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11-25-2013, 10:55 PM
Neo-Nazi’s victory in Slovakia spurs Jewish call for action European Jewish Congress calls for ban of radical right parties after victory in Slovak electionsBY JTA November 25, 2013, 2:48 am 16 Share 5

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European officials must act to reverse the momentum of neo-Nazi political parties, the head of the European Jewish Congress said following a victory in Slovakia by a neo-Nazi candidate.

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EJC President Moshe Kantor issued a statement Sunday in the wake of the victory by Marian Kotleba, the ex-chairman of the banned Togetherness National Party.


Kotleba in a second round of voting over the weekend defeated the Social Democrat incumbent to become president of the self-governing region around the central city of Banska Bystica.

“The neo-Nazis are gaining many political victories and are using the democratic system against democrats,” Kantor said. “Democracy has to fight back and European officials should immediately create a plan of action, including the proscription of neo-Nazi political parties, to deal with this phenomenon before it is too late.

“We hope the Greek model of suspending state funding for the Golden Dawn party and the revocation of parliamentary immunity for its members will be enacted elsewhere in Europe and form the basis of the opposition.”

The Slovak Spectator newspaper said Kotleba “frequently organized and participated in anti-Roma demonstrations or marches commemorating the Nazi-allied wartime Slovak state and its president Jozef Tiso. He has been detained and charged repeatedly for crimes, including racial defamation.”

The German DPA news agency described Kotleba as being known for his “agitation against the Roma minority as well as for appearing in uniforms modeled upon fascist styles.”

http://www.timesofisrael.com/neo-nazis-victory-in-slovakia-spurs-jewish-call-for-action/

Crn Volk
11-25-2013, 11:47 PM
Seems like the right is on it's way back in Europe

Prisoner Of Ice
11-25-2013, 11:50 PM
Fucking democracy, we must destroy it!

:picard1:

Szegedist
11-26-2013, 12:00 AM
It's Besztercebánya, not "banska bystrica".

And I agree that the slovak national clown party should be banned.

Look at this clown, who does he think he is lol...
http://img.topky.sk/big/35435.jpg/slovenska-pospolitost-marian-kotleba.jpg

no imagination whatsoever, and looks pretty inbred too (they all do)

Crn Volk
11-26-2013, 02:12 AM
It's Besztercebánya, not "banska bystrica".

And I agree that the slovak national clown party should be banned.

Look at this clown, who does he think he is lol...
http://img.topky.sk/big/35435.jpg/slovenska-pospolitost-marian-kotleba.jpg

no imagination whatsoever, and looks pretty inbred too (they all do)

Fuck off Magyar....Slavs are racially superior to you turko-mongols

Anglojew
11-26-2013, 02:22 AM
Slovaks have always contrasted with Czechs on Jewish issues. Czechs being possibly the most philo-Semitic populations in Europe.

Are there any Jews in Slovakia anyway? Short answer - care factor 0

Fortis in Arduis
11-26-2013, 06:43 AM
Slovaks have always contrasted with Czechs on Jewish issues. Czechs being possibly the most philo-Semitic populations in Europe.

Are there any Jews in Slovakia anyway? Short answer - care factor 0

This uniform clown party probably exists because of tensions with the Roma community in Slovakia. This is just democracy.

Siberyak
11-26-2013, 06:45 AM
He was democratically elected. I don't see the Problem here.

blogen
11-26-2013, 06:49 AM
Fuck off Magyar....Slavs are racially superior to you turko-mongols

Now Macedonians are Slavs? Last time the Macedonian were ancient gays? :naughty:

http://anotherexilefromparadise.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/alexander-the-great.jpg

blogen
11-26-2013, 06:53 AM
It's Besztercebánya, not "banska bystrica".
And I agree that the slovak national clown party should be banned.
Look at this clown, who does he think he is lol...
http://img.topky.sk/big/35435.jpg/slovenska-pospolitost-marian-kotleba.jpg
no imagination whatsoever, and looks pretty inbred too (they all do)

Only the guard's size the difference (Kotleba has only a company size paramilitary troops, but the full Hungarian Guard is division size):
http://www.raoulwallenberg.net/wp-content/uploads/spiegel_budapestexperiences1.jpg
(Hungarian Guard new recruits on the picture)

Szegedist
11-26-2013, 01:39 PM
Slovaks have always contrasted with Czechs on Jewish issues. Czechs being possibly the most philo-Semitic populations in Europe.

Are there any Jews in Slovakia anyway? Short answer - care factor 0

Slovaks PAID the Germans to take their Jews away...

Hungarian politician János Esterházy was the only politician in Slovakia to stand up for the Jews http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A1nos_Esterh%C3%A1zy

Kiyant
11-26-2013, 01:41 PM
Fuck off Magyar....Slavs are racially superior to you turko-mongols

They are neither of the two they are Magyar :)

Szegedist
11-26-2013, 01:41 PM
Fuck off Magyar....Slavs are racially superior to you turko-mongols

Subhuman Fyromonkey, Hungarians and Slovaks are racially almost identical, with Hungarians being superior as proven by history.
You are a swarthy unibrowed mongrel midget slavovlach subhuman.

Kiyant
11-26-2013, 01:43 PM
Subhuman Fyromonkey, Hungarians and Slovaks are racially almost identical, with Hungarians being superior as proven by history.
You are a swarthy unibrowed mongrel midget slavovlach subhuman.

LOL
That was impressive Viktor.

Szegedist
11-26-2013, 01:44 PM
Only the guard's size the difference (Kotleba has only a company size paramilitary troops, but the full Hungarian Guard is division size):
http://www.raoulwallenberg.net/wp-content/uploads/spiegel_budapestexperiences1.jpg
(Hungarian Guard new recruits on the picture)

The Magyar Gárda uniform is based on a traditional Hungarian clothing. The purpose of the Garda was to protect civilians (gendarme). It is not a paramilitary, but a civilian guard.

The aim of kotleba's clowns is to make themselves look like Nazis and to harras others.

Szegedist
11-26-2013, 01:52 PM
The Hungarian Guard put down sandbags when the Danube flooded and distributes food to homeless and poor.

The Slovak guard beats non slovaks and defaces Hungarian town signs and statues.

See the difference?

Virtuous
11-26-2013, 02:06 PM
The Right is on the rise, and Rightly so. Europe has just had enough of this multicultural/racial liberal marxist bullshit. This is a battle of Blood, Nature, Spirituality, Integrity, Values and Race against Soul-less modernity, currency and consumerism.

blogen
11-26-2013, 02:07 PM
The Magyar Gárda uniform is based on a traditional Hungarian clothing. The purpose of the Garda was to protect civilians (gendarme). It is not a paramilitary, but a civilian guard.
The aim of kotleba's clowns is to make themselves look like Nazis and to harras others.

What traditional clothing? :D

Petros Houhoulis
11-26-2013, 02:11 PM
It's Besztercebánya, not "banska bystrica".

And I agree that the slovak national clown party should be banned.

Look at this clown, who does he think he is lol...
http://img.topky.sk/big/35435.jpg/slovenska-pospolitost-marian-kotleba.jpg

no imagination whatsoever, and looks pretty inbred too (they all do)

Only a wannabe Hun could wear St. Istvans' cross...

blogen
11-26-2013, 02:42 PM
Only a wannabe Hun could wear St. Istvans' cross...

The Slovakian symbols are Hungarian origins, but the Patriarchal cross is Byzantine origin between the Hungary state symbols. Béla III (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A9la_III_of_Hungary) was the first user, he was Byzantine crown prince and he adopted the symbol in Hungary.

http://katalogus.numismatics.hu/images/eh101budarex2013nov.jpg

sturmwalkure
11-26-2013, 02:47 PM
The Right is on the rise, and Rightly so. Europe has just had enough of this multicultural/racial liberal marxist bullshit. This is a battle of Blood, Nature, Spirituality, Integrity, Values and Race against Soul-less modernity, currency and consumerism.

