People from Murcia (SE Spain)

[Empecinado]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_CYEWN1WT_Uk/S8DKyQBoGtI/AAAAAAAAEmI/nIu-qcqn3EQ/s1600/10-4-2010+senior.JPG

http://www.goldelmurcia.es/ffc-619-400-619-400-cc-data/foto/VASJZRLOLC.jpg

http://imagenes.tupatrocinio.com/imagenes/7/2/4/7/57247120082451657050575169544565/ACF11E6.JPG

http://tuzonaes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/futbol-sala.jpg


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Q0yxRgvp8so/TxNB5Anhr9I/AAAAAAAAAnA/T7v-mTCcyVA/s1600/Equipo1.jpg

http://teleson.net/hockey/SANTOMERA.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qb7vt5hUgHo/T7UUTzsjtxI/AAAAAAAAkt4/ap3-iTLOitk/s1600/Ajairis.jpg

http://www.alguazas.es/imagenes/balonmano.jpg%20%282%29.JPG


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8OxU3Ru2OUs/UZE_vKJgARI/AAAAAAAAVCM/T56G07iw3Lw/s1600/cadete+femenino+campeonas+2013.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qMFjmPxvGHI/UEetmFJfPRI/AAAAAAAApt8/VTmDbIhorm0/s1600/IMG_4121.JPG

http://www.teleprensa.es/imgnews/Atelticopulpilenopres2013.jpg

http://www.murcia.com/noticias/fotos/2009/08/30/300820091623271.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-S5OtlTkjDQg/Txa86ts1zBI/AAAAAAAAAO4/_DJQ5KeUpLA/s1600/image.jpg

http://nosoloefese.es/upload/img/periodico/img_23209.jpg

http://www.hugosport.es/deporte/semanaj.gif

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HKpvIAW32kY/T8CSoD6YP9I/AAAAAAAArlU/Nz7Jp3Sf_bs/s1600/DSC_0005%5B1%5D+%282%29.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-x8BZmKuC6bI/TuZEVGvsm8I/AAAAAAAAkRU/xgCQXNwK6qI/s1600/CIMG0494.jpg

http://www.cieza.es/portal/RecursosWeb/IMAGENES/1/0_1795_1.JPG

http://abaranfutbolbase.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/10-01-24-abaran-0-cieza-3-005-copia.jpg

[Prince Carlo]

Pure celtic race.

[Trun]

Lol there are barely any light haired people. M00rcia stronk!

[Prince Carlo]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-x8BZmKuC6bI/TuZEVGvsm8I/AAAAAAAAkRU/xgCQXNwK6qI/s1600/CIMG0494.jpg

This one should come to Italy as an Erasmus exchange student. xD

[Trun]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-x8BZmKuC6bI/TuZEVGvsm8I/AAAAAAAAkRU/xgCQXNwK6qI/s1600/CIMG0494.jpg

This one should come to Italy as an Erasmus exchange student. xD

She can fit in Britain.

[Empecinado]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-x8BZmKuC6bI/TuZEVGvsm8I/AAAAAAAAkRU/xgCQXNwK6qI/s1600/CIMG0494.jpg

This one should come to Italy as an Erasmus exchange student. xD

Are you sexually stimulated by being punched in the face, Capado? Because this is only contact you would have from her xD

[Prince Carlo]

Are you sexually stimulated by being punched in the face, Capado? Because this is only contact you would have from her xD

With those hands she can make a great burrito for me, capado.

[ficuscarica]

More proof that many south Spanish people are not white.

[Empecinado]

More proof that many south Spanish people are not white.

:picard2:

[ficuscarica]

:picard2:

They are not whiter than Ashkenazi Jews.

[Tooting Carmen]

Lovely photos. A lot of Atlanto-Meds, Berids, Gracile Meds and Atlantids. A few can fit in Britain, but they are a minority by far.

[Empecinado]

They are not whiter than Ashkenazi Jews.

Genetically they are as any other Iberian, so they have much more European component than Ashkenazi. Also, genetic studies have proved that Murcians are quite "old European" and have less Neolithic input than the neighbouring regions.

More information:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7ofSrrXv-sE/TkK836eDSXI/AAAAAAAAAns/1FFHMVGSpSM/s1600/BasqueAutosomal%2528Young%2529.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2629/4142515324_54828dff05.jpg

[Trun]

Genetically they are as any other Iberian, so they have much more European component than Ashkenazi. Also, genetic studies have proved that Murcians are quite "old European" and have less Neolithic input than the neighbouring regions.

