Which of these Australian actresses would pass most easily in Mexico?

[Tooting Carmen]

Kate Ritchie
http://i2.cdnds.net/13/11/618x684/soaps-home-and-awaykate-ritchie-sally-fletcher.jpg

Rhiannon Fish
http://i1.cdnds.net/13/05/618x555/soaps-home-and-away-rhiannon-fish-april-scott.jpg

Demi Harman
http://wwwcdn.channel5.com/assets/images/000/038/574/full_left_column_DemiHarman_PLAYS_SashaBezmel_D5.j pg?1363785272

[Tooting Carmen]

When people vote, I'd appreciate their reasons for their particular choice.

[Sikeliot]

Third one, though she looks more like a dark Welsh. She is the only one who passes in Iberia, and the others just look white to me.

[Tooting Carmen]

Any more suggestions please?

[mikeyup]

3rd one swell... although the second one could also pass here, but she wouldn't look typical

[Tooting Carmen]

Bump

[Also]

I'd say Fish. But I don't see mexicans in real life.

[Tooting Carmen]

I'd say Fish. But I don't see mexicans in real life.

Out of curiosity, which one would be more typical for Brazil?

[Also]

Out of curiosity, which one would be more typical for Brazil?

Both Harman and Fish.

[MissProvocateur]

Probably the second and third one. But mostly the third one.

[Argentano]

Demi Harman
http://wwwcdn.channel5.com/assets/images/000/038/574/full_left_column_DemiHarman_PLAYS_SashaBezmel_D5.j pg?1363785272

you asked me who would fit better in argentina...

i think the last one would fit better as she looks more similar to people like Araceli Gonzalez

http://beach.fmrockandpop.com/files/2010/09/ARACELI-GONZALEZ.jpg

or aracelis daughter

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/mN7pWNfQBBgH2Cyjvs9qIw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYxMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/es-AR/blogs/artista-del-momento/Torrente-Florencia2.jpg

or juana viale

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_t8ij6oiAZno/TOQxw-GSchI/AAAAAAAAAes/46Z3AKIXkwE/s1600/Hola%2B-%2BNoviembre%2B2010%2B-%2BJuana%2BViale%2B003.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

you asked me who would fit better in argentina...

i think the last one would fit better as she looks more similar to people like Araceli Gonzalez

http://beach.fmrockandpop.com/files/2010/09/ARACELI-GONZALEZ.jpg

or aracelis daughter

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/mN7pWNfQBBgH2Cyjvs9qIw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYxMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/es-AR/blogs/artista-del-momento/Torrente-Florencia2.jpg

or juana viale

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_t8ij6oiAZno/TOQxw-GSchI/AAAAAAAAAes/46Z3AKIXkwE/s1600/Hola%2B-%2BNoviembre%2B2010%2B-%2BJuana%2BViale%2B003.jpg

Thanks. I was curious to your opinion regarding both Mexico AND Argentina.

[Argentano]

Thanks. I was curious to your opinion regarding both Mexico AND Argentina.

mm you should ask mexicans about that...

[Awebo]

Both Fish and Harman could pass easily.

Fish actually somewhat resembles Mexican actress Danna Paola.

[Tooting Carmen]

Anyone else?

[RMuller]

The second one can pass as Mexican the most. She reminds me of Eurasian mixes.

[RMuller]

Harman could pass easily.
http://wwwcdn.channel5.com/assets/images/000/038/574/full_left_column_DemiHarman_PLAYS_SashaBezmel_D5.j pg?1363785272


'PASS EASILY'??? SHE can't pass at all. She can pass easily in Argentina but not in Mexico. If she could easily pass in Mexico you could see her phenotype in every Mexican city and she would be common also in Amerindian states like Chiapas,Oaxaca etc.

[Awebo]

You're an idiot, of course she can pass. It's not like woman is some pale, platinum blonde, blue-eyed nordid. You're not even Mexican. :picard1:

[Crn Volk]

Fish is of Canadian background. Her mother looks Amerind

[Armand_Duval]

Rhiannon Fish IMHO.

[RMuller]

You're an idiot, of course she can pass. It's not like woman is some pale, platinum blonde, blue-eyed nordid. You're not even Mexican. :picard1:


You are an idiot if you believe any white person who is brunete with brown eyes can pass easily in Mexico.Typical self hating Mexican who believes Mexico is Argentina partt2. You probably believe her phenotype can be found in every street corner in Mexico. :picard2::picard1: idiota!!!

