How do we fight feminism?

[Also]

Feminism is a filthy ideology, promotes the destruction of family unity and traditional values, abortions, promiscuous sexual behaviour that may lead to grave consequences, single motherhood, men guilty, organized attacks to religion. It is perhaps the greatest evil of our time. I honestly can't express in words how bad this is, my efforts can't barely give a insightful description.

The truth is feminism is what really turns women in sexual objects by distancing sex from its natural procreative purpose and turning sex into a merely recreative action to women, and undervaluing motherhood, child-bearing and marriage and turning women against men.

The very though that false rape accusations happen, and are not necessarily uncommon, is something outrageous to feminists, or that women are not victim of an evil patriarchal society. Your average self-identified feminist is far more extremist than your average person of any major religious sect. They are completely engaged in promoting infanticide and filicide, for them women have the right to get rid of children because they have to pursue a carreer and make as much money as men, and the fact they are naturally desgined to get pregnant is an obstacle. A lack of maternal instinct is for feminist eye a virtue for women, and the conformity to the natural human roles and valorization of traditional family is for them a moral flaw.

Feminists help broke families and thus incentivated directly people who will be born into deficient family structures and will be more likely to have depression, use drugs, engage in criminal activies, and to be less scholarized.

It's time we put a stop to all this, it is time we put an end to this harmful ideology that seeks to destroy the things that are most beatiful and true. Family, religiosity and human life.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

What do you classify as being Feminism exactly?
Women working?

[Also]

What do you classify as being Feminism exactly?
Women working?

Don't be exaggerated, just look at what so called feminists organization promotes and you'll understand. Read my first post again.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

But you see I highly enjoy sex as a recreational activity and wouldn't want to dissuade women from seeing it as such...
On this single basis alone I approve of it.

[Swearengen]

Feminism is just a natural consequence to the emasculation of men.

[Also]

Some feminist quotes:


By Andrea Dworkin:

- No woman needs intercourse; few women escape it.

- Men are distinguished from women by their commitment to do violence rather than to be victimized by it.

- Seduction is often difficult to distinguish from rape. In seduction, the rapist often bothers to buy a bottle of wine.


By Susan Brownmiller:

- Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear

By Marylin French:

- All men are rapists and that's all they are. They rape us with their eyes, their laws, and their codes.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Those just sound like quotes from women who never met a guy that wasnt a total loser lol.

[Also]

More feminists quotes:

Man’s discovery that his genitalia could serve as a weapon to generate fear must rank as one of the most important discoveries of prehistoric times, along with the use of fire, and the first crude stone ax. —Susan Brownmiller

Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that… freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage. —Sheila Cronan

And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual [male], it may be mainly a quantitative difference. —Susan Griffin

In a patriarchal society all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent. —Catherine MacKinnon

[SardiniaAtlantis]

I rather fancy this first quote "Man’s discovery that his genitalia could serve as a weapon to generate fear must rank as one of the most important discoveries of prehistoric times, along with the use of fire, and the first crude stone ax." —Susan Brownmiller Hahha

As for the other quotes you don't sincerely believe a considerably large women ascribe to these views do you'?

[Cleitus]

Its a Luciferian Doctrine.

[Also]

Feminists spread false genocidal ideologies, such that the urborn generated child is not a human being but merely an extension of her body, and therefore lacks natural rights which we apply to humans. They support the relativization of human life value on its early stages.

[Methusalem]

you are triracial. it can not get worse.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Lol

[Also]

I rather fancy this first quote "Man’s discovery that his genitalia could serve as a weapon to generate fear must rank as one of the most important discoveries of prehistoric times, along with the use of fire, and the first crude stone ax." —Susan Brownmiller Hahha

As for the other quotes you don't sincerely believe a considerably large women ascribe to these views do you'?

Even if they don't the feminist movement is being lead by people like this. Their influence is not to be underestimated.

[Also]

you are triracial. it can not get worse.

I'd rather be a triracial than a black guy on a european forum.

[Methusalem]

I'd rather be a triracial than a black guy on a european forum.

I am European and not black. while you are triracial from southamerica.

[BeerBaron]

I have no issue with women working or having equal rights as men, but feminist doctrine does destroy the traditional family structure.

A single mother is about the worst thing for a child that could happen, children of single mothers are more likely to be in the criminal justice system than others and are more likely to use drugs or get pregnant at an earlier age than children of the traditional family.

[Methusalem]

are you afraid of females or why do you want to fight 'evuuuul feminism'? I think you never tasted a real pussy.

[Also]

I am European and not black. while you are triracial from southamerica.

Okay, from now on I'll consider you an european and me a triracial. Now if you are not going to contribute to thread, please leave.

[robar]

I'd rather be a triracial than a black guy on a european forum.

Feminism must be destroyed. We start with a civil organisation here...This evil liberal ideology is like communism even worse...

[Proctor]

They're only destroying themselves with feminism.

[Also]

I have no issue with women working or having equal rights as men, but feminist doctrine does destroy the traditional family structure.

A single mother is about the worst thing for a child that could happen, children of single mothers are more likely to be in the criminal justice system than others and are more likely to use drugs or get pregnant at an earlier age than children of the traditional family.

Exactly, feminists promote single-motherhood like it is a normal thing and just as good as a family with a mother and a father. A society filled with single-mothers and divorce is never a good thing.

[Methusalem]

Okay, from now on I'll consider you an european and me a triracial. Now if you are not going to contribute to thread, please leave.

Here is my contribution:

http://t.qkme.me/3qstrt.jpg

[BeerBaron]

feminists like to trumpet this idea that everything with a penis is a rapist and use it as an excuse to act like sociopaths, when in reality rape is pretty rare and doesnt just happen to women. I don't know whats gotten into their heads but it seems like a bunch of grey matter.

[Also]

They're only destroying themselves with feminism.

They are destroying families, children and men's lives.

[Also]

feminists like to trumpet this idea that everything with a penis is a rapist and use it as an excuse to act like sociopaths, when in reality rape is pretty rare and doesnt just happen to women. I don't know whats gotten into their heads but it seems like a bunch of grey matter.

This is true, a lot of rapes are man-man homosexual.

Aditionally women can often get away with false rape accusations and destroy an innocent man's life. Or claim that she get raped because she regreted having sex with a Joe out there.

[Methusalem]

They are destroying families, children and men's lives.

so what do you want to do besides bitching on a forum?

[Also]

Identifying the problem and being aware of it is the first step.

[BeerBaron]

This is true, a lot of rapes are man-man homosexual.

Aditionally women can often get away with false rape accusations and destroy an innocent man's life. Or claim that she get raped because she regreted having sex with a Joe out there.

This is actually far more common than is thought of, at least in Canada and the US. Our laws here favor a woman to basically do whatever she wants, even when men are statistically as likely to be victims of domestic violence as women.

In Russia the cops wont even get involved, here they will toss the man in jail and fine him to the moon.

And god help you if you are a man and ever implicated in something like that because the feminist lawyers will crawl out of the woodwork after you.

[Also]

This is actually far more common than is thought of, at least in Canada and the US. Our laws here favor a woman to basically do whatever she wants, even when men are statistically as likely to be victims of domestic violence as women.

In Russia the cops wont even get involved, here they will toss the man in jail and fine him to the moon.

And god help you if you are a man and ever implicated in something like that because the feminist lawyers will crawl out of the woodwork after you.

Women can play with being the victim when they are not and many people will support her. Some often do that intentionally.

[Methusalem]

Identifying the problem and being aware of it is the first step.

everyone knows it you genius. political correctness is the problem.

[Also]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/678f73e7327392ae0fa75e363fdd3096/tumblr_mvi286MvMj1syitgfo1_500.jpg
http://31.media.tumblr.com/24722810e5e7c6465957581c61c917f0/tumblr_msv7ggz4TU1qf7o51o1_500.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/74a58f49c0f347c5ed3d8a5353697ca3/tumblr_msv7ggz4TU1qf7o51o3_1280.jpghttp://25.media.tumblr.com/a9961d2d0e6d3dff40635cce2254ae3f/tumblr_msv7ggz4TU1qf7o51o10_400.jpghttp://25.media.tumblr.com/14bc22eb98381a3522db73f6f90d425e/tumblr_msv7ggz4TU1qf7o51o5_500.jpghttp://24.media.tumblr.com/9701312d25418d00a44f67fc6435545f/tumblr_msv7ggz4TU1qf7o51o4_400.jpghttp://25.media.tumblr.com/cb17ab04795e7bce761faa65d56f5272/tumblr_mvi2f5s9mP1syitgfo1_1280.jpg

From: http://womenagainstfeminism.tumblr.com/

[Also]

Another feminist quote:

Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice. Rape, originally defined as abduction, became marriage by capture. Marriage meant the taking was to extend in time, to be not only use of but possession of, or ownership. - Andrea Dworkin

[Also]

http://enslaveher.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/295762_255784091140563_161487073903599_757113_9868 63732_n.jpg

http://changingwomen.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/251928_418142578238046_837336005_n.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VpTNVeLlk6k/Tqcrywzb8HI/AAAAAAAALVY/1DIv-TOw3Yc/s1600/anti%2Bfeminist%2Brobertson.jpg

http://31.media.tumblr.com/585b1903951179c1153fe2fda907a3c3/tumblr_mrm4a6D9Lz1syitgfo1_1280.png

[Methusalem]

http://changingwomen.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/251928_418142578238046_837336005_n.jpg




That guy is a pussy. It is his own fault.

