Female MPs from Madrid versus female MPs from Rome - compare and contrast

[Tooting Carmen]

MADRID:

http://heterodoxia.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/angeles-alvarez.jpg http://www.lavozlibre.com/userfiles/image/27%20de%20octubre%20de%202009/caye%204.jpg http://www.elpais.com/imagenRecorte.php?img=8873.jpg&imgConf=EDIGITALES_250_par http://www.congreso.es/wc/htdocs/web/img/diputados/250_10.jpg http://www.congreso.es/wc/htdocs/web/img/diputados/84_8.jpg http://www.iucpuerto.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Ascensi%C3%B3n-de-las-Heras-Ladera.jpg http://www.sueldospublicos.com/multimedia/images/59rosa_300.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-pkTK-YHPaME/T976lcC7AVI/AAAAAAAAAQA/QCryiBHZOd8/s320/p03_PlenosMunicipales_01.jpg http://izquierda-unida.es/sites/default/files/elecciones/20N/candidaturas/Caridad.jpg?1322064125 http://digitalboadilla.com/wp-content/uploads/Carbo.jpg http://www.periodistadigital.com/imagenes/retratos/2010/01/26/irene-lozano_250x310.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000195443958/66c06401cd7e248d213c8a84b036d80b.jpeg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Ana_Mato2.jpg http://clasica.estrelladigital.es/espana/Carmen-Rodriguez-Flores_ESTIMA20120921_0049_8.jpg http://blogs.periodistadigital.com/imgs/20080204/salmones.jpg http://www.hispanidad.com/imagenes/Soraya%20S%C3%A1enz%20de%20Santamar%C3%ADa%202.jpg (Deputy Prime Minister)
http://espacioseuropeos.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/elena-valenciano-psoe.jpg

[GrebluBro]

You didn't split Rome MPs??

SOme are very Italian looking despite from spain

[Tooting Carmen]

ROME:

http://static.fanpage.it/socialmediafanpage/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/argentin.jpg http://ilsimplicissimus2.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/paola-binetti.jpg http://www.agoratv.it/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/profilo-lorenza-2.jpg http://www.riparteilfuturo.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Micaela-Campana1-e1360596560321.jpg http://www.tuttoscuola.com/elezioni2013/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/mariacoscia.jpg http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000GhXNlDZJFb4/s/750/750/federica-daga2.jpg (Gypsy?)
http://www.giornalettismo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/marta-grande-2-770x769.jpg http://www.deputatipd.it/images/PD_Members/Gregori_Monica.jpg http://www.riverflash.it/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Lombardi-Roberta-space24-258x2581.jpg http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/_Hahvsa3xlWjpek5d2n4NA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NQ--/http://mit.zenfs.com/1101/2013/04/Beatrice-Lorenzin.jpg http://www.romatoday.it/~media/Articolo_normal/23157719074737/marianna-madia-2.jpg http://www.riparteilfuturo.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ileana-e1360595647716.jpg http://www.pupia.tv/includes/tiny_mce/plugins/filemanager/files/fm/01_immagini/01_italia/lazio/roma/00_politica/polverini_renata.jpg http://www.ares.mi.it/img/fck_caricate/image/roccella.jpg http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1077480/thumbs/r-RUOCCO-large570.jpg?6 (looks like a young Celine Dion)
http://blog.iodonna.it/marina-terragni/files/2013/01/MARIETTA-TIDEI-7_01.jpghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-On4nOCfuy4g/URjHFoWMnJI/AAAAAAAADSg/KXoeLKmSIkw/w331-h291-n-k/photo.jpg http://www.riparteilfuturo.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/FerrantiRiparteFuturo-e1360923939349.jpg http://andreablarasin.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/fotosaltamartini.jpg http://www.riparteilfuturo.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/img_4049_ng-e1361350243566.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

You didn't split Rome MPs??