But they look woggier than most Italians and Balkanites. Only South Italians and Greeks are comparable.

[Styrian Mujo]

Very Homogenous looking people id say.

[Empecinado]

But they look woggier than most Italians and Balkanites. Only South Italians and Greeks are comparable.

Their face features and skin are not particularly woggy and they have more European Paleolithic ancestry and less Neolithic than South Italians and Greeks do.

[Trun]

Their face features and skin are not particularly woggy and they have more European Paleolithic ancestry and less Neolithic than South Italians and Greeks do.

But they are almost entirely dark haired and eyed. This is rare in Europe.

[Prince Carlo]

In before the atlantic facade.

[Empecinado]

But they are almost entirely dark haired and eyed. This is rare in Europe.

They are a old population with old links to the land they live on, so I think that this is due they have evolved to adapt to the extremely sunny climate existing there. The Iberian Contestani and Bastetani peoples (pre-IE) who made up most of their ancestry, were described as being mostly dark haired as well.

[Smeagol]

Atlanto-Mediterranids, Gracile-Mediterranids, and Berids mostly.

[Styrian Mujo]

But they look woggier than most Italians and Balkanites. Only South Italians and Greeks are comparable.
They are not woggier than south Italians,they are not white but they are still whiter and tenfold more homogenous than MENA Italians infact this is how the neolithic farmers expanding into Europe would have looked like. Italians like to say they are a neolithic med when infact most south italians descend from mixed MENA immigrants.

[Enrico]

They are not woggier than south Italians,they are not white but they are still whiter and tenfold more homogenous than MENA Italians infact this is how the neolithic farmers expanding into Europe would have looked like. Italians like to say they are a neolithic med when infact most south italians descend from mixed MENA immigrants.

That's because Spaniards and Greeks darkened "south Italians". The majority of Italians look like typical white Europeans not exotic like Spaniards and Greeks

[Sikeliot]

They are dark, but their features still look fully European unlike some equally dark southern Europeans from other regions.

[Styrian Mujo]

That's because Spaniards and Greeks darkened "south Italians". The majority of Italians look like typical white Europeans not exotic like Spaniards and Greeks

How can they be typical white Europeans if they are considerd swarthy even here in Yugoslavia and we are dark ourselves.

[Empecinado]

They are not woggier than south Italians,they are not white but they are still whiter and tenfold more homogenous than MENA Italians infact this is how the neolithic farmers expanding into Europe would have looked like. Italians like to say they are a neolithic med when infact most south italians descend from mixed MENA immigrants.

But they are very Paleolithic, according both archeology and genetics.

[Sikeliot]

Even though these people are dark, when compared to southern Italians for instance or the Maltese, you see the features are not the same, because of the Neolithic in the latter.

[Tooting Carmen]

Members of the Regional Assembly of Murcia:

http://actualidad.laverdad.es/elecciones-2008/includes-rc/laverdad/img/abellan.jpg http://servicios.laverdad.es/servicios/especiales/elecciones25may/caretos/VICENTEBALIBREA.jpg http://fotos02.laopiniondemurcia.es/fotos/noticias/318x200/2011-04-17_IMG_2011-04-17_00:01:19_dmu017com002.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PRbjxny36HI/US55SkXKl3I/AAAAAAAAAk8/EE5yEagFJrE/s1600/JesusMolinaCanodiputadoPP.jpg http://www.ppmurcia.org/upload/imagen/cartagena/presidente_cartagena.jpg http://juliomanuelmg1982.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/esther-clavero.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ObM494E4ci4/URVXbiSp5CI/AAAAAAAAB2s/Y9stoy8xjOU/s1600/fernandez_delgado_belen_cabecera.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FMQVEsPBnPE/TCy9-kLupoI/AAAAAAAApkI/1DCQNYkzGLg/s400/bego%C3%B1a.jpg http://actualidad.laverdad.es/elecciones-2008/includes-rc/laverdad/img/agarre.jpg http://www.infojobs.net/ficha.foto?quina=295A7424-D36E-549F-4F53095D3B69FC58 http://parlamentarios.publicacionmedica.com/IMG/jpg/gonzalez_lopez_severa2.jpg http://www.laverdad.es/murcia/prensa/noticias/201002/10/fotos/3030842.jpg http://www.livepages.es/mediapool/135/1359349/resources/28234150.jpg http://s01.s3c.es/imag/efe/2009/02/03/1894433w.jpg http://www.ppmurcia.org/elecciones2011/fotos%20candidatos/mula.jpg http://fotos01.laopiniondemurcia.es/fotos/noticias/318x200/2012-03-17_IMG_2012-03-17_22:34:22_01701commu.jpg http://fotos00.laopiniondemurcia.es/fotos/noticias/318x200/2010-03-11_IMG_2010-03-11_08:19:03_fotospropias_20081113_135837.jpg http://servicios.laverdad.es/servicios/especiales/elecciones25may/caretos/CATALINALORENZO.jpg http://www.ppsanjavier.es/esp/images/07.png

