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Unome
11-22-2013, 10:01 PM
Why did Hitler and the Nazis choose Blonde, blue-eyed people, as their Ubermenschen human archetype?

They could have chosen red hair people with green eyes.

They could have chosen brown hair people with hazel eyes.

They could have chosen black hair people with dark eyes.

But they chose blonde hair people with blue eyes.


Expected response: "Because blonde, blue-eyed people are superior than everybody else, duh!"

That doesn't explain anything. Give some reasons why this ideology was chosen by Hitler and the Nazis. What is a superior race? Is it based on beauty? Are blondes automatically more beautiful than non-blondes? Is it based on achievements? Sweden and Finnland are the most blonde countries in the world, but what have they achieved? Their histories are lackluster and void of achievement/discovery/conquest, compared to some other histories. Is it based on something else?


Expected response: "Well, then, I guess it was based on propaganda?"

Then why choose Blondism, instead of Red-hair-ism? If it was only propaganda then why choose one and not another?

Baldur
11-22-2013, 10:02 PM
Where is the proof that he actually did choose "blondism" ?

Prisoner Of Ice
11-22-2013, 10:04 PM
Yes, why would he choose european features over say, hook noses for master race, being european?

Mysteries like this, we may never know the answer to.

Unome
11-22-2013, 10:04 PM
Where is the proof that he actually did choose "blondism" ?
Maybe it was only the Nazi eugenics officers?

Smaug
11-22-2013, 10:05 PM
Yes, why would he choose european features over say, hook noses for master race, being european?

Mysteries like this, we may never know the answer to.

Don't worry mate. Brown-haired Atlantids like you and me are the true Übermensch, our time is coming.

Shah-Jehan
11-22-2013, 10:06 PM
They didn't really choose "blondism" or anything, a blonde East Baltid Slav wouldn't have still been considered Aryan than would a Nordic German or even Med etc...

Baldur
11-22-2013, 10:06 PM
Maybe it was only the Nazi eugenics officers?

No i think it's a after construction. Because you don't find any proof of him saying blonde are the true aryan master race.

Dombra
11-22-2013, 10:07 PM
Because blonde, blue-eyed people are superior than everybody else, duh!





That doesn't explain anything. Give some reasons why this ideology was chosen by Hitler and the Nazis. What is a superior race? Is it based on beauty? Are blondes automatically more beautiful than non-blondes? Is it based on achievements? Sweden and Finnland are the most blonde countries in the world, but what have they achieved? Their histories are lackluster and void of achievement/discovery/conquest, compared to some other histories. Is it based on something else?


Butthurt Slav Busted :lol:

Cleitus
11-22-2013, 10:07 PM
Baltids Blond Blue Eyed, still Inferior because of Mongoloid admixture, this actually has nothing to do with Pigmentation.

Prisoner Of Ice
11-22-2013, 10:07 PM
Don't worry mate. Brown-haired Atlantids like you and me are the true Übermensch, our time is coming.

I think our time was about 20k years ago, been downhill ever since.

Smaug
11-22-2013, 10:08 PM
I think our time was about 20k years ago, been downhill ever since.

:(

Trun
11-22-2013, 10:08 PM
The ideal was blond, blue-eyed and progressive. Like Nordids are. Nazis didn't regard blond, blue-eyed infantile-like Baltids for ideal.

Moreover, this ideal was only physical. Anceint Greeks also had physical ideal - tall, strong, tanned man and gracile, light-skinned women.

Baldur
11-22-2013, 10:08 PM
Because blonde, blue-eyed people are superior than everybody else, duh!




Butthurt Slav Busted :lol:

lol totally missed that part... :picard1:

Baldur
11-22-2013, 10:09 PM
So is there any proof that he said blonde and blue eyed were the ideal?

Kastrioti1443
11-22-2013, 10:11 PM
The ideal of the nazis was a progressive and tall man of the Nordid CM , Nordo-Faelids or just Nordid pure type. Faelid was also an ideal because it was a germanic CM.

Trun
11-22-2013, 10:12 PM
So is there any proof that he said blonde and blue eyed were the ideal?

Their posters. I think it was even manifested by party members.

But Nordids weren't viewed as superior in other sense rather than pure physical beauty. Ötherwise most Nazi leaders automatically would have become inferior.

Melina
11-22-2013, 10:13 PM
Why did Hitler and the Nazis choose Blonde, blue-eyed people, as their Ubermenschen human archetype?

They could have chosen red hair people with green eyes.

They could have chosen brown hair people with hazel eyes.

They could have chosen black hair people with dark eyes.

But they chose blonde hair people with blue eyes.


Expected response: "Because blonde, blue-eyed people are superior than everybody else, duh!"