Indeed, this is excellent news. :D

Szegedist
11-26-2013, 02:55 PM
What traditional clothing? :D

http://pctrs.network.hu/clubpicture/4/5/4/_/nepviselet_454254_77158_n.jpg
http://0.tqn.com/d/goeasteurope/1/0/M/N/-/-/mens-and-womans-folk-costumes-hungary.jpg
http://www.clevelandpeople.com/images/hungarian/hungarian-garden-2008/hungarian-youth-flag.jpg
http://img16.aprod.hu/images_aprodhu/879487_4_644x461_alice-gaborjan-ungarische-volkstrachten-magyar-nepviseletek-konyv-ujsag.jpg

and even
http://www.szekelymagyarkanadaiegyesulet.com/art/Szekely-nepviselet.jpg



Don't bother replying, because you will probably once again try to undermine everything.

Szegedist
11-26-2013, 02:57 PM
This is a battle of Blood, Nature, Spirituality, Integrity, Values and Race against Soul-less modernity, currency and consumerism.

Lol, one loser wins in a region of an insignificant non-nation, and you start your neo nazi esoteric masturbation :laugh:

blogen
11-26-2013, 03:03 PM
Don't bother replying, because you will probably once again try to undermine everything.

Sorry, but Hungarian Guards' uniform is a weird mix of the People's Army costume traditions and various Hungarian folk costumes.

Szegedist
11-26-2013, 03:06 PM
Sorry, but Hungarian Guards' uniform is a weird mix of the People's Army costume traditions and various Hungarian folk costumes.

I didn't design it, and I don't wear it. If you have problems you can send them an email with your complaint.

Anyway, the original MG has been banned, and now there are other uniforms.

Szegedist
11-26-2013, 03:11 PM
Indeed, this is excellent news. :D

You do realize that based on your looks, this guy would mistake you for a gypsy in Slovakia and treat you as such?

Its the equivalent of a hook nosed Armenoid supporting anti-semitic nazis :laugh:

Virtuous
11-26-2013, 03:20 PM
Lol, one loser wins in a region of an insignificant non-nation, and you start your neo nazi esoteric masturbation :laugh:

Don't know what grudge you hold and why. But it's a good sign, and it's not only this particular unimportant region as you say, but many Nations are turning to the Right, as they haven't found any essence in the centrist and opportunist parties.

YeshAtid
11-26-2013, 04:53 PM
Hopefully these scum will be booted out of office once the pernicious doctrine of "multiculturalism" is rid of. Go give it to the niggers instead.

Kastrioti1443
11-26-2013, 04:56 PM
It's Besztercebánya, not "banska bystrica".

And I agree that the slovak national clown party should be banned.

Look at this clown, who does he think he is lol...
http://img.topky.sk/big/35435.jpg/slovenska-pospolitost-marian-kotleba.jpg

no imagination whatsoever, and looks pretty inbred too (they all do)


It is pretty intersting how the most nazi people today, or the nazi leaders of europe today all look like mongrels.

Szegedist
11-26-2013, 05:09 PM
It is pretty intersting how the most nazi people today, or the nazi leaders of europe today all look like mongrels.

That guy is not mongrel, but the opposite, he is inbred. If you look at his face you can see incestoid features.

Kastrioti1443
11-26-2013, 07:18 PM
That guy is not mongrel, but the opposite, he is inbred. If you look at his face you can see incestoid features.

That is terrible.

Methusalem
11-26-2013, 07:38 PM
You do realize that based on your looks, this guy would mistake you for a gypsy in Slovakia and treat you as such?

Its the equivalent of a hook nosed Armenoid supporting anti-semitic nazis
Its the equivalent of a hook nosed Armenoid supporting anti-semitic nazis
Its the equivalent of a hook nosed Armenoid supporting anti-semitic nazis
Its the equivalent of a hook nosed Armenoid supporting anti-semitic nazis
Its the equivalent of a hook nosed Armenoid supporting anti-semitic nazis
Its the equivalent of a hook nosed Armenoid supporting anti-semitic nazis
Its the equivalent of a hook nosed Armenoid supporting anti-semitic nazis
:laugh:

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

http://www.troll.me/images/deidric/aaaahh-thats-my-nigga.jpg

Crn Volk
11-26-2013, 10:42 PM
Subhuman Fyromonkey, Hungarians and Slovaks are racially almost identical, with Hungarians being superior as proven by history.
You are a swarthy unibrowed mongrel midget slavovlach subhuman.

Fuck off cunt, now go try and take Vojvodina...HUN

Szegedist
11-26-2013, 10:49 PM
Fuck off cunt, now go try and take Vojvodina...HUN

While your post on here, Albanians are fucking your sisters and naming them Kastrioti. What are you going to do FYROMonkey?

Crn Volk
11-26-2013, 11:00 PM
While your post on here, Albanians are fucking your sisters and naming them Kastrioti. What are you going to do FYROMonkey?

And Romanians, Serbs and Slovaks are doing the same to your sisters...although naming them something different...

Szegedist
11-26-2013, 11:07 PM
And Romanians, Serbs and Slovaks are doing the same to your sisters...although naming them something different...

They wish :laugh:

portusaus
11-26-2013, 11:11 PM
And now we wait for the dough to rise.

HellLander87
11-26-2013, 11:12 PM
And Romanians, Serbs and Slovaks are doing the same to your sisters...although naming them something different...
No sane european man would touch a mongoloid woman

Crn Volk
11-26-2013, 11:15 PM
No sane european man would touch a mongoloid woman

lol. you have a point

Szegedist
11-26-2013, 11:15 PM
No sane european man would touch a mongoloid woman

Mongoloid woman > mongrel mustached greek woman

Swearengen
11-26-2013, 11:22 PM
Neo-Nazi’s victory in Slovakia spurs Jewish call for action European Jewish Congress calls for ban of radical right parties after victory in Slovak electionsBY JTA November 25, 2013, 2:48 am 16 Share 5

“The neo-Nazis are gaining many political victories and are using the democratic system against democrats,” Kantor said. “Democracy has to fight back and European officials should immediately create a plan of action, including the proscription of neo-Nazi political parties, to deal with this phenomenon before it is too late.


He wants to ban nationalistic parties and has the nerve to call a democratically elected official un-democratic :picard2:

I have noticed a stark contrast in people's views now compared to even a year ago regarding immigration and multiculturalism. Nationalism does seem to be on the rise.

HellLander87
11-26-2013, 11:22 PM
Mongoloid woman< mongrel mustached greek woman
they shave it nowadays.lol

Baluarte
11-26-2013, 11:28 PM
Fuck off Magyar....Slavs are racially superior to you turko-mongols

Any man capable of reading a wikipedia article will soon realise how meaningless Slovaks are compared to Hungarians.

Crn Volk
11-26-2013, 11:45 PM
Any man capable of reading a wikipedia article will soon realise how meaningless Slovaks are compared to Hungarians.

and yet rule over quite a few magyars

Szegedist
11-26-2013, 11:50 PM
and yet rule over quite a few magyars

The territory of slovakia became part of Hungary 1100 years ago, and until 1920 it was part of Hungary.

slovakia is a fake state created by the West, who created a so called "slovakia" out of what used to be Northern Hungary. They dont "rule" over us, and certainly not by their own achievement.

slovakia, just like FYROMonkia are two loser states with no history, no culture, no achievements of their own.


Naturally you seek solidarity with slovakia, because they are a fake state&nation, just like you.

FYROM = stolen Albanian and Bulgarian land.

Petros Houhoulis
11-26-2013, 11:59 PM
No sane european man would touch a mongoloid woman

My boy, those people are Huns in name only, and perhaps in language - perhaps!

Does Cicciolina look Hunnic to you? Not to mention a few dozen more blonde and blue-eyed "Hunnic" chicks...

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 12:00 AM
My boy, those people are Huns in name only, amd perhaps in language - perhaps!

Just like Greeks are Hellenes in the name only?

PS, we call ourselves Magyars.

Petros Houhoulis
11-27-2013, 12:04 AM
The Slovakian symbols are Hungarian origins, but the Patriarchal cross is Byzantine origin between the Hungary state symbols. Béla III (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A9la_III_of_Hungary) was the first user, he was Byzantine crown prince and he adopted the symbol in Hungary.

http://katalogus.numismatics.hu/images/eh101budarex2013nov.jpg

Well, ironically it didn't catch up in the Eastern Roman world. Ironically, your "friends" the Russkis use a variation of that cross!