SOme are very Italian looking despite from spain

No silly, the ones from Rome I posted below.:picard1:

[GrebluBro]

No silly, the ones from Rome I posted below.:picard1:

I posted my comment before you posted Italians :shrug:

Btw
couple of Italians and Spaniards easily pass in Spain and Italy respectively

[Tooting Carmen]

I posted my comment before you posted Italians :shrug:

Btw
couple of Italians and Spaniards easily pass in Spain and Italy respectively

Which ones?

[GrebluBro]

Which ones?

If you didn't tell me who they are.

I would have said these Spaniards as Italians:
http://www.lavozlibre.com/userfiles/image/27%20de%20octubre%20de%202009/caye%204.jpg
http://digitalboadilla.com/wp-content/uploads/Carbo.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Ana_Mato2.jpg



and these Italians as Spaniards

http://www.riparteilfuturo.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Micaela-Campana1-e1360596560321.jpg
http://www.agoratv.it/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/profilo-lorenza-2.jpg

[Sikeliot]

To me they look distinct. More Norid elements in the Romans, more Atlantid in the Spaniards. But a few of them could pass as the other.

What is more surprising is that the Romans could never be a collective group of Sicilians, and I don't think I'd even guess that many of them for such to begin with, nor would I guess them as from any of the rest of the south except maybe Campania but even there, they'd be too "light".

[Tooting Carmen]

To me they look distinct. More Norid elements in the Romans, more Atlantid in the Spaniards. But a few of them could pass as the other.


Do you agree with SouthAsian's comments as to which ones crossover?

[Lábaru]

She is not a MPs from Madrid, she is Carles Puyol.
http://digitalboadilla.com/wp-content/uploads/Carbo.jpg

[Sikeliot]

I disagree with this woman passing as a typical Italian. She looks very Iberian.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Ana_Mato2.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

I disagree with this woman passing as a typical Italian. She looks very Iberian.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Ana_Mato2.jpg

I agree actually.

[Sikeliot]

I agree actually.

With who? Me or him?

What is more shocking to me is that amongst the Romans, there's a stark contrast to Calabrese, Lucanians, Apulians and Sicilians. Even to Campanians.

[Tooting Carmen]

With who? Me or him?

What is more shocking to me is that amongst the Romans, there's a stark contrast to Calabrese, Lucanians, Apulians and Sicilians. Even to Campanians.

I agree with you. She does look very Iberian. And yes, the Romans look more Northern than Southern Italian.

[Sikeliot]

I also do not think this Roman woman looks Iberian. Not with her nose, and eye shape. She is the only one I might guess for Sicilian.

http://www.riparteilfuturo.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Micaela-Campana1-e1360596560321.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

I also do not think this Roman woman looks Iberian. Not with her nose, and eye shape. She is the only one I might guess for Sicilian.

http://www.riparteilfuturo.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Micaela-Campana1-e1360596560321.jpg

Really? I'd say she's very pan-Med actually.
EDIT: I looked her up again - she's originally from Apulia.

[Sikeliot]

Really? I'd say she's very pan-Med actually.
EDIT: I looked her up again - she's originally from Apulia.

I don't think she passes in Iberia, especially not Portugal. She has an Armenoid influence. Around here people would guess her as Jewish.

[Prince Carlo]

The sardinian Federica Daga looks like a Roma gypsy. I don't think she is 100% native.

http://www.sardegna5stelle.it/oristano/files/2013/10/fede3.jpg
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/VrgntrXScP8/0.jpg
http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000GhXNlDZJFb4/s/750/750/federica-daga2.jpg

She is from Oristano.

[Tooting Carmen]

The sardinian Federica Daga looks like a Roma gypsy. I don't think she is 100% native.

http://www.sardegna5stelle.it/oristano/files/2013/10/fede3.jpg
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/VrgntrXScP8/0.jpg
http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000GhXNlDZJFb4/s/750/750/federica-daga2.jpg

She is from Oristano.

That's why I put a question mark next to her. Anyway, what do you think about the others?

[WOOHP]

Look very much alike just what one would expect.

[Sikeliot]

Look very much alike just what one would expect.

Why would anyone expect it? They are not genetically that much similar.

Would you agree though that these people look more northern Italian than southern (the Roman pictures)?