[Also]

Feminist line of thinking:

http://solsticesatisfaction.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/prince-george.jpg

[Also]

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/a6/a6aa8ceed4155ed60af8a3b260f182ef4550751c8153e6c5a3 e15c5a146da3cb.jpg

[PolishAmerican190]

let us embrace it! Women are great!

[BeerBaron]

Interestingly enough, feminism removes everything feminine from women and replaces it with masculine behavior.

Look at your average university professor that teaches those studies.......complete stereotypical bull dike.

[Methusalem]

feminism is only a threat for western faggyfied males not for third worlders.

[Also]

let us embrace it! Women are great!

Women are great, but feminism seeks to destroy the feminime nature of women and turn then into something manly. Great women do not support modern feminists movements, very few things are greater than a lovely mother dedicated to her family and children.
Feminism is based of an eternal victimization of women on which wherever there is a difference between men and women in favour of men, men are the causing agents of it by hypothesis.

[Paluga]

Why fight ideas and ideologies ? Those are nothing, illusions. Laugh about them rather and the people who want to be something.

[BeerBaron]

Funny enough, the feminist movement in the US that spurred the western world to follow it, was funded by.... just guess, jews.

The movement also doubled the work force allowing companies access to more labour and the ability to drive down wages.

[Also]

Why fight ideas and ideologies ? Those are nothing, illusions. Laugh about them rather and the people who want to be something.

You are completely wrong, ideologies are reflected in actions. I don't want this world to be a feminist infested place where women are aborting their conceived children and they are throwing men and women against each other.

[BeerBaron]

I think the answer of how to fight it resides in the same way you deal with utter nonsense, and completely ignore it. People give to much credence to those idiotic women, ignore them, along with everyone else and it will burn itself out.

[Also]

I think the answer of how to fight it resides in the same way you deal with utter nonsense, and completely ignore it. People give to much credence to those idiotic women, ignore them, along with everyone else and it will burn itself out.

Feminists organizations are expanding their members and advocating their goals, we need something to counter them. Ignoring a threat is a very bad decision.

[Stanley]

I doubt how much the things you bemoan have strictly to do with feminism. Non-traditional families, abortion, areligiosity, etc. are just byproducts of the times and aren't inherently brought about by feminism itself.

Extreme feminists—the kind who hate all men and view the world entirely through the lens of male vs female—are actually few and far between anyway. Clearly the way of the world today requires a deeper explanation, and one that can't be distilled down to the results of a single movement.

I think you're just contra mundum and misdirecting your outrage at a random target.

[Paluga]

You are completely wrong, ideologies are reflected in actions. I don't want this world to be a feminist infested place where women are aborting their conceived children and they are throwing men and women against each other.

SO what give a fuck about everything and live your life and be happy with your family and so on what else. You can change nothing.

[robar]

Why fight ideas and ideologies ? Those are nothing, illusions. Laugh about them rather and the people who want to be something.

But they are dangerous....... just name a few communism, stalinism etc, they on paper were all for equality, but equality doesn't exist.

[BeerBaron]

Feminists organizations are expanding their members and advocating their goals, we need something to counter them. Ignoring a threat is a very bad decision.

They only gain traction because people pay attention to them. If everyone ignored them it would die out. The same way idiot Hollywood stars get attention for being train wrecks, when people stop paying attention to them you don't hear from them anymore.

But I do agree they are a massive problem

[Also]

I doubt how much the things you bemoan have strictly to do with feminism. Non-traditional families, abortion, areligiosity, etc. are just byproducts of the times and aren't inherently brought about by feminism itself.

Extreme feminists—the kind who hate all men and view the world entirely through the lens of male vs female—are actually few and far between anyway. Clearly the way of the world today requires a deeper explanation, and one that can't be distilled down to the results of a single movement.

I think you're just contra mundum and misdirecting your outrage at a random target.

Feminist organizations are very far from beng a random target. They are the ones trying to legalize abortion without restrictions in my country and many others, many of them are openly anti-christian and disrespectful, they are the ones promoting liberal destructive values.

If these things you mentioned are byproduct of our times, you can say the same about feminism. Feminism is a synthesis of all the rotten ideologies of our time.

[BeerBaron]

No real lady acts like trash and throws her body away to gain attention, I support the women that embrace their feminine qualities and pay no mind to idiots screaming in the corner.

[Also]

I am surprised only men have posted here so far.

[dude]

Fight feminism!! Celebrate feminism, they are at least working and paying taxes. Worry how to fight the non working single mom collecting welfare, and the douche bags who believe it is OK to impregnate women without any responsibility.

[Also]

Fight feminism!! Celebrate feminism, they are at least working and paying taxes. Worry how to fight the non working single mom collecting welfare, and the douche bags who believe it is OK to impregnate women without any responsibility.

This a false dillema, and very false at that. You can fight both things, you don't have to pick only one. I certainly don't support men taking no responsabilities for their children.

[robar]

Fight feminism!! Celebrate feminism, they are at least working and paying taxes. Worry how to fight the non working single mom collecting welfare, and the douche bags who believe it is OK to impregnate women without any responsibility.

These things are the product of feminism lol...:1127::1127:

[dude]

Allow equal opportunity. Earn as much as you produce.
if you can't lift 50 pounds, and it is required by your job, then you are not qualified.
When I was in the military we had 100 men working parties to carry heavy stuff, the guy who flaked out would get his ass beat. When women arrived, the 100 personal working party became 90 men and 10 women. After a bit there were 91 people working and 9 females sitting around bitching. If you said anything to them, it was sexual harassment.

[Also]

http://youtu.be/05ro6fcj6Ek

[Also]

http://youtu.be/G_sGn6PdmIo

[Mraz]

Send all the feminists to Compton City.

[MarkyMark]

How does one fight feminism? With the weapons of intellect and blood. Feminists, Atheists, Banks..... they have power and money in the west. But ass the great historian and philosopher Oswald Spengler said the only way to defeat money is with blood.

In other words, with force.

[robar]

Yeah if it continues like this I wonder when will be the first anti-feminist armed wing. :D

[Also]

It's nearly impossible to find a fine educated polite lady that is an advocating feminist. Women well-educated, that are fine with their feminine nature, from good-families do not feel represented by feminist organizations unless they have been brainwashed by extreme leftists.

[Skerdilaid]

By taking their pants down.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

It's nearly impossible to find a fine educated polite lady that is an advocating feminist. Women well-educated, that are fine with their feminine nature, from good-families do not feel represented by feminist organizations unless they have been brainwashed by extreme leftists.

So just stick with the good ones and ignore the ones you dont like.

[Also]

So just stick with the good ones and ignore the ones you dont like.

This is not a school club. These people have political agendas and we live in the same world. Plus, I can't just ignore and be indifferent to an organized movement that is promoting abortion world wide for moral reasons.

[Black Wolf]

True hardcore feminists are extremely delusional individuals.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

THats the idea its the only solution to your perceived dilemma if feminists are trying to take over the world as you see it then you'd have to convince men not to go for such women. How you do it and if its feasible is up to you. Honestly I dont even know why I'm entertaining this.

[robar]

So just stick with the good ones and ignore the ones you dont like.

Then you will be irresponsible toward the society, and that is plain wrong.And what about all th crazy laws they want to impose etc?What about the consequences of those, if they manage to convince the parliament?What about the economic loss what they do create by their lobby power?
So we should be blind?These are wealthy organisations, geting donations, from the most evil people from Earth like George Soros,they must be dealt with, before it is too late.

[MissProvocateur]

First off, I don't see anything wrong with women wanting equality when it comes to working. Second, yes, I do disagree with feminists, especially since they try to portray men as monsters and make the gap between sexes even wider, however, I do agree with certain things they say. Women aren't baby-making machines, some don't have children, and you know what? That's fine. It's their choice. And regarding abortion, if they really wanted to stop it, people should begin to educate others more on sex, and make more effective and accessible contraceptive methods, however, most "pro-life" people are often against these measures, guess what? Women like sex too. And I see no reason a woman shouldn't take care of herself. Those who are against abortion are usually those who base those laws on their religious laws, and honestly, politics and religion should never be associated with one another. I'd rather have a woman abort than bring an unwanted child to the world, who more likely will live as an unhappy orphan if given for adoption, or will starve. I do agree with family life, and I do want to get married and have children sometime in the future, but I don't see why that should be the only choice women should be given.