Petros Houhoulis
11-27-2013, 12:05 AM
Just like Greeks are Hellenes in the name only?

PS, we call ourselves Magyars.

Actually, we also use the name Hellenes for ourselves! The others call us Greeks or Yunan (Ionians).

HellLander87
11-27-2013, 12:05 AM
The territory of slovakia became part of Hungary 1100 years ago, and until 1920 it was part of Hungary.


wtf?Asiatic Mongols claiming territory in europe and insulting europeans.
You think that romania belongs to you, slovakia belongs to you, blah ,blah,blah
What belongs to you is a shithole in siberia.
Ride your whores asap and return where you came from.

Crn Volk
11-27-2013, 12:08 AM
The territory of slovakia became part of Hungary 1100 years ago, and until 1920 it was part of Hungary.

slovakia is a fake state created by the West, who created a so called "slovakia" out of what used to be Northern Hungary. They dont "rule" over us, and certainly not by their own achievement.

slovakia, just like FYROMonkia are two loser states with no history, no culture, no achievements of their own.


Naturally you seek solidarity with slovakia, because they are a fake state&nation, just like you.

FYROM = stolen Albanian and Bulgarian land.

Slovaks are my Slavic brothers and I feel solidarity with them for that

Petros Houhoulis
11-27-2013, 12:08 AM
Any man capable of reading a wikipedia article will soon realise how meaningless Slovaks are compared to Hungarians.

I wouldn't say "meaningless", but their historical track record certainly won't impress anybody within Europe...

On the other hand, the "Huns" are a rather consistent force during the last thousand years or so.

Petros Houhoulis
11-27-2013, 12:09 AM
Slovaks are my Slavic brothers and I feel solidarity with them for that

The Slovaks are in the European Union, you belong to "whatever" Albania...

...It's quite a difference. Do the Slovaks know of you?

HellLander87
11-27-2013, 12:10 AM
My boy, those people are Huns in name only, and perhaps in language - perhaps!

Does Cicciolina look Hunnic to you? Not to mention a few dozen more blonde and blue-eyed "Hunnic" chicks...
bravo pare to meros toy toyrkoy

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 12:10 AM
Slovaks are my Slavic brothers and I feel solidarity with them for that

WHy dont you embrace your Bulgarian Slavic brothers. After all, you are a Bulgarian too, are you not?

Btw I thought FYROMonkeys were supposed to be Macedonians and not Slavs?

Petros Houhoulis
11-27-2013, 12:12 AM
wtf?Asiatic Mongols claiming territory in europe and insulting europeans.
You think that romania belongs to you, slovakia belongs to you, blah ,blah,blah
What belongs to you is a shithole in siberia.
Ride your whores asap and return where you came from.

Calm down kid. They feel isolated because of linguistics, and it is pointless to deny that they have important minorities outside of their soil. Of course, they used to dominate over other peoples for centuries, and thus they should not complain much of receiving the same treatment since Trianon...

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 12:12 AM
wtf?Asiatic Mongols claiming territory in europe and insulting europeans.
You think that romania belongs to you, slovakia belongs to you, blah ,blah,blah
What belongs to you is a shithole in siberia.
Ride your whores asap and return where you came from.

Lol, Hungary is one of the oldest Kingdoms in Europe.

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 12:15 AM
Of course, they used to dominate over other peoples for centuries, and thus they should not complain much of receiving the same treatment since Trianon...

????

Baluarte
11-27-2013, 12:17 AM
I wouldn't say "meaningless", but their historical track record certainly won't impress anybody within Europe...

On the other hand, the "Huns" are a rather consistent force during the last thousand years or so.

Agreed. Hungary was easily the most important political entity in Central Eastern Europe, the shield of Catholicism against the Ottomans. I don't know why some random people feel entitled to diminish them and call them Mongols, when they're historically and even genetically more European than most countries out there...

Petros Houhoulis
11-27-2013, 12:18 AM
bravo pare to meros toy toyrkoy

Kinda funny you know, because our Roman ancestors declared them to be Turks!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Crown_of_Hungary#Corona_Gr.C3.A6ca


To the right there is a picture of the Hungarian King Géza I (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A9za_I) (1074–1077), with the Greek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language) inscription: "ΓΕΩΒΙΤZΑC ΠΙΣΤΟC ΚΡΑΛΗC ΤΟΥΡΚΙΑC" (Geōbitzas pistós králēs Tourkías, meaning "Géza I (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A9za_I), faithful kralj (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kralj) of the land of the Turks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungary)"). The contemporary Byzantine name for the Hungarians was "Turks", while the Hungarian branch of the Greek Orthodox Church (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Orthodox_Church), under Constantinople (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecumenical_Patriarchate_of_Constantinople)'s jurisdiction, was named the "Metropolitanate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_%28religious_jurisdiction%29) of Tourkia" (Hungary), and the head of this church was the "Metropolitan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_bishop) of Tourkia" (Hungary).[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Crown_of_Hungary#cite_note-4)

Nevertheless, their history is certainly European and interwoven with that of our East Roman empire as well as the Papacy, rather than the history of Turkey. Historically, they have been adversaries of the Ottomans, with legends like Hunyadi, and they lost their status after the slaughter of their nobles by the Ottomans during the battle of Mohacs.

Just because a few idiots of theirs feel related to the "great Turan" does not mean that they are really related to the "great Turan". In fact their language clusters mostly with Finnic and Estonian, rather than with Turkish...

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 12:19 AM
I don't know why some random people feel entitled to diminish them

Envy, jealousy, etc.

Petros Houhoulis
11-27-2013, 12:21 AM
????

Well, you were subordinate to the Austrians, but you ruled over much of Slovenia, Croatia, Romania, Bosnia-Herzegovina e.t.c., and these people were not Magyars like you, were they?

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 12:24 AM
Well, you were subordinate to the Austrians, but you ruled over much of Slovenia, Croatia, Romania, Bosnia-Herzegovina e.t.c., and these people were not Magyars like you, were they?

The middle ages were not the same as the 19th or 20th century.
Nobles ruled lands, and the people that were ruled were the peasants.

Or are you talking about the vassal states?

Swearengen
11-27-2013, 12:27 AM
The middle ages were not the same as the 19th or 20th century.
Nobles ruled lands, and the people that were ruled were the peasants.

Or are you talking about the vassal states?

Wasn't it like that even in the 19th century?

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 12:28 AM
Anyway, Hungary was never an ethnic/racial unit. Maybe you Greeks have a racist worldview (just see Golden Dawn), but Hungary was always defined as a political, geographical, national unit.

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 12:29 AM
Wasn't it like that even in the 19th century?

In the 19th century we did not rule over other nations, we had no vassal states or conquered territories. If you mean Bosnia, then no because it was not part of Hungary.

HellLander87
11-27-2013, 12:36 AM
Kinda funny you know, because our Roman ancestors declared them to be Turks!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Crown_of_Hungary#Corona_Gr.C3.A6ca






Nevertheless, their history is certainly European and interwoven with that of our East Roman empire as well as the Papacy, rather than the history of Turkey. Historically, they have been adversaries of the Ottomans, with legends like Hunyadi, and they lost their status after the slaughter of their nobles by the Ottomans during the battle of Mohacs.

Just because a few idiots of theirs feel related to the "great Turan" does not mean that they are really related to the "great Turan". In fact their language clusters mostly with Finnic and Estonian, rather than with Turkish...
telika kala to xa piasei me tin proti:p
diafono me ola osa eipes dystyxos.

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 12:40 AM
telika kala to xa piasei me tin proti:p
diafono me ola osa eipes dystyxos.

What did you say? Google translate doesnt do Berber..

HellLander87
11-27-2013, 12:49 AM
Envy, jealousy, etc.
hahahahahahahahaha
Once again you made my mood good vik.
A GREEK has no such things as envy and jealousy.You don't know what are you talking about.
A GREEK is only allowed to have CONTEMPT.

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 12:54 AM
hahahahahahahahaha
Once again you made my mood good vik.
A GREEK has no such things as envy and jealousy.You don't know what are you talking about.
A GREEK is only allowed to have CONTEMPT.

