/14/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/19-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/07/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/27-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/01/30/20-turning-21-in-10-days-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/19-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/10/01/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/09/28/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-lost-30-lbs/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/09/25/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/09/16/25-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-just-lost-10-pounds/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/07/22/24-years-old-0-pregnancies-trying-to-conceive/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/07/04/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/07/01/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/06/25/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/24-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/06/03/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/04/22/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/04/08/22-years-old-0-known-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/23-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-obsessed-with-being-thin/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/05/29/19-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/24-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/03/18/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/01/21/18-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/20-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/01/09/22-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/05/21/24-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/



This is a representative sample. These pictures have not been cherry picked. If you go into the girls' locker room in high school this is what you are going to see.

For comparison this is a 35 year old woman that has had one pregnancy,


NSFW

http://img194.imagevenue.com/loc214/th_296452313_5_123_214lo.jpg (http://img194.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=296452313_5_123_214lo.jpg)


Now look among the 85 women I've linked and try to find one that looks like her.

[Fortis in Arduis]

I cannot bear this big woman thing. Mary is right. It does not have to be this way. Everyone knows that any amount of wobbly body fat is disgusting... really... and if you have some, you should get rid of it. It is gross.

What hope is there if overweight/obese is the norm?

[Mary]

This is a US size 12 (average is US 14),


NSFW

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/11/article-2085226-0F6A75F000000578-236_468x706.jpg


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/11/article-2085226-0F6A75FC00000578-301_468x707.jpg


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/11/article-2085226-0F6A75F400000578-78_468x355.jpg



Size matters: PLUS Model Magazine has shot size 12 Katya Zharkova pose with a 'straight-size' model to demonstrate the difference between them


Body image: The model proudly bares her U.S. size 12 curves in the magazine shoot

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2085226/PLUS-Model-Magazines-Katya-Zharkova-cover-highlights-body-image-fashion-industry.html

This woman is better than average.

[Pjeter Pan]

This aren't real women, they're fat and ugly.

[Moonbird]

Some are what would be considered slender but they're not beautiful. These are not natural bodies. As I said before you have to work on it to look that way. What can a woman do to not look like those women?

a) Stay off the sweets and junk food. This is so easy. It's not about doing something, it's about NOT doing something. It requires you to be idle rather than to stuff that cookie into your mouth.

b) Exercise. You don't have to go to the gym. Just do more physical activity. Walk, don't take the car, carry things, do manual labour, etc. If you do this you will not be fat.

c) Good nutrition. There is so much good and nutritious food that there's no reason to get that skinny fat body. There's loads of information about nutrition that you don't have any excuses.

d) If a woman can't do the above, she can just get plastic surgery. There's lipo, tummy tucks, implants that you can get in order to look acceptable. You can do it cheaper in South America or Asia, so money isn't an excuse.

If a woman doesn't do any of these things, then she's obviously looking like a hog on purpose.


OR she can just trick men by hiding her ugly face and body inside a burqa. :tongue_002:

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01574/burqa_1574251c.jpg

[rhiannon]

Mary is a half wit

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1F-Np3OiGv8/T44MW5QG1_I/AAAAAAAABes/MHzC7iOO9y4/s1600/Size%2B8%2B12%2B16.jpg

Size 14 isn't shockingly fat.
Size itself betrays very little of what a woman's body will actually look like. So many variables at play here...height, general body shape, bone structure, musculature....etc. Size taken on its own means nothing.

There is a shit ton more I could say right now but think I,m gonna leave it at that. This is not a nice thread at all. :(

[Mary]

OR she can just trick men by hiding her ugly face and body inside a burqa. :tongue_002:

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01574/burqa_1574251c.jpg

That's why it should be mandatory to post naked pictures,


NSFW (my latest set with comparison)



http://img131.imagevenue.com/loc561/th_312227659_1_123_561lo.jpg (http://img131.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=312227659_1_123_561lo.jpg) http://img248.imagevenue.com/loc71/th_312231974_1x_123_71lo.jpg (http://img248.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=312231974_1x_123_71lo.jpg)


http://img20.imagevenue.com/loc348/th_531224418_2_123_348lo.jpg (http://img20.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=531224418_2_123_348lo.jpg) http://img184.imagevenue.com/loc983/th_312247268_2x_123_983lo.jpg (http://img184.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=312247268_2x_123_983lo.jpg)


http://img263.imagevenue.com/loc209/th_312258220_3_123_209lo.jpg (http://img263.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=312258220_3_123_209lo.jpg) http://img5.imagevenue.com/loc233/th_312262717_3x_123_233lo.jpg (http://img5.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=312262717_3x_123_233lo.jpg)


http://img182.imagevenue.com/loc552/th_312278541_4_123_552lo.jpg (http://img182.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=312278541_4_123_552lo.jpg) http://img143.imagevenue.com/loc158/th_531228143_4x_123_158lo.jpg (http://img143.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=531228143_4x_123_158lo.jpg)


http://img169.imagevenue.com/loc1016/th_312289194_5_123_1016lo.jpg (http://img169.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=312289194_5_123_1016lo.jpg) http://img225.imagevenue.com/loc702/th_312292395_5x_123_702lo.jpg (http://img225.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=312292395_5x_123_702lo.jpg)


http://img193.imagevenue.com/loc342/th_312299913_6_123_342lo.jpg (http://img193.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=312299913_6_123_342lo.jpg) http://img177.imagevenue.com/loc343/th_312301729_6x_123_343lo.jpg (http://img177.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=312301729_6x_123_343lo.jpg)


http://img248.imagevenue.com/loc165/th_312326349_7_123_165lo.jpg (http://img248.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=312326349_7_123_165lo.jpg) http://img182.imagevenue.com/loc124/th_312331852_7x_123_124lo.jpg (http://img182.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=312331852_7x_123_124lo.jpg)


http://img248.imagevenue.com/loc392/th_312342278_8_123_392lo.jpg (http://img248.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=312342278_8_123_392lo.jpg) http://img269.imagevenue.com/loc173/th_853123496_8x_123_173lo.jpg (http://img269.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=853123496_8x_123_173lo.jpg)


http://img274.imagevenue.com/loc552/th_312359856_9_123_552lo.jpg (http://img274.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=312359856_9_123_552lo.jpg) http://img188.imagevenue.com/loc465/th_312368391_9x_123_465lo.jpg (http://img188.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=312368391_9x_123_465lo.jpg)

[Mary]

This is a size US 16,

http://img6.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/j/u/jug8s0o2fvrbrvo.jpg


http://img5.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/c/d/cdxgeffum30rxde0.jpg


http://img2.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/9/f/9fqwwo2gx3y5wqo5.jpg


http://img1.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/b/0/b0vl7svu0rows7u0.jpg


http://img2.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/u/n/uns01k82muklnu0u.jpg


http://img1.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/z/z/zzhi086t2xz4ih84.jpg


http://img5.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/8/m/8mtqcynwn45995w.jpg


http://img2.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/u/7/u7fpvrb33vwevpbu.jpg


http://modelostallasgrandes.difblog.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2013/04/tara_lynn_012a1.jpg



57% of U.S. women wear at least some clothing in sizes 16 and above.

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/6/prweb10813260.htm

That means that 60% of US women are this size or bigger.

[Acquisitor]

Mary: do you bleach your anus?

[Oneeye]

No. They're small. English women have big boobs, mostly. These American women are inferior in so many ways.

LOL, American women don't have small boobies though. I bet that they may actually be, as an average, larger cup sized than British women.



http://zombierobots.net/wp-content/main/2011_03/Average-breast-cup-size-map.jpg



D cup average... on par with Germany (Not surprising given that German ancestry is so prominent here) and Iceland... only extremely Northern nations have larger cup sizes on average. As for Britain, it is showing C cups. I won't lie, C cups look pretty small. That's pretty much only a handful, is it not?

[Mary]

Mary: do you bleach your anus?

No here are better pictures of my ass they're high resolution,


NSFW


http://img219.imagevenue.com/loc915/th_317640317_v1_123_915lo.jpg (http://img219.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=317640317_v1_123_915lo.jpg)


http://img235.imagevenue.com/loc355/th_317675279_v2_123_355lo.jpg (http://img235.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=317675279_v2_123_355lo.jpg)


http://img290.imagevenue.com/loc512/th_317697745_v3_123_512lo.jpg (http://img290.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=317697745_v3_123_512lo.jpg)


http://img190.imagevenue.com/loc150/th_317716900_v4_123_150lo.jpg (http://img190.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=317716900_v4_123_150lo.jpg)


http://img132.imagevenue.com/loc110/th_317750581_v5_123_110lo.jpg (http://img132.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=317750581_v5_123_110lo.jpg)

[Oneeye]

This is a regular model. She's trying to look amateur. She's way above average. She's in the top 15%.