[Tooting Carmen]

More:

http://servicios.laverdad.es/servicios/especiales/elecciones25may/caretos/VICENTEMAESO.jpg http://pityalarcon.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/maria-teresa-marin_thumb.jpg?w=236&h=222 http://blogs.laverdad.es/tribunalibre/files/005D4CTGP1_1bernal_01.jpghttp://www.ppmurcia.org/UPLOAD/IMAGEN/thumb/noticia_show/victor_manuel_martinez02.jpg http://www.psoeaguilas.org/wp-content/uploads/2-mari-carmen-moreno.jpg http://fotos01.laopiniondemurcia.es/fotos/noticias/318x200/2012-01-23_IMG_2012-01-23_21:54:13_01301commu.jpg http://www.laverdad.es/murcia/prensa/noticias/201010/08/fotos/4766174.jpg http://www.psoe-regiondemurcia.com/www/img/grupos/psoe-O%C3%B1ateMarin.jpg http://www.laverdad.es/murcia/prensa/noticias/200907/16/fotos/1731935.jpg http://fotos00.laopiniondemurcia.es/fotos/noticias/318x200/2011-05-12_IMG_2011-05-12_01:10:21_jmu019ele003.jpg http://www.laverdad.es/murcia/prensa/noticias/201104/17/fotos/6817535.jpg http://fotos01.laopiniondemurcia.es/2013/08/02/646x260/pedro-antonio-1.jpg http://wwwold.asambleamurcia.es/actualidad/ruedas-prensa/presupuestos2010/economia/fotos/pp.jpg (both men)
http://www.cartagena.es/archivos/138-46919-IMP_FOTO/Maria%20Dolores%20Soler_0001.jpg http://www.ppmurcia.org/elecciones2011/fotos%20candidatos/pliego.jpg http://img.webme.com/pic/a/alamursanblas/violante.jpg http://www.laverdad.es/especiales/elecciones/murcia/2011/archivos/201105/valcarcel-siso-200xXx80.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

Lol at people who say there is no regional variation in phenotype in Spain. Granted, it is much less marked than in Italy, but if you compare the councillors I posted above with these ones from Zaragoza, for instance, there is a noticeable difference: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?102469-Classify-these-councillors-from-Zaragoza-Northeastern-Spain-and-where-can-they-pass&highlight=zaragoza

[Hadouken]

good and friendly looking people :)

[B01AB20]

Lol at people who say there is no regional variation in phenotype in Spain. Granted, it is much less marked than in Italy, but if you compare the councillors I posted above with these ones from Zaragoza, for instance, there is a noticeable difference: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?102469-Classify-these-councillors-from-Zaragoza-Northeastern-Spain-and-where-can-they-pass&highlight=zaragoza

I can't see that 'noticeable difference' honestly.

You can make a thread called 'tell the north from south spaniards' with crowds, politicians, etc (no individuals) and you will see, more or less, if there's a noticeable difference or not so noticeable.

[Tooting Carmen]

I can't see that 'noticeable difference' honestly.

You can make a thread called 'tell the north from south spaniards' with crowds, politicians, etc (no individuals) and you will see, more or less, if there's a noticeable difference or not so noticeable.

Oh come on, the Zaragoza group has a lot more light individuals than the Murcia group.

[B01AB20]

Oh come on, the Zaragoza group has a lot more light individuals than the Murcia group.

I watched it again, Zaragoza has a few individuals with light features and so does Murcia, Zaragoza has a few individuals with 'weird'(berid?) and dark features and so does Murcia...