I wasnt thinking of greeks when I wrote that post, but our "traditional" enemies.

Crn Volk
11-27-2013, 01:30 AM
WHy dont you embrace your Bulgarian Slavic brothers. After all, you are a Bulgarian too, are you not?

Btw I thought FYROMonkeys were supposed to be Macedonians and not Slavs?

just like you are huns??

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 01:31 AM
just like you are huns??

What?

Crn Volk
11-27-2013, 01:36 AM
What?

2 min search from wiki;


Theophylactus Simocatta states, "Hunnougour, descendants of the Hun hords".

Scholarios
11-27-2013, 01:38 AM
Slovaks and Slovak culture represent the furthest extension of Byzantine culture... before Uniatism, a bulwark of East Romanism in Central Europe. The missions of Cyril and Methodius were directed there and the first conflicts between Western Europe and Orthodox Europe took place. I wouldn't say they are irrelevant.

Though the Nazi stuff is ridiculous. But they've always been sort of implicated in that stuff since Tuka and Tiso.

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 01:40 AM
Slovaks and Slovak culture represent the furthest extension of Byzantine culture... before Uniatism, a bulwark of East Romanism in Central Europe.


What?

The Slovak ethnogenesis happened within the Kingdom of Hungary, and their culture is what they inherited from the Kingdom of Hungary.

Scholarios
11-27-2013, 01:52 AM
What?


What?

The Slovak ethnogenesis happened within the Kingdom of Hungary, and their culture is what they inherited from the Kingdom of Hungary.

So how many Hungarians belong to a Uniate Church? Maybe I just don't know enough about Hungary...but as far as I am aware, your Uniates are all Ruthenians, Slovaks, and even Serbs.

Even Bulgarians ethnogenesis happened or strengthened in Byzantine territory or occupation, nonetheless they became a distinct culture.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-GhMlYNZVSqY/SK66hIlfEeI/AAAAAAAAATQ/z6R4__GmzLI/DSCF5529-.JPG

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 01:58 AM
So how many Hungarians belong to a Uniate Church? Maybe I just don't know enough about Hungary...but as far as I am aware, your Uniates are all Ruthenians, Slovaks, and even Serbs.


Slovakia is even more Catholic than Hungary by %.

Slovakia has 206,871 Greek Catholics (mostly Rusyns, Slovjaks or whatever), Hungary 179,176 .

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-GhMlYNZVSqY/SK66hIlfEeI/AAAAAAAAATQ/z6R4__GmzLI/DSCF5529-.JPG

The Apostholic Cross of Hungary.

Scholarios
11-27-2013, 02:05 AM
Slovakia is even more Catholic than Hungary by %.

Slovakia has 206,871 Greek Catholics (mostly Rusyns, Slovjaks or whatever), Hungary 179,176 .


The Apostholic Cross of Hungary.

It's clearly both the Cross of St. Stephen, as well as the Cross of Lorraine (brought by the German prince) and the national symbol of Lithuania as well as the Russian, Ruthenian, Romanian, South Slavic and even ocassionally Greek symbol of the Byzantine church. I am not pissing on Hungarians or something, I am just sticking up for the ol' Slovaks. They are uniates with a tradition that clearly goes back to Cyril and Methodius- which they have defended against their neighbors. It's no slight against Hungary ( I think?)

The Slovakia Nazi party is pathetic though, I suppose.

HellLander87
11-27-2013, 02:05 AM
Agreed. Hungary was easily the most important political entity in Central Eastern Europe, the shield of Catholicism against the Ottomans. I don't know why some random people feel entitled to diminish them and call them Mongols, when they're historically and even genetically more European than most countries out there...
I see you wonder why one feels entitles:p to call them Mongols.1.because they are partially descendants of Mongols(I call them mongols, you call them asiatic magyars however you wish),they indentify as such and speak their language.(not to mention that many are pro-turanic)
A european may feel contempt for the asiatic mongol horsearcher INVADER,but what should he feel for those that bowed their head to such a piece of shit.Nothing than more contempt.Whichever way you take you end up to feel contempt for them.Magyars are bad example since their ethnogenesis.It means to bow your head to the invader,it means not to respect your brothers(many hate slavs,romanians etc),it means to become a traitor ,it means to sell yourself like a whore,it means to compromise.Respect the Magyars today, welcome the Chinese tomorrow.And genetics are for animals not for people..

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 02:07 AM
It's clearly both the Cross of St. Stephen, as well as the Cross of Lorraine (brought by the German prince) and the national symbol of Lithuania as well as the Russian, Ruthenian, Romanian, South Slavic and even ocassionally Greek symbol of the Byzantine church. I am not pissing on Hungarians or something, I am just sticking up for the ol' Slovaks. They are uniates with a tradition that clearly goes back to Cyril and Methodius- which they have defended against their neighbors. It's no slight against Hungary ( I think?)

The Slovakia Nazi party is pathetic though, I suppose.

Man, Slovaks are mostly Catholics (even more Catholic than Hungarians), the Greek Orthodox in Slovakia (and Hungary) are from the Rusyns.

How did Slovaks defend it against their neigbours? Slovakia did not exist, not as a state, not as a nation in those days.

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 02:11 AM
I see you wonder why one feels entitles:p to call them Mongols.1.because they are partially descendants of Mongols(I call them mongols, you call them asiatic magyars however you wish),they indentify as such and speak their language.(not to mention that many are pro-turanic)
A european may feel contempt for the asiatic mongol horsearcher INVADER,but what should he feel for those that bowed their head to such a piece of shit.Nothing than more contempt.Whichever way you take you end up to feel contempt for them.Magyars and are bad example since their ethnogenesis.It means to bow your head to the invader,it means not to respect your brothers(many hate slavs,romanians etc),it means to become a traitor ,it means to sell yourself like a whore,it means to compromise.Respect the Magyars today, welcome the Chinese tomorrow.And genetics are for animals not for people.People act guided by their spirit.

Listen you piece of shit, you are a unibrowed mongrel from north africa who betrayed his Berber brothers and started speaking the Greek language.

You should be shipped back to North Africa where your ancestors came from 200 years ago.


it means to become a traitor ,it means to sell yourself like a whore,
To be a Greeks means to be a faggot mongrel Greek speaking berber-vlach with the work ethnic and mentality of a jungle monkey.



Anyway, it's not a competition, but for sure Hungarians are more European than "greeks" , unless you count the corrupted byzantine gypsy mentality as european.

Scholarios
11-27-2013, 02:12 AM
Man, Slovaks are mostly Catholics (even more Catholic than Hungarians), the Greek Orthodox in Slovakia (and Hungary) are from the Rusyns.

How did Slovaks defend it against their neigbours? Slovakia did not exist, not as a state, not as a nation in those days.

They are so tied to Ruthenians, I can't exactly distinguish them. But of course most of them have entirely changed over to Roman Catholicism (or even Protestantism) these days. I mean, we can just switch around and say Ruthenians or whatever. They are heirs to the oldest Christian tradition of Hungary. I thought this was interesting from the life of Cyril (Constantine)

And while he (Constantine) was reciting the prayer of the first hour, Hungarians fell upon him howling like wolves and wishing to kill him. But he was not frightened and did not forsake his prayers, crying out only, "Lord, have mercy!", for he had already completed the office. Seeing him, they were calmed by God's design and began to bow to him. And upon hearing edifying words from his lips, they released him and his entire retinue in peace.
—The Life of Constantine



What you got againt Slovakians anyways? I am Just curious.

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 02:21 AM
What you got againt Slovakians anyways? I am Just curious.

I hate the fake slovak "nation" and "state", their political elite. But I have no need to hate the average Slovak person. We have a lot in common (we shared the past 1000 years of history), we were in the same state for more than a 1000 years, and culturally they are very similar to us.

The thing I hate about them the most is their inferiority complex and butthurtness. Their political elite brainwashes them that we are the evil oppressors and occupiers, while they are our eternal victims... But what they forget is that if you remove Hungarian history from Slovakia, then its just a barren mountanous wasteland where nothing ever interesting happened.

