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Stimpy
12-03-2013, 03:16 PM
http://gfx.svd-cdn.se/multimedia/dynamic/00557/jens_557165c.jpg
http://gfx.svd-cdn.se/multimedia/dynamic/00427/byggmark494_427475c.jpg
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Stimpy
12-03-2013, 03:26 PM
bump

Kastrioti1443
12-03-2013, 03:27 PM
Depigmented Turanid.

NORWORLD
12-03-2013, 03:38 PM
Borreby-faelid +CM/baltid. The third picture makes it clear that he has dyed his hair blonder than it really is.

Stimpy
12-03-2013, 03:41 PM
Borreby-faelid +CM/baltid. The third picture makes it clear that he has dyed his hair blonder than it really is.
I agree with the classification but he definitely hasn't dyed his hair blonder, where are you getting that from?

Styggnacke
12-03-2013, 03:43 PM
He's a Lapp.

NORWORLD
12-03-2013, 03:48 PM
I agree with the classification but he definitely hasn't dyed his hair blonder, where are you getting that from?

Relax. He obviously has blonde hair to begin with. But the third picture makes it dead obvious that he has dyed it a few shades lighter. At least at the time of that picture. Compare it to this picture of his real hair color. Obvious difference:

http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/zz84/Narniaworld/jb_zpse4bd8439.jpg (http://s816.photobucket.com/user/Narniaworld/media/jb_zpse4bd8439.jpg.html)

Stimpy
12-03-2013, 03:55 PM
Relax. He obviously has blonde hair to begin with. But the third picture makes it dead obvious that he has dyed it a shade or two lighter. At least at the time
of that picture. Compare it to this picture of his real hair color. Obvious difference:

http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/zz84/Narniaworld/jb_zpse4bd8439.jpg (http://s816.photobucket.com/user/Narniaworld/media/jb_zpse4bd8439.jpg.html)
Not really, I have about the same hair colour as him and it changes very much depending on light, sun exposure, time of year, camera, etc. It's definitely not dead obvious, I'm almost certain he doesn't.

NORWORLD
12-03-2013, 04:02 PM
Not really, I have about the same hair colour as him and it changes very much depending on light, sun exposure, time of year, camera, etc. It's definitely not dead obvious, I'm almost certain he doesn't.

I can spot his dyed hair from miles away. I wouldn't even have to compare pictures. But if you really need further proof then consider this: The pictures you posted are from winter time. So is mine...

Tooting Carmen
12-03-2013, 04:05 PM
Baltid

sevruk
12-03-2013, 04:13 PM
borealised CM

Lemon Kush
12-03-2013, 04:15 PM
Looks Finnish

Peikko
12-03-2013, 04:17 PM
Looks Finnish

Looks bleached Bulgarian.

Clear case of lapp.

aherne
12-03-2013, 04:17 PM
(Real) Nordid. Scandinavian counterpart of Uralid (with higher incidence of Blondism).

sevruk
12-03-2013, 04:21 PM
Looks bleached Bulgarian.

Clear case of lapp.

Bulgarians have Lapp origin? You mad

Peikko
12-03-2013, 04:23 PM
Bulgarians have Lapp origin? You mad

No, but they have turanids.

sevruk
12-03-2013, 04:35 PM
No, but they have turanids.

so Swedes/Finns depigmented turanids?

Cristiano viejo
12-03-2013, 04:37 PM
Mongol. Swedish version of Kimi Raikkonen.

Peikko
12-03-2013, 04:41 PM
so Swedes/Finns depigmented turanids?

Lapps share phenotyical similarities with turanids, though not very many.

Peikko
12-03-2013, 04:42 PM
Mongol. Swedish version of Kimi Raikkonen.

Do you mean Mika Häkkinen?

Cristiano viejo
12-03-2013, 04:50 PM
Do you mean Mika Häkkinen?

Yes, sorry :picard1:

Harkonnen
12-03-2013, 05:12 PM
(Real) Nordid. Scandinavian counterpart of Uralid (with higher incidence of Blondism).

Ig you are implying to Lappoid type with this 'real nordid', then then actually according to typologists (Like Coon) Uralids are actually blonder than Lappids.

http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate02.htm

btw

A Magyar from Budapest; a man of moderately tall stature, hyperbrachycephaly, and moderately great head size; with a large face, low orbits, a wide, interorbital distance, and a median eyefold. These characters, in combination with laterally prominent malars and a wide, heavy mandible, mark this individual as a Ladogan prototype. He represents a reëmergence of a racial element living in the eastern European woodlands in early post-glacial times; this type is one of the general group of Palaeolithic survivors, in this case largely unreduced. As with the related Palaeolithic survivors of northwestern Europe, its tendency to blondism must be considered integral, and not the result of Nordic admixture. Like the Lapp this type is incipiently mongoloid, but it differs profoundly from the Lapp in pigmentation, general size, and in the size and structure of the mandible. This individual appears to recapitulate in many respects the original Ladogan strain found among the Ugrian-speaking ancestors of the Magyars who invaded Hungary from their home in the Volga country. While typical of a true Magyar element in his country, he is not typical of the population of Hungary as a whole.

http://www.visualphotos.com/photo/1x5061225/cro-magnon_skull_1A1678.jpg

Those low orbits on that Magyar fellow are ultra cromagnon. Those kind of wide low orbits, seemed to went extinct since neolithic. You can compare him to those old Hungarian Kings who seemed to have very high orbits.

Roy
12-03-2013, 05:45 PM
Modified Borreby.

Peikko
12-03-2013, 05:54 PM
Ig you are implying to Lappoid type with this 'real nordid', then then actually according to typologists (Like Coon) Uralids are actually blonder than Lappids.

http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate02.htm

btw

A Magyar from Budapest; a man of moderately tall stature, hyperbrachycephaly, and moderately great head size; with a large face, low orbits, a wide, interorbital distance, and a median eyefold. These characters, in combination with laterally prominent malars and a wide, heavy mandible, mark this individual as a Ladogan prototype. He represents a reëmergence of a racial element living in the eastern European woodlands in early post-glacial times; this type is one of the general group of Palaeolithic survivors, in this case largely unreduced. As with the related Palaeolithic survivors of northwestern Europe, its tendency to blondism must be considered integral, and not the result of Nordic admixture. Like the Lapp this type is incipiently mongoloid, but it differs profoundly from the Lapp in pigmentation, general size, and in the size and structure of the mandible. This individual appears to recapitulate in many respects the original Ladogan strain found among the Ugrian-speaking ancestors of the Magyars who invaded Hungary from their home in the Volga country. While typical of a true Magyar element in his country, he is not typical of the population of Hungary as a whole.

http://www.visualphotos.com/photo/1x5061225/cro-magnon_skull_1A1678.jpg

Those low orbits on that Magyar fellow are ultra cromagnon. Those kind of wide low orbits, seemed to went extinct since neolithic. You can compare him to those old Hungarian Kings who seemed to have very high orbits.
That's tr00, CM types have rectangular eye sockets, while Mediterranean types have round. That's something people don't pay much attention to in classification threads.