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Demi Harman is honestly the only one I see being typical. The first one has something about her face which is not to commonly seen anywhere in the Americas really! Funny because The Americas and Australia are both immigrant areas... could she be part aboriginal?

[Carlito's Way]

Rhiannon Fish
http://i1.cdnds.net/13/05/618x555/soaps-home-and-away-rhiannon-fish-april-scott.jpg

Demi Harman
http://wwwcdn.channel5.com/assets/images/000/038/574/full_left_column_DemiHarman_PLAYS_SashaBezmel_D5.j pg?1363785272

honestly both of these girls can easily pass in Mexico but if i had to pick between the two, i went for Rhiannon Fish

[Han Cholo]

You are an idiot if you believe any white person who is brunete with brown eyes can pass easily in Mexico.Typical self hating Mexican who believes Mexico is Argentina partt2. You probably believe her phenotype can be found in every street corner in Mexico. :picard2::picard1: idiota!!!

Passing doesn't mean her phenotype is average or that every other Mexican girl looks like that. If a phenotype can be found in 1 between 100 then it's safe to say it can pass. Stop overreacting. She can pass. I've seen people more or less a bit like her.

It doesn't matter if you don't see people like her in the streets of Oaxaca. There are many kinds of Mestizos in the North and West that you can't really find so often in Oaxaca and that doesn't mean they "don't pass in Mexico".

[RMuller]

Passing doesn't mean her phenotype is average or that every other Mexican girl looks like that. If a phenotype can be found in 1 between 100 then it's safe to say it can pass. Stop overreacting. She can pass. I've seen people more or less a bit like her.

Yes,yes their is million of Mexicanas that look like Miss Hartman.Hartman is so common last name in Mexico. She can't pass easily.Sheis not common phenotype. Common Phenotype are the ones in Miss Mexico thread. Even the gueras on miss Mexico thread look more common in Mexico. just because this girl is brunete and has brown hair means she can pass .




It doesn't matter if you don't see people like her in the streets of Oaxaca. There are many kinds of Mestizos in the North and West that you can't really find so often in Oaxaca and that doesn't mean they "don't pass in Mexico".

miss hartman doesn't even look mestizas at all.

[Han Cholo]

Yes,yes their is million of Mexicanas that look like Miss Hartman.Hartman is so common last name in Mexico. She can't pass easily.Sheis not common phenotype. Common Phenotype are the ones in Miss Mexico thread. Even the gueras on miss Mexico thread look more common in Mexico. just because this girl is brunete and has brown hair means she can pass

Honestly if I saw her in the street I wouldn't be very surprised either. Not that her look is common but still not foreign enough to call attention.






miss hartman doesn't even look mestizas at all.

She is a North European with a bit chinky features, a bit broad cheekbones.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

These threads are rather entertaining lol.

[Also]

Fish and Harman look like a lot of brazilians too.

[Carlito's Way]

Fish and Harman look like a lot of brazilians too.

yup thats true, i saw many like them in Brazil

[SardiniaAtlantis]

The Mouth the Jaw and Nose area on that Ritchie are very strange to me still and I think Ive only seen this in Down Under girls.

[Gauthier]

All of them could pass without a problem among the middle & upper classes.


http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1779/kr57.jpg
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/4803/nyct.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/nyct.jpg/)
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5756/v85d.jpg (http://img40.imageshack.us/i/v85d.jpg/)
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/9615/m3um.jpg (http://img46.imageshack.us/i/m3um.jpg/)
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7579/ik4z.jpg (http://img163.imageshack.us/i/ik4z.jpg/)
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3613/ukm3.jpg (http://img692.imageshack.us/i/ukm3.jpg/)
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/1975/7yq2.jpg (http://img826.imageshack.us/i/7yq2.jpg/)
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2677/mul0.jpg (http://img407.imageshack.us/i/mul0.jpg/)
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6997/925u.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/925u.jpg/)
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/8625/4dbu.jpg (http://img708.imageshack.us/i/4dbu.jpg/)
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/9963/qgs.jpg (http://img845.imageshack.us/i/qgs.jpg/)
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/7799/qk1n.jpg (http://img849.imageshack.us/i/qk1n.jpg/)
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/3750/g31z.jpg (http://img593.imageshack.us/i/g31z.jpg/)
http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/1761/f0d4.jpg
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8401/mmyu.jpg

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Their upper classes seem to be all hipster in a trashy way.