HellLander87
11-27-2013, 02:32 AM
Listen you piece of shit, you are a unibrowed mongrel from north africa who betrayed his Berber brothers and started speaking the Greek language.

You should be shipped back to North Africa where your ancestors came from 200 years ago.


To be a Greeks means to be a faggot mongrel Greek speaking berber-vlach with the work ethnic and mentality of a jungle monkey.



Anyway, it's not a competition, but for sure Hungarians are more European than "greeks" , unless you count the corrupted byzantine gypsy mentality as european.
To be a Greek is the exact opposite from what I said about magyars.And it means no to have bown your head to Mongols.That by itself is enough to take pride for.

Scholarios
11-27-2013, 02:36 AM
I hate the fake slovak "nation" and "state", their political elite. But I have no need to hate the average Slovak person. We have a lot in common (we shared the past 1000 years of history), we were in the same state for more than a 1000 years, and culturally they are very similar to us.

The thing I hate about them the most is their inferiority complex and butthurtness. Their political elite brainwashes them that we are the evil oppressors and occupiers, while they are our eternal victims... But what they forget is that if you remove Hungarian history from Slovakia, then its just a barren mountanous wasteland where nothing ever interesting happened.

I see your point in a way. but no country who was once part of an empire is any different... you should see Koreans talk about Japanese...

Rudel
11-27-2013, 02:40 AM
http://www.raoulwallenberg.net/wp-content/uploads/spiegel_budapestexperiences1.jpg
(Hungarian Guard new recruits on the picture)

Nice effort, but they look like city police. And do I see a girl in there ?

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 02:56 AM
To be a Greek is the exact opposite from what I said about magyars.And it means no to have bown your head to Mongols.That by itself is enough to take pride for.

We dont bow our heads to anyone. As for Mongols, they invaded us and we fought against them, not bowed to them.

You bow(ed) your heads to Turks, to Arabs, to Serbs, to the IMF, so on.
What is a vlacho-arab to talk about pride?

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 02:59 AM
I see your point in a way. but no country who was once part of an empire is any different... you should see Koreans talk about Japanese...

Hungary wasn't an empire (well at some points it was, but Slovakia was not part of the empire, but Hungary proper). historically it was nothing more than Northern Hungary.

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 03:06 AM
To be a Greek is the exact opposite from what I said about magyars.And it means no to have bown your head to Mongols.That by itself is enough to take pride for.

Btw, why does a north african-slav-vlach mix take pride in bowing down to a long extinct people (The Hellenes), imitating their language and even culture and religion?

Strange...

HellLander87
11-27-2013, 03:33 AM
We dont bow our heads to anyone. As for Mongols, they invaded us and we fought against them, not bowed to them.

You bow(ed) your heads to Turks, to Arabs, to Serbs, to the IMF, so on.
What is a vlacho-arab to talk about pride?
You "Turanian" ," West European"(lol,wtf?) arrogant hatefull shit,bowing your head to asiatics doesn't mean to lose stones,it means to lose your identity and soul.And your Vlach and Slav ancestors lost it to the Asiatic magyars from siberia.My ancestors never bowed their head to Turks and I am proud of them.
You take pride in changing from european,to Mongol,to "Turano-european".That's fucked up man lol.Since you are magyars from the great turan why do you take pride in fighting your turk cousins?From wherever you start you are traitors both as "europeans" and as mongols.Bowing head to asiatics and then fighting against them.lol

Kiyant
11-27-2013, 04:47 AM
You "Turanian" ," West European"(lol,wtf?) arrogant hatefull shit,bowing your head to asiatics doesn't mean to lose stones,it means to lose your identity and soul.And your Vlach and Slav ancestors lost it to the Asiatic magyars from siberia.My ancestors never bowed their head to Turks and I am proud of them.
You take pride in changing from european,to Mongol,to "Turano-european".That's fucked up man lol.Since you are magyars from the great turan why do you take pride in fighting your turk cousins?From wherever you start you are traitors both as "europeans" and as mongols.Bowing head to asiatics and then fighting against them.lol
Yeah your ancestors never bowed down they only did it for 600 years to asiatic Turks.
Also Magyars are EURASIAN they didnt look like Mongolians or Japanese they like the Turks were always mixed but the Hungarians were more on the caucasian side.

blogen
11-27-2013, 04:48 AM
Man, Slovaks are mostly Catholics (even more Catholic than Hungarians), the Greek Orthodox in Slovakia (and Hungary) are from the Rusyns.

How did Slovaks defend it against their neigbours? Slovakia did not exist, not as a state, not as a nation in those days.

Cyril and Metod was a Byzantine experiment onto the expansion of the Byzantine sphere of interest. It was unsuccessful experiments the pope and the Germans-Hungarian alliance quickly eliminated. This was the reason of the German-Hungarian wars against the Moravians. So this experiment was one of the antecedent of the Hungarian conquest.

Ironic that the Slovaks are proud of the Byzantine agents whom caused the Moravian state's fall.

http://udalosti.noviny.sk/uploads/tx_media_files/thumbs/800x448/cyril_a_metod_38381.jpg

blogen
11-27-2013, 04:56 AM
Nice effort, but they look like city police. And do I see a girl in there ?

There are girls in the guard and fundamentally the civil militia is their task. They patrol on the problematic settlements for example.

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 10:24 AM
You "Turanian" ," West European"(lol,wtf?) arrogant hatefull shit,bowing your head to asiatics doesn't mean to lose stones,it means to lose your identity and soul.And your Vlach and Slav ancestors lost it to the Asiatic magyars from siberia.My ancestors never bowed their head to Turks and I am proud of them.
You take pride in changing from european,to Mongol,to "Turano-european".That's fucked up man lol.Since you are magyars from the great turan why do you take pride in fighting your turk cousins?From wherever you start you are traitors both as "europeans" and as mongols.Bowing head to asiatics and then fighting against them.lol

Lol, I dont have Vlach or Slav ancestors. My ancestors were Hungarians.

You on the other hand, are a Vlach-berber mix who migrated to the territory of modern day Greece. Until the 19th century there was no such thing as greece, then one day the British decided to create a state out of European Turkey called "greece", call the mongrel inhabitants of this territory "greeks", who speak the "greek" language. They even created the "greek" flag for you.

Shame, you lost your identity to a state invented in the 19th century...

"greeks" are just brainwashed Albanians, Turks, Berbers, Gypsies, Vlachs, Slavs who were brainwashed to think they are the (long extinct) hellenes. Their identity is no less fake than FYROM.

Scholarios
11-27-2013, 11:46 AM
Cmon - all countries got national identity in 19th century. We are Rhomaoi though 100%.

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 11:49 AM
Cmon - all countries got national identity in 19th century. .

Not really.

Scholarios
11-27-2013, 11:52 AM
Not really.

So what year the Antaes, Avars, Serbs, Illyrians, Latins, and Germanics living under territory of Pannonia all adopted the language of the elite Magyars and consolidated their identity?

Prisoner Of Ice
11-27-2013, 11:56 AM
Lol, I dont have Vlach or Slav ancestors. My ancestors were Hungarians.

You on the other hand, are a Vlach-berber mix who migrated to the territory of modern day Greece. Until the 19th century there was no such thing as greece, then one day the British decided to create a state out of European Turkey called "greece", call the mongrel inhabitants of this territory "greeks", who speak the "greek" language. They even created the "greek" flag for you.

Shame, you lost your identity to a state invented in the 19th century...

"greeks" are just brainwashed Albanians, Turks, Berbers, Gypsies, Vlachs, Slavs who were brainwashed to think they are the (long extinct) hellenes. Their identity is no less fake than FYROM.

Sad part is, then they spit on fyrom like mad. At least they took their independence. I am sure there is some ancient greek dna, but probably not much more than in turkey.

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 12:06 PM
So what year the Antaes, Avars, Serbs, Illyrians, Latins, and Germanics living under territory of Pannonia all adopted the language of the elite Magyars and consolidated their identity?

Never?

There were no Antaes, Ilyrians or Latins in Pannonia when we got here. Avars most likely were also wiped out (nobody knows what happened to them), and the Germanics were mostly deported after WW2.

Scholarios
11-27-2013, 12:18 PM
Never?