They're pretty plus size models and in the top 20%. 80% of women are uglier than these.

All the women you posted here are models they're not regular women. It's the same thing as if you would have posted Kate Moss or Claudia Schiffer.


It's a professional porn star. She's in the top 10%. You will almost never see a woman like that in the girls' locker room. If you think she is average you are deluded.

Look at this picture,


NSFW

http://amateurfapland.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/curvy-short-blonde-teen-hottie-before-and-after.jpg

This is slightly above average, she would even be considered kind of slender. In the dressed picture she has an average "cute" face, big boobs and what some would call a "sexy" outfit. Her clothes are pretty skin tight. Pretty okay girlfriend material, right guys? :laugh:

In the undressed picture you can see all her fat, her boobs... are you still looking at the picture? Keep looking! This body is above average. She belongs to the top 20%. That means that 80% of women out there are uglier/fatter than her. This girl is quite unusual in the girls' locker room because of her "slender" figure. Most women are fatter than her.



This girl is the most average that you've posted here, imo. She is more attractive than most of the thinner women that you've posted... nice face, rear, etc.


The two girls in your previous post are far from what I would consider better than average. In no time of my life would I have considered sleeping with them, simply not attractive enough. Their bodies are average, but their faces are a big turn off. It would feel like I'm devolving the species.


Now I feel like a Casanova, I'm certainly pulling a lot better than average, if anyone here could be considered even remotely close to standard. :cool:

[Queen B]

These are real women. Not fat chicks you chose on purpose.They are not models, they are average women here.Some aren't even considered pretty. So let anyone chose who prefers instead:


https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/q71/s720x720/1391653_600164883375718_1411835794_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q71/s720x720/1380152_600165180042355_1168806320_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/q71/s720x720/1380477_600166583375548_956107962_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/q71/s720x720/1394086_600155676709972_199176656_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/q71/s720x720/1240444_599357103456496_697179223_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/q71/s720x720/1380263_599359066789633_1423991455_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q71/s720x720/1380063_599358993456307_1752975546_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/q71/s720x720/1378218_599360820122791_1416193648_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/q71/s720x720/1385306_594434573948749_261379045_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/q71/s720x720/1380655_594434923948714_1687147564_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/q71/s720x720/1383077_594436787281861_1036298799_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q71/s720x720/1237821_588829931175880_1945456784_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q71/s720x720/1240180_585155161543357_25617740_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q71/s720x720/1185192_585156391543234_1492971928_n.jpg

[Acquisitor]

thanks Queen!

you have increased the value of this topic by a tenfold or more.

[Queen B]

That's pretty normal.
So my 130lb, and 5'9'' isn't normal? :eek::eek::eek:

[Acquisitor]

So my 130lb, and 5'9'' isn't normal? :eek::eek::eek:

I think its perfect. and yes I had to recalculate it into kg/cm first.

[Mary]

These are real women. Not fat chicks you chose on purpose.They are not models, they are average women here.Some aren't even considered pretty. So let anyone chose who prefers instead:

I'm not saying they're not real women but are those women the average? Not according to the statistics,


To whit, the “average” American women now wears a size 14 (with “plus-sizes, often classified as 14 to 34, account(ing) for 67 percent of the population)

http://www.businessinsider.com/why-isnt-plus-size-bigger-2012-12


57% of U.S. women wear at least some clothing in sizes 16 and above.

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/6/prweb10813260.htm

The average woman looks like the ones I've posted.

[Mary]

So my 130lb, and 5'9'' isn't normal? :eek::eek::eek:

What's that in centimetres and kilos?

[Queen B]

I'm not saying they're not real women but are those women the average? Not according to the statistics,

I don't care about the statistics of the most obese country in the world. I don't care about the ''average'' woman in the kingdom of McDonalds.
Here -in Greece - these are average women.And every single on of them, is better than these plastic whores.

This girl is considered chubby here, and it's way more pretty than all those you posted.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/304561_2192619728768_891122314_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/200807_1908435752153_5656603_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/30493_134946363185371_517601_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/165058_1663743467192_1699906_n.jpg?lvh=1
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/168585_197544876925519_7625733_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/s720x720/548080_10150979936319678_2058724032_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/2720_1125950422702_7821506_n.jpg

[Queen B]

What's that in centimetres and kilos?
I'm 174cm and 59kg. My minimum (as adult) was 57 and maximum was 65.

[Mary]

I don't care about the statistics of the most obese country in the world. I don't care about the ''average'' woman in the kingdom of McDonalds.
Here -in Greece - these are average women.And every single on of them, is better than these plastic whores.

This girl is considered chubby here, and it's way more pretty than all those you posted.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/304561_2192619728768_891122314_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/200807_1908435752153_5656603_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/30493_134946363185371_517601_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/165058_1663743467192_1699906_n.jpg?lvh=1
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/168585_197544876925519_7625733_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/s720x720/548080_10150979936319678_2058724032_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/2720_1125950422702_7821506_n.jpg

I'm using the US because it's a) a very large population (300 million) b) a mixture of many European ethnicities c) the most culturally influential Western country. A country with a very small population would not be representative.

How people look in Greece, Slovakia or any small country for that matter is not representative to larger populations.

No the plastic whores are better.

[Mary]

I'm 174cm and 59kg. My minimum (as adult) was 57 and maximum was 65.

It's not the most common type. You would be considered very skinny.

[Queen B]

I'm using the US because it's a) a very large population (300 million) b) a mixture of many European ethnicities c) the most culturally influential Western country. A country with a very small population would not be representative.
Its also a country with lots of Blacks.
Since its a mixture of European ethnicities it should have the same average as all European countries althogether, yet, it doesn't.
So, instead of taking US, why don't you take UK or Germany or France, or even Russia?



So men, decide, who is better? The girls I posted, even the chubby one, or the porn stars of Mary?

[Skerdilaid]

Lol at Mary flashing us:thumb001: I wish all the female members were this brave!

[Longbowman]

They're the average size in the US. That's what normal women look like.

Normal women in the US.

If normal women in the US look like this, then normal women in the US are aesthetically unappealing, at least to me. I'm sure they're lovely people, but I'm simply not physically attracted to them. I keep myself in top shape (six pack, pectorals etc) and I expect the same.

I wonder if the 'normal' US woman was a size 14 or 16 20 or 30 years ago?

[Queen B]

It's not the most common type. You would be considered very skinny.
I'm not. I haven't even be called skinny in my adult life. I have been called tall or slender, but never skinny. I have a healthy body and a nice figure.
If you have every seen my photos I have posted, you'd realize I'm pretty normal in size.

If you don't feel nice for your body, and you want to prove the rest of the world fat, so you can feel better, that's fine, but that's not truth

[Mary]

Its also a country with lots of Blacks.
Since its a mixture of European ethnicities it should have the same average as all European countries althogether, yet, it doesn't.
So, instead of taking US, why don't you take UK or Germany or France, or even Russia?

1) Blacks are only 13% of the US population. Western European countries have non-whites too.

2) The US White population is a mix of Western Europe + Italy + Central Europe. So it's a pretty good average.

3) Because the US is the culturally dominant Western country. What happens in the US culturally will also happen in Western Europe. If the average US woman is a size US 14, the average Western European woman is about a size US 12. In another couple of years Western European women will also be US 14 on average.

Here is an example,



The average size for a British woman is a curvy 16

Nearly half of UK women are a dress size 16 or above


But we live in an age where ‘average’ means overweight. Some 45 per cent of British women are a dress size 16 or more,

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2342207/Is-size-16-normal--danger-These-women-Britains-common-dress-size-youd-expect-healthy-battery-medical-tests-came-surprising-worrying-results.html

A UK 16 is a US 14. In the US 67% of women are US 14 or more. In the UK 45% of women are US 14 or more. In a few years the figures will probably be closer.



So men, decide, who is better? The girls I posted, even the chubby one, or the porn stars of Mary?

Post your women naked next to porn stars naked. That's the point you have to post the women naked.

[Queen B]

Post your women naked next to porn stars naked. That's the point you have to post the women naked.
If I was to post my women naked wouldn't make any difference from the whores you post. They are real women, not whores who appear naked on internet.
Post your women in clothes instead :thumb001:

[Mary]

I'm not. I haven't even be called skinny in my adult life. I have been called tall or slender, but never skinny. I have a healthy body and a nice figure.
If you have every seen my photos I have posted, you'd realize I'm pretty normal in size.