[portusaus]

Feminism is a filthy ideology, promotes the destruction of family unity and traditional values, abortions, promiscuous sexual behaviour that may lead to grave consequences, single motherhood, men guilty, organized attacks to religion. It is perhaps the greatest evil of our time. I honestly can't express in words how bad this is, my efforts can't barely give a insightful description.

The truth is feminism is what really turns women in sexual objects by distancing sex from its natural procreative purpose and turning sex into a merely recreative action to women, and undervaluing motherhood, child-bearing and marriage and turning women against men.

The very though that false rape accusations happen, and are not necessarily uncommon, is something outrageous to feminists, or that women are not victim of an evil patriarchal society. Your average self-identified feminist is far more extremist than your average person of any major religious sect. They are completely engaged in promoting infanticide and filicide, for them women have the right to get rid of children because they have to pursue a carreer and make as much money as men, and the fact they are naturally desgined to get pregnant is an obstacle. A lack of maternal instinct is for feminist eye a virtue for women, and the conformity to the natural human roles and valorization of traditional family is for them a moral flaw.

Feminists help broke families and thus incentivated directly people who will be born into deficient family structures and will be more likely to have depression, use drugs, engage in criminal activies, and to be less scholarized.

It's time we put a stop to all this, it is time we put an end to this harmful ideology that seeks to destroy the things that are most beatiful and true. Family, religiosity and human life.

What about abortion for instances of miscegenation? Is the race crisis not a more important issue than preserving structured morality? I largely agree with you, and recognize that a lot of feminists (not most) are misdirected and try to feminize society and/or destroy any concept of gender. But why are the things I've bolded so urgent and wrong, especially compared to everything else that is going on? As for drugs, it depends on the drug and the user's knowledge+responsibility whether it is beneficial or not for the individual.

To answer your question, I feel what needs to be done is as follows.

1. Revere the beauty of the most feminine and masculine, and the gracious duality nature has given us. Modern western man has become severely feminized by social conditioning and diet, while western women have not largely been affected. The result is a lot of lonely men that are too shy to approach women, and a lot of lonely women that never get approached by men. Obvious health changes need to take place as well, everybody should get enough exercise and keep mindful of the things they ingest.

2. Reform the way people think about planning for a child. In our modernized non-traditional society, the intensity of raising a child has been marginalized and most people don't properly care for their child's health and well-being. Corruption in medicine is partially to blame, but also dysgenics and the strangeness of modern life. I believe the growth of the average child nowadays is stunted to varying extents because of lacks in nutrition, and I can hardly imagine the consequences on mental development. This is also responsible for the population crisis and it contributes to the environmental crisis. The solutions are eugenics, educating people how to properly raise a child, and making the average person ask the question "Am I really fit enough to have a child?"

As you said, the traditional family structure should be revered as the ideal and people should be somewhat discouraged from having a child in the absence of this structure. I do believe adoption by same-sex couples etc. is okay if the child is okay with it beforehand and during.

3. End feminism by legally affirming the equality of sexes legislatively in all cases, both what properly directed feminists are currently fighting and the reverse discrimination against men consequent of various sexual harassment, etc. laws. These sorts of laws need to be reformed to both protect potential victims and not harbor the rights of one sex over the other.

4. Deport all foreign nationals to reduce the amount of potential rapists, instill cultural and national unity, discourage xenophilia, and a variety of other benefits.

[Baluarte]

Don't hire them. Never ask them out. Ignore them as much as you can and treat them spitefully once in a while.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

First off, I don't see anything wrong with women wanting equality when it comes to working. Second, yes, I do disagree with feminists, especially since they try to portray men as monsters and make the gap between sexes even wider, however, I do agree with certain things they say. Women aren't baby-making machines, some don't have children, and you know what? That's fine. It's their choice. And regarding abortion, if they really wanted to stop it, people should begin to educate others more on sex, and make more effective and accessible contraceptive methods, however, most "pro-life" people are often against these measures, guess what? Women like sex too. And I see no reason a woman shouldn't take care of herself. Those who are against abortion are usually those who base those laws on their religious laws, and honestly, politics and religion should never be associated with one another. I'd rather have a woman abort than bring an unwanted child to the world, who more likely will live as an unhappy orphan if given for adoption, or will starve. I do agree with family life, and I do want to get married and have children sometime in the future, but I don't see why that should be the only choice women should be given.

This is the problem in a nutshell how can you possibly expect people to see sex as a simply reproductive measure? What kind of couples or Marriages would that be? "Baby I'm really horny right now..." "Oh but We cant have another baby yet! Maybe wait five years ok?"

Preposterous.

[armenianbodyhair]

By ignoring it. When you ignore the movement the movement dies, when you fight it it just adds fuel to the fire.

[Unome]

Prostitution is the oldest profession in the world.

A woman will be paid $200 for one night of sex, between $1000-2000 if she is beautiful. So if a beautiful woman has sex ten times in a couple weeks then this is $20000. That is more money than most people make, across the world, in a year. That is a couple weeks in exchange for a whole year of work.

So for women to demand 'feminism', "equal pay for equal work", is one of the stupidest movements in human history. Women already have an advantage. This is something all feminists need to ignore, to justify their ideology. They need to pretend that sex doesn't exist, or, sex doesn't have intrinsic value, but it does. Men are far more willing to pay women for sex than women are willing to pay men for sex. Because females have the sexual power.

So if you grant feminists their case then what is the result?

You have a woman working $20000 a year and a man working $20000. But the woman still has her sexual value while the man does not.

So "equal pay" is a lie, a joke, a farce. The woman has a hidden value, which men do not. Her sex has value. So she has the hidden value plus her earnings. This puts her ahead of men. And Western civilization slowly realizes this fact. As women make "more money", they double or triple the value of sex. So "gender equality" actually becomes unequal.

It is equal when a woman does not work, while a man does work for $20000 a year.

So when you add sex + work, then the inequality is too obvious. And everybody knows this. Feminism must pretend like this difference doesn't exist (they argue: "sex has no intrinsic value" or "gender is a social construct"). But this is an obvious lie. Feminism mostly is spearheaded by below-average looking women (ugly or less beautiful), misandrists (man haters who hate that they were lied to, and got "pumped-and-dumped"), and also politickal groups which coincide with liberalism or marxism, in order to destroy traditional families and social norms of countries.

Feminism will kill itself off; since these women will not create stable (traditional) families. Instead they will continue to create family instability, to their own detriment. This involves: artificial insemination, homosexual coupling, adopting many children, and supporting all other means of "alternative choices of reproduction".

Feminists are against traditional, normal heterosexuality (man & woman monogamous marriage). Feminists do not want a woman to "choose" the traditional, normal lifestyle.


Main point:

If you argue against a feminist, and she admits that sex has intrinsic value, then the feminist must then justify why she believes "equal pay" is necessary based on gender, while females already have that intrinsic value and advantage (sex) over men.

[Kazimiera]

How does one fight feminism?

You make it sound like you're going to war against a million soldiers. :picard1:

Feminism has done a lot of good for women across the world as far as voting rights go, employment and equal salaries.

Then you get the hardcore crazies who are as much a threat to society as homosexual men are to human reproduction. There aren't enough to have a major impact on anything. Most people don't know what it entails, nor do they care.

[robar]

First off, I don't see anything wrong with women wanting equality when it comes to working. Second, yes, I do disagree with feminists, especially since they try to portray men as monsters and make the gap between sexes even wider, however, I do agree with certain things they say. Women aren't baby-making machines, some don't have children, and you know what? That's fine. It's their choice. And regarding abortion, if they really wanted to stop it, people should begin to educate others more on sex, and make more effective and accessible contraceptive methods, however, most "pro-life" people are often against these measures, guess what? Women like sex too. And I see no reason a woman shouldn't take care of herself. Those who are against abortion are usually those who base those laws on their religious laws, and honestly, politics and religion should never be associated with one another. I'd rather have a woman abort than bring an unwanted child to the world, who more likely will live as an unhappy orphan if given for adoption, or will starve. I do agree with family life, and I do want to get married and have children sometime in the future, but I don't see why that should be the only choice women should be given.


Yes on a moral basis this sounds good , however, after they made it, this gender role reversal, to fertility rate dropped, and this resulted in all kind of foreign element , in western Europe for example the muslims,blacks etc so this kind of thinking lead to a serf destroying way.Over time the superior culture Islam will take over the inferior one,

This whole stuff only makes sense in the moral level in the rational level the whole thing is suicide, especially if there is no other incentives to have those childs , and add to this multiculturalism, and overall you end up with national suicide.