There were no Antaes, Ilyrians or Latins in Pannonia when we got here. Avars most likely were also wiped out (nobody knows what happened to them), and the Germanics were mostly deported after WW2.

As the base of the Huns, I'm guessing they were all there to some degree. Actually, I got no beef with you and Hellander is probably out of line- but lets be realistic. Hungary is at a crossroads of migration and settlement. The last horde settling there in 1945...

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 12:31 PM
As the base of the Huns, I'm guessing they were all there to some degree. Actually, I got no beef with you and Hellander is probably out of line- but lets be realistic. Hungary is at a crossroads of migration and settlement. The last horde settling there in 1945...

Huns =/= Magyars =/= Mongols =/= Turks

You people are so ignorant yet talk about our history as if you were experts.



And which hordes settled here in 1945?

blogen
11-27-2013, 12:35 PM
And which hordes settled here in 1945?

The Soviet hordes. Hungary full of the remains of the Soviet hordes settlements, graveyards and ceremonial grounds.

http://kuruc.info/galeriaN/2012/kismoszkva_totvazsony_01.jpg

The great hordes in the world history, their core area and the maximum extent of their and their direct successors' conquests:

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/1976/wzn8.jpg

Scholarios
11-27-2013, 12:44 PM
Huns =/= Magyars =/= Mongols =/= Turks

You people are so ignorant yet talk about our history as if you were experts.



And which hordes settled here in 1945?


I'll give you a reprieve as I guess your first language isn't English . But I never claimed Magyars were the same as Huns ( though some of your Jobbiks might disagree) as far as Turks or Mongols - I didn't even mention those folk. What I am saying is that when the Magyars settled there in 895- various people's had been living there for the past 500 years. These are part of your ancestors. I'm not saying I'm some expert- but this is elementary history lesson everyone knows.

And Soviets may have raped up to 200,000 Hungarian women ( and a few men) during their occupation in late 40's.

http://muse.jhu.edu/journals/ptp/summary/v188/188.1mark.html

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 12:45 PM
Ok, show me proof of Ilyrians, Antaes, etc living in Pannonia at the time of the arrival of Hungarians

Scholarios
11-27-2013, 01:02 PM
Ok, show me proof of Ilyrians, Antaes, etc living in Pannonia at the time of the arrival of Hungarians

Antaes/Sklavinia kingdom of Moravia was there. With like 30% Slav vocabulary, I don't know it's really contested. Slavs of course were assimilated Illyrians as well as everything under the sun that followed Atilla's armies ( Alan's, Antaes, Germans, even Greek-speaking Romans) and Avars had been defeated less than a century before by Charlemagne. Maybe they were gone, maybe they weren't . Id f like to see proof the land was totally empty when Magyars arrived.


Based on the extant Hungarian chronicles, it is clear that more than one (occasionally extended) list existed of the peoples inhabiting the Carpathian Basin at the time of the Hungarian landtaking.[110] Anonymous, for instance, first writes of the "Slavs, Bulgarians, Vlachs and the shepherds of the Romans"[111] as inhabiting the territory,[112] but later he refers to "a people called Kozar"[113] and to the Székelys.[110] Similarly, Simon of Kéza first lists the "Slavs, Greeks, Germans, Moravians and Vlachs",[114][115] but later adds that the Székelys also lived in the territory.[116]

Macartney 1953, pp. 64–65, 70.
Anonymus, Notary of King Béla: The Deeds of the Hungarians 2010, (ch. 9.), p. 27.
Madgearu 2005b, p. 45.
Anonymus, Notary of King Béla: The Deeds of the Hungarians 2010, (ch. 11.), p. 33.
Simon of Kéza 2010, (chapter 23.), p. 73-75.
Madgearu 2005b, pp. 46–47.
Macartney 1953, p. 103.


I'mNot pissing on Hungarians. Just I don't see difference between Greek and Hungarian views of purity.

Kiyant
11-27-2013, 01:06 PM
Huns =/= Magyars =/= Mongols =/= Turks

You people are so ignorant yet talk about our history as if you were experts.



And which hordes settled here in 1945?

I find it funny how all eurasian steppe people are called mongol here but the steppe people like the sarmatians and scythians were aryan/nordic/fully caucasoid if you guys want to generalise call them also mongols but you wont do it

Scholarios
11-27-2013, 01:13 PM
I find it funny how all eurasian steppe people are called mongol here but the steppe people like the sarmatians and scythians were aryan/nordic/fully caucasoid if you guys want to generalise call them also mongols but you wont do it

Again, I didnt say that and I don't know where it came from that I did. My posts are clean- check it.

Kiyant
11-27-2013, 01:15 PM
Again, I didnt say that and I don't know where it came from that I did. My posts are clean- check it.

I didnt mean you scholarios you are a pretty nice member overall but there are many on this forum who does say mongol to all eurasians but are raging hard if anyone would dare to say something to their "Aryan" scythians

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 01:16 PM
Scholarios, I am not sure what point you are trying to make?

Scholarios
11-27-2013, 01:17 PM
I didnt mean you scholarios you are a pretty nice member overall but there are many on this forum who does say mongol to all eurasians but are raging hard if anyone would dare to say something to their "Aryan" scythians

When I was 14-17 years old I might say something similar too. After that time I started meeting girls and became somewhat less insane :cool:

Somewhat...

Kiyant
11-27-2013, 01:19 PM
When I was 14-17 years old I might say something similar too. After that time I started meeting girls and became somewhat less insane :cool:

Somewhat...

LOL good one

Scholarios
11-27-2013, 01:19 PM
Scholarios, I am not sure what point you are trying to make?

I don't know- you just attacked Greek identity as a " hodgepodge" so I was balancing things out. Anyways, nations with strong assimilatory histories have strong cultures. Hungary, Greece, China, Turkey, Germany.

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 01:22 PM
Trying telling that to your "pure" friend "hellhammer".

HellLander87
11-27-2013, 02:22 PM
Quote from the Oxford lexicon ed.1928..
Mongols=An umbrela term for asiatic steppe peoples with slanted eyes also known as Huns and the hordes from the east.

Albion
11-27-2013, 02:25 PM
Fucking democracy, we must destroy it!

:picard1:

Spoken like a Nazi.

HellLander87
11-27-2013, 02:26 PM
Yeah your ancestors never bowed down they only did it for 600 years to asiatic Turks.
Also Magyars are EURASIAN they didnt look like Mongolians or Japanese they like the Turks were always mixed but the Hungarians were more on the caucasian side.
wikipedia
The Agrafa region is famous for its complete autonomy throughout the entire 400 years of Ottoman Turkish occupation of Greece. The word agrafa literally translates to "unwritten" or uncharted; because the Ottomans were unable to conquer this region, the area and its population were not recorded in the Sultan's tax register. As a result the people were usually free to conduct their business and customs as they pleased without Ottoman influence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrafa
My ancestors were from there.

HellLander87
11-27-2013, 04:04 PM
Trying telling that to your "pure" friend "hellhammer".
" Consistent with previous studies, Hungarian-speaking populations are genetically closely related to their geographic neighbours. The Hungarian and Szekler groups cluster together with some other central Europeans (e.g. Czechs and Slovaks), but MAINLY with Balkan populations. There are two exceptions. Haplogroup P*(xM173) is almost absent in continental Europe. The presence of this haplogroup in the Szeklers may indicate a CONNECTION with CENTRAL ASIAN populations. Also, there is an ELEVATED haplogroup J frequency. This may reflect ANATOLIAN and SOUTHERN BALKAN contributions to the gene pools of Hungarians and Szeklers, but historical data and the comparative analyses of maternal lineages of ancient Hungarian population suggest that the earlier migrations of the Magyars may also have contributed to the presence of this lineage in the Carpathian Basin."