If you don't feel nice for your body, and you want to prove the rest of the world fat, so you can feel better, that's fine, but that's not truth

I'd say you're pretty skinny.

I'm not trying to prove the rest of the world fat the statistics do that for me. I don't compare myself to average women. Look at the comparison pics. I posted here, http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?103075-Rate-these-REAL-women&p=2126609&viewfull=1#post2126609

[Mary]

If I was to post my women naked wouldn't make any difference from the whores you post. They are real women, not whores who appear naked on internet.
Post your women in clothes instead :thumb001:

It would make all the difference because you can compare them. But I've posted lots of "real women" who have appeared in lingerie or naked on the Internet.

In clothes you can't see what a woman actually looks like.




Look at this picture,


NSFW

http://amateurfapland.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/curvy-short-blonde-teen-hottie-before-and-after.jpg

This is slightly above average, she would even be considered kind of slender. In the dressed picture she has an average "cute" face, big boobs and what some would call a "sexy" outfit. Her clothes are pretty skin tight. Pretty okay girlfriend material, right guys? :laugh:

In the undressed picture you can see all her fat, her boobs... are you still looking at the picture? Keep looking! This body is above average. She belongs to the top 20%. That means that 80% of women out there are uglier/fatter than her. This girl is quite unusual in the girls' locker room because of her "slender" figure. Most women are fatter than her.

This girl looks somewhat hot with clothes on but undressed she's horrible. That applies to most of the girls that you posted.

[Queen B]

I'd say you're pretty skinny.


This is my and my best friend. She is slightly shorter than me, I think 171, and she is 53kg. Her minimum was 49kg and maximum 58kg (non-pregnant weight, I mean).
She is skinny (look at her bones in the body), I'm not.:cool:

[Mary]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?85032-Classify-my-friend
This is my and my best friend. She is slightly shorter than me, I think 171, and she is 53kg. Her minimum was 49kg and maximum 58kg (non-pregnant weight, I mean).
She is skinny (look at her bones in the body), I'm not.:cool:

I need a bikini pic. I can't see her body.

[Queen B]

I need a bikini pic. I can't see her body.
She isn't a whore. She is a mother of 2 and a woman of honor. If she takes bikini photos, she holds her for her and her husband, not posting around internet fora.
And its not our issue here, since I didn't posted her to compare her with this whores, but to show you what skinny looks like, and what is average (me).
The other girl I posted was chubby, and the ones you post are fat.

[Mary]

She isn't a whore. She is a mother of 2 and a woman of honor. If she takes bikini photos, she holds her for her and her husband, not posting around internet fora.
And its not our issue here, since I didn't posted her to compare her with this whores, but to show you what skinny looks like, and what is average (me).
The other girl I posted was chubby, and the ones you post are fat.

1) You can't claim that she looks a certain way and refuse to post proof of it.

2) You can't hide behind being "an honorable woman" in order to not have to compete.

3) Look at the statistics that I posted. 67% of US women are size US 14. 45% of UK women are size US 14. I have posted many examples of what a US 14 woman looks like. You can't base what the average woman looks like on you and your friends.

[Mary]

You can also look at this post, are you saying that this is fake or cherry picked?


Here are 85 pictures of the tummies of women 15-25 that have not been pregnant. I suggest you look at all of them,



http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2013/01/03/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-8/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2013/01/01/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/31/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/30/19-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/28/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-currently-suffering-from-an-eating-disorder/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/27/24-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/25/daughter-15-years-old-0-pregnancies-mother-41-years-old-3-pregnancies-2-babies-born-by-csection-1-miscarriage/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/24/15-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/21/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-6/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/20/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/18/16-years-old-0-pregnancies-1-year-recovering-anorexic/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/17/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/14/24-years-old-0-pregnancies-2-years-recovering-anorexic/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/13/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-7/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/12/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/11/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-6/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/07/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/03/16-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/27/17-years-old-0-pregnancies-6/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/20/17-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/16-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/14/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/13/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/12/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/10/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/16-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/01/17-years-old-no-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/10/31/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/10/30/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/10/29/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/10/28/17-years-old-0-pregnancies-no-history-of-eating-disorders/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/10/27/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/15/17-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/14/19-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/11/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/08/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-victim-of-anorexia-for-8-years/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/07/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/05/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/04/17-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/03/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/01/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/28/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/25/17-0-pregnancies-0-babies-1-month-recovering-anorexic-1-month-emotional-eating/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/23/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/20/24-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/19/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/17/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/16/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/14/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/19-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/07/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/27-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/01/30/20-turning-21-in-10-days-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/19-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/10/01/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/09/28/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-lost-30-lbs/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/09/25/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/09/16/25-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-just-lost-10-pounds/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/07/22/24-years-old-0-pregnancies-trying-to-conceive/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/07/04/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/07/01/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/06/25/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/24-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/06/03/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/04/22/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/04/08/22-years-old-0-known-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/23-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-obsessed-with-being-thin/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/05/29/19-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/24-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/03/18/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/01/21/18-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/20-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/01/09/22-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/05/21/24-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/



This is a representative sample. These pictures have not been cherry picked. If you go into the girls' locker room in high school this is what you are going to see.

For comparison this is a 35 year old woman that has had one pregnancy,


NSFW

http://img194.imagevenue.com/loc214/th_296452313_5_123_214lo.jpg (http://img194.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=296452313_5_123_214lo.jpg)


Now look among the 85 women I've linked and try to find one that looks like her.

[Longbowman]

3) Look at the statistics that I posted. 67% of US women are size US 14. 45% of UK women are size US 14. I have posted many examples of what a US 14 woman looks like. You can't base what the average woman looks like on you and your friends.

If 100% of women were size 30, they'd still be fat.

If the average woman is size 16, then the average woman is fat. Fat and unappealing. Sorry if this offends you as a women (looking at your pictures, I'm sure it doesn't offend you personally). I'm sure something similar is true of men. Looking at the pictures, I'd say very few women above size 10 would count as cute for me.

[Mary]

Here is another example of an average woman. On the left she's size 14 on the right she's size 10,


http://www.bodyhack.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/400-wide-week-1-and-12.jpg


http://www.bodyhack.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/400-wide-week-1-to-13-side.jpg



Talya Lost 21lbs and dropped from a size 14 to 10, in 12 Weeks on the Bodyhack Challenge

http://www.bodyhack.com/blog/dropped-from-size-14-to-size-10-2066

[Queen B]

1) You can't claim that she looks a certain way and refuse to post proof of it.

The portruding bones on her body are enough prove it


2) You can't hide behind being "an honorable woman" in order to not have to compete.
That's what you don't understand. :picard2:I didn't post her to compete, neither she cares to compete. I posted her and me to show you what normal and skinny is, in terms of weight. Nothing more nothing less.
For competition, I posted you some random girls in my first reply.
This silly competitions posting personal photos, are only worth to some people with zero self-esteem and self-worth, who want to be acknowledged. If you feel the need to do it, I understand, though I feel sorry for you.:(


3) Look at the statistics that I posted. 67% of US women are size US 14. 45% of UK women are size US 14. I have posted many examples of what a US 14 woman looks like. You can't base what the average woman looks like on you and your friends.
I couldn't give a flying fuck about the statistics of the kingdom of McDonalds. Told you.

[Longbowman]

Here is another example of an average woman. On the left she's size 14 on the right she's size 10,


http://www.bodyhack.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/400-wide-week-1-and-12.jpg


http://www.bodyhack.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/400-wide-week-1-to-13-side.jpg




http://www.bodyhack.com/blog/dropped-from-size-14-to-size-10-2066

Could you stop? I accept these are average. They're still unattractive.

[Mary]

The portruding bones on her body are enough prove it

Look at this picture,


NSFW

http://amateurfapland.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/curvy-short-blonde-teen-hottie-before-and-after.jpg


She looks okay with clothes on but terrible naked. You could say "her hot pants and transparent top are enough to prove that she looks good" but it wouldn't be accurate. You don't know what a woman looks like until you see her naked or at least in a bikini.



That's what you don't understand. :picard2:I didn't post her to compete, neither she cares to compete. I posted her and me to show you what normal and skinny is, in terms of weight. Nothing more nothing less.