[Gauthier]

Those pics were not taken at a dance ball you know. They are at pool parties where young people go to get wasted. :rolleyes:

[Grace O'Malley]

Kate Ritchie
http://i2.cdnds.net/13/11/618x684/soaps-home-and-awaykate-ritchie-sally-fletcher.jpg

Rhiannon Fish
http://i1.cdnds.net/13/05/618x555/soaps-home-and-away-rhiannon-fish-april-scott.jpg

Demi Harman
http://wwwcdn.channel5.com/assets/images/000/038/574/full_left_column_DemiHarman_PLAYS_SashaBezmel_D5.j pg?1363785272

Rhiannon Fish is originally Canadian and Demi Harman has an Australian mother and American father (don't know ancestry). Kate Richie is an Australian with long term roots here. One thing I've noticed is it is very difficult to find Australian actors' ancestry whereas for Americans everything is there no matter how distant.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Interesting that you say Ritchie has long term roots in Australia given what I said about her... leads me to suspect I may be right on the Aborigine thing.

[Grace O'Malley]

Interesting that you say Ritchie has long term roots in Australia given what I said about her... leads me to suspect I may be right on the Aborigine thing.

Yes it's possible. There are quite a few Australians with some Aboriginal ancestry but it's more than likely Kate Ritchie is just of British stock as well. Hard to say when there no info on their ancestry.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Yes Alice but dont you notice something rather peculiar about her as well? From my experience like I said this type you only find in Australia.

[Grace O'Malley]

Yes Alice but dont you notice something rather peculiar about her as well? From my experience like I said this type you only find in Australia.

Yes her bone structure is a bit unusual but I don't think she has obvious Aboriginal ancestry. It is possible as there are most likely Australians walking around who have Aboriginal blood and don't even know it. Here are some people who identify as Aboriginal.

http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2012/03/20/1226305/373588-120324-twam-composite.jpg
http://images.smh.com.au/2010/11/03/2024316/Tarran_Betterridge-420x0.jpg

[SardiniaAtlantis]

The woman with the curly hair has some similarity and it almost makes me recall some girls of South Asian extraction I've seen which of course is connected to Aboriginals.

[Sippola]

Third one, though she looks more like a dark Welsh. She is the only one who passes in Iberia, and the others just look white to me.

I second that, the third one.

[Grace O'Malley]

The woman with the curly hair has some similarity and it almost makes me recall some girls of South Asian extraction I've seen which of course is connected to Aboriginals.

Well you could be right. It wouldn't be a big surprise. Maybe you're just more attuned than me. You would be surprised at some of the people with Aboriginal blood. A lot of them can be blue eyed blonds.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Iv'e seen a fascinating documentary on Aboriginals from Australia's ABC it shows Aboriginal descendants of all shades, still It is a very extreme phenotype to completely get rid of so fast.

[Grace O'Malley]

Iv'e seen a fascinating documentary on Aboriginals from Australia's ABC it shows Aboriginal descendants of all shades, still It is a very extreme phenotype to completely get rid of so fast.

You would be surprised. It can disappear quite quickly. These are Evonne Goolagong Cawley's children. Evonne is a famous Aboriginal tennis player. Most Aboriginals are of mixed ancestry anyway.

http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/phillyburbs.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/0/d1/0d1b481e-298f-55f4-bfb0-df8ca9fa5ff1/4dc3410f95869.preview-300.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/32411_528142060531468_500603570_n.jpg?lvh=1

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Like you said Evonne herself isnt fully Abo herself so this took a few generations..

[Grace O'Malley]

Like you said Evonne herself isnt fully Abo herself so this took a few generations..

Most aboriginal people in the metropolitan area have mixed ancestry. The full blood aboriginals are usually in very remote places like far north Queensland and the North West. Most in towns and surburbia are mixed.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Exactly... but that just goes to prove what I mean a pure blooded Aboriginal would not produce children that look that way. Anyhow the thing is in Oz you guys call the heavily mixed Metropolitan Aboriginals simply Aboriginals and don't think of them any other way where as in the rest of the world when we say Aboriginal we mean a purely Aboriginal person!

