Female MPs from Lisbon versus female MPs from Athens - compare and contrast

[Tooting Carmen]

LISBON:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gz7BQ-x0cNw/SwM3e6lf1DI/AAAAAAAACds/oQFW5IJI1G4/s1600/Ana+Drago.bmphttp://psdlisboa.net/admin/uploads/files/Deputados_-_Ana_Sofia_Bettencourt.jpg http://cdn.controlinveste.pt/storage/DN/2012/big/ng2004476.JPG http://cdn.controlinveste.pt/Storage/JN/2012/medium/ng2186678.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rfjnZv6HNxw/Um0Oaoh271I/AAAAAAAAAYM/ueq7EwZfVo4/s1600/HAzenha.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_OW4xGAhQ3ZI/S9-HsAJ7c_I/AAAAAAAAC4c/-7Y0yvrV_tk/s1600/ines_medeiros.jpg http://lisboa.ps.pt/wp-content/uploads/inesdrummond.jpg http://imagens8.publico.pt/imagens.aspx/730448?tp=UH&db=IMAGENS http://www.cds.parlamento.pt/gp/images/stories/deputados/galria.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0xA000iEcKo/TjrIXi00nmI/AAAAAAAADq4/RCPdk9vzNP4/s1600/jaona+lopes.jpeg http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/N1H9O0i_KR4/hqdefault.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7134/6927883198_94c76ddd72_o.jpg http://imgs.sapo.pt/gfx/476097.gif http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MiD4vV2Hf-c/ThX8kVduVlI/AAAAAAAAGOI/ub4FLb5YHMM/s1600/Maria+Jos%25C3%25A9+Nogueira+Pinto.jpg http://www.segurancahumana.eu/data/res/e3/1671.jpghttp://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6vdyxo4OJ1r55b4w.jpg http://pagina.lisboa.cds.pt/gestor/ficheiros/lisboa/deputados/mor.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Paula_Teixeira_da_Cruz_(face).jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_O5NtdNR9GBo/TNu4kCGDJHI/AAAAAAAAEkM/7RooDq15QSA/s1600/rita_calv%25C3%25A1rio%2528BE%2529.jpg http://images.dinheirovivo.pt/ECO/File?dDocName=CIECO021295&fileName=A101-161786393147184645207605624.jpg&rendition=extra_wide&SID=99532

[Tooting Carmen]

LISBON:

http://www.cds.parlamento.pt/gp/images/stories/deputados/caeiro.jpg

[Sikeliot]

I haven't seen the Greek ones yet, but some of those above could surely pass as Greek. I see a few however who look almost Basque, and some who look very distinctly Portuguese.

[B01AB20]

in lisbon they look like north spaniards, no lavitaebella? :D (tio, vaya burrada de nick que has escogido, estaba lloviendo o que?)

[Tooting Carmen]

ATHENS:

http://www.newspistol.com/content/data/multimedia/images/imagescache/7512ba45f324d90b810b619e84a432a9e2fd6288.500.715.a 22b42c7d7899d9b0badb51836af8d2240726586.gif http://www.gnominews.gr/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/anna-karamanli.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-oeE1EpomGhc/Tx4Ktu_SEkI/AAAAAAAADF0/DOZNav7-Fj8/s1600/sofia-sakorafa.jpg http://www.fimes.gr/wp-content/uploads/eirini-dourou-310x232.jpg http://www.issalos.com/vjmag/images/stories/arthra/septemvris12/balabanh%20nantia.jpg http://www.hellenicparliament.gr/UserThumbs/ead3237d-2c71-43a9-b9ae-057fcbd6268d/thumbs_80x101/KafantariXaroula_1.png http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2012/10/19/313606.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Aleka_Papariga.jpg/220px-Aleka_Papariga.jpg http://www.naftemporiki.gr/fu/p/605415/638/399/0x0000000000497435/2/i-upourgos-tourismou-olga-kefalogianni.jpg http://www.grreporter.info/en/sites/default/files/galery/maria/fwteini_pipili_114291640.jpg http://www.quiendebeaquien.org/IMG/jpg/10_maria_bolari_david_fdez.jpg http://fe-mail.gr/media/Image/interviews/2007/6/kountoura/elena_kountoura_2.jpg http://www.starshipnivan.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Liana-Kanelli-300x273.jpg

[Sikeliot]

They look more similar than I would assume, but there are a few amongst each group that just could not pass as the other. There are also types I see in the Greek group that reflect a "Pontid" sort of look common to the Balkans, and one or two who are familiar to me from seeing similar looks in southern Italians, and these aren't present in the Portuguese.

