“Dacian bracelets” are exposed as fake by Brussels Art Laboratory

[Szegedist]

Former Romanian Minister of Culture Adrian Iorgulescu paid more than six million Euros for 38 fake Dacian bracelets a few years ago writes ZIUAnews.

After examining the "archaeological finds", by Europe's oldest lab, Brussels Art Laboratory, it was established that the bracelets were made in the 20th century.

ZIUAnews urges an investigation against former Minister of Culture Adrian Iorgulescu and all those involved in the falsification of the history of Romania.

The portal reports that strangely, authorities didn't question for a minute how it was possible finding 38 pieces of bracelets in one place; it seems that Dacians had gathered around a pit dropped the bracelets in it so that two thousand years later, three persons find them.

The location of the “archaeological site” is also uncertain.


http://www.ziuanews.ro/static/images/bratari_dacice_interior.jpg

http://www.ziuanews.ro/dezvaluiri-investigatii/bratarile-dacice-turnate-in-secolul-xx-109776

[Szegedist]

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA, now the fake "romani-an" history is slowly but surely falling apart. They cant keep fooling the world with their "dacian bracelets" and securitate built "dacian fortresses" :)))))))))))))

[Vlach]

You're pathetic
Why you are so mad?

[Szegedist]

Pathetic = inventing and falsifying "ancient" historical artefacts by your state to push forwards your bullshit theories and false claims for Transylvania.

[Szegedist]

Everyone must see this thread, and see the TRUE nature of romani-ans, a group of thieves, cheats and liars who were given their own state!

[Vlach]

=)))))))))))))) Get a life stupid bozgor, your only job on this forum is to troll romanians. Because thats your shitty nation, you make fun about serbian,slovak,romanians but you are more shitty than us.
For a fucking retarded government what cheat some bracelets for money, that means our ancestors are not dacians? EPIC BOZGOR

[Szegedist]

= but you are more shitty than us.
Hungary > Romania in every way. Source: history


For a fucking retarded government what cheat some bracelets for money, that means our ancestors are not dacians? EPIC BOZGOR

But this "fucking retarded goverment" invented your Daco-Gypsy fairy tales!

[Vlach]

Hungary > Romania in every way. Source: history



But this "fucking retarded goverment" invented your Daco-Gypsy fairy tales!

Yes, inveted, thats why we have dacians culture, words and traditions?

[Szegedist]

Yes, inveted, thats why we have dacians culture, words and traditions?

You dont have dacian words, you dont have dacian culture, and you dont have dacian traditions.

"traditions" that were invented in 19th century by Avram Iancu , Cauescu in the 20th century and other retards like him do not count.

[Vlach]

You dont have dacian words, you dont have dacian culture, and you dont have dacian traditions.

"traditions" that were invented in 19th century by Avram Iancu , Cauescu in the 20th century and other retards like him do not count.

You are fucking pathetic =))))))))
The pagan traditions are inveted by Avram Iancu =))))))))))))))))??????????
Anyway you are talking about inveted history, your historians say Transyvlania was in Hungary for 1000 years. Probably for them Hungary= Ottoman empire and Austrian empire. :picard2:

[Szegedist]

You are fucking pathetic =))))))))
The pagan traditions are inveted by Avram Iancu =))))))))))))))))??????????
Anyway you are talking about inveted history, your historians say Transyvlania was in Hungary for 1000 years. Probably for them Hungary= Ottoman empire and Austrian empire. :picard2:

Transylvania part of Kingdom of Hungary late 800s-1500s. Then Eastern HUNGARIAN Kingdom, then the Hungarian Principality of Transylvania, and then united with Hungary again.
:)))))

[Vlach]

Transylvania part of Kingdom of Hungary late 800s-1500s. Then Eastern HUNGARIAN Kingdom, then the Hungarian Principality of Transylvania, and then united with Hungary again.
:)))))

Im talking about 1526-1848 :picard2:

[Szegedist]

Im talking about 1526-1848 :picard2:
Yes Gypsy, read about Eastern Hungarian Kingdom, and Principality of Transylvania

[Vlach]

Yes Gypsy, read about Eastern Hungarian Kingdom, and Principality of Transylvania

Bozgor prost si penibil, Principality of Transylvania was a indepdent country.

[Szegedist]

Bozgor prost si penibil, Principality of Transylvania was a indepdent country.