You and your friends are not representative for the average White woman. Here I have posted 85 women between 15-25 that have not been pregnant, what is more representative your two pics. or my 85 pics.?



http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2013/01/03/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-8/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2013/01/01/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/31/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/30/19-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/28/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-currently-suffering-from-an-eating-disorder/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/27/24-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/25/daughter-15-years-old-0-pregnancies-mother-41-years-old-3-pregnancies-2-babies-born-by-csection-1-miscarriage/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/24/15-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/21/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-6/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/20/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/18/16-years-old-0-pregnancies-1-year-recovering-anorexic/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/17/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/14/24-years-old-0-pregnancies-2-years-recovering-anorexic/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/13/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-7/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/12/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/11/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-6/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/07/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/03/16-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/27/17-years-old-0-pregnancies-6/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/20/17-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/16-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/14/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/13/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/12/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/10/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/16-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/01/17-years-old-no-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/10/31/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/10/30/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/10/29/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/10/28/17-years-old-0-pregnancies-no-history-of-eating-disorders/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/10/27/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/15/17-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/14/19-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/11/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/08/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-victim-of-anorexia-for-8-years/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/07/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/05/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/04/17-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/03/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/01/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/28/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/25/17-0-pregnancies-0-babies-1-month-recovering-anorexic-1-month-emotional-eating/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/23/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/20/24-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/19/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/17/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/16/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/14/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/19-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/07/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/27-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/01/30/20-turning-21-in-10-days-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/19-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/10/01/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/09/28/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-lost-30-lbs/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/09/25/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/09/16/25-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-just-lost-10-pounds/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/07/22/24-years-old-0-pregnancies-trying-to-conceive/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/07/04/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/07/01/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/06/25/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/24-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/06/03/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/04/22/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/04/08/22-years-old-0-known-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/23-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-obsessed-with-being-thin/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/05/29/19-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/24-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/03/18/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/01/21/18-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/20-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/01/09/22-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/05/21/24-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/




For competition, I posted you some random girls in my first reply.
This silly competitions posting personal photos, are only worth to some people with zero self-esteem and self-worth, who want to be acknowledged. If you feel the need to do it, I understand, though I feel sorry for you.:(

You didn't post them naked or in a bikini so we can't know what they really look like.

Even if I have zero self esteem and self worth I still need to compete with porn stars. So do all women. Hiding it isn't going to make it any better. Here are some examples of that,


Here are a few quotes from some of the pornography users who were interviewed by journalist Pamela Paul:

"I don’t see how any male who likes porn can think actual sex is better, at least if it involves all the crap that comes with having a real live female in your life."
-- Frank, porn user.

"I live sex the way it’s shown in porno. If I were with a woman and I weren’t getting the kind of pleasure I see people enjoying in porn films, then I wouldn’t be with that woman. I’ve broken up with women who wouldn’t perform certain things I’ve seen in adult films. In porn, the women have orgasms so easily. But it usually takes longer in real life for women to have an orgasm. I get pretty impatient."
-- Luis, porn user.

"I’ve definitely noticed that naked images that used to arouse me don’t anymore, so I had to move on. I found that I was getting numb to basic images. I needed to keep progressing to more explicit stuff... I know a lot of this violates the dignity of a woman. When I realized how sexually turned on I was by stuff like bukkake, what I would do is force myself to stop and separate things in my head. I would make myself think, “yes, that was an enjoyable fantasy, but no, that is not the way I want to be with anyone.” I wish more people stopped and thought about it that way."
-- Dave, porn user.

"It’s kind of silly, but my standards changed. Women who were otherwise good-looking but weren’t as overtly sexy as the women in porn don’t appeal to me as much anymore. I found that I look more for women who have the attributes I see in porn. I want bigger breasts, blonder hair, curvier bodies in general. Just better-looking overall... I find that when I’m out at a party or a bar, I catch myself sizing up women. I would say to myself, “Wait a second. This isn’t a supermarket. You shouldn’t treat her like she’s some piece of meat. Don’t pass her up just because her boobs aren’t that big."
-- Harrison, porn user.

https://www.againstpornography.org/pornuserscomments.html



I couldn't give a flying fuck about the statistics of the kingdom of McDonalds. Told you.

Those are statistics about 150 million women. If you include the statistics for the UK that's another 30 million women. Greece only has 5 million women. If you want to know what the average White woman looks like you need to have a sample that is representative.

[Mary]

Could you stop? I accept these are average. They're still unattractive.

But I thought you guys didn't want me to post porn stars. You all kept saying you wanted to see average normal women.

[Baldur]

Just because the average white american women happen to look like that doesn't mean the european average women look like that, does it? So maybe the average european woman takes better care of themselves, ever thought about that?

[Longbowman]

But I thought you guys didn't want me to post porn stars. You all kept saying you wanted to see average normal women.

1) I've never commented on one of your posts before.

2) I'd rather see neither. Ask for help, or keep your body image issues to yourself.

3) Porn stars over the 'average American women' every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

[Lena]

Look at this picture,


NSFW

http://amateurfapland.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/curvy-short-blonde-teen-hottie-before-and-after.jpg


She looks okay with clothes on but terrible naked. You could say "her hot pants and transparent top are enough to prove that she looks good" but it wouldn't be accurate. You don't know what a woman looks like until you see her naked or at least in a bikini.


I don't wish to judge anyone, but only to a completely blind person she would look okay with her clothes on. Her left shoulder is significantly lower than right one (her body posture is terrible, spine probably already damaged), her shorts shows she has a loads of cellulite etc.

[Roy]

Nr 2 is terrifying.

[RandoBloom]

I don't wish to judge anyone, but only to a completely blind person she would look okay with her clothes on. Her left shoulder is significantly lower than right one (her body posture is terrible, spine probably already damaged), her shorts shows she has a loads of cellulite etc.

Women see too much unimportant things.
She looks fine.

[Mary]

I don't wish to judge anyone, but only to a completely blind person she would look okay with her clothes on. Her left shoulder is significantly lower than right one (her body posture is terrible, spine probably already damaged), her shorts shows she has a loads of cellulite etc.

You're right. But she doesn't look like a super fattie with her clothes on. People might think that "there's a pretty average/hot girl".

[Lena]

Women see too much unimportant things.
She looks fine.

I work in a fashion industry, I'm trained to see trough clothes lol!

[Dandelion]

Women see too much unimportant things.
She looks fine.

Indeed. She's even physically attractive. 7/10. However, this time I agree she can be considered 'average' (and an average woman doesn't impede my libido).

I wish women could live like a heterosexual male for a week. It would be an eye-opener.

[Mary]

Indeed. She's even physically attractive. 7/10. However, this time I agree she can be considered 'average' (and an average woman doesn't impede my libido).

I wish women could live like a heterosexual male for a week. It would be an eye-opener.

She's in the top 20%. How can you test this? Compare her tummy with the tummies of the 85 women I linked to,


NSFW

http://amateurfapland.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/curvy-short-blonde-teen-hottie-before-and-after.jpg



http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2013/01/03/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-8/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2013/01/01/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/31/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/30/19-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/28/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-currently-suffering-from-an-eating-disorder/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/27/24-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/25/daughter-15-years-old-0-pregnancies-mother-41-years-old-3-pregnancies-2-babies-born-by-csection-1-miscarriage/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/24/15-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/21/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-6/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/20/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/18/16-years-old-0-pregnancies-1-year-recovering-anorexic/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/17/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/14/24-years-old-0-pregnancies-2-years-recovering-anorexic/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/13/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-7/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/12/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/11/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-6/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/07/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/12/03/16-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/27/17-years-old-0-pregnancies-6/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/20/17-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/16-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/14/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/13/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/12/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/10/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/16-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/11/01/17-years-old-no-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/10/31/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/10/30/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/10/29/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/10/28/17-years-old-0-pregnancies-no-history-of-eating-disorders/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2012/10/27/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/15/17-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/14/19-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/11/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/08/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-victim-of-anorexia-for-8-years/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/07/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/05/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/04/17-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/03/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/01/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/28/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-5/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/25/17-0-pregnancies-0-babies-1-month-recovering-anorexic-1-month-emotional-eating/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/23/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/20/24-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/19/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/17/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/16/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/14/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/19-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/07/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/27-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2010/01/30/20-turning-21-in-10-days-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/19-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/10/01/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-4/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/09/28/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-lost-30-lbs/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/09/25/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/09/16/25-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-just-lost-10-pounds/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/07/22/24-years-old-0-pregnancies-trying-to-conceive/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/07/04/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/07/01/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/06/25/18-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/24-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/06/03/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/25-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/04/22/20-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/22-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/04/08/22-years-old-0-known-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/23-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-obsessed-with-being-thin/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/05/29/19-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/21-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/24-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-3/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies-2/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/03/18/23-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/01/21/18-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/20-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/01/09/22-years-old-0-pregnancies/

http://thebellyproject.wordpress.com/2009/05/21/24-years-old-0-pregnancies-0-babies/



You will find that most women in her age group are much worse than her.