I think it'd have been interesting if you had people guess who was who.

[Anthropologique]

Only a handful can pass as Greek.

[Damião de Góis]

in lisbon they look like north spaniards, no lavitaebella? :D (tio, vaya burrada de nick que has escogido, estaba lloviendo o que?)

The "MPs from Lisbon" are from everywhere except Lisbon, i can see some from Porto and others from Algarve or Trás-os-montes. One of the ones posted that are from Lisbon, died in 2011:

http://www.lux.iol.pt/multimedia/oratvi/multimedia/imagem/id/13453458/660x495

[Sikeliot]

This Greek one can even pass in the UK though.. she looks like Kate Middleton's sister.

http://www.naftemporiki.gr/fu/p/605415/638/399/0x0000000000497435/2/i-upourgos-tourismou-olga-kefalogianni.jpg

But that's about it.

[Tooting Carmen]

They look more similar than I would assume, but there are a few amongst each group that just could not pass as the other. There are also types I see in the Greek group that reflect a "Pontid" sort of look common to the Balkans, and one or two who are familiar to me from seeing similar looks in southern Italians, and these aren't present in the Portuguese.

I think it'd have been interesting if you had people guess who was who.

Of the two sets, which ones look distinctly Portuguese or Greek, and which ones could easily pass as the other?

[Tooting Carmen]

The "MPs from Lisbon" are from everywhere except Lisbon, i can see some from Porto and others from Algarve or Trás-os-montes. One of the ones posted that are from Lisbon, died in 2011:

http://www.lux.iol.pt/multimedia/oratvi/multimedia/imagem/id/13453458/660x495

I mean that they REPRESENT Lisbon in the Portuguese Parliament, not that they necessarily come from there originally. Anyway, would you say they are a good mix of Portuguese phenotypes?

[Sikeliot]

Cannot pass as Greek (or Italian either):

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/N1H9O0i_KR4/hqdefault.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gz7BQ-x0cNw/SwM3e6lf1DI/AAAAAAAACds/oQFW5IJI1G4/s1600/Ana+Drago.bmp
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_O5NtdNR9GBo/TNu4kCGDJHI/AAAAAAAAEkM/7RooDq15QSA/s1600/rita_calv%25C3%25A1rio%2528BE%2529.jpg


Cannot pass as Portuguese:

http://fe-mail.gr/media/Image/interviews/2007/6/kountoura/elena_kountoura_2.jpg
http://www.newspistol.com/content/data/multimedia/images/imagescache/7512ba45f324d90b810b619e84a432a9e2fd6288.500.715.a 22b42c7d7899d9b0badb51836af8d2240726586.gif
http://www.gnominews.gr/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/anna-karamanli.jpg

[Anthropologique]

I prefer carefully chosen group or crowd photos, to be honest.

[Damião de Góis]

I mean that they REPRESENT Lisbon in the Portuguese Parliament, not that they necessarily come from there originally. Anyway, would you say they are a good mix of Portuguese phenotypes?

I guess so.

[Anthropologique]

I mean that they REPRESENT Lisbon in the Portuguese Parliament, not that they necessarily come from there originally. Anyway, would you say they are a good mix of Portuguese phenotypes?

IMO, not the best mix for Portuguese. That's why I prefer group and crowd pics.

[GrebluBro]

1/5th of Lisbon MPs look Latina (Euro-leaning)

Out of 20 MPs,
easily 4 of them would be taken as Latina in the US..
4 of these 5.

http://www.cds.parlamento.pt/gp/images/stories/deputados/galria.jpghttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/_O5NtdNR9GBo/TNu4kCGDJHI/AAAAAAAAEkM/7RooDq15QSA/s1600/rita_calv%25C3%25A1rio%2528BE%2529.jpghttp://www.cds.parlamento.pt/gp/images/stories/deputados/caeiro.jpg

http://s11.postimg.org/ufjk1s8kj/Paula_Teixeira_da_Cruz_face.jpghttp://psdlisboa.net/admin/uploads/files/Deputados_-_Ana_Sofia_Bettencourt.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

1/5th of Lisbon MPs look Latina (Euro-leaning)

:picard1:

[GrebluBro]

:picard1:

I posted 5 females (prev post edited), easily 4 of them would be taken as Latina (Euro-leaning) in the US..

[Tooting Carmen]

I posted 5 females (prev post edited), easily 4 of them would be taken as Latina (Euro-leaning) in the US..