Gender role reversal combined with multiculturalism is suicide.:)

[Unome]

What kind of people "want to work" in the first place, and in which jobs?

Do women demand "equal opportunity" and "equal pay" for sewage cleaning? No, they don't, because feminism is about hypocrisy, not ideology.

It's about money and sex. And it's a competition to own both.

[GrebluBro]

I hate feminists.

[Fear Fiain]

we will defeat it with a three pronged approach: radical embrace of the apostolic faith as the only source of truth and the only place any self respecting woman gets her ideas about men; shaming and mocking feminism, and the effective use of guerrila warfare against cultural marxists.

[KidMulat]

Some of you guys sound one step away from some Marc Lèpine type stunt :picard1:

[robar]

Some of you guys sound one step away from some Marc Lèpine type stunt :picard1:

Usanian liberal :picard1::picard2:, the most ridiculous beast on earth

[Herbalist]

Stop engaging in behaviour that leads women to feminism. I know women who had no interest in feminism until bad things happened to them at the hands of insecure "men": stalking, harassment, etc.

[Furnace]

It is true that men at first have problems in adjusting to the new society and family models. Feminism is not going away, it is here to stay. But you will adjust. Good luck.

Well, time will tell, but since most feminists won't have any children they will kill their own ideology slowly.

[KidMulat]

Usanian liberal :picard1::picard2:, the most ridiculous beast on earth

Not as ridiculous as a whole bunch of grown ass men on the Internet trying to "fight" feminism which really is helping women find their voice and say "Fuck that" to a lot of things in society they aren't happy with.

[DarkSecret]

Before blaming feminism we should consider how to stop Misogyny in the world... Feminism is a reaction so we should remove the catalyzers...

[Herbalist]

Before blaming feminism we should consider how to stop Misogyny in the world... Feminism is a reaction so we should remove the catalyzers...

That's what I posted here:


Stop engaging in behaviour that leads women to feminism. I know women who had no interest in feminism until bad things happened to them at the hands of insecure "men": stalking, harassment, etc.

[DarkSecret]

That's what I posted here:

Sorry I haven't read the whole thread if you think I stole your idea I am so sorry..

[robar]

Not as ridiculous as a whole bunch of grown ass men on the Internet trying to "fight" feminism which really is helping women find their voice and say "Fuck that" to a lot of things in society they aren't happy with.

:1127::1127::1127:
First of all in what way feminazism what feminism is helping women?It destroys them, by the way in what way feminists dare to speak in the name of women?
Do you realise that if women really want they can set up a political party and gain the seats, etc, playing by civil organisations and etc, it is simply making those organisations an inside enemy......
Oh but whatever you americans sometimes are just like plain ignorant:dancing:

[robar]

It is true that men at first have problems in adjusting to the new society and family models. Feminism is not going away, it is here to stay. But you will adjust. Good luck.

Indeed :rotfl:
Just one question how will be feminism and Sharia law in WE will be comparable:) The revolution eats its children....:)

[albosomething]

I hate pretty much everything that these fucking liberals promote, not all changes are good.

Sooner rather than later IMO christians and muslims as fucked up as it may seem will fight against fucked up things like feminism and other liberals hippie bullshit

[KidMulat]

:1127::1127::1127:
First of all in what way feminazism what feminism is helping women?It destroys them, by the way in what way feminists dare to speak in the name of women?
Do you realise that if women really want they can set up a political party and gain the seats, etc, playing by civil organisations and etc, it is simply making those organisations an inside enemy......
Oh but whatever you americans sometimes are just like plain ignorant:dancing:

Feminism is a global phenomenon, other than Dianic sets feminism does not endorse rigidity to the extreme you talk about. Politically Feminism runs the gamut and cannot be quantified with one or even a dozen leaders of the movement. Its ignorant to assume you know all about feminism to begin with.

[robar]

Feminism is a global phenomenon, other than Dianic sets feminism does not endorse rigidity to the extreme you talk about. Politically Feminism runs the gamut and cannot be quantified with one or even a dozen leaders of the movement. Its ignorant to assume you know all about feminism to begin with.

The base ideology is harmfull, by the way all action has a reaction, feminism main goal is to create division within the society.:)
Once that is succesfull the powergrab starts....

[Also]

It is true that men at first have problems in adjusting to the new society and family models. Feminism is not going away, it is here to stay. But you will adjust. Good luck.

Feminism is a visceral lie, lies can't last forever. Feminism is dehumanizating and makes women less happy.

[robar]

Feminism is a visceral lie, lies can't last forever. Feminism is dehumanizating and makes women less happy.

Bingo!:thumb001:

[Baluarte]

I hate pretty much everything that these fucking liberals promote, not all changes are good.

Sooner rather than later IMO christians and muslims as fucked up as it may seem will fight against fucked up things like feminism and other liberals hippie bullshit

Actually I agree on this point.
I'm less annoyed by a woman wearing an Islamic veil than a slut in the sidewalk wearing only a G string.

There's a reason why people that I deeply respect like Alexander Dugin are contacting open minded wise muslim scholars like Sheikh Imran Hossein, in order to promote understanding and prepare for the onslaught. the postmodern world

[albosomething]

Feminism is a visceral lie, lies can't last forever. Feminism is dehumanizating and makes women less happy.

what he said.

[Stanley]

Feminism is dehumanizating and makes women less happy.

Equal rights make them less happy?

[Herr Abubu]

Refute feminist theory on both a rational and empirical basis, show the malicious motives of feminists and the feminist movement and the detrimental effects feminism has on society, and show that there are better alternatives.


Stop engaging in behaviour that leads white people to hate blacks. I know white people who had no interest in white supremacy until bad things happened to them at the hands of unruly blacks: rape, theft, etc.

See what I did there? Why blame gynocentrism on the behaviours of a minority of men?

[albosomething]

Equal rights make them less happy?

:picard1::picard1::picard1:

[Stanley]

:picard1::picard1::picard1:

Women should have less rights then? :picard1::picard1::picard1::picard1::picard1::pica rd1:

Not all feminism is the fringe left-wing lunacy that usually gets the press these days. It actually cured what were some social ills of the past. Or would you really rather have lived 200 years ago? Maybe you would, but I'm afraid these things are ingrained in the fabric of life today, which gets back to my first post: It's not feminism (whatever exactly is even meant by that) you should be presuming to fight, but modernity in general.

[robar]

Equal rights make them less happy?

:picard2:
Total equality made us less hapi in the other side of the iron curtain:)
Seriously sometimes you do not have to buy the advertising, and see what the real product is.:)

[robar]

Women should have less rights then? :picard1::picard1::picard1::picard1::picard1::pica rd1:

Not all feminism is the fringe left-wing lunacy that usually gets the press these days. It actually cured what were some social ills of the past. Or would you really rather have lived 200 years ago? Maybe you would, but I'm afraid these things are ingrained in the fabric of life today, which gets back to my first post: It's not feminism you should be presuming to fight, but modernity in general.

Westerners are seriously especially americans indoctrinated to an ideology

[albosomething]

Women should have less rights then? :picard1::picard1::picard1::picard1::picard1::pica rd1:

Not all feminism is the fringe left-wing lunacy that usually gets the press these days. It actually cured what were some social ills of the past. Or would you really rather have lived 200 years ago? Maybe you would, but I'm afraid these things are ingrained in the fabric of life today, which gets back to my first post: It's not feminism (whatever exactly is even meant by that) you should be presuming to fight, but modernity in general.

women are softer by nature, throughout history the man has been the provider, the one who protects his woman, what fucking equality, feminists are lesbians in denial or some other fucked up shit

[tamilgangster]

Feminists are a threat to my sexlife with my hand, I dont give 2 fucks if feminists want jobs, equality and whatnot, but the moment they try take away my right to porn and hookers, theve gone too far. Feminism is the biggest cock blocker there is

[Hoxhaism]

You don't fight feminism because degrading women just to show how much of a man you are is really demasculinating and sad you need patriarchy just to prove how much of a man you are, because in real life your probably a sad, insecure pathetic human being no woman in his life ever wanted, desired or even thought about.

Male chauvinists are like ghosts to the females in their lives for the reasons above, and being a sexist pig isnt helping either.

[Hoxhaism]

women are softer by nature throughout history the man has been the provider, the one who protects his woman, what fucking equality, feminists are lesbians in denial or some other fucked up shit

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2665908/Big-boys-dont-cry-BUT-deep-theyre-emotional-women.html

Men, however, don't express their emotions as much because our society teaches men that they can't be emotional because it's not "masculine" but "feminine", which i find bullshit.