[Tooting Carmen]

Since Sikeliot is so convinced that the Rome MPs look alien to Southern Italy, I thought I'd add the female MPs from Campania too, even though it does not appear in the thread's description. Judge for yourselves how different or similar they are to the ones from Rome.

http://www.basilicatapd.it/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Roberta_Agostini.jpg http://documenti.camera.it/_dati/leg16/schededeputatiprototipo/foto/scheda_big/d302812.jpg http://static.8100.corriereobjects.it/ssi/contents/politica/dettaglio-rappresentanti/immagini/282.jpg http://images.corrieredelmezzogiorno.corriereobjects.it/campania/fotogallery/campania/2013/02/vega_colonnese/img_vega_colonnese/1_672-458_resize.jpg http://images2.corriereobjects.it/methode_image/2013/12/07/Politica/Foto%20Gallery/giovannapalma_MGzoom.jpg?v=20131207175244 http://www.riparteilfuturo.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/download-15.jpg https://s3.amazonaws.com/PDS3/allegati/user/29405/avatar.jpg http://corrieredelmezzogiorno.corriere.it/campania/media/foto/2008/02/11/valente--140x180.jpg http://www.cilentonotizie.it/public/images/27122012_Sabrina-Capozzolo_01.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/Mara_Carfagna.jpg/220px-Mara_Carfagna.jpg http://www.julienews.it/upload/news/200000/90000/3000/700/293772_0_1.jpg http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Nunzia+De+Girolamo+VZaMFgd134Sm.jpg (She's the Agriculture Minister, and also happens to be the youngest Cabinet Minister)
http://static.tuttogratis.it/attualita/fotogallery/628X0/80985/silvia-giordano.jpg http://static.fanpage.it/socialmediafanpage/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/paris-300x225.jpg http://noi.caserta.it/userfiles/2013/11/20/petrenga-pdl.jpg http://noi.caserta.it/userfiles/2013/07/15/pina-picierno.jpg

[Sikeliot]

^ They don't look quite Calabrese or Sicilian, but they look all in all more Med than the ones from Madrid and Lazio.

[Ibericus]

I also do not think this Roman woman looks Iberian. Not with her nose, and eye shape. She is the only one I might guess for Sicilian.

http://www.riparteilfuturo.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Micaela-Campana1-e1360596560321.jpg
This roman looks exotic, or maybe she operated her face ?

[Sikeliot]

This roman looks exotic, or maybe she operated her face ?

She is actually Apulian.

[Tooting Carmen]

^ They don't look quite Calabrese or Sicilian, but they look all in all more Med than the ones from Madrid and Lazio.

Fine, here are the Sicilian female MPs for you then:

http://www.ansa.it/webimages/foto_large/2013/2/26/6a20730ef7936a1b5913a44cb46d8e15.jpg https://s3.amazonaws.com/PDS3/allegati/user/3880/avatar.jpg http://www.magdaculotta.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/magda-culotta.jpg http://documenti.camera.it/_dati/leg17/schededeputatiprototipo/foto/scheda_big/d306045.jpg http://www.riparteilfuturo.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Giulia-Di-Vita-pic-e1360333069904.jpg http://media.polisblog.it/g/gab/gabriella-giammanco/d7c30beaf9e07843ea12bd0933358e69.jpeg http://www.agrigentooggi.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/SAM_0393.jpg http://documenti.camera.it/_dati/leg17/schededeputatiprototipo/foto/scheda_big/d306048.jpg http://www.ilvespro.it/uploads/images/Claudia.jpg http://www.riparteilfuturo.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/teresa-piccione-foto1-e1360333532499.jpg http://www.blogsicilia.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Gea-Schir%C3%B2-Planeta.jpg http://livesicilia.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Luisa_Albanella1-276x415.jpg http://vs2.streamcaster.net/webmartetv/5641defb-30f5-40c2-b372-ef3a7cdd5260.jpg http://stateoftheunion.eui.eu/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Laura-Boldrini_photo-e1365759381987.jpg http://documenti.camera.it/_dati/leg17/schededeputatiprototipo/foto/scheda_big/d306106.jpg http://you-ng.it/images/GRILLO-_-giulia-sarti_MILESTONE-640.jpg http://www.javan24.it/public/Javan24/News/Patti%20in%20Web%20Foto/20131127_140258-Maria_Tindara_Gullo1-415x415.jpg http://www.sicilia5stelle.it/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/lorefice.jpg http://www.radiortm.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/maria_marzana.jpg http://www.db-decision.de/Interviews/Italien/Prestigiacomo.jpg

[Sikeliot]

^ A few of them look North African influenced, and the rest look intermediate between the Campanians and the Greeks in the other thread. What do you think?