[Grace O'Malley]

Exactly... but that just goes to prove what I mean a pure blooded Aboriginal would not produce children that look that way. Anyhow the thing is in Oz you guys call the heavily mixed Metropolitan Aboriginals simply Aboriginals and don't think of them any other way where as in the rest of the world when we say Aboriginal we mean a purely Aboriginal person!

Yes they are all Aboriginals and identify as such. Some very white looking people also identify as Aboriginal and are accepted as such.

This man Michael Mansell is an Aboriginal lawyer and activist. Most of the people in the background are Aboriginal also.

http://images.smh.com.au/2013/10/27/4864261/AC_LeadWide_Mansell-20131027100329787839-620x349.jpg
http://caama.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Michael-Mansell-5823676.jpg

[SardiniaAtlantis]

I have a question not regarding aboriginals this time but in Oz would I be called a Wog and is that still a bad thing?!

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Just curious because Id love to visit but not sure about the whole Wog thing lol.

[Grace O'Malley]

I have a question not regarding aboriginals this time but in Oz would I be called a Wog and is that still a bad thing?!

Haha some might call you a Wog as a term of endearment. There are a lot of Italians and Greeks here but hardly any Spanish. Italians and Greeks are very much part of the Australian landscape and very well liked. You can't even insult someone by calling them a Wog since this movie came out about 14 years ago.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_QsSOMYI9Y

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Well despite being half Spanish I identify much more as a Sardinian and then after as Italian. Living in the US Ive come to appreciate and feel much closer to the Italian label as outside of Italy you realize how much more similar you are than different between regions lol.
What I am saying is would I be immediately categorized as Wog or would I not be seen as such?

[Grace O'Malley]

Well despite being half Spanish I identify much more as a Sardinian and then after as Italian. Living in the US Ive come to appreciate and feel much closer to the Italian label as outside of Italy you realize how much more similar you are than different between regions lol.
What I am saying is would I be immediately categorized as Wog or would I not be seen as such?

You would be seen as an American primarily. Anyway there are a lot of Australians with Italian and Greek heritage. You would have no problems here.

[RMuller]

http://wwwcdn.channel5.com/assets/images/000/038/574/full_left_column_DemiHarman_PLAYS_SashaBezmel_D5.j pg?1363785272
Honestly if I saw her in the street I wouldn't be very surprised either. Not that her look is common but still not foreign enough to call attention.

If her phenotype was easily so common why can't she pass in this crowd?
http://www.milenio.com/cultura/parte-actividades-culturales-concierto-duranguense_MILIMA20130717_0600_8.jpg







She is a North European with a bit chinky features, a bit broad cheekbones.

Northern European phenotypes and supposely with chink features are so so extremly rare in Mexico.
It's like saying Chinese phenotypes are common in Mexico because you have seen one chino in your lifetime in Mexico.

[Crn Volk]

Well despite being half Spanish I identify much more as a Sardinian and then after as Italian. Living in the US Ive come to appreciate and feel much closer to the Italian label as outside of Italy you realize how much more similar you are than different between regions lol.
What I am saying is would I be immediately categorized as Wog or would I not be seen as such?

The Aussie chicks would love you man

[Lemon Kush]

Third

[Tooting Carmen]

Fish is of Canadian background. Her mother looks Amerind

Do you have any photos of her mother?

[Crn Volk]

Do you have any photos of her mother?

no, i saw her parents on tv recently

[Tooting Carmen]

As a side note, Home and Away, the soap opera all three of the actresses in question have starred in, is the only programme I have ever watched where the men are blonder than the women. In most programmes, regardless of the country of origin, it is very much the other way round, insofar as there is a discrepancy at all. Here is a sample of men who have starred in the soap in recent years: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?102183-Classify-these-Australian-actors-who-used-to-be-in-the-soap-quot-Home-and-Away-quot&highlight=conrad+coleby

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

I think the third one. she can pass most easily in Mexico but not as mestiza tho but as a pred white/Euro Mexican.

[alnortedelsur]

Probably the second and third one. But mostly the third one.

The third one, and probably the second one (thought no that well as the third one) could pass as middle class Mexicans. The first one looks too Anglo.

They (2nd and 3rd) would also pass as middle class Venezuelans in my native country.

[Erronkari]

"I'd say Fish."

I Agree.