Who has more Arabian ancestry Levant or North Africa?

[StonyArabia]

It seems that in the case of North Africa there was no Arab genetic impact at all, and it was rather an adoption of the language and culture. The main reason for this was Arabic provided a lingua franca to the diverse North African languages. Even Egyptians which should have a descent amount does not.So who you believe has more Arabian ancestry.

[Chaya]

Levant

[Wadaad]

The Levant and Mesopotamia experienced massive and continuous Arab migration, settlement (and then displacement of Aramaic as the lingua franca) from atleast the Seleucid era...while Arabization in the maghreb only peaked with the Banu Hilali movements that reached Mauritania around the 13th century.

[Sikeliot]

Levant. Granted they still have more native Levantine/Canaanite in them than they have Arabian, but North Africans do not seem to have much Arabian at all not even Egyptians. Most of the change to North African genetics has been either 1; Iberian, descendants from expelled Moors who were mainly converted natives, and 2; Sub-Saharan African slaves brought by the Arabs especially in Egypt and Morocco.

[Baluarte]

The Levant and Mesopotamia experienced massive and continuous Arab migration, settlement (and then displacement of Aramaic as the lingua franca) from atleast the Seleucid era...

Wait, I used to believe that prior to the Arab invasions of the VII Century the region was mostly populated by Sumerians/Acadians/Babylonians/Assyrians/Persians and all the ancient groups.
Are you saying there was migration from Arabia even before Islam?

[Shah-Jehan]

Wait, I used to believe that prior to the Arab invasions of the VII Century the region was mostly populated by Sumerians/Acadians/Babylonians/Assyrians/Persians and all the ancient groups.
Are you saying there was migration from Arabia even before Islam?
Ghassanids and others, the southern levant mostly...

[StonyArabia]

Wait, I used to believe that prior to the Arab invasions of the VII Century the region was mostly populated by Sumerians/Acadians/Babylonians/Assyrians/Persians and all the ancient groups.
Are you saying there was migration from Arabia even before Islam?

Yes, Ghassanids, Lakhmids, and Nabateans. Then more tribes came with Islam and post-Mongol invasion especially in Southern Syria and Iraq.

[Sikeliot]

Northern Iraq is mostly Arabized and Kurdified Assyrians.

[Wadaad]

Wait, I used to believe that prior to the Arab invasions of the VII Century the region was mostly populated by Sumerians/Acadians/Babylonians/Assyrians/Persians and all the ancient groups.
Are you saying there was migration from Arabia even before Islam?

Yes...the outskirts of Ctesiphon was completely Arabized by the 2nd century AD (unlike Ashur which remained Assyrian and besieged until the 1400s), and was around the time "Al Iraq" started to gain prominence to describe Mesopotama for both its Arabic and non-Arabic parts (Iraq-e-Arab and Iraq-e-Ajam as the Sassanids called it). Finally the Nestorian Arab kingdom of the Lakhmids (a Sassanid client state) was located in much of historical Sumer/Babylonia from the 300s on-wards.

[StonyArabia]

Northern Iraq is mostly Arabized and Kurdified Assyrians.


That's probably true based on the genetics of the Northern Iraqi individuals who took their test. However Iraq is not the Levant but the north does have a Bedouin groupings living there. The Levant is Palestine, Syria, and Lebanon, with Jordan only being tied loosely for it's more of a geographical description in it's case.

[tamilgangster]

obviously levant