I note the 'northness' of Zaragoza politicians in the characteristic facial features of some of them, quite typical or the pyreenean zone, but this characteristic facial features can appear with dark or light hair; it's not a matter of lightness I mean.

And the light, angle etc is very important and influential (?) in how a person look in a picture, the same perosn can look quite different depending on the picture.

http://www.senado.es/legis10/senadores/fotos/S10130.jpghttps://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQnh-RDRMhh3u2O7p2d5NMsKZWURAj_7T41pgAjPriazmnLyuqWhttp ://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/an/0/0b/Juan_Alberto_Belloch_Julbe.jpg

[Anthropologique]

More proof that many south Spanish people are not white.

On drugs again?

[Anthropologique]

That's because Spaniards and Greeks darkened "south Italians". The majority of Italians look like typical white Europeans not exotic like Spaniards and Greeks

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. What planet did you come from?

[Anthropologique]

How can they be typical white Europeans if they are considerd swarthy even here in Yugoslavia and we are dark ourselves.

Spaniards are hardly "swarthy" overall. Do you even know what swarthy means?

The stupidity on this forum is way beyond explanation

[Anthropologique]

Lol at people who say there is no regional variation in phenotype in Spain. Granted, it is much less marked than in Italy, but if you compare the councillors I posted above with these ones from Zaragoza, for instance, there is a noticeable difference: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?102469-Classify-these-councillors-from-Zaragoza-Northeastern-Spain-and-where-can-they-pass&highlight=zaragoza

Some are not even full Spaniard.

[Tooting Carmen]

Spaniards are hardly "swarthy" overall.

Not overall, but there is a larger minority who are than is true in many other European countries.

[Cristiano viejo]

More proof that many south Spanish people are not white.
According you these people are not white? buy a brain.

[Prince Carlo]

Marowit you swarty stinky mestizo. Go back selling burritos to WASPs. LOL.

[Styrian Mujo]

Marowit you swarty stinky mestizo. Go back selling burritos to WASPs. LOL.
I am probably swarthy by northwestern standards yes and I would be honored to sell Burek to WASPs.

[Trun]

http://www.goldelmurcia.es/ffc-619-400-619-400-cc-data/foto/VASJZRLOLC.jpg

At least 3-4 of them would be mistaken for gypsies here.

[B01AB20]

http://www.goldelmurcia.es/ffc-619-400-619-400-cc-data/foto/VASJZRLOLC.jpg

At least 3-4 of them would be mistaken for gypsies here.

yeah? man, then I'd like to know how many times you haven't been mistaken for a gypsy in your own country; 0 times I guess.

anyway, I think I can see a panchita there, or two... or maybe three.

[Prince Carlo]

http://www.goldelmurcia.es/ffc-619-400-619-400-cc-data/foto/VASJZRLOLC.jpg

At least 3-4 of them would be mistaken for gypsies here.

Still underage, but I see the potential in them. When they are 20, they should come to Italy as erasmus exchange students.

[Ibericus]

http://www.goldelmurcia.es/ffc-619-400-619-400-cc-data/foto/VASJZRLOLC.jpg

At least 3-4 of them would be mistaken for gypsies here.
They might be immigrants those ones, because they also look exotic to me.

[B01AB20]

Still underage, but I see the potential in them. When they are 20, they should come to Italy as erasmus exchange students.

an italian horny 'macho' asking for foreigner women to come to him...:picard2:

capelli man :D, you're reducing the myth of italian latin lovers and conquerors to levels, low levels, never seen before; congrats.

[Trun]

yeah? man, then I'd like to know how many times you haven't been mistaken for a gypsy in your own country; 0 times I guess.

I'm not brown skinned like the lovely ladies third top row left to right and bottom right corner :rolleyes:

[Empecinado]

I'm not brown skinned like the lovely ladies third top row left to right and bottom right corner :rolleyes:

Neither they are, they are just tanned. Murcia is one of the sunniest European regions:

http://www.antikariasolar.com/resources/mapa+radiaci$C3$B3n..jpg

You would get a similar skintone after some months living there.

[WOOHP]

They are dark indeed but still very Western, some could pass in Britain and some fewer in Scandinavia as some dark Paleo-Atlantids/Atlantids but as a group there's a big and noticeable difference.

95% seem to be brunette.

[Trun]

You would get a similar skintone after some months living there.

Living in such conditions would make many people to be born with such color.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

In before the atlantic facade.