Haplogroup E3b-M35 occurs at 10% frequency in Hungarians and 9.2% in Szeklers with E3b1-M78 chromosomes accounting for almost all representatives (∼90%). Hg E is mainly African, but its clade E3b-M35 has also been observed in Europe... Both E3b-M35 and its derivative (E3b1-M78) probably originated in EASTERN AFRICA..."

hahahahaha

Kiyant
11-27-2013, 04:07 PM
Quote from the Oxford lexicon ed.1928..
Mongols=An umbrela term for asiatic steppe peoples with slanted eyes also known Huns and the hordes from the east.

wow 1928 this term doesnt apply anymore with exception the Mongolians themselves

Kiyant
11-27-2013, 04:07 PM
wikipedia
The Agrafa region is famous for its complete autonomy throughout the entire 400 years of Ottoman Turkish occupation of Greece. The word agrafa literally translates to "unwritten" or uncharted; because the Ottomans were unable to conquer this region, the area and its population were not recorded in the Sultan's tax register. As a result the people were usually free to conduct their business and customs as they pleased without Ottoman influence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrafa
My ancestors were from there.

One little mountain region in Greece but what is with the rest of Greece?

Prisoner Of Ice
11-27-2013, 04:09 PM
Spoken like a Nazi.

That was the point.

Windischer
11-27-2013, 04:18 PM
this idiot isnt a neonazi, just a slovak extreme fascizoid populist who changed his rhetoric in 2008 from "jews are after us" to "gypsies are after us", made himself an attention whore on several rallies with his boyband and VOILA!
he won regional elections in one of the poorer and more nationalistic slovak areas. "victory" i tell you :D like when i defeated my classmates in cards back in the elementary school

...spawned a true hystery
calm down ppl, a standard populist dumbo, just with slightly more edgy rhetoric.

P. S. he is as right-wing as the left half of my ass ;)

Mortimer
11-27-2013, 04:22 PM
there is always the good ol usa to take care after nazis=terrorists=communists

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 04:56 PM
there is always the good ol usa to take care after nazis=terrorists=communists

not to mention gypsies

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 04:57 PM
hahahahaha

I agree, its very funny that mongrel greeks cluster with gypsies, vlachs, berbers and somalis.

Mortimer
11-27-2013, 05:02 PM
not to mention gypsies

why should gypsies be mentioned together with nazis

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 05:03 PM
why should gypsies be mentioned together with nazis

Because many gypsies are racist

Mortimer
11-27-2013, 05:06 PM
Because many gypsies are racist

says the magyar guarda

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 05:08 PM
says the magyar guarda

1) I am not part of the Magyar Garda
2) The Magyar Garda is not racist

Mortimer
11-27-2013, 05:10 PM
1) I am not part of the Magyar Garda
2) The Magyar Garda is not racist

the magyar garda is not a fascist and racist organisation gypsies are racist

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 05:10 PM
the magyar garda is not a fascist and racist organisation gypsies are racist

You got it :thumb001:

HellLander87
11-27-2013, 05:21 PM
I agree, its very funny that mongrel Hungarians cluster with gypsies, vlachs, berbers and somalis.

Kiyant
11-27-2013, 05:58 PM
Not to insult greeks but i think you guys cluster much more to berbers and somalis......

HellLander87
11-27-2013, 06:00 PM
Not to insult turks but i think we guys cluster much more to berbers and somalis......

Kastrioti1443
11-27-2013, 06:02 PM
Not to insult greeks but i think you guys cluster much more to berbers and somalis......

I am just very curios... where did you get that?

Kiyant
11-27-2013, 06:03 PM
I am just very curios... where did you get that?

Do you think Hungarians cluster more to Somalis and Berbers then greeks?

Kastrioti1443
11-27-2013, 06:04 PM
Do you think Hungarians cluster more to Somalis and Berbers then greeks?

The problem is that neither hungarians, nor greeks cluster to berbers. Berbers are too far away.

Kiyant
11-27-2013, 06:05 PM
The problem is that neither hungarians, nor greeks cluster to berbers. Berbers are too far away.

If any of the two would cluster to berbers it would be the greeks

Windischer
11-27-2013, 06:05 PM
what a highly intellectual debate ;)

Kastrioti1443
11-27-2013, 06:07 PM
If any of the two would cluster to berbers it would be the greeks

No one cluster to berbers mate senseless debate.

SobieskisavedEurope
11-27-2013, 08:10 PM
this idiot isnt a neonazi, just a slovak extreme fascizoid populist who changed his rhetoric in 2008 from "jews are after us" to "gypsies are after us", made himself an attention whore on several rallies with his boyband and VOILA!
he won regional elections in one of the poorer and more nationalistic slovak areas. "victory" i tell you :D like when i defeated my classmates in cards back in the elementary school

...spawned a true hystery
calm down ppl, a standard populist dumbo, just with slightly more edgy rhetoric.

P. S. he is as right-wing as the left half of my ass ;)

So, do you think these Jews have some nerve trying to slander Slovakia & ban right wing parties!?

Kiyant
11-27-2013, 08:12 PM
So, do you think these Jews have some nerve trying to slander Slovakia & ban right wing parties!?

You and your jews man.....

Windischer
11-27-2013, 09:18 PM
So, do you think these Jews have some nerve trying to slander Slovakia & ban right wing parties!?

nobody needs to slander slovakia; slovakia can slander itself just as good :D
& fascist parties arent right-wing. drive towards etatism, dirigism and social engineering are indicative of static views of society which i see as definitely and typically leftist.

Windischer
11-27-2013, 09:20 PM
You and your jews man.....

i agree. what would he be without jews? his life would be boring. its time he admits that jews are his salvation! :laugh:

Szegedist
11-27-2013, 09:25 PM
nobody needs to slander slovakia; slovakia can slander itself just as good :D

slovakia's very existence is slander

Scholarios
11-28-2013, 02:42 AM
Not to insult greeks but i think you guys cluster much more to berbers and somalis......

It's a bit like saying Chinese cluster closer to Belarussians than do Cambodians...

Vasa
11-28-2013, 02:53 AM
Good. The only solution for a further European existence is fascism.

solaris
11-28-2013, 03:07 AM
Fuck off Magyar....Slavs are racially superior to you turko-mongols


Now Macedonians are Slavs? Last time the Macedonian were ancient gays? :naughty:

http://anotherexilefromparadise.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/alexander-the-great.jpg


Subhuman Fyromonkey, Hungarians and Slovaks are racially almost identical, with Hungarians being superior as proven by history.
You are a swarthy unibrowed mongrel midget slavovlach subhuman.


Fuck off cunt, now go try and take Vojvodina...HUN


While your post on here, Albanians are fucking your sisters and naming them Kastrioti. What are you going to do FYROMonkey?


And Romanians, Serbs and Slovaks are doing the same to your sisters...although naming them something different...


No sane european man would touch a mongoloid woman


Mongoloid woman > mongrel mustached greek woman


wtf?Asiatic Mongols claiming territory in europe and insulting europeans.
You think that romania belongs to you, slovakia belongs to you, blah ,blah,blah
What belongs to you is a shithole in siberia.
Ride your whores asap and return where you came from.


Btw, why does a north african-slav-vlach mix take pride in bowing down to a long extinct people (The Hellenes), imitating their language and even culture and religion?

Strange...
http://gifs.gifbin.com/1232550426_worf%20face%20palm.gif

Scholarios
11-28-2013, 03:33 AM
http://gifs.gifbin.com/1232550426_worf%20face%20palm.gif


Deep Space 9 was the best Trek series.

solaris
11-28-2013, 05:18 AM
Deep Space 9 was the best Trek series.

voyager was my favorite.

Sblast
11-28-2013, 10:18 AM
So, do you think these Jews have some nerve trying to slander Slovakia & ban right wing parties!?

So, do you think these Neo-Nazis have some nerve to slander anyone who isn't a ultra-nationalist romantic & ban morality for erratic, self-serving narcissism!? Drop "slander Slovakia" and Yes, again and again, in your face unapologetically.

HellLander87
11-28-2013, 02:58 PM
http://gifs.gifbin.com/1232550426_worf%20face%20palm.gif
The black thing has trouble understanding the dialogue above.haha

Windischer
11-28-2013, 09:38 PM
oh wait... did someone mention vlachs?
does anyone have any problem with vlachs aka aromanians? does anyone want to anger me?
Leave my darlings alone!

Szegedist
11-28-2013, 09:41 PM
oh wait... did someone mention vlachs?
does anyone have any problem with vlachs aka aromanians? does anyone want to anger me?
Leave my darlings alone!