[albosomething]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2665908/Big-boys-dont-cry-BUT-deep-theyre-emotional-women.html

Men, however, don't express their emotions as much because our society teaches men that they can't be emotional because it's not "masculine" but "feminine", which i find bullshit.

yeah, obviously our lack of tears is what made us kill animals. I m eant softer by nature, physical.

[Hoxhaism]

yeah, obviously our lack of tears is what made us kill animals. I m eant softer by nature, physical.

No one hunts animals or lives in mud huts nowdays, your argument is invalid.

[Herr Abubu]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2665908/Big-boys-dont-cry-BUT-deep-theyre-emotional-women.html

Men, however, don't express their emotions as much because our society teaches men that they can't be emotional because it's not "masculine" but "feminine", which i find bullshit.

You're making the wrong conclusions. To have emotions doesn't mean you have to show them. We were told to be effeminate faggots in school and I still ended up showing little emotion outwardly unless it's anger.

[Casandrinos]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2665908/Big-boys-dont-cry-BUT-deep-theyre-emotional-women.html

Men, however, don't express their emotions as much because our society teaches men that they can't be emotional because it's not "masculine" but "feminine", which i find bullshit.

Emotion is better than being a numb bitch and it doesn't mean it can't be controllable.

If anything is a big regulator in acheiving things.

[Hoxhaism]

You're making the wrong conclusions. To have emotions doesn't mean you have to show them. We were told to be effeminate faggots in school and I still ended up showing little emotion outwardly unless it's anger.

But by society and everyday life you're taught to not show emotions because you are a male, it is so called "de-masculating" which is ironic because being more emotional is a male trait.

This goes to show that all the habits we were taught from a young age based on our gender isn't "nature".
No child comes out and automatically knows how to work or cook, we were taught so from a young age that this is normal only because of the way we born.
Women and men ARE born equal, but society has taught us differently.

[Hoxhaism]

Emotion is better than being a numb bitch and it doesn't mean it can't be controllable.

If anything is a big regulator in acheiving things.

I never said i was against emotion.
And my point was usually misogynists use women being too emotional as an excuse as to why we are "inequal", but it turns out men are more emotional but just pressured by society to not show it.

[Casandrinos]

I never said i was against emotion.
And my point was usually misogynists use women being too emotional as an excuse as to why we are "inequal", but it turns out men are more emotional but just pressured by society to not show it.

Women are too expressive to their emotions. That makes them appear helpless and weak. This is why they are repulsed by whinny men and call them bitchy. Because they act like women.

If you follow the same aspie ''logic'' of expressing every little ''feel'' , you should protest for men not to hide their boners in public.

Some things are better not to be shown.

[Hithaeglir]

Hoxhaism is a feisty lil girl ;)

[Hoxhaism]

Women are too expressive to their emotions. That makes them appear helpless and weak. This is why they are repulsed by whinny men and call them bitchy. Because they act like women.

If you follow the same aspie ''logic'' of expressing every little ''feel'' , you should protest for men not to hide their boners in public.

Some things are better not to be shown.

MEN ARE PROVEN TO BE MORE EMOTIONAL.
Society is just pressuring men to not show it, therefore women are not in any way emotionally weaker than men (if not the opposite actually).

If society STOPS pressuring men to not show emotion, your basically calling men helpless and weak.

[Herr Abubu]

But by society and everyday life you're taught to not show emotions because you are a male, it is so called "de-masculating" which is ironic because being more emotional is a male trait.

Men have always been recognized as more passionate than women since time immemorial. If you had read more than the dailymail you would have known. The difference is we men hide and control our emotions because we know that what we feel isn't important.


This goes to show that all the habits we were taught from a young age based on our gender isn't "nature".
No child comes out and automatically knows how to work or cook, we were taught so from a young age that this is normal only because of the way we born.
Women and men ARE born equal, but society has taught us differently.

It takes an absurd leap in reason to make that conclusion.

We are born with a nature and it shows in what we do and who we are. A society that doesn't even consider the purpose of a person and his qualities, because of the lie that we're all the same, is antilogos, anarchical.

The fact that society ended up in a certain way with men and women having different roles is enough evidence to anyone fair-minded and honest to himself that men and women are inherently different.

[Hoxhaism]

Men have always been recognized as more passionate than women since time immemorial. If you had read more than the dailymail you would have known. The difference is we men hide and control our emotions because we know that what we feel isn't important.

No, it's society brainwashing you to not show your emotions because it isn't manly to cry or be upset.
it is a serious issue and needs to be resolved.




It takes an absurd leap in reason to make that conclusion.

it certainly isn't.
A dog behaves the way they were raised, the same applies to humans.

No gender is superior or less capable than the other, it's just weak minded men like you brainwashed by machoism.


We are born with a nature and it shows in what we do and who we are. A society that doesn't even consider the purpose of a person and his qualities, because of the lie that we're all the same, is antilogos, anarchical.

Read above.


The fact that society ended up in a certain way with men and women having different roles is enough evidence to anyone fair-minded and honest to himself that men and women are inherently different.

It isn't human nature but a programme set up by our surroundings.
If men were born to dominate, matriarchies wouldn't also exist.

http://m.mentalfloss.com/article.php?id=31274

[Casandrinos]

MEN ARE PROVEN TO BE MORE EMOTIONAL.
Society is just pressuring men to not show it, therefore women are not in any way emotionally weaker than men (if not the opposite actually).

If society STOPS pressuring men to not show emotion, your basically calling men helpless and weak.

lmao

Men being more emotional actually makes them superior, stronger.

Look at toddlers. They cry so easily and whine over little things. Does that makes them emotional? Do they feel love, affection, hatred as a grown up does?

Having a more receptive consiousness is a sign of maturity. It's a sign that you aren't mentally stunted to superficial ''feels''. You only perceive it as a weakness because you are mentally immature. Because it stunts you, instead of revealing you truths.

and ofc people with high sensitivity won't show it as easy.

1) Tards won't understand them

2) Patience cures pain and lowers illogical excitement.

[Hoxhaism]

lmao

Men being more emotional actually makes them superior, stronger.

Look at toddlers. They cry so easily and whine over little things. Does that makes them emotional? Do they feel love, affection, hatred as a grown up does?

Having a more receptive consiousness is a sign of maturity. It's a sign that you aren't mentally stunted to superficial ''feels''. You only perceive it as a weakness because you are mentally immature. Because it stunts you, instead of revealing you truths.

and ofc people with high sensitivity won't show it as easy.

1) Tards won't understand them

2) Patience cures pain and lowers illogical excitement.

"If society STOPS pressuring men to not show emotion, your basically calling men helpless and weak."

Did you decide to scroll past that? It's because of society men are told not to express feelings, also in your previous post you did state that emotion makes you helpless and weak, i cant argue with a person who cant even make up his own mind.

[Nurzat]

How do we fight feminism?

we bitch-slap feminists

[Hoxhaism]

we bitch-slap feminists

this is better

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[War Chef]

If girls are feeling inadequate and drawn into movements like feminism, there is a serious self-esteem problem needs to be addressed at the root, not some surface level stuff

Why do you feel inferior hoaxhism?

[Casandrinos]

"If society STOPS pressuring men to not show emotion, your basically calling men helpless and weak."

Did you decide to scroll past that? It's because of society men are told not to express feelings, also in your previous post you did state that emotion makes you helpless and weak, i cant argue with a person who cant even make up his own mind.

I said expressing and overemphasizing on your emotions makes you helpless and weak.

goddamn you are stupid.

Also none pressures men to not show emotion. My mother wanted to make me a bitch from day one, my teachers said i should be more expressive and so did all women i met. It didn't change my character.

And its not about men only. Most clever women i met behaved that way. Because a person of virtue doesn't whine about his instictive feels, you mentally deranged nigger.

[Hoxhaism]

Why do you feel inferior hoaxhism?

I dont feel any sort of inferiority, and i am a feminist because i believe in gender equality.

[Casandrinos]

If girls are feeling inadequate and drawn into movements like feminism, there is a serious self-esteem problem needs to be addressed at the root, not some surface level stuff

Why do you feel inferior hoaxhism?

she got pumped and dumped

Her retarded Negro brain translated this as a reason to be depressed and suicidal, instead of giving her a reason to philosophize a thing about modern dating and all those equality bs.

[Hoxhaism]

I said expressing and overemphasizing on your emotions makes you helpless and weak.

goddamn you are stupid.

Also none pressures men to not show emotion. My mother wanted to make me a bitch from day one, my teachers said i should be more expressive and so did all women i met. It didn't change my character.

And its not about men only. Most clever women i met behaved that way. Because a person of virtue doesn't whine about his instictive feels, you mentally deranged nigger.

you were taught by society and your so called machoism.