That doesn't apply for Murcians. If you're going to troll, do it competently.

[Empecinado]

Living in such conditions would make many people to be born with such color.

No one ethnic Spaniard (and no one ethnic European I would say) is born with such color.

[ficuscarica]

No one ethnic Spaniard (and no one ethnic European I would say) is born with such color.

Ethnic Spaniards are born with that color, but not ethnic Europeans - that is correct.

[Anthropologique]

http://www.goldelmurcia.es/ffc-619-400-619-400-cc-data/foto/VASJZRLOLC.jpg

At least 3-4 of them would be mistaken for gypsies here.

They probably are, at least partially. Learn something significant about Spain before making judgements.

[Anthropologique]

Ethnic Spaniards are born with that color, but not ethnic Europeans - that is correct.

Are you suffering from brain rot? You aren't too stupid but three stupid, you flaming jack-ass.

[Anthropologique]

Not overall, but there is a larger minority who are than is true in many other European countries.

Not in southern Europe. Again, ETHNIC Spaniards are generally not swarthy.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

They probably are, at least partially. Learn something significant about Spain before making judgements.

They aren't Gypsies, nor are they partially. Gypsy features stand out. Their features are typical for Iberians.

[Anthropologique]

Ethnic Spaniards are born with that color, but not ethnic Europeans - that is correct.

Keep showing us how moronic you are, scum-bag.

An Untermensch with s##t for brains. You should be placed on everyone's ignore list just for being a premier jack-ass. Now, GFY, Untermensch.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Not in southern Europe. Again, ETHNIC Spaniards are generally not swarthy.

Who cares?

The more you say stuff like that the more people troll. It does the opposite of what you think. If you just ignored the trolling, these posters would look like weirdos obsessed with an ethnicity.

[Anthropologique]

They aren't Gypsies, nor are they partially. Gypsy features stand out. Their features are typical for Iberians.


Can you really tell from those pics?

The south has always had a segment of its population showing gypsy admixture - not genetically ethnic Spaniards.

[Anthropologique]

Who cares?

The more you say stuff like that the more people troll. It does the opposite of what you think. If you just ignored the trolling, these posters would look like weirdos obsessed with an ethnicity.

That's what they are and then some. However, they deserve to be insulted for their gross stupidity.

[Empecinado]

Can you really tell from those pics?

The south has always had a segment of its population showing gypsy admixture - not genetically ethnic Spaniards.

Not every tanned Spaniard is a Gypsy, and the only place where Spaniards can have some Gypsy ancestry is in Sevilla and big cities of Andalucia with many Gypsies living in. Before the 80s, there was almost no Gypsy settlement out there, because outside Andalucia they were nomads (and very hated and disliked, nobody would intermarry with them and the same goes nowadays).

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Can you really tell from those pics?

Yes, it's clear enough. Although it's funny that you ask me that yet said they probably were or at least partially; what would that be based on?


The south has always had a segment of its population showing gypsy admixture - not genetically ethnic Spaniards.

Really? Have you ever come across a Gypsy/Spanish couple? That's complete taboo. When there is admixture it goes in their direction; not the other way around and almost always Spanish males with Gypsy females.

I've never seen a study that showed any Gypsy admixture in southern Spaniards. Spanish Gypsies, however, are mixed.

[Cristiano viejo]

http://www.goldelmurcia.es/ffc-619-400-619-400-cc-data/foto/VASJZRLOLC.jpg

At least 3-4 of them would be mistaken for gypsies here.
Murcia has a great number of Latinamerican immigrants because in that region they can work in the field (Murcia is known as the vegetable garden of Spain). In that pic there are a couple of Latinamerican girls.

But it´s funny that a Bulgarian talk about Gypsies so happily. Your most famous footballer ever, Hristo Stoichkov, was known as "el Gitano (the Gypsy)" in Spain.

[Anthropologique]

Ethnic Spaniards are born with that color, but not ethnic Europeans - that is correct.

An uber-Untermensch. LMAO!!

[Anthropologique]

Not every tanned Spaniard is a Gypsy, and the only place where Spaniards can have some Gypsy ancestry is in Sevilla and big cities of Andalucia with many Gypsies living in. Before the 80s, there was almost no Gypsy settlement out there, because outside Andalucia they were nomads (and very hated and disliked, nobody would intermarry with them and the same goes nowadays).