[Szegedist]

She's in the top 20%.

Where do you get your %s from? Invent them yourself?

[Moonbird]

That's why it should be mandatory to post naked pictures,


In that case it should be mandatory to show your face as well.

[Mary]

In that case it should be mandatory to show your face as well.

There's nothing wrong with my face,


NSFW

http://img217.imagevenue.com/loc657/th_320470711_1_123_657lo.jpg (http://img217.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=320470711_1_123_657lo.jpg)


My face is still pixelized but you can see that there's nothing wrong with it.

And since we're discussing sizes this is what a US size 6 (UK size 8) looks like.

[RandoBloom]

There's nothing wrong with my face,


NSFW

http://img217.imagevenue.com/loc657/th_320470711_1_123_657lo.jpg (http://img217.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=320470711_1_123_657lo.jpg)


My face is still pixelized but you can see that there's nothing wrong with it.

And since we're discussing sizes this is what a US size 6 (UK size 8) looks like.

Why would anyone care what US/UK size are you :D
Is it just you or all women out of Bosnia opsesed with numbers XD

[Mary]

Let's have some more average women they're much better than plastic porn stars,


Warning: average women in all spoilers

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/09/article-2071870-0F1C048F00000578-32_634x399.jpg


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2071870/The-average-weight-British-woman-comes-shapes.html

Take -2 from their dress size to get the US size.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/11/17/article-2062499-0ED44D8B00000578-775_634x564.jpg


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2062499/What-does-husband-REALLY-think-wobbly-bits-Five-brave-women--answers-surprising-endearing.html

This is what most 40+ guys are banging. When you are 40+ you too will get to enjoy average women like this.

Here are two more belly galleries, 75 women in each,

http://www.xojane.com/fun/gallery/bellies-part-2

http://www.xojane.com/fun/gallery/xojane-real-girl-belly-project-part-two

This what real women look like.

[Mary]

Here is the average woman in Australia,


http://cdn.vogue.com.au/media/articles/1/8/1/0/18157-1_n.jpg?164137



In 1995, the average Australian woman weighed 67 kilograms, and latest figures from the Australian Bureau of Statistics show she is now tipping the scales at 70.1 kilos. The average Australian man is larger too – he now weighs 85.2 kilos, compared with 82 kilos in 1995.

Our model, Melanie, 33, represents the average Australian woman in height and weight.

http://www.bodyandsoul.com.au/fitness/training+tips/this+is+the+average+australian+woman,18157

For comparison I'm 56 kilos on my pictures in this thread.

[Mary]

Let's have an international comparison,


Debenhams has made a step forward in promoting body confidence by becoming the first high-street retailer to permanently introduce size 16 mannequins.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/06/article-2488259-193B871000000578-775_306x423.jpg


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/06/article-2488259-193B872200000578-898_306x423.jpg


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/06/article-2488259-193915A700000578-257_634x681.jpg


http://js.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2488259/Debenhams-unveils-size-16-mannequins-reflect-average-woman.html

Meanwhile in Venezuela...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHcwoCy_ZHA


Good thing you don't live in Venezuela huh?

[Mary]

These girls are not afraid to show off their real bodies, this is what women who are not models look like,


http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1195186/thumbs/r-VICTORIAS-SECRET-PROTEST-large570.jpg?15


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BM2dYVsCcAAPStu.jpg


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BM2M15KCEAAguFu.jpg


http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1195186/thumbs/o-VICTORIAS-SECRET-PROTEST-570.jpg?15


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/17/victorias-secret-protest-bras_n_3454063.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDSK91mUNLU



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8kV2yWFU34

[Longbowman]

What's your point, Mary?

[Mary]

Let's do some post pregnancy material as well, I will spare you the pics. but I suggest you read all the comments here, http://blogs.babycenter.com/mom_stories/06272013-jade-beall-a-beautiful-body-project-must-see-photos-celebrate-real-moms-bodies/#comments

[blklady2013]

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1067642!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/youth26n-2-web.jpghttp://www.flanews.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/fsu-campus-1205.jpghttp://www.thecelebrityblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/casey-anthony-partying-in-the-american-flag.jpghttp://america.aljazeera.com/content/dam/ajam/images/shows/America%20Tonight/fratdancing.jpghttps://tdscdn.com/space%20resize.jpeghttp://www.ridetheboomerang.com/images/nightlife-dc.jpghttp://www.dcclubbing.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/ladiesnight1-400x275.jpghttp://www.clubglow.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/1264028_10153222137435713_1417185141_o-400x266.jpg

Maybe I'm missing something because not everybody I see looks like that when I go out with my friends. Wouldn't nightlife be an accurate gauge of what average people look like because of how many people you can get a snapshot of at a time? I definitely think that obesity is a huge (no pun intended) issue, but the women I see (white or otherwise) when I go out don't look like the pics in the first pic on this thread. If they did, there'd be NO men in the club scene. Lol!

[McCauley]

The fuck is this shit?

[Longbowman]

The fuck is this shit?

I think Mary's combined her body issues with a desire to prove to us men that normal women are disgusting and we truly want porn stars. Ultimately she's confused 'normal' and 'average.'

[McCauley]

I think Mary's combined her body issues with a desire to prove to us men that normal women are disgusting and we truly want porn stars. Ultimately she's confused 'normal' and 'average.'

She must be crazy. This thread is some of the strangest, most out of place shit I have ever seen on the internet. What if a little kid saw this stuff?

[Longbowman]

She must be crazy. This thread is some of the strangest, most out of place shit I have ever seen on the internet. What if a little kid saw this stuff?

Let's be fair, I'd prefer a child saw this than some of the more depraved things out there. I don't think too many children lurk on TheApricity.

[Mary]

I found another representative pic.,


Warning: average women

http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/01729/WOMAN620_1729079a.jpg


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/woman/4929385/Do-men-like-you-naked-We-ask-panel-to-rate-six-brave-girls-on-photoshoot.html

This is what 80% of women look like.

This is the remaining 20%,


http://www.shespeaks.com/pages/img/redesign/blogs/526449_439324476090360_157468923_n_08012012144246. jpg


Victoria's secret is the top 10% and Dove is the top 20%.

[Mary]

Think about it like this: if you're in a girls' locker room as a guy, and it's full of attractive high school girls, wouldn't you want to have sex with them? Of course. If I, Mary was in a locker room full of hot high school girls, wouldn't I want to have sex with them? Naturally. They're hot high school girls! So wouldn't the same go for any attractive woman? And if this happens every time hot chicks shower together, wouldn't some guy find out about it sooner or later? Wouldn't someone peek into the showers and wonder what the noise was all about, wouldn't at least one girl tell her boyfriend? Yes. Yet, it does not happen. Why do you think this is?

Imagine that you are in a shower room with 10 women aged 15-25. How bad would they have to be for you not to want to have sex with a single one of them? Women have about the same standards as men. So if I tell you that I have never seen a woman in the shower room that I want to have sex with, imagine what I have seen. (I have seen probably 1000 women in the shower room, in my life)

[RandoBloom]

What's your point, Mary?

She has issues with her own body. Saggy boobs and stomach is full of saggy skin, looking like 60-yearold womans. Now, I dont know why, but it seems that she wants to present normal women as abnormal as none of us see women on the street and other places :D

[Fear Fiain]

So am I not normal or REAL because I am not size 14 or bigger?

it's feminist crap. in all species there is some degree of sexual dimorphism. in nearly all species where pair bonding is the norm, the males are significantly larger than the females. feminists and communists thus hate beautiful women who stay in shape, just as they hate, loathe, and fear solidly built tall and bulky white men. death to communism.

[armenianbodyhair]

it's feminist crap. in all species there is some degree of sexual dimorphism. in nearly all species where pair bonding is the norm, the males are significantly larger than the females. feminists and communists thus hate beautiful women who stay in shape, just as they hate, loathe, and fear solidly built tall and bulky white men. death to communism.

The irony. I am not in shape and not at all healthy. I am unhealthy but because I am thin, people don't think it matters. I think that people should work to be healthy more than fit an image, but this idea of "real" women being limited to people of a certain build is just as stupid as thinking that all women should look like people in magazines. Its all reactionary BS.

[Kastrioti1443]

Mary how many sisters or cousins do you have because I have a business offer for you.