[Tooting Carmen]

^ A few of them look North African influenced, and the rest look intermediate between the Campanians and the Greeks in the other thread. What do you think?

Yes, something like that.

[Sikeliot]

This one also looks like a high caste Indian.

http://stateoftheunion.eui.eu/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Laura-Boldrini_photo-e1365759381987.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

This one also looks like a high caste Indian.

http://stateoftheunion.eui.eu/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Laura-Boldrini_photo-e1365759381987.jpg

Her mouth is a bit weird, but apart from that she looks like a fairly normal Southern European.

[Anthropologique]

If you didn't tell me who they are.

I would have said these Spaniards as Italians:
http://www.lavozlibre.com/userfiles/image/27%20de%20octubre%20de%202009/caye%204.jpg
http://digitalboadilla.com/wp-content/uploads/Carbo.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Ana_Mato2.jpg



and these Italians as Spaniards

http://www.riparteilfuturo.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Micaela-Campana1-e1360596560321.jpg
http://www.agoratv.it/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/profilo-lorenza-2.jpg

Not really.

[Anthropologique]

This roman looks exotic, or maybe she operated her face ?

Just about all he MPs are ugly as F$#K.

[Anthropologique]

Why would anyone expect it? They are not genetically that much similar.

Would you agree though that these people look more northern Italian than southern (the Roman pictures)?

I can tell easily who are Spaniards vis-a-vis Italians.

As usual, WOOHP - a person who should be on everyone's ignore list - makes a clownish remark.

[Tooting Carmen]

ROME
http://www.radioyang.it/img/ospiti/eugenia_roccella.jpg http://www.decoderonline.it/sito/images/economia/monica_gregori.jpg

MADRID
http://estaticos.elmundo.es/elmundo/imagenes/2012/12/10/espana/1355157139_extras_ladillos_1_0.jpghttp://www.elimparcial.es/files/fotos/rodriguez_d_2.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

MADRID:
http://estaticos01.elmundo.es/elmundo/imagenes/2013/07/03/espana/1372855302_extras_ladillos_1_0.jpg

[Ulla]

Many of them are not really from Rome.

[Ulla]

ROME:

http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000GhXNlDZJFb4/s/750/750/federica-daga2.jpg

She is from Sardinia.

[Tooting Carmen]

Many of them are not really from Rome.

Yes I know that, but they represent Rome in the Italian Parliament. Anyway, I'm just using them as a proxy for Italian phenotypes.

[askra]

The sardinian Federica Daga looks like a Roma gypsy. I don't think she is 100% native.

http://www.sardegna5stelle.it/oristano/files/2013/10/fede3.jpg
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/VrgntrXScP8/0.jpg
http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000GhXNlDZJFb4/s/750/750/federica-daga2.jpg

She is from Oristano.

I agree with you Prince Carlo aka Joseph Capelli aka Facader from Italic Roots.

I don't realise because you are getting angry now, can't i agree with you, saying that this politician is not 100% native? Why are calling me butthurt? i have only repeated what you wrote here months ago.

[Dani Cutie]

MADRID:
http://estaticos01.elmundo.es/elmundo/imagenes/2013/07/03/espana/1372855302_extras_ladillos_1_0.jpg

You are a bit hater i think.

[Odin]

Madrid ones are mainly Atlanto-Meds, Rome ones are mainly Dinaro-Meds.

[Regnera]

In this pictures Italian women have squarer face shapes or stronger jaw than Spanish women,Spanish women have longer or more gracile face shape.