Of course, and perhaps gypsy is the wrong word. They could actually be mixed Latin Americans. There are good numbers of such people in Spain.

[Anthropologique]

Murcia has a great number of Latinamerican immigrants because in that region they can work in the field (Murcia is known as the vegetable garden of Spain). In that pic there are a couple of Latinamerican girls.

But it´s funny that a Bulgarian talk about Gypsies so happily. Your most famous footballer ever, Hristo Stoichkov, was known as "el Gitano (the Gypsy)" in Spain.

Well, you know, it's Twitch ... LOL!

[Lábaru]

That doesn't apply for Murcians. If you're going to troll, do it competently.

In terms of genetic, yes, it does.

[Trun]

Your most famous footballer ever, Hristo Stoichkov, was known as "el Gitano (the Gypsy)" in Spain.

Still he is lighter than many Spanish footballers.

[Cristiano viejo]

Still he is lighter than many Spanish footballers.
More in my favor. It´s not a matter of pigmentation, but of something more.
And that being said, it´s difficult to find Spaniaards darker than Stoichkov. Miguel Torres and Miguel Angel Nadal come to my mind. I bet that also there are Bulgarians darker than him

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ7DytMTAqhRmnCNC2H2jX_bIWzTAwYQ O2VEpimYBvC9Npcf07byppw8B0
http://www.prensalibre.com/deportes/mas_deportes/Dopaje_PREIMA20120316_0140_11.jpg
http://www.balkanleague.net/pictures/pic_b/Players%20full/Vasil%20Evtimov%202011.JPG

[Mans not hot]

Swarthies.

[B01AB20]

I've never been in Murcia :(, but someday I'd like to visit Cartagena (ex Carthago Nova), the most important city, it looks promising. :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2_dMksnmTk

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

In terms of genetic, yes, it does.

If we're talking about genetics then there is no such thing as "the Atlantic facade" in which Spaniards belong to.

What am I saying... there is no such thing as the Atlantic facade, period.

[Cristiano viejo]

I've never been in Murcia :(, but someday I'd like to visit Cartagena (ex Carthago Nova), the most important city, it looks promising. :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2_dMksnmTk
Cartagena no es más importante que Murcia, no fastidies.
Yo sí he estado, y hay una cantidad de gitanos y de yonkis fuera de lo normal.

[Lábaru]

If we're talking about genetics then there is no such thing as "the Atlantic facade" in which Spaniards belong to.

What am I saying... there is no such thing as the Atlantic facade, period.

You just need to visit the genetics section of the forum, look at the results of people and see how in all the maps there is a clear line on the left represented by the countries of Atlantic Europe, someone are further north, others more south, but all on the left, It is an undeniable fact.

Atlantic facade is that line, is not a concentrated point or a single place.

[Anthropologique]

They are not whiter than Ashkenazi Jews.

LMAO. How old are you, 5?

[Anthropologique]

You just need to visit the genetics section of the forum, look at the results of people and see how in all the maps there is a clear line on the left represented by the countries of Atlantic Europe, someone are further north, others more south, but all on the left, It is an undeniable fact.

Atlantic facade is that line, is not a concentrated point or a single place.

The Atlantic facade has existed socially and culturally just prior to the Bronze Age. People need to do some reading.

[Smeagol]

You just need to visit the genetics section of the forum, look at the results of people and see how in all the maps there is a clear line on the left represented by the countries of Atlantic Europe, someone are further north, others more south, but all on the left, It is an undeniable fact.

Atlantic facade is that line, is not a concentrated point or a single place.

By that standard there is also a North Sea facade since the British are clustering with North Germans, Dutch, and Scandinavians. But anyway it doesn't really matter, because the British are a unique people with different racial types than both continental Germanics, and Iberians.

[Anthropologique]

Still he is lighter than many Spanish footballers.

No he's not. If you're talking about the Canarians and half gypsies, they are not native Spaniards, of course.

[Lábaru]

By that standard there is also a North Sea facade since the British are clustering with North Germans, Dutch, and Scandinavians. But anyway it doesn't really matter, because the British are a unique people with different racial types than both continental Germanics, and Iberians.

The existence of the Atlantic facade does not deny the uniqueness of each one of its member, is not a tribe, is just a link.

[Anthropologique]

By that standard there is also a North Sea facade since the British are clustering with North Germans, Dutch, and Scandinavians. But anyway it doesn't really matter, because the British are a unique people with different racial types than both continental Germanics, and Iberians.