[Fear Fiain]

The irony. I am not in shape and not at all healthy. I am unhealthy but because I am thin, people don't think it matters. I think that people should work to be healthy more than fit an image, but this idea of "real" women being limited to people of a certain build is just as stupid as thinking that all women should look like people in magazines. Its all reactionary BS.

there's at least a biological basis for smaller women = more attractive.
tbh when I see a really fat girl with a really thin guy I always wonder what's wrong with the guy, that he feels he needs to settle to tht degree, because it's always been the opposite for me. I was borderline obese when I got with the girl I spent the last two years with... and now that I got in shape I'm on my ass which is another story, but hey. takes all sorts I guess.

[Mary]

So are you guys ready for more average women?

[Queen B]

So are you guys ready for more average women?
My average or your average? :lol:

[Mary]

My average or your average? :lol:

US/UK/Sweden national average. This is backed up by the statistics I posted here, http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?103075-Rate-these-REAL-women&p=2119249&viewfull=1#post2119249

[RussiaPrussia]

so what are those in your scale?

http://static.customizedgirl.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/ugly-betty.jpg

[Lucifer]

So are you guys ready for more average women?

give us instead a bit more of mary :D

[Mary]

Here are some examples of what real women look like,


NSFW

Bottom 20%

NOT SHOWN (again I have not cherry picked these samples you do NOT want to see the bottom 20%)


Chubby 30%

http://ep.xhamster.com/000/042/704/241_1000.jpg
http://ep.xhamster.com/000/042/715/288_1000.jpg


Average 30%

http://ep.xhamster.com/000/042/704/222_1000.jpg
http://ep.xhamster.com/000/042/646/051_1000.jpg
http://ep.xhamster.com/000/042/646/050_1000.jpg


Upper 10%

http://ep.xhamster.com/000/042/704/253_1000.jpg
http://ep.xhamster.com/000/042/715/271_1000.jpg


Top 10%

http://ep.xhamster.com/000/035/586/374_1000.jpg
http://ep.xhamster.com/000/009/189/335_1000.jpg


This is from my experience but if you check the size stats it's probably pretty accurate.

I just want to add that my own idea of what average should be is very different from what average is according to the stats. You can see my idea of average on my scale here, http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?45836-Female-mate-value

My idea of average is five on my scale. The real average is below three on my scale.

Also in my scale I look at a lot more than just the body.

[Maleficent]

I'm using Aletta Ocean as a benchmark 10.Simply not plausible as she's fake.

[Mary]

Some more average women clothed and naked,


NSFW

top (10%)

http://www.imagefap.com/photo/813938271/?pgid=&gid=412582&page=1
http://www.imagefap.com/photo/1039163333/?pgid=&gid=3375894&page=0
http://www.imagefap.com/photo/1537846381/?pgid=&gid=553898&page=4#96

This is usually the hottest girl in every class. In a grade of four classes you will have four hot chicks.


slim (10 %)

http://www.imagefap.com/photo/1417654053/?pgid=&gid=4390863&page=0
http://www.imagefap.com/photo/1249750117/?pgid=&gid=4361854&page=0
http://www.imagefap.com/photo/862495283/?pgid=&gid=4410605&page=0

This is the next 3-4 girls in every class. These are the girls that you think are hot.


average (30%)

http://www.imagefap.com/photo/875080383/?pgid=&gid=4348940&page=0
http://www.imagefap.com/photo/1345366835/?pgid=&gid=4348940&page=0
http://www.imagefap.com/photo/5979718/?pgid=&gid=4348940&page=0
http://www.imagefap.com/photo/1524538146/?pgid=&gid=4348940&page=0

Yes the average woman is a fattie. This is most girls in class. When you see them with clothes on you think that she looks like a plus size lingerie model. This is what she actually looks like.


chubby (30%)

http://www.imagefap.com/photo/804576957/?pgid=&gid=4348940&page=0
http://www.imagefap.com/photo/1111641641/?pgid=&gid=4348940&page=0
http://www.imagefap.com/photo/776583356/?pgid=&gid=4348940&page=0

Pretty much the rest of the girls in class. This is what slightly below average looks like. This is the girl you think is "a bit big". This is how big she actually is under her clothing.


bottom (20%)

Not shown.

Maybe two girls in every class.


If you're not dating the hottest chick in class you're dating an ugly/fattie. The best you can reasonably hope for in very best case is a fugly. You might look at a woman and think "oh she looks quite hot/cute" but when she takes her clothes off you will see one of the pictures above which one of them you will see depends on the percentage.

This means that there's a 90% chance that you will be dating an ugly or a fattie. I'm not saying this to ruin your day but these are the percentages.

[Fortis in Arduis]

I had no idea that women were so fat underneath. I am homo, so I have not really been looking, but this is wrong because they are not healthy, really. People make such a fuss about anorexia, but fat is so much worse!

All the Mary stuff is a bit weird, like porn is art, and life now imitates porn, but I think that people would generally be a lot happier if they were not so fat and actually, this thread has inspired ME to be more beautiful and sexy. :thumbs

Thank you Mary. x

[Mary]

I had no idea that women were so fat underneath. I am homo, so I have not really been looking, but this is wrong because they are not healthy, really. People make such a fuss about anorexia, but fat is so much worse!

All the Mary stuff is a bit weird, like porn is art, and life now imitates porn, but I think that people would generally be a lot happier if they were not so fat and actually, this thread has inspired ME to be more beautiful and sexy. :thumbs

Thank you Mary. x

Very few men know this simply because they haven't seen a lot of women naked. The only women that they have seen naked in the hundreds or even thousands are women in porn. Meaning the top 10%. What I mean to say is that there is no instance where you get to see a lot of regular women naked. Women get this opportunity a lot more often.

Women are fat because nobody keeps track of them. Women have no sense of self. A dog can eat until it throws up so it needs somebody to ration the portions. A woman needs the same thing. If there is no control of her she will eat until she becomes really fat.

I'm sure an overweight dog would be much happier if it was normal weight. But the dog can't reason that far it only looks at the immediate reward. Women also only think at the immediate pleasures. So they will stuff themselves because the food is good. They will not think of the consequences. It applies to everything that women do: financial decisions (women are more irresponsible with money than men), relationships (divorce), health decisions (drinking, sleeping around and getting a disease), life choices (career before family) and so on. They lack the ability to predict the consequences of their actions. They think it will have one type of consequence but actually it leads to a completely different type of consequence. Such as "if I divorce I will become a really cool cougar". And actually you end up old and alone, struggling financially. Or "If I become fat men will like me anyway". Whereas actually "if I become fat men will puke when they see me".



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUOpqd0rQSo

[Fortis in Arduis]

^

Haha, the problem that is "growing in our lives every day" is the fatness, not the bullying. She is saying that people should be "kind and not critical"! To criticise obesity is to be kind! How much denial in one person, and the temerity to project all that stuff on television? She is obese, a poor role model and she needs to have some actual humility, instead of some more carbs! :lol:

[Mary]

^

Haha, the problem that is "growing in our lives every day" is the fatness, not the bullying. She is saying that people should be "kind and not critical"! To criticise obesity is to be kind! How much denial in one person, and the temerity to project all that stuff on television? She is obese, a poor role model and she needs to have some actual humility, instead of some more carbs! :lol:

This is typical woman logic "it's not my fault that I'm fat it's the people that tell me that I'm fat they should be ashamed of themselves". Why does she reason this way? Because she wants to continue eating good food and she thinks that even if she's fat people will like her anyway. Since there's no immediate consequence for her behaviour she keeps doing it. The only thing that would stop her from being fat is an immediate consequence such as electric shock as soon as you eat a hamburger.


Here is a video of women in Russia, they're representative for the average,



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9guzdpt34Eo


Why are these women not fat? Because in Russia there are immediate consequences for being a fattie. You won't get a man and you will not reproduce. You will also be bullied by everyone. Everyone will tell you that you're fat. Men will laugh at you. The same applies if you're ugly you will be bullied and you won't get a man. Because of these consequences you don't see a lot of fat and ugly women.

[Longbowman]

This is typical woman logic "it's not my fault that I'm fat it's the people that tell me that I'm fat they should be ashamed of themselves". Why does she reason this way? Because she wants to continue eating good food and she thinks that even if she's fat people will like her anyway. Since there's no immediate consequence for her behaviour she keeps doing it. The only thing that would stop her from being fat is an immediate consequence such as electric shock as soon as you eat a hamburger.


I agree with you in general - I never touch fat women myself, and keep myself in excellent shape - but you're being a little misogynistic, aren't you? Men are just as bad if not worse. Obesity and overweightness are ruining our society. But the problem is not men's attitude towards women. It's people's attitudes towards people. Men will sleep with fat women and women will sleep with fat men. If all women could collectively refuse to sleep with overweight men, that would be very helpful.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

The last one, is quite screwable IMO, better average looking than other ugly XXL fatties.