That doesn't explain anything. Give some reasons why this ideology was chosen by Hitler and the Nazis. What is a superior race? Is it based on beauty? Are blondes automatically more beautiful than non-blondes? Is it based on achievements? Sweden and Finnland are the most blonde countries in the world, but what have they achieved? Their histories are lackluster and void of achievement/discovery/conquest, compared to some other histories. Is it based on something else?


Expected response: "Well, then, I guess it was based on propaganda?"

Then why choose Blondism, instead of Red-hair-ism? If it was only propaganda then why choose one and not another?

That is not true. The reason you see so much blondes and blue eyed people on most Nazi posters it was because back then most of Germany was like that. Hitler believed that his people were the chosen one and making Germania the center of the world. If I remembered reading correctly the Nazis had some type of board in which would help them classify the people who where ubermensch. They also measured the shape and proportion of the individuals head.

Balmung
11-22-2013, 10:15 PM
Why did Hitler and the Nazis choose Blonde, blue-eyed people, as their Ubermenschen human archetype?

They could have chosen red hair people with green eyes.

They could have chosen brown hair people with hazel eyes.

They could have chosen black hair people with dark eyes.

But they chose blonde hair people with blue eyes.


Expected response: "Because blonde, blue-eyed people are superior than everybody else, duh!"

That doesn't explain anything. Give some reasons why this ideology was chosen by Hitler and the Nazis. What is a superior race? Is it based on beauty? Are blondes automatically more beautiful than non-blondes? Is it based on achievements? Sweden and Finnland are the most blonde countries in the world, but what have they achieved? Their histories are lackluster and void of achievement/discovery/conquest, compared to some other histories. Is it based on something else?


Expected response: "Well, then, I guess it was based on propaganda?"

Then why choose Blondism, instead of Red-hair-ism? If it was only propaganda then why choose one and not another?

Why does everybody always attack innocent Scandinavians first though? Last time I checked Germany, Britain, parts of the Northern Slavic world had fair people too and a crap ton of blue eyed people. Is it just that Scandinavians are the easiest to insult and undermine? I was always curious about that. I guess you can't really insult Britain or Germany when it comes to achievements. So it doesn't workout as nicely lol.

Baldur
11-22-2013, 10:15 PM
Their posters. I think it was even manifested by party members.

But Nordids weren't viewed as superior in other sense rather than pure physical beauty. Ötherwise most Nazi leaders automatically would have become inferior.

There are loads of posters with people with darker hair too. There isn't any real proof that there was a real image that the blondes were superior. It was more about the Germanic race of all kinds.

Kiyant
11-22-2013, 10:15 PM
Baltids Blond Blue Eyed, still Inferior because of Mongoloid admixture, this actually has nothing to do with Pigmentation.

This "mongoloid" feature makes them superiour.

Baldur
11-22-2013, 10:16 PM
Why does everybody always attack innocent Scandinavians first though? Last time I checked Germany, Britain, parts of the Northern Slavic world had fair people too. Is it just that Scandinavians are the easiest to insult and undermine? Was always curious about that. I guess you can't really insult Britain or Germany when it comes to achievements. So it doesn't workout as nicely lol.

Well for being a small country Sweden and Finland has been successful in many fields. Yet people here always love to put our names in their mouth either to prove something or make fun of us.

Trun
11-22-2013, 10:17 PM
That is not true. The reason you see so much blondes and blue eyed people on most Nazi posters it was because back then most of Germany was like that. Hitler believed that his people were the chosen one and making Germania the center of the world. If I remembered reading correctly the Nazis had some type of board in which would help them classify the people who where ubermensch. They also measured the shape and proportion of the individuals head.

This also has some reasoning. After all, Hitler and the Nazis believed Germany was the superior country, and Nordid and Nordid related types are indeed physically the most beautiful from those common there, on average.

Just like if Italians and Greeks had posters, they'd have put Meds on them.

Peyrol
11-22-2013, 10:20 PM
These were example of ''aryan race'' branches in german racist books, and weren't necessarily ''blondes''

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_axm-MXyq_oU/TLy1hBREjhI/AAAAAAAAAwM/ErcYyPRaBe0/s1600/germanraces.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/81/Europaeid_types.jpg

Unome
11-22-2013, 10:21 PM
Maybe I wanted to troll the Swedes/Finns a little bit. :pound:

But the main question is serious. :writing_thinking:

Dombra
11-22-2013, 10:22 PM
Sweden and Finnland are the most blonde countries in the world, but what have they achieved? Their histories are lackluster and void of achievement/discovery/conquest, compared to some other histories.