And it's pointless to argue with a fully grown man who throws in "mentally deranged nigger" in their arguments to expose something about the person who holds an opposing view, but the truth is it actually makes you look not only mentally deranged but also proving my point on how men are emotional.

You pride yourself on not expressing any emotion, yet here you are, not being able to seperate civil discussions from emotion.

[Antimage]

Feminism at its beginning(and for some time, after that) made sense. The feminism we have today is a destructive garbage.

[Nurzat]

I dont feel any sort of inferiority, and i am a feminist because i believe in gender equality.

go hand-wash your man's underwear in the sink with cold water for that

[Hoxhaism]

she got pumped and dumped

Her retarded Negro brain translated this as a reason to be depressed and suicidal, instead of giving her a reason to philosophize a thing about modern dating and all those equality bs.

You are no person to speak for me, i have a voice and already answered his retarded question.

[War Chef]

I dont feel any sort of inferiority, and i am a feminist because i believe in gender equality.

In order to hate patriarchy, you must view it as something above you that's oppressing you. Someone on top of the hill that needs to be de-throned. Your overlord.

Admit, you feel inadequate, inferior and insecure all at once.

Patriarchy got your mind. It has already won. Might as well bow down.

[Hoxhaism]

go hand-wash your man's underwear in the sink with cold water for that

The only time i will return to the kitchen is to grab a kitchen knife and gut your organs out and sell them to the albanian mafia.

[Hoxhaism]

In order to hate patriarchy, you must view it as something above you that's oppressing you. Someone on top of the hill that needs to be de-throned. Your overlord.

Admit, you feel inadequate, inferior and insecure all at once.

Patriarchy got your mind. It has already won. Bow down.

Patriarchists treat women as inferiors and this is exactly what im fighting against.
I am not inadequate, inferior or insecure.

[Casandrinos]

you were taught by society and your so called machoism.

And it's pointless to argue with a fully grown man who throws in "mentally deranged nigger" in their arguments to expose something about the person who holds an opposing view, but the truth is it actually makes you look not only mentally deranged but also proving my point on how men are emotional.

You pride yourself on not expressing any emotion, yet here you are, not being able to seperate civil discussions from emotion.

Im able to make reason and throw insults simultaniously. That validates the insulting more , since its backed up.

If you got triggered , it's your monkey-like emotions that are responisble for.

[Hoxhaism]

Feminism at its beginning(and for some time, after that) made sense. The feminism we have today is a destructive garbage.

no it is not.

[Hoxhaism]

Im able to make reason and throw insults simultaniously. That validates the insulting more , since its backed up.

No, i'm giving a civil argument and you just so happen to not be able to seperate your emotions instead of returning a civil response back, hmm..


If you got triggered , it's your monkey-like emotions that are responisble for.

Here it goes again, proving my point once more.

[Hithaeglir]

Hoxhaism for next Albanian Prez

[Antimage]

no it is not.


Another feminist quote:

Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice. Rape, originally defined as abduction, became marriage by capture. Marriage meant the taking was to extend in time, to be not only use of but possession of, or ownership. - Andrea Dworkin


feminists like to trumpet this idea that everything with a penis is a rapist and use it as an excuse to act like sociopaths, when in reality rape is pretty rare and doesnt just happen to women. I don't know whats gotten into their heads but it seems like a bunch of grey matter.


Exactly, feminists promote single-motherhood like it is a normal thing and just as good as a family with a mother and a father. A society filled with single-mothers and divorce is never a good thing.


I have no issue with women working or having equal rights as men, but feminist doctrine does destroy the traditional family structure.

A single mother is about the worst thing for a child that could happen, children of single mothers are more likely to be in the criminal justice system than others and are more likely to use drugs or get pregnant at an earlier age than children of the traditional family.


Feminists spread false genocidal ideologies, such that the urborn generated child is not a human being but merely an extension of her body, and therefore lacks natural rights which we apply to humans. They support the relativization of human life value on its early stages.


More feminists quotes:

Man’s discovery that his genitalia could serve as a weapon to generate fear must rank as one of the most important discoveries of prehistoric times, along with the use of fire, and the first crude stone ax. —Susan Brownmiller

Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that… freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage. —Sheila Cronan

And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual [male], it may be mainly a quantitative difference. —Susan Griffin

In a patriarchal society all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent. —Catherine MacKinnon


Some feminist quotes:


By Andrea Dworkin:

- No woman needs intercourse; few women escape it.

- Men are distinguished from women by their commitment to do violence rather than to be victimized by it.

- Seduction is often difficult to distinguish from rape. In seduction, the rapist often bothers to buy a bottle of wine.


By Susan Brownmiller:

- Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear

By Marylin French:

- All men are rapists and that's all they are. They rape us with their eyes, their laws, and their codes.

[Hoxhaism]

...

Feminist does not equal to feminazi.

Learn the difference.

[Herr Abubu]

No, it's society brainwashing you to not show your emotions because it isn't manly to cry or be upset.
it is a serious issue and needs to be resolved.

No, no, no. You clearly don't understand what goes inside men's heads at all. Quite common for women these days not to get it. Another member was wise to point out that it requires a woman to be intelligent to understand man's psychology.


it certainly isn't.
A dog behaves the way they were raised, the same applies to humans.

No gender is superior or less capable than the other, it's just weak minded men like you brainwashed by machoism.

What you refer to, behaviorism, was experimented with in the middle of the 20th century, and it failed miserably. What your claim stands on is an article on a study misinterpreted by yourself and egalitarian dogmatism.

People can't be programmed. They have a certain innate nature. You'll understand if you get children. You might not rear them significantly different, but they'll have their own unique personalities.


It isn't human nature but a programme set up by our surroundings.
If men were born to dominate, matriarchies wouldn't also exist.

http://m.mentalfloss.com/article.php?id=31274

Look at human history and look at how pitiful the historical record of matriarchies is. These six pitiful matriarchies prove my point quite well. I hope you will manage to understand that.

[Herr Abubu]

Man’s discovery that his genitalia could serve as a weapon to generate fear must rank as one of the most important discoveries of prehistoric times, along with the use of fire, and the first crude stone ax. —Susan Brownmiller


:bowlol:

[Casandrinos]

No, i'm giving a civil argument and you just so happen to not be able to seperate your emotions instead of returning a civil response back, hmm..


Here it goes again, proving my point once more.


My response is more civil than your monkey-tier reasoning.

An ''insult'' is a non-backed up adhominem. My ''insulting'' is nothing like that , it explains why you are the things i said so. It can't be classified as ''insulting'' since it isn't provoked by a temper tantrum but from a structured thought.

If i randomly start calling you a dumbass , that would be an insult. If i said so after reading your threads, that makes it a valid conclusion.

[Enflamme]

http://choualbox.com/Img_generateur/1482690370451.jpg
https://i.imgflip.com/1gkyjw.jpg

[Charles Bronson]

Behead them?

[Nurzat]

The only time i will return to the kitchen is to grab a kitchen knife and gut your organs out and sell them to the albanian mafia.

Albanian mafia, lol, don't make me laugh. all you smelly-feet Albanians and Vlachs are able to do is herd sheep

[War Chef]

I am not inadequate, inferior or insecure.

For you to point that out implies there was something making you feel inadequate, inferior and insecure to begin with.

If you really felt adequate, equal and secure then this whole argument wouldn't exist.

My point is, if you feel inferior to something (patriarchy?) than you most definitely are.

[War Chef]

“Man can never know the loneliness a woman knows. Man lies in the woman's womb only to gather strength, he nourishes himself from this fusion, and then he rises and goes into the world, into his work, into battle, into art. He is not lonely. He is busy. The memory of the swim in amniotic fluid gives him energy, completion. Woman may be busy too, but she feels empty. Sensuality for her is not only a wave of pleasure in which she is bathed, and a charge of electric joy at contact with another. When man lies in her womb, she is fulfilled, each act of love a taking of man within her, an act of birth and rebirth, of child rearing and man bearing. Man lies in her womb and is reborn each time anew with a desire to act, to be. But for woman, the climax is not in the birth, but in the moment man rests inside of her.”

-Anaïs Nin

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[Demon Revival]

But you see I highly enjoy sex as a recreational activity and wouldn't want to dissuade women from seeing it as such...
On this single basis alone I approve of it.

Another limpwrist who doesn't understand sexual dynamics between men and women are different.

This feels like high-school all-over again.

[War Chef]

Did you know, in utero we were all female, then we got a pulse of testosterone which dictated our gender. Hence why us guys have nipples that serve no purpose.

Girl Power!

Sincerely,
beta cuck

[Ultra]

feminism is only a threat for western faggyfied males not for third worlders.
True that.