[rhiannon]

Let's have some more average women they're much better than plastic porn stars,


Warning: average women in all spoilers

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/09/article-2071870-0F1C048F00000578-32_634x399.jpg


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2071870/The-average-weight-British-woman-comes-shapes.html

Take -2 from their dress size to get the US size.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/11/17/article-2062499-0ED44D8B00000578-775_634x564.jpg


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2062499/What-does-husband-REALLY-think-wobbly-bits-Five-brave-women--answers-surprising-endearing.html

This is what most 40+ guys are banging. When you are 40+ you too will get to enjoy average women like this.

Here are two more belly galleries, 75 women in each,

http://www.xojane.com/fun/gallery/bellies-part-2

http://www.xojane.com/fun/gallery/xojane-real-girl-belly-project-part-two

This what real women look like.

This thread of yours Mary just betrays how young you really are.....as the comments in this thread also indicate the relative empty values had by others who get their kicks from judging the appearances of others.

As for the article you linked here....all it illustrates to me is what real love and marriage are supposed to be about :)

The truly important things in life reveal themselves more to us as we grow older. :) I have hope for most of the people on this board.

[Longbowman]

Today the Times newspaper had an article about how the average waistline for fifteen-year-old-girls has increased by 13cm over the past 18 years in the UK. Diseased is the new normal.

[Fortis in Arduis]

Today the Times newspaper had an article about how the average waistline for fifteen-year-old-girls has increased by 13cm over the past 18 years in the UK. Diseased is the new normal.

Seriously!

I am not going to eat any carbs until every last bit of excess baggage has gone.

Normal is now revolting, and yes, I think that we should all start to "promote a healthy lifestyle", which mean avoiding things like drugs and unhealthy foods and, generally, just moving more. :rolleyes2:

No excuse for fat!

[Mary]

This thread of yours Mary just betrays how young you really are.....as the comments in this thread also indicate the relative empty values had by others who get their kicks from judging the appearances of others.

As for the article you linked here....all it illustrates to me is what real love and marriage are supposed to be about :)

The truly important things in life reveal themselves more to us as we grow older. :) I have hope for most of the people on this board.

Look you don't have to be young to think that those women are awful. Even a 50 year old man doesn't want to sleep with those women. I mean come on 50 years ago women didn't look that way. My grandmother didn't look that way. And if you're going to look at other qualities than her looks, her being fat and ugly says something about her character. It says that she is indifferent to her own health, inconsiderate to her partner, probably stupid, has no limits, only cares about her immediate rewards, and more.

Houston is 40+,


NSFW

http://img219.imagevenue.com/loc1131/th_554822438_h2_123_1131lo.jpg (http://img219.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=554822438_h2_123_1131lo.jpg)


http://img173.imagevenue.com/loc483/th_548228369_h4_123_483lo.jpg (http://img173.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=548228369_h4_123_483lo.jpg)


http://img162.imagevenue.com/loc6/th_548226549_h3_123_6lo.jpg (http://img162.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=548226549_h3_123_6lo.jpg)


http://img180.imagevenue.com/loc709/th_548223609_h1_123_709lo.jpg (http://img180.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=548223609_h1_123_709lo.jpg)


http://img284.imagevenue.com/loc117/th_548229689_h5_123_117lo.jpg (http://img284.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=548229689_h5_123_117lo.jpg)


Put her next to the average-slim 20-30 year old,


NSFW (links)

http://www.imagefap.com/photo/1249750117/?pgid=&gid=4361854&page=0

http://www.imagefap.com/photo/1011419406/?pgid=&gid=4410605&page=0

http://www.imagefap.com/photo/954049399/?pgid=&gid=4410605&page=0

http://www.imagefap.com/photo/2111574196/?pgid=&gid=4335106&page=0

http://www.imagefap.com/photo/998895132/?pgid=&gid=4304274&page=0


Houston looks better than any of them.

[rhiannon]

Look you don't have to be young to think that those women are awful. Even a 50 year old man doesn't want to sleep with those women. I mean come on 50 years ago women didn't look that way. My grandmother didn't look that way. And if you're going to look at other qualities than her looks, her being fat and ugly says something about her character. It says that she is indifferent to her own health, inconsiderate to her partner, probably stupid, has no limits, only cares about her immediate rewards, and more.

Modern fast food diets have not done any favors. This is true. Now you can control fat to a point....although the fact remains some people just get fatter more easily than others. My husband and I can eat too much of the same thing and excercise the same amount....we are the same age exactly....he will not gain anything, but I will....dammit lol. Genetic predisposition clearly plays a role.

Nonetheless, while fat to a degree can be controlled, ugly really can't. Not without a really good plastic surgeon, anyway.

Ugly certainly doesn't mean stupid. Frankly neither does fat. Moreover, everyone defines these things somewhat arbitrarily because beauty and attraction are still defined individually.

In the article you posted, I saw no ugly people....I saw happily married middle-aged couples. In a world obsessed with youthful beauty, I suppose these people are less attractive by comparison.....but recognize these people are my same-aged peers. I just don't see them the same way all you young pups do.....sorry :) I saw people who exhibited genuine love and affection for their partners....despite so-called "physical imperfections"

We all could learn to be a little more like that, frankly. Great bods and good sex are pretty awesome....but they certainly can never overshadow the importance of genuine love and affection for one's partner :)

The woman you posted has had significant plastic surgery, so I would never count her in any of these comparisons.

[Mary]

Modern fast food diets have not done any favors. This is true. Now you can control fat to a point....although the fact remains some people just get fatter more easily than others. My husband and I can eat too much of the same thing and excercise the same amount....we are the same age exactly....he will not gain anything, but I will....dammit lol. Genetic predisposition clearly plays a role.

Nonetheless, while fat to a degree can be controlled, ugly really can't. Not without a really good plastic surgeon, anyway.

Ugly certainly doesn't mean stupid. Frankly neither does fat. Moreover, everyone defines these things somewhat arbitrarily because beauty and attraction are still defined individually.

In the article you posted, I saw no ugly people....I saw happily married middle-aged couples. In a world obsessed with youthful beauty, I suppose these people are less attractive by comparison.....but recognize these people are my same-aged peers. I just don't see them the same way all you young pups do.....sorry :) I saw people who exhibited genuine love and affection for their partners....despite so-called "physical imperfections"

We all could learn to be a little more like that, frankly. Great bods and good sex are pretty awesome....but they certainly can never overshadow the importance of genuine love and affection for one's partner :)

The woman you posted has had significant plastic surgery, so I would never count her in any of these comparisons.

1) "Being fat is a genetic predisposition"

I'm sure that there are a few people in the population that have a genetic disorder or disease that makes them fat. However this can not go for 70% of women. This is a too common of an excuse for being fat.

2) "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

There's an objective standard for what is beautiful and what is not in a woman. Fat is not one of those things that some men find beautiful and other men do not. All men find it repulsive. Including those that are married to fatties.

3) "When you grow older you don't care about looks"

The men that say this are lying and are just stuck with a fattie. If they could choose they would exchange her in a heart beat.

4) "Plastic surgery doesn't count"

Houston had her face and her tits done. Take your average fattie, get her silicone implants and face surgery. She will still not look like Houston. She will look like a fattie with silicones and a face job. Or let me put it like this, there's a fattie that sits on her ass all day and stuffs herself with cookies. Then there's a woman who works out regularly and gets painful plastic surgery, yet the fattie is the "real woman" and the other one is fake.

[Queen B]

Houston had her face and her tits done. Take your average fattie, get her silicone implants and face surgery. She will still not look like Houston. She will look like a fattie with silicones and a face job. Or let me put it like this, there's a fattie that sits on her ass all day and stuffs herself with cookies. Then there's a woman who works out regularly and gets painful plastic surgery, yet the fattie is the "real woman" and the other one is fake.
Her face, btw, is very ugly.

[Loki]

Apart from her taste in women, Mary speaks the truth (as always). :)

[Mary]

Her face, btw, is very ugly.

As I have pointed out many times it's that way on purpose she's suppose to look like an inflatable love doll,


NSFW

http://img182.imagevenue.com/loc258/th_555167578_067_123_258lo.jpg (http://img182.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=555167578_067_123_258lo.jpg)


Because just having a good body is not enough. You have to be special. Look at this woman,


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/15/article-2461752-18C26A2B00000578-800_306x646.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/15/article-2461752-18C26A2B00000578-816_306x646.jpg


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2513919/Why-overweight-women-proud-bodies-Controversial-fitness-mom-lands-trouble-Facebook-hate-speech.html

She has a good body but she's not special in any way. Put her next to Houston and you will see this.