LOL? Leaving aside the minority of Whites, most Mexicans in this thread - and in real life, for that matter - are far removed from even the darkest Portuguese people. http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?116701-MPs-from-Mexico-City&highlight=mexico+city

[GrebluBro]

LOL? Leaving aside the minority of Whites, most Mexicans in this thread - and in real life, for that matter - are far removed from even the darkest Portuguese people. http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?116701-MPs-from-Mexico-City&highlight=mexico+city

Their look doesn't matter..
What Americans think is what matters..
Easily 1/5th :shrug:

[Tooting Carmen]

Their look doesn't matter..
What Americans think is what matters..
Easily 1/5th :shrug:

I don't think Americans are quite as thick and blind as that. Leaving aside the difference in skin tone, even a very olive-skinned Portuguese person still has a COMPLETELY different facial structure to a typical Mestizo from Mexico (or, for that matter, Central America, Colombia or Venezuela).

[GrebluBro]

I don't think Americans are quite as thick and blind as that. Leaving aside the difference in skin tone, even a very olive-skinned Portuguese person still has a COMPLETELY different facial structure to a typical Mestizo from Mexico (or, for that matter, Central America, Colombia or Venezuela).

Why TA members keep assuming Mestizo/Harnizo when I mean Latino? :picard2:

I clearly said Castizo or more Euro-looking Latino type.

Even Penelope Cruz is Latina..Antonio Banderas is White though..
In other words, anyone who can pass in both Europe (atypical) and MENA (atpical or typical like in Levant, North Africa, etc) would be taken as Latino in the US..
Exceptions: strong Italian looking people

[aherne]

LISBON:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_OW4xGAhQ3ZI/S9-HsAJ7c_I/AAAAAAAAC4c/-7Y0yvrV_tk/s1600/ines_medeiros.jpg


This one looks amazing: so feminine, so beautiful... Reminds me of Turkish women (Alpine + some Med)

[mourtsouflos]

A few more from Greece:

http://www.exedra.gr/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/%CE%95%CE%A5%CE%91.jpg

http://now24.gr/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/rapti.jpg

http://left.gr/sites/left.gr/files/iro_dioth_medium.jpg

http://avradoridas.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/417694_260105794125301_1530899773_n.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5CW6X5d1HOE/TKnsqcPHedI/AAAAAAAABmM/4VZW1fxmr6A/s1600/giannakopoulou.jpg

http://www.protothema.gr/files/1/2012/05/08/gunaikes--vouli/34.jpg

http://www.sierafm.gr/sierafm/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/%CE%BC%CE%B1%CE%BA%CF%81%CE%B7-%CF%81%CE%B1%CF%87%CE%B7%CE%BB.jpg

http://content-mcdn.imerisia.gr/filesystem/images/20130801/low/assets_LARGE_t_942_43576882.JPG

http://www.protothema.gr/files/1/2012/05/08/gunaikes--vouli/38.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

Some more MPs who I either did not post or whose photos have been lost:

LISBON
http://www.mundolusiada.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/MonicaFerro_PSD.jpg http://p3.publico.pt/sites/default/files/marianamortagua1.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6032/5880758590_b05cdd35f9_m.jpg

ATHENS
http://ysterografa.gr/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/papakosta-thumb-large1.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mXAz67GEI4w/ULUfL-njCeI/AAAAAAAAAQw/kxn9H7DkX-g/s1600/12402295.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

LISBON:
http://cdusoure.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/ritam221209-3d59.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

ATHENS
http://www.fimes.gr/wp-content/uploads/eleni-zaroulia-poia-einai-i-syzygos-tou-nikou-mixaloliakou-1-315x236.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

LISBON
http://www.cidadeviva.pt/modulos/imagens/destaques/nots_4758.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

ATHENS:
http://www.naftemporiki.gr/fu/p/658182/638/399/0x0000000000644e8e/2/i-bouleutis-tou-syriza-zoi-konstantopoulou-ko-syriza.jpghttps://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rjlY0thNPHc/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/Xv5DrUyv2hg/photo.jpg

[Sikeliot]

LISBON
http://www.cidadeviva.pt/modulos/imagens/destaques/nots_4758.jpg

Looks NW Euro.

[Tooting Carmen]

Looks NW Euro.

Not in the slightest.

[Sikeliot]

Not in the slightest.

Definitely not a Med type... Totally foreign to my eyes.

[Tooting Carmen]

Definitely not a Med type... Totally foreign to my eyes.

I was for a long time reluctant to post her because to me she actually looks Mestiza, what with that eye shape and cheekbones. However, both Alex and Lusos said she looks fully Portuguese, so she's in this thread now.

[Odin]

Lisbon ones are mainly Gracile-Meds, Athens ones are Alpine-Meds.