I have problem with vlachs aka romanians aka aromanians aka shepard gypsies.

Windischer
11-28-2013, 09:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_o65B1JTiw

SobieskisavedEurope
11-28-2013, 09:59 PM
nobody needs to slander slovakia; slovakia can slander itself just as good :D
& fascist parties arent right-wing. drive towards etatism, dirigism and social engineering are indicative of static views of society which i see as definitely and typically leftist.

Well, you just said this is basically a slander of Slovakia did you not!?

Fascism is indeed socialism & far left wing in many ways!

Who do you think are responsible for linking the fascists to the right wing entirely!?

Sblast
11-28-2013, 10:02 PM
Fascism is indeed socialism & far left wing in many ways!

Who do you think are responsible for linking the fascists to the right wing entirely!?

I think only ideologues clarify vague terms by using another set of vague terms. It dosenn't matter how you label it, what matters it how you critique or justify it - labeling is for two kinds of professions in large - Historians and Propagandists.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_o65B1JTiw

Oh how Lovely. Apparently some people think that everyone should own one.

Windischer
11-28-2013, 10:02 PM
Well, you just said this is basically a slander of Slovakia did you not!?


no. i dont care about "slander of slovakia"

SobieskisavedEurope
11-28-2013, 10:03 PM
So, do you think these Neo-Nazis have some nerve to slander anyone who isn't a ultra-nationalist romantic & ban morality for erratic, self-serving narcissism!? Drop "slander Slovakia" and Yes, again and again, in your face unapologetically.

What gives Jews a right to butt into European affairs & oppose democracy!?

Why should Europeans have to put up with the issues that come from left wing ideals!?

Your Israel sure isn't taken lightly to the Palestinian issue but if Slovaks do far less against the Cigan Gypsies than it is a problem!?

Sblast
11-28-2013, 10:04 PM
What gives Jews a right to butt into European affairs & oppose democracy!?

Why should Europeans have to put up with the issues that come from left wing ideals!?

Your Israel sure isn't taken lightly to the Palestinian issue but if Slovaks do far less against the Cigan Gypsies than it is a problem!?

Wait...Wut?

SobieskisavedEurope
11-28-2013, 10:06 PM
no. i dont care about "slander of slovakia"

But, you are from Slovakia are you not!?

But, you care about your precious Vlachs!?

Windischer
11-28-2013, 10:10 PM
But, you are from Slovakia are you not!?
But, you care about your precious Vlachs!?

:joker000:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxUDqVRgQms

SobieskisavedEurope
11-28-2013, 10:10 PM
Wait...Wut?

Israel reacts to the Palestinians with an iron fist!

If Europeans don't turn the other cheek completely Jews throw a fit!

Windischer
11-28-2013, 10:12 PM
What gives Jews a right to butt into European affairs & oppose democracy!?


probably the same person who gave the right to an american antijewish freak :laugh:

SobieskisavedEurope
11-28-2013, 10:14 PM
probably the same person who gave the right to an american antijewish freak :laugh:

What is "American" Native American right!?

Americans have real ancestry in Europe.

Besides I am not opposed to Slovakia's right to democracy here!

Szegedist
11-28-2013, 10:15 PM
...

Petros Houhoulis
11-28-2013, 10:50 PM
The middle ages were not the same as the 19th or 20th century.
Nobles ruled lands, and the people that were ruled were the peasants.

Or are you talking about the vassal states?

Your mentality is 19th/20th century, rather than Medieval Feudal. You ruled those regions well into the 20th century. Therefore, your only defense is that you "conquered" those regions when there was no nationalism. Unfortunately, it is a lame excuse.

I don't know if you have noticed, but Greece, Hungary and even Germany and Turkey have certain similarities between them: All of them expanded beyond their natural frontiers by conquests, all of them suffered subsequent defeats which left a sizeable number of their ethnos outside of their current borders. Thus, Greeks had colonies in Egypt (expelled under Nasser) Palestine (small number of ethnic Greeks still controlling the patriarchate) Turkey and the Balkans (exchanged with population exchanges, a few still present) e.t.c. Hungary left considerably more people in Romania and Serbia, and fewer in Croatia, Germanys' immigrants in the Baltics, Czechoslovakia and the Balkans were finally exterminated and/or expelled during and after WWII, while large contigents of German speaking people live in Luxemburg, Belgium, Switzerland, Lichtenstein, not to mention Hitlers' own homeland, Austria, and of course Turkey shares a common language with a few former Soviet republics, a portion of Iran and various Balkan states.

Maybe you should stop whining about your losses, because ultimately, we all had losses in the long term...

Szegedist
11-28-2013, 10:52 PM
Hey Petros, Hungary had those lands when the countries that "have" them today didnt even exist.
The natural borders of Hungary were marked by the Carpathian Mountains

watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdzIJLlucwQ

Petros Houhoulis
11-29-2013, 03:16 AM
Hey Petros, Hungary had those lands when the countries that "have" them today didnt even exist.
The natural borders of Hungary were marked by the Carpathian Mountains

watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdzIJLlucwQ

Yes, these countries didn't exist, but still, those populations were not Hungarian. If you failed to assimilate them, then it is your fault for missing that chance, not their fault for running away and creating their own states.

Now that you are a part of the E.U., you co-own a much larger union than Hungary ever was, and yet you yearn for old Hungary because you have a lot of Hungarians living outside of Hungary, and not much because of "natural borders"...

Furthermore, I'm not so sure Hungary has a lot of natural borders in the proper sense of the word. You are a landlocked country, large rivers that could be used as natural borders slice your capital in half instead, and Hungary (or actually, what is left of it) is effectively a valley surrounded by mountains, making defence even more difficult (which explains why you are usually under somebodys' yoke)

Therefore, your only hope for a revival of a past greatness remains in a pro-Nationalist world of monarchies, but then you cannot apply for a nationalist mantle because you would contradict yourself.

Thus, ironically, your only hope is to see the return of an Ottoman empire in the Balkans, but honestly, the Ottomans shall never get a second chance. They might seem strong, but Europe has left them behind since a long time ago, and Ataturk is being worshipped in Turkey for being the most effective arselicker of European culture and values ever... and the Neo-Ottoman agenda is failing on all directions imaginable.

Since the Hungarians of Vojvodina were one of the few minorities which did not manage to split from Serbia, I can't see any hope other for you in this timeframe other than stand up for your minorities' rights in neighboring countries. You have the bad luck of living in the virtually landlocked region of East Europe, and it is a well known fact that people who have lived in such regions spent most of their life fearing for invasions... When they were not the invaders of course!!!

Szegedist
11-29-2013, 05:31 PM
Yes, these countries didn't exist, but still, those populations were not Hungarian. If you failed to assimilate them, then it is your fault for missing that chance, not their fault for running away and creating their own states.

Read this "greek".
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?102213-Most-tolerant-progressive-country-in-Europe

If we did to our minorities what the Turks supposedly did to Pontic Greeks, then we wouldnt have any problems today.


Now that you are a part of the E.U., you co-own a much larger union than Hungary ever was, and yet you yearn for old Hungary because you have a lot of Hungarians living outside of Hungary, and not much because of "natural borders"...
ITs none of your business what we yearn for or not, "greek".


Furthermore, I'm not so sure Hungary has a lot of natural borders in the proper sense of the word. You are a landlocked country, large rivers that could be used as natural borders slice your capital in half instead, and Hungary (or actually, what is left of it) is effectively a valley surrounded by mountains, making defence even more difficult
Natural borders of Hungary, as defined by mountains and rivers, and history
http://i40.tinypic.com/30bok6q.png

(which explains why you are usually under somebodys' yoke)
Your lack of knowledge of history amazes me. Whats the greek excuse for being under somebodys yolk for the past 600 years?

[QUOTE=Petros Houhoulis;2143396]Therefore, your only hope for a revival of a past greatness remains in a pro-Nationalist world of monarchies, but then you cannot apply for a nationalist mantle because you would contradict yourself.

Not really.

[QUOTE=Petros Houhoulis;2143396]blah blah blah/QUOTE]
I dont see how the rest of your rambling is relevant to anything, "greek".