The Atlantic facade at foundation concerns thousands of years of intense socio-cultural and commercial exchange between Western Iberia, Aquitaine, Armorica (Western Brittany) and the British Isles - a large part involved trading of critical metals. It is based more on such than genetics.

The North Sea never had anything like the Atlantic facade. That is, very significant, repetitive contact on numerous levels over time.

[Anthropologique]

The existence of the Atlantic facade does not deny the uniqueness of each one of its member, is not a tribe, is just a link.

A linkage of many tribes ... and the sharing of Atlantic Celticity. The existence and importance of the Atlantic facade has been confirmed many times over by some of the world's most respected archaeologists and Celticists. Read Cunliffe (2005, 2010, 2011).

[Anthropologique]

The Atlantic facade has existed socially and culturally just prior to the Bronze Age - thousands and thousands of years. People need to do some reading.

DUPLICATION ...

[Lábaru]

Culturally the existence of the Atlantic facade existed since the bell beakers or even before, times when men built large dolmens and stones on earth.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Beaker_culture.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/Distribuci%C3%B3_megalitisme_europeu.jpg
http://www.celtiberia.net/imagftp/im283567741-Megalitismo_Europa%5B1%5D.png

Valencia(close to Murcia)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Dolmen_en_Valencia.jpg

Cantabria--->http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Megalitos_de_Cantabria
http://www.megalitos.es/mapas/cantabria.jpg
http://entropiaestetica.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/megalito.jpg

here a map, click the region of Spain and you can see Celtiberians megaliths---->http://megalitos.arqueoloxico.com/

Sweden
http://esphoto500x500.mnstatic.com/monumento-megalitico-de-ale-stenar_330459.jpg

Stonehenge ect.... who not wants to see it can remain blind, the existence of an Atlantic Facade existed before the Indo-Europeans, culturally and genetically, its existence does not deny other correlations, it's just a link.

[Anthropologique]

These are Dolmens from the Alentejo (S. Portugal). The Alentejo landscape is filled with these ancient structures.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

You just need to visit the genetics section of the forum, look at the results of people and see how in all the maps there is a clear line on the left represented by the countries of Atlantic Europe, someone are further north, others more south, but all on the left, It is an undeniable fact.

Are you kidding me? At this forum I'm probably the one most familiar with population genetics.


Atlantic facade is that line, is not a concentrated point or a single place.

You realize you can shift that line however you want in one direction or another, right? It's subjective. Genetically speaking Iberians are closer to northern Italians than the Irish, English, etc. That's not subjective; that's hard evidence.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

I don't care about very old connections that isn't all that important today. What do Bell Beakers matter today when all these nations have gone through so many cultural changes. I have nothing in common with the Irish, or English beyond mainstream European culture especially not when it comes to dental hygiene. Dentists admire my teeth. I should post a pic; they're perfect.

[Anthropologique]

From Brittany:

[Lábaru]

Are you kidding me? blayhblahblah


You realize you can shift that line however you want in one direction or another, right? blahblahblah


I don't care about very old connections that isn't all that important today. blah clah blah.


Then this conversation is over, at the end of the day you are too far from us, I can understand you do not mind.

[Anthropologique]

I don't care about very old connections that isn't all that important today. What do Bell Beakers matter today when all these nations have gone through so many cultural changes. I have nothing in common with the Irish, or English beyond mainstream European culture especially not when it comes to dental hygiene. Dentists admire my teeth. I should post a pic; they're perfect.

That's fine for you, however, many people care about their ancient heritage.

[Anthropologique]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Brainless Fiscuscaria is mad as hell because we know the truth about him. You are an Untermensch, probably from some scum ghetto. Keep showing us how much of a jack-ass you are.

[Ibericus]

If we're talking about genetics then there is no such thing as "the Atlantic facade" in which Spaniards belong to..
On genetic admixtures there are "Atlantic" components..if you are familiar with Eurogenes you shold know that...for example the last Eurogenes K15 had a "Atlantic" component that peaks both in Iberians and Irish...however this doesn't contradict the fact we are also West-Mediterranean, in some people's head the two things are not compatible.

[B01AB20]

Cartagena no es más importante que Murcia, no fastidies.

bueno, pero al menos es mas antigua y con mas solera, pero tomo nota.