[War Chef]

Interestingly enough, feminism removes everything feminine from women and replaces it with masculine behavior.

Look at your average university professor that teaches those studies.......complete stereotypical bull dike.

Wow, for once I agree with you on something.

[MsSPF]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwLusGU9go0

:ner-ner0::Bondage1:

[Demon Revival]

True that.

Neither you nor that emaciated german-ethiopian niglet have truly ever visited a third world nation. I remind you that in most third world countries, women can still vote and voice their stupid opinions, as well as using the full support of the system to take the kids hostage.

[War Chef]

.......


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[MsSPF]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKFHZuCvvS4&t=845s

freaking disturbing

[Ultra]

Neither you nor that emaciated german-ethiopian niglet have truly ever visited a third world nation. I remind you that in most third world countries, women can still vote and voice their stupid opinions, as well as using the full support of the system to take the kids hostage.
But they are not feminist to the point that it threatens their existance at least. In general third worlders don't give a fuck about feminist bullshit.

[Demon Revival]

But they are not feminist to the point that it threatens their existance at least. In general third worlders don't give a fuck about feminist bullshit.

You mean third world as in deep Africa and Saudi Arabia, or third world as in Ukraine, Poland, Argentina, Mexico?

[ÁGUIA]

Both nowadays feminists ( they seem to come in waves like the ocean) and anti-feminists are more or less the same, they lost track of what is important to fight for imo.

Nonetheless is always funny to read some comments on the topic around here.

[Kazimiera]

Feminism at its beginning(and for some time, after that) made sense. The feminism we have today is a destructive garbage.

I see it the same way.

The first wave of feminism was about suffrage and women's rights to vote and own property. These are things we take for granted today, forgetting that many women were imprisoned so that we can have these rights today.

The second wave focused on women's reproductive and sexual rights, domestic abuse, divorce and custody laws. Until that time a battered woman beaten half to death by her husband was not allowed to a divorce and custody of her children UNLESS she endure even more humiliation by being ostracised by the community. Options for a woman in those circumstances were limited.

What this current "feminism" is, I have no idea. I see plenty of noise on the internet but not much action anywhere else. Just like all the limp Animal Rights Activists on Facebook, all you need to do is "like" a page, sign a petition and have "I am a feminist" as your profile picture.

Yes, I am a woman. Yes, I appreciate what the suffragettes and the second wavers did for us. I do not, however, need a bunch of wannabe-punk pink-haired 16 year-olds screaming "Patriarchy! Sexism!" on the internet all day long. They are not doing anything for me other than wasting my bandwidth. Yes, there is sexism and there will always be, but it is not this constant threat looming over you like Death with the scepter. Unlike the internet loud-mouths would like us to believe, most people are normal, ordinary citizens who go about their daily lives in normal and ordinary ways.

I was molested and raped as a child. But you know what? I survived. And whilst all should be done to 1.) prevent these things from happening and 2.) seeing that perpetrators get punished NOT every man out these is a budding rapist.

If they want to do something for their fellows, they can get ass off the internet and volunteer to raise money for shelters for abused women. Go into careers such as nursing and social work where they can make a real difference over the course of a lifetime (as opposed to liking and sharing posts on facebook). If you are passionate about helping people, make a life's work of it and go into a career which will actually help the people you want to. It's up to you whether you want to be active in child custody cases, specialise in forensic nursing for rape cases, do health education for sex workers or do public health focusing on women's health. You can, of course, be less selective and just help anyone who comes your way. ;)

[RenaRyuguu]

All men are bad tis true in terms of one night stands using women

[Celestia]

Just ignore them. They make it pretty clear who they are.

[RenaRyuguu]

But then those women also want one night stands so I'm sure some people are still nice

[Ranger0075]

Accepting Allah and Sharia. There is no feminism in true Islam World.

[Babak]

These "feminists" are actually neo-feminists. Many of them dont have a clue about what they're talking about. If anything, im more of a feminist than these so called feminists.

[Celestia]

All men are bad tis true in terms of one night stands using women

You’re just a spring chicken.
I had that same mentality when I was your age.
Guys usually mature when they get older.. (usually)
Don’t lose all hope

[Ranger0075]

All those materialistic christian western societies are degenerated, not all men or women. There are many, many decent people in Muslim countries. The one night culture is basically non-existent. It's unacceptable.

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[Hexachordia]

I do not understand either feminism or patriachism, so tiresome. But anywhere it is the men should take the utmost responsibility, when you look at feminists puppetized on the parades, you should also notice many young people men and women alike are also puppetized in various situations. Whatever, feminism is never a priority, but a side-effect of some greater issues, or not really an issue at all to be short.

[RenaRyuguu]

You’re just a spring chicken.
I had that same mentality when I was your age.
Guys usually mature when they get older.. (usually)
Don’t lose all hope

30 is ideal age for a dude

[calxpal]

I think some possible, but not certain ways to combat it are holding women to the same standard of accountability for their actions, I also believe men need to stop doing extra favors for pretty women and thus giving attractive women entitlement and undeserved power (and I believe this also encourages promiscuity). I also believe ignoring them and not giving feminists attention can help a ton, also calling out feminists when they act hypocritical (which I have seen too many times now).

What I think is a shame though is I think old school feminism had good principles, now it has been completely corrupted. I think modern feminism has started to harm women more than do good.

[Eliades]

Wow. I can't believe this thread was made in 2013, the steaming pile of dog shit that is feminism has only gotten way worse since then. But, sadly while we can't fight it while them left cucks are running Western Democracies. This will sound a little controversial, but to get rid of it, you'd have to repeal the 19th (if in the US), or let Islam take over. Which no one wants either of lol

Edit: Teach the youth not to simp, and teach them way more masculine practices and ideas.

[RogueState]

You only fight an idea with another idea

And to do that, you need to remind them that first of all, being against feminism is not about being against women, who are equal in rights with men (but equality doesn't mean interchangeability though, and should emphasize rather mutual aid & complementary), and that it's a destructive ideology from some frustrated women, often spinsters, that is not beneficial for women at first.

You need to provide positive counter-examples, narratives, role models, of fulfilled mothers with children and husband, that pure competitive career ambitions in the corporate world is not a source of happiness per se (if some women wants it, good for them, but it shouldn't be given more importance than the woman who just wants to be a stay-at-home mom), that men are not oppressors by nature but rather protectors, ...

[Sasaolo68]

IMO Feminism is useless in the majority of the christian/western countries nowadays, women already got their human rights that they needed on these countries. I don't know if abortion is legal in most western countries, but i personally don't see much problem on it nowadays, i had a discussion once with a hardcore feminist about abortion that ended with me saying: " if you think you can't be a good mother then go for it, it is better than treating a child like shit and create a monster"

[Sasaolo68]

I think some possible, but not certain ways to combat it are holding women to the same standard of accountability for their actions, I also believe men need to stop doing extra favors for pretty women and thus giving attractive women entitlement and undeserved power (and I believe this also encourages promiscuity). I also believe ignoring them and not giving feminists attention can help a ton, also calling out feminists when they act hypocritical (which I have seen too many times now).


Like on many groups, there are always someone acting hypocritical, for example, there are some feminists that are actually very homophobic.
And i have seen many people saying that Simone Beauviour was very racist...

[alnortedelsur]

Feminist does not equal to feminazi.

Learn the difference.

You are a stupid masculinized and ultra liberal feminazi. Who hates being a woman, like all radical feminists like you do.

Because of brainwashed useful idiots like you, the west is so screwed up like it is.

[oszkar07]

I think some possible, but not certain ways to combat it are holding women to the same standard of accountability for their actions, I also believe men need to stop doing extra favors for pretty women and thus giving attractive women entitlement and undeserved power (and I believe this also encourages promiscuity). I also believe ignoring them and not giving feminists attention can help a ton, also calling out feminists when they act hypocritical (which I have seen too many times now).

What I think is a shame though is I think old school feminism had good principles, now it has been completely corrupted. I think modern feminism has started to harm women more than do good.

Feminism has had some valid points historically.
But problem with it has been this idea of equal footing between the 2 genders ... but then in reality there has been many situations where things are not equal.
In fact in some respects the pendulum has swung further the other way.


Anyway the whole feminist thing is all mixed up even feminists dont agree with each other.
This means that there are many different ideas under the umbrella of feminism.
You have the feminists who would be opposed to females being naked in girlie magazines then you would have the feminists that will say women should be able to do whatever they want with their sexuality and shouldnt be judged or restricted then other feminists would be offended by that. So the banner of feminism is a mixed bag that represents a lot of different womens ideas but it is not necessarily an ideology that represents all women in fact its a ideology made up of many different ideas under the banner of feminsim. People who have big voices in it can use the ism to promote their own individual ideas but they say its on behalf of all women but not all women necessarily agree with all the ideas that are promoted under its banner.