[Queen B]

As I have pointed out many times it's that way on purpose she's suppose to look like an inflatable love doll,

She looks like a duck meets human. There are way more pretty 40 y.o, plastic surgery or not

[Mary]

She looks like a duck meets human. There are way more pretty 40 y.o, plastic surgery or not

Look at the Ukrainian doll woman,



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHqmQrITGpY


It's the same concept. There are lots of women that are pretty but these women are special.

[Queen B]

Look at the Ukrainian doll woman,
It's the same concept. There are lots of women that are pretty but these women are special.
A fat woman of 250 kg can also be considered special. Special doesn't necessarely mean pretty or a ''10''

[Mary]

A fat woman of 250 kg can also be considered special. Special doesn't necessarely mean pretty or a ''10''

Special means unique.

This is the average woman,


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/09/14/article-1213475-066EDA32000005DC-683_224x602.jpg


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1213475/Whats-happened-bodies-Womens-figures-transformed-past-60-years--huge-implications-health.html

Not only does she have a bad body. There is nothing unique or interesting about her. She is just some bitch. Put her next to Houston,


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http://img37.imagevenue.com/loc196/th_558338573_021_123_196lo.jpg (http://img37.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=558338573_021_123_196lo.jpg)


She actually looks like an inflatable love doll. How many women look like inflatable love dolls? How many women let themselves be used like that? It's the fact that she's very good at being a Fuckdoll that makes her a 10.

[Mary]

Let's take another example, these are average women,


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2513851/Mormon-women-laid-bare-Powerful-nude-photo-series-protests-religious-enforces-strict-modesty.html


This is Audrey,


http://img208.imagevenue.com/loc13/th_559365256_11_123_13lo.jpg (http://img208.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=559365256_11_123_13lo.jpg)


She's the crazy girlfriend type,



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM64Y8ndyG4


Not only does Audrey have a very good body. Few women are the hot crazy girlfriend.

This is a great scene with her,


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http://www.redtube.com/84906

[Queen B]

Special means unique.
This is the average woman,
She actually looks like an inflatable love doll. How many women look like inflatable love dolls? How many women let themselves be used like that? It's the fact that she's very good at being a Fuckdoll that makes her a 10.
9 out of 10 men would prefer the first one. She might not have the body houston, but her body is real. Real tits, not plastic that can't even be gropped.
Plus, she has a pretty face, while houston is ugly. Being ugly is a major turn off for most men, no matter the body.
Look at ''butter face'' (ugly face, great body)
http://cdn.funnie.st/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Ugly-Faces-Sexy-Bodies-4.jpg
http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000573713/polls_butter_face_4157_692477_answer_1_xlarge.jpeg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bqqsUp0SUcs/TUIFZ3J_3kI/AAAAAAAAA20/5APvqYsgA94/s1600/butterface2.jpg
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6325/butterface.jpg
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5643/21228661.jpg
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=38180&d=1360226415

And again , looking like a fuckdoll, doesn't make her a 10.
How many women look like hippos? How many women let themselves be used like they are just because they are obese ? It's the fact that she's very good at being a a fat makes her a 10 ?
And don't tell me that a fuckdoll is the ideal for men. There are way more porn videos with fats than with ''fuckdolls''.

[Mary]

9 out of 10 men would prefer the first one. She might not have the body houston, but her body is real. Real tits, not plastic that can't even be gropped.
Plus, she has a pretty face, while houston is ugly. Being ugly is a major turn off for most men, no matter the body.
Look at ''butter face'' (ugly face, great body)
http://cdn.funnie.st/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Ugly-Faces-Sexy-Bodies-4.jpg
http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000573713/polls_butter_face_4157_692477_answer_1_xlarge.jpeg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bqqsUp0SUcs/TUIFZ3J_3kI/AAAAAAAAA20/5APvqYsgA94/s1600/butterface2.jpg
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6325/butterface.jpg
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5643/21228661.jpg
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=38180&d=1360226415

And again , looking like a fuckdoll, doesn't make her a 10.
How many women look like hippos? How many women let themselves be used like they are just because they are obese ? It's the fact that she's very good at being a a fat makes her a 10 ?
And don't tell me that a fuckdoll is the ideal for men. There are way more porn videos with fats than with ''fuckdolls''.

1) No no one will prefer the fattie let's be realistic,


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http://img134.imagevenue.com/loc230/th_562213723_x02_123_230lo.jpg (http://img134.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=562213723_x02_123_230lo.jpg) http://img37.imagevenue.com/loc196/th_558338573_021_123_196lo.jpg (http://img37.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=558338573_021_123_196lo.jpg)


2) Yes being a Fuckdoll makes her a 10. because it's something very special and desirable for men. Average isn't desirable.

3) Not all men are into Fuckdolls but all men are into women that are very special.

[Queen B]

1) No no one will prefer the fattie let's be realistic,

Make a poll between those 2 specific women in apricity orgy and count ONLY the votes of men :bored:

[Mary]

Here is another example of the crazy girlfriend,

NSFW

http://www.redtube.com/203195

[Lena]

2) Yes being a Fuckdoll makes her a 10. because it's something very special and desirable for men. Average isn't desirable.

3) Not all men are into Fuckdolls but all men are into women that are very special.

If she lacks natural sex appeal, something one woman is born with or not, she can do whatever to her body and still be lonely and single all her life. We can all go tomorrow, trow some money on a table and implant bigger breasts, nothing special about it, but it won't change who we are and how other people see us in a RL environment. You're sexy to someone or not, it's simple.

[Acquisitor]

Here is another example of the crazy girlfriend,

NSFW

http://www.redtube.com/203195

what a fake and disgusting smoking piece of ass.

[Mary]

Make a poll between those 2 specific women in apricity orgy and count ONLY the votes of men :bored:

Sure I'll see what I can do.

[Longbowman]

Heterosexual male input: fake breasts may look fine, but they feel terrible. Don't ever get them.

[Mary]

If she lacks natural sex appeal, something one woman is born with or not, she can do whatever to her body and still be lonely and single all her life. We can all go tomorrow, trow some money on a table and implant bigger breasts, nothing special about it, but it won't change who we are and how other people see us in a RL environment. You're sexy to someone or not, it's simple.

Watch this,

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http://www.xvideos.com/video3977691/houston_seduced_by_a_cougar_derrick_pierce_houston _from_http_oqps.net

http://www.xvideos.com/video4091321/houston_from_http_oqps.net

Houston is sex.

[Lena]

Watch this,

NSFW

http://www.xvideos.com/video3977691/houston_seduced_by_a_cougar_derrick_pierce_houston _from_http_oqps.net

http://www.xvideos.com/video4091321/houston_from_http_oqps.net

Houston is sex.

I don't watch such a videos and I am not into girls at all. Thanks anyways, Mary. All I did is giving mho on topic.

[Mary]

Then watch this,



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGBl0fe9MU4


Houston has achieved one of the most desirable ideals to men. A Fuckdoll is only made for the man's pleasure, you can use her in any way you want, and Houston is a living Fuckdoll. A living object of desire. That's what makes her so special.

[Lucifer]

Houston has achieved one of the most desirable ideals to men. A Fuckdoll is only made for the man's pleasure, you can use her in any way you want, and Houston is a living Fuckdoll. A living object of desire. That's what makes her so special.

man....she looks so sick

[blklady2013]

I don't know why but I feel sorry for this Houston character. It's like any spark of life has been extinguished. Is that what it means to be a doll? Ah well, what the hell do I know?

[Longbowman]

Mary, if you're ever in the Greater London area, there are a few psychologists I could recommend.

That woman is a plastic monstrosity.

[Mary]

If you don't like Houston, here have a Feminist,



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvYyGTmcP80

[Longbowman]

Because there's nothing inbetween the plastic monstrosity and the manhater? You seemingly deal only in absolutes. As the line under my name says, I'm into moderation :D

[dude]

Then watch this,


[video=removed video[/video]


Houston has achieved one of the most desirable ideals to men. A Fuckdoll is only made for the man's pleasure, you can use her in any way you want, and Houston is a living Fuckdoll. A living object of desire. That's what makes her so special.

Ewww, what's wrong with that woman's face.

[dude]

If you don't like Houston, here have a Feminist,


[video=removed video[/video]

This is like asking, where do you rather live, north pole or the sand dunes in the Sahara.

[Mary]

These pictures are representative of average women,

http://www.flickr.com/groups/933545@N20/

[Longbowman]

These pictures are representative of average women,

http://www.flickr.com/groups/933545@N20/

Yeah, average women (and men) are pretty disgusting these days, but so is that silicone she-devil.