Yo sí he estado, y hay una cantidad de gitanos y de yonkis fuera de lo normal.

pues en el video solo salen macizas y guapos y encima ligando... algo huele a chamusquina aquí. :rolleyes:

[WOOHP]

On genetic admixtures there are "Atlantic" components..if you are familiar with Eurogenes you shold know that...for example the last Eurogenes K15 had a "Atlantic" component that peaks both in Iberians and Irish...however this doesn't contradict the fact we are also West-Mediterranean, in some people's head the two things are not compatible.

There's also an Eastern European component, high in all Eastern Europeans. Atlantic is just like it but being a Western component instead.

Maybe Eastern Euros should create a new term too?

[Styrian Mujo]

There's also an Eastern European component, high in all Eastern Europeans. Atlantic is just like it but being a Western component instead.

Maybe Eastern Euros should create a new term too?
Balto-Pontian maybe?

[Empecinado]

bueno, pero al menos es mas antigua y con mas solera, pero tomo nota.



pues en el video solo salen macizas y guapos y encima ligando... algo huele a chamusquina aquí. :rolleyes:

A mí me gusta más Murcia que Cartagena, aunque Cartagena tiene el teatro romano con la bahía-puerto al fondo que está muy bien.

Como dice el dicho: Cartagena monte sin leña, mar sin pescado, mujeres putas, hombres cabrones y niños mal educados. xD

[Ibericus]

There's also an Eastern European component, high in all Eastern Europeans. Atlantic is just like it but being a Western component instead.

Maybe Eastern Euros should create a new term too?
Nothing new...there is a Balto-Slavic genetic component.

[Anthropologique]

Nothing new...there is a Balto-Slavic genetic component.

Seriously, none of this is being fabricated in any manner. Incredible, the resistance to things so real. :picard1:

[Cristiano viejo]

bueno, pero al menos es mas antigua y con mas solera, pero tomo nota.
Eso sí.


pues en el video solo salen macizas y guapos y encima ligando... algo huele a chamusquina aquí. :rolleyes:
Es lo que tienen los vídeos...


A mí me gusta más Murcia que Cartagena, aunque Cartagena tiene el teatro romano con la bahía-puerto al fondo que está muy bien.
Cartagena tiene mar, pero no tiene playa, con lo cual...

Como dice el dicho: Cartagena monte sin leña, mar sin pescado, mujeres putas, hombres cabrones y niños mal educados. xD[/QUOTE]
¿Conoces Lo Campano, en Cartagena? xD

[Incal]

A mí me gusta más Murcia que Cartagena, aunque Cartagena tiene el teatro romano con la bahía-puerto al fondo que está muy bien.

Como dice el dicho: Cartagena monte sin leña, mar sin pescado, mujeres putas, hombres cabrones y niños mal educados. xD

Tomo nota y me voy pallá mis próximas vacaciones.

[B01AB20]

Tomo nota y me voy pallá mis próximas vacaciones.

el burdel mas grande de Europa está en La Jonquera, bonita población catalana y paso fronterizo entre España y Francia.

y si quieres putas rusas hay que ir a Talin en Estonia; segun aike montones de españoles van a allí a ligar nórdicas y acaban de putas rusofilas.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkxBqfpxp1U

[Empecinado]

¿Conoces Lo Campano, en Cartagena? xD

He oído hablar de él por amigos cartageneros pero nunca he estado, es el puto infierno con yonkis, gitanos y toda gente de mal vivir. Este video se ha basado en ese barrio inmundo.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5cNeg-ytLk


Tomo nota y me voy pallá mis próximas vacaciones.

Jaja, no son putas en el sentido en que estás pensando. El refrán se refiere a ese tipo de putas estrechas, he ahí el problema.

[Incal]

Jaja, no son putas en el sentido en que estás pensando. El refrán se refiere a ese tipo de putas estrechas, he ahí el problema.

Putamadre, en buenahotaa que lo mencionaste, ya estaba a un click de comprar mis pasajes. Bueno no hay duda de que si uno lo que quiere es follar bien en Europa, hay que irse pal norte o el este.

[Axios]

Marowit you swarty stinky mestizo. Go back selling burritos to WASPs. LOL.

:picard2:

[Anthropologique]

That's because Spaniards and Greeks darkened "south Italians". The majority of Italians look like typical white Europeans not exotic like Spaniards and Greeks

Keep on smoking rope. Get an education ...