[Tongio]

You cant realy fight feminism because its not a political movement, but a natural ever existing side of "the feminine", complaining about not having enough,like a little spoiled kid to his simp dad.The problem , that is present among so many woman (and also men), is that is never good enough , the consesions , the privilegies, the apearences, megalomania is at all times high as people get desensetised by excessive estimula and possibilities of easy pleasure and conquests.

[Tongio]

Like on many groups, there are always someone acting hypocritical, for example, there are some feminists that are actually very homophobic.
And i have seen many people saying that Simone Beauviour was very racist...

Simone de beauvoir was also a sexual abuser of hopeless little girls along with her frog husband.
Very non empowering of them lel

Reference: A disgraceful affair , book by Bianca Lanblin where she Góes in details about the sexual exploitation her then School teacher Simone de Bouvoir (in her 30s) and husband Sartre did on her, while Bianca was a young teen.She was just one of many.

[oszkar07]

You cant realy fight feminism because its not a political movement, but a natural ever existing side of "the feminine", complaining about not having enough,like a little spoiled kid to his simp dad.The problem , that is present among so many woman (and also men), is that is never good enough , the consesions , the privilegies, the apearences, megalomania is at all times high as people get desensetised by excessive estimula and possibilities of easy pleasure and conquests.

Problem is people tend to use and abuse Ism's to their own individual benefits.
People will use whatever platforms are available to get maxium empowerment and benefit.
As opposed to being fair, balanced and honest.

[znenammi]

Follow the teachings of Allah and Mohammed the mighty, join Islam.

[Petalpusher]

Put your dick in it.

[JamesBond007]

Follow the teachings of Allah and Mohammed the mighty, join Islam.Gas the Jews and send women to reeducation camps.


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[Ylla]

You are a stupid masculinized and ultra liberal feminazi. Who hates being a woman, like all radical feminists like you do.

Because of brainwashed useful idiots like you, the west is so screwed up like it is.

I dont know what it is about radical feminists. I get the impression that they hate being women and feel repulsed by femininity. Ironically that is the most anti-female ideology to have.

[Teutone]

Gas the Jews and send women to reeducation camps.


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you returned, yeeeeeees

[Urbanuss]

with mass extermination of feminists

[Celestia]

I dont know what it is about radical feminists. I get the impression that they hate being women and feel repulsed by femininity. Ironically that is the most anti-female ideology to have.

I have a close friend who considers herself a feminist. She’s explained to me that she finds the notion of women being submissive to men as repulsive and feels that we should never allow them that sort of control.

My opinion is that radical feminism and atheism tend to go hand in hand.
We need to reintroduce Christianity as it once was rather than this nondenominational garbage we have now and traditional values will start to pass down to families again.

[znenammi]

Gas the Jews and send women to reeducation camps.


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Are you serious? If so, well....

[JamesBond007]

you returned, yeeeeeeesDon't make me flex my superior intelligence my nigga. Men shouldn't buy into the politically-correct nonsense in which men and women are said to be 'equal'. What this idiotic doctrine has done is to provide a rationale for feminizing men, thus making them weaker and less aggressive in protecting their own and their family's freedom, and making them more easily manipulated by government bureaucrats.

Along with liberalism the Jewish question is the most important issue facing Western men.
Most Jews are liberals, and Jews have been prime movers in all of the major liberal social phenomena in America (Dershowitz (1997: 269), MacDonald (1998)). For example, Jews were founders of the NAACP and have served almost continuously as its principal directors and legal counsel; Jews founded and dominate the ACLU; most of the major feminists have been Jewish women (eg, Betty Friedan, Gloria Steinem); the civil rights movement -- including SNCC and Martin Luther King -- was dominated by Jews and/or communists; Jews comprised more than 50% of all appointed positions in the flamingly-liberal Clinton administration not to mention Obama's administration; Jewish senators and representatives have been the major forces behind gun control legislation (Schumer, Metzenbaum, Feinstein, etc), and so on virtually ad infinitum. What goes unstated in all this Jewish liberal activity, however, is that, as early as the late 1920s the (Jewish) leaders of international communism seized on the race issue as a means of tearing apart the world center of individual liberty -- and thus their mortal enemy -- America; and the subsequent Jewish/communist promotion of "civil rights" -- a notion which has now spilled over into feminism, gay rights, children's rights and all sorts of other Balkanization schemes to set groups against one another -- has been so successful that many Americans are now talking openly of racial warfare and the breakup of the country.

MacDonald, Kevin, The Culture of Critique: An Evolutionary Analysis of Jewish Involvement in Twentieth-Century Intellectual and Political Movements, Praeger, 1998

Dershowitz, Alan M, The Vanishing American Jew, Little, Brown & Co, 1997

Feminism: A Jewish Adversary Movement Against Gentile Culture

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Here is a list of some of the Jewish founders and leaders of the modern feminist revolution. Keep in mind that this list is by no means complete--these women are simply the more well-known within the feminist movement; thousands of lesser-known Jewish women lead local and obscure feminist groups1:

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-Gloria Steinem ; founder, Ms. Magazine.

-Bella Abzug ; Civil rights and labor attorney elected to Congress (House of Rep.) from New York City; served 1971-1977.

-Betty Friedan ; feminist leader and author of the book "The Feminine Mystique" (1963).

-Shulamith Firestone ; Canadian feminist. Wrote "The Dialectic of Sex" (1970).

-Andrea Dworkin ; radical; apparent lesbian. Author of the book "Intercourse" (1987).

-Susan Brownmiller ; U.S. feminist. Wrote the book "Against Our Will" (1975).

-Susan Faludi ; author of the book "Backlash" (1992).

-Naomi Wolf ; advisor to Al Gore in the 2000 U.S. presidential election.

-Emma Goldman; early U.S. feminist.

-Ernestine Rose; based in Poland; early feminist.

-Phyllis Chesler ; U.S. feminist; author of the book "Woman's Inhumanity to Woman" (2002).

-Judy Chicago (Cohen); U.S. feminist. Author of the book "The Dinner Party" (1996).

-Robin Morgan ; U.S. feminist. Former editor-in-chief, Ms. magazine.

-Letty Cottin Pogrebin ; U.S. feminist; co-founded Ms. magazine.

-Gerda Lerner ; b. in Austria.

-Annie Nathan Meyer ; U.S. feminist.

-Maud Nathan ; sister of Annie Nathan Meyer; U.S. feminist.

-Geri Palast ; chair, Committee on Women in the Global Economy; U.S. feminist.

-Rose Schneiderman ; based in Poland.

-Anita Pollitzer ; U.S. feminist; pal of artist Georgia O'Keeffe.

-Gene Boyer ; a founder of N.O.W.; president of Jewish Feminists; U.S. feminist.

-Lucy Komisar ; author of the book "The New Feminism" (1971); U.S. feminist.

-Karen Nussbaum ; (apparently Jewish); leader of 9to5-National Association of Working Women.

-Eleanor Flexner ; (apparently Jewish--relative is a Zionist); U.S. feminist.

-Riane Eisler ; based Vienna; author/feminist; (apparently Jewish--fled Nazis). Author of the book "The Chalice and the Blade" (1987).

Notes

1. sources include Jewish author Dr. Joshua Halberstam's book "Schmoozing," 1997, Perigee; also web searches, and from my personal files and notes.





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[PlattitüdenPaule]

How about just behaving like always?

[calxpal]

I honestly think It's a shame that women don't have a better uniting ideology to follow other than modern feminism, it has so many ideas coming out of it that I find bias and blatantly wrong, and even offensive. Interestingly, I actually think that as modern feminism has gained popularity women have become more hostile and competitive towards other fellow women, even though it should be the opposite women should be helping and lifting each other up more.

[InmostLight]

Maybe they will drive themselves to extinction through mass infanticide, self-sterilization, and their abhorrence of the family structure. No self-respecting man would breed with one. If they do manage to reproduce, perhaps their children's inevitable resentment of the way they were raised will fuel more extreme anti-feminist action. I can speak on this from experience.

I'm 21 and it seems like there are less gen z feminists than millennial feminists, but the feminists in our generation are considerably more extreme. The upside to this is that they make ridiculous fools of themselves, usually documenting their idiocy online for everyone to see how degenerate their ideology has become.

The subtle, soft-power impacts happen weekly in my life... Watching the women around me soften and slowly strip themselves of feminist ideology. As a woman, you have to set a good example of how joyous femininity truly is. Some will envy it deep down, and others will begin to chase it as they see the radiance of your true happiness as a woman. In person, I keep the anti-feminist vitriol to myself, but allow the joy of my femininity to shine through. "Speak softly and carry a big stick". Never stoop to their level of outbursts, meltdowns, and rudeness.