I forgive you now for saying this since you are an Americanized mess without an identity. If insults are what makes butthurts happy then you have my permission :shrug:

http://0-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/tg/image/1344/81/1344814709024.jpg

Neanderthal
11-22-2013, 10:24 PM
Maybe because blonde hair is 'unique' to Europe or rather more common asociated with.

Smeagol
11-22-2013, 10:24 PM
This "mongoloid" feature makes them superiour.

Baltids don't have Mongoloid features, it's East Baltids who can have Mongoloid/Mongoliform tendencies.

Baluarte
11-22-2013, 10:30 PM
Blondism at best is correlated to his notion of Pan Aryanism.

The 4 main guys of the III Reich weren't blonde. Hitler, Goebbels, Goering and Bormann.

The idea that nazis killed everyone who wasn't blonde and blue eyed is a pitiful piece of propaganda divulged by the Allies.

Virtuous
11-22-2013, 10:36 PM
Blondism at best is correlated to his notion of Pan Aryanism.

The 4 main guys of the III Reich weren't blonde. Hitler, Goebbels, Goering and Bormann.

The idea that nazis killed everyone who wasn't blonde and blue eyed is a pitiful piece of propaganda divulged by the Allies.

NS (for Germany) sought to improve the German "race" to perfection, they did indeed find blondism to be "nice", and so do I, so do others, but it wasn't the KEY element in their racialism, or if it was it wasn't the only one. NS believes in the collectiveness and individual improvement of each Race, say, instead of 3rd worlders being pulled out of their primitive world, either they struggle to evolve or they simply die out of their own will. That is the nietzschean principle.

Prisoner Of Ice
11-22-2013, 11:02 PM
Why does everybody always attack innocent Scandinavians first though? Last time I checked Germany, Britain, parts of the Northern Slavic world had fair people too and a crap ton of blue eyed people. Is it just that Scandinavians are the easiest to insult and undermine? I was always curious about that. I guess you can't really insult Britain or Germany when it comes to achievements. So it doesn't workout as nicely lol.

Because they are racist towards white people and want to wipe them out.

Agron
11-22-2013, 11:14 PM
Maybe because these traits were the most common among germans at that time?

arcticwolf
11-22-2013, 11:29 PM
LOL

Why is this masterpiece in philosophy? Any of you fancy yourself a deep thinker? :laugh:

Unome
11-23-2013, 06:11 AM
I thought to put it in the History section; but I want to know the reasoning of the Nazi eugenicists.

Peyrol
11-23-2013, 10:10 AM
Blondism at best is correlated to his notion of Pan Aryanism.

The 4 main guys of the III Reich weren't blonde. Hitler, Goebbels, Goering and Bormann.

The idea that nazis killed everyone who wasn't blonde and blue eyed is a pitiful piece of propaganda divulged by the Allies.

I can imagine Himmler with a japanese uniform and a katana figgth in China or Korea without any problem

''....ki mi gayo yo hi niii....'''

http://ayay.co.uk/backgrounds/historical/german_world_war_2_colour/portrait-of-Heinrich-Himmler.jpg


...see the differences...


http://www.rubicon.hu/ma_files/Hirohito_uniformisban.jpg

superhorn
01-29-2014, 03:01 AM
Ironically, Hitler was not a blue-eyed blonde himself . There is evidence that he was part Jewish himself by ancestry .

Agron
01-29-2014, 04:52 AM
Ironically, Hitler was not a blue-eyed blonde himself . There is evidence that he was part Jewish himself by ancestry .

bullshit

simple_guy
01-29-2014, 05:00 AM
Simply because, the noblest look consists of :-
Hair : Golden (Not ash blond or dirty blond)
Eye : Deep Blue
Complexion : Ruddy
Facial Structure : Anglo-Saxon/Halstatt-Borreby Mixture
Nose : Stragiht, Slender and Firm
Lips : Sculpted, medium and non-fleshy
Jawline : Distinctive and at an angle
Chin : Jutting forward and chiseled
Cheekbones : visible but not too bony

simple_guy
01-29-2014, 05:00 AM
Ironically, Hitler was not a blue-eyed blonde himself . There is evidence that he was part Jewish himself by ancestry .

he was blue eyed brown haired, regardless of alleged jewish ancestry

rhiannon
01-29-2014, 05:20 AM
LOL
This woman is pretty much a clone of my paternal grandmother.....and where my father inherited his own pale blond hair. Yes, she was German (and Irish).
http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/rhiannon1967/germanraces_zps0a84e69a.jpg

Sehnsucht
01-29-2014, 05:25 AM
The noblest hair color is dark brown. Not black, not blonde, but a dark shade of brown, maybe blackish brown like my maternal grandfather.