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Brännvin
11-09-2009, 08:20 PM
Why a scum Nordicist doesn't have the right for to be a scum Nordicist?

Svipdag
11-09-2009, 09:13 PM
In a word, unknowable. If truth be defined, provisionally, at least, as correspondence to reality, then, inasmuch as we cannot know reality, we cannot know truth.

The world of our experience is an artifact, and we are the makers of that artifact. Such properties of phenomena as colour, brightness, loudness, pitch, smell, taste, etc. are all responses of our sensory organs and our nervous systems to stimuli arising outside our skins.

In that outer world, such properties as energies and numbers of photons, amplitudes of condensations and rarefactions of the air, frequencies of arrival of such condensations and rarefaction at our typmanic membranes, chemical reactions between molecules of acids, bases, salts, and complex organic molecules with our taste buds, and chemical reactions of gaseous molecules with our olfactory receptors exist. We know nothing of any of these things except as mediated by our senses.

Immanuel Kant called these unknown causes of our sensory impressions das Ding an sich, the thing in itself, and recognized that we have no way of knowing it. Sensory experience, then does not give us access to reality.

Does reason reveal reality to us ? There are two major types of reasoning, deductive and inductive. The classic exercise in deductive reasoning is the syllogism, and the classic syllogism is Plato's. Major premise: All men are mortal [This is an axion, assumed without proof.] Minor Premise: Socrates is a man. Conclusion: Socrates is mortal. Deductive reasoning has told us nothing which we didn't know already inasmuch as the conclusion is implicit in the premises .

Inductive reasoning infers from an abundance of favourable examples of a proposition the truth or falsity of which is to be determined and a lack of contrary examples, that it is true. E.g. Everybody known to have been born before, e.g., 1870 has died. There are millions or billions or examples of this. There is not a single known example of a person still living who was born before 1870. Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that all men are mortal.

There is no guarantee of the truth of a generalisation based on inductive reasoning. One exception is enough to invalidate the conclusion. This, then, also cannot be relied upon to find truth.

Throughout human history, mystics have claimed that truth can be known directly in states of expanded consciousness, that mystical experience is TRUE and requires neither sensory experience nor reason to reveal it.
Religious revelation is proclaimed to be of this nature.

Unfortunately, human language, devised to describe our quotidian activities and our familiar sensory expriences, is inadquate to describe mystical experiences. Consider, for example, the Revelation of St. John, the Divine.
It is clear that this revelation seeks to describe a profound and very deeply moving mystical experience of St. John the Divine. But, WHAT WAS IT ?

It must have been extremely frustrating to St. John the Divine to attempt to communicate this great experience to others in language which was unsuited to the task. Whatever his experience was, it was, alas, incommunicable.

An individual may be able to achieve realisation of Truth through mystical experience, but this Truth, though it may be Absolute, because it is incommunicable must be considered subjective.

Owing to our limitations, then, we poor mortals cannot know Absolute Truth or Reality. All we can know is the half-truths of our self-constructed experiential world.

Matritensis
11-09-2009, 09:37 PM
You can be a scum nordicist if you want! I suspect nordicism is mainly a problem of aesthetics.I understand(and accept) if somebody tells me that Nordics have to be preserved because they are unique and often breathtakingly beautiful.But I don't accept anybody telling me that because you're physically unique,or beautiful,you are better and the source of all goodness.Specially when real life doesn't support the myth.

Mesrine
11-09-2009, 09:39 PM
Why a scum Nordicist doesn't have the right for to be a scum Nordicist?

Well, he has this right.

Falkata
11-09-2009, 09:47 PM
I dont understand this nordicism since norwegians or swedish aren´t close to other suppossed nordic people. What are the links between a latvian like Inese and a norwegian? Blond hair? :confused: They aren´t close genetically or in culture, history, language...
Appart from that i´m ok if somebody wants to preserve his/her nordic phenotype having kids just with other nordics. But insulting the southern countries is not right for me, specially when some of these people believe in the concept of "Europe". Europe is nosense without Italy, Greece,Iberia... so i dont gonna accept that somebody from Ukraine or some insignificant ex-sovietic republic insult me and my people just because they are lighter. Good for them, they could show that superiority during the history at least.

Svipdag
11-09-2009, 09:52 PM
What the HELL has Nordicism got to do with Absolute Truth ? :mad: Do you people mind getting back on the topic ?

Matritensis
11-09-2009, 10:09 PM
Why a scum Nordicist doesn't have the right for to be a scum Nordicist?

Well,ask the original poster...

Brännvin
11-11-2009, 04:40 PM
What the HELL has Nordicism got to do with Absolute Truth ? :mad: Do you people mind getting back on the topic ?


Well,ask the original poster...

There I asked it why I want to sterilize all nordicist racialists scum on face of earth. So I want to validate my desire since exist no absolute truth.

So can one argue against it?

Tabiti
11-11-2009, 04:43 PM
Every truth is considered to be the absolute truth as long as there are lack of any evidences proving otherwise;)

Lutiferre
11-11-2009, 06:10 PM
There I asked it why I want to sterilize all nordicist racialists scum on face of earth. So I want to validate my desire since exist no absolute truth.

That hardly validates your desire.

The question is what you mean with absolute truth, and how there is no absolute truth; and whether that is itself an absolute truth?

If it's not, then I can say just as well that I disregard whatever you say, because it isn't absolute truth.

But it's meaningless.

Jamt
11-11-2009, 06:35 PM
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Óttar
11-11-2009, 07:15 PM
What the HELL has Nordicism got to do with Absolute Truth ? :mad: Do you people mind getting back on the topic ?
:rotfl:

I think interpreting the title literally leads to a more intellectually fulfilling thread. Let's ignore the first post, shall we?

Artur
01-07-2010, 04:48 PM
What the HELL has Nordicism got to do with Absolute Truth ? :mad: Do you people mind getting back on the topic ?

the thread creator probably made a huge confusion. I suppose he wanted to emphasise the lack of an "absolute truth"(universal) to validate his viewing regarding the nordicists.

But your previous post is quite good. :wink

safinator
02-25-2012, 04:47 PM
Some things can be true for an certain amount of time. I have a glass full of ice is true, until the ice melts. While I don't believe in absolutes for the most part, an absolute truth would be true forever under all circumstances. Sort of like absolute zero is when no heat is measurable.

Ariets
03-18-2012, 02:24 PM
Truth is pointless. Why? It's just a word that is subiective form of perception, therefore everyone can speak the truth nevermind if its right or wrong. It's a term that reffers to metaphysics.

That so-called 'Absolute Truth' should be called 'Fact', because facts are undisputable, and reffers to physical world.

Neanderthal
03-18-2012, 02:27 PM
There is no such thing as absolute anything.

arcticwolf
04-07-2013, 04:53 AM
How do you describe something that is unknown and the only way to get to it is through the unknown? Sounds like a tough job, light up a joint, kick back, what the fuck do you care about that shit anyhoo? :laugh:

Sblast
04-20-2013, 11:53 AM
A Platonic form; a truth that has no context (since it is not relative to anything); the ultimate dictionary of everything.

Siberian Cold Breeze
04-20-2013, 12:33 PM
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RussiaPrussia
05-29-2013, 08:01 PM
Truth is pointless. Why? It's just a word that is subiective form of perception, therefore everyone can speak the truth nevermind if its right or wrong. It's a term that reffers to metaphysics.

That so-called 'Absolute Truth' should be called 'Fact', because facts are undisputable, and reffers to physical world.

wth, a prussian cat