It was a Hungarian principality. By your logic, Prussia is not Germany, Wallachia is not Romania :laugh:

Transylvania was a Hungarian principality, read about its history, from Bethlen to Rákóczi and so on. Read about the history stupid primitive romani-an.
SA O SUGETI LA ROMANI.

[blogen]

Transylvania part of Kingdom of Hungary late 800s-1500s. Then Eastern HUNGARIAN Kingdom, then the Hungarian Principality of Transylvania, and then united with Hungary again.
:)))))

:picard1: Jesus, your historical knowledge worse than the Romanians' knowledge! But no:


Bozgor prost si penibil, Principality of Transylvania was a indepdent country.

The Romanians do not know the history too.

Transylvania was the Hungarian kingdom's part between 1003 and 1867 continuously. The Hungarian king and the Transsylvanian princes (the prince was the voivode's successor in a rank, voivode = prince in the western hierarchy) insisted on this and this was the clear legal situation too. The unit was never broken legally and political and military experiments happened continuously from both parts to the restoration of the functional unity.

And the Eastern Hungarian Kingdom is a historical and not a legal name.

[Vlach]

It was a Hungarian principality. By your logic, Prussia is not Germany, Wallachia is not Romania :laugh:

Transylvania was a Hungarian principality, read about its history, from Bethlen to Rákóczi and so on. Read about the history stupid primitive romani-an.
SA O SUGETI LA ROMANI.

Was a hungarian principality but hungary was under domination of ottoman empire? :picard2:
You are fucking incredible, how much shit can you eat?

[Szegedist]

:picard1: Jesus, your historical knowledge worse than the Romanians' knowledge!

Transylvania was the Hungarian kingdom's part between 1003 and 1867 continuously. The Hungarian king and the Transsylvanian princes (the prince was the voivode's successor in a rank, voivode = prince in the western hierarchy) insisted on this and this was the clear legal situation too. The unit was never broken legally and political and military experiments happened continuously from both parts to the restoration of the legal situation.

And the Eastern Hungarian Kingdom is a historical and not a legal name.

Proletarian shaman! I am explaining it to him in terms that he will understand!

I am very well aware of the situation.

[Szegedist]

Was a hungarian principality but hungary was under domination of ottoman empire? :picard2:
You are fucking incredible, how much shit can you eat?

Interesting that Wallachia was under Ottoman domination for 600 years while (only a part of) Hungary for about 150 years. hmm?

[Vlach]

Proletarian shaman! I am explaining it to him in terms that he will understand!

I am very well aware of the situation.

And the whole Europe are trint to explain the situation, only the present is important, the history is just for bitches like you or passionates. :coffee:


Interesting that Wallachia was under Ottoman domination for 600 years while (only a part of) Hungary for about 150 years. hmm?
I'm talking about Bozgoria(Hungary) not about Wallachia.


Transylvania was the Hungarian kingdom's part between 1003 and 1867 continuously. The Hungarian king and the Transsylvanian princes (the prince was the voivode's successor in a rank, voivode = prince in the western hierarchy) insisted on this and this was the clear legal situation too. The unit was never broken legally and political and military experiments happened continuously from both parts to the restoration of the legal situation.

And the Eastern Hungarian Kingdom is a historical and not a legal name.

Yes, I know, 99% of transylvania voivode's was hungarians, but that not means Transylvania was Hungary, anyway...

[Szegedist]

And the whole Europe are trint to explain the situation, only the present is important, the history is just for bitches like you or passionates. :coffee:

When I call you and your gypsy country out, you suddenly turn into a liberal (to hide your inner fascist) and cry that history is not important.

[Szegedist]

Vlachs (medieval romanians) were the
latest people who introduced the literacy in Europe, and they were
one of the latest shepherd nomadic people in Europe. (There were no
orthodox bishopry in medieval Vallachia Moldavia, most monks came
from Serbia) Therefore poor romanians had to built up a "speculative
history-writting" (or fabricated history), where speculations
based on earlier speculations and fictions etc..

There are no
material proofs (cemetries cultic places) which can support the
romanian (vlach) existence in present-day territory of romania before
the 1200s. There are no written documents about the existence Vlachs
in the territory of later Vallachia Moldavia Transylvania before the
1200s.

WERE WERE YOU HIDDING for 800 years dear
"daco"-romans?

The neo-latin elements in
Romanian language remain the best proof agaist daco-roman theory.
Unlike other neo-latin languages, there are no proofs for development
of dacian language into a neo-latin language, because there are not
remained dacian vocabulary for the posterior. The dacian conquest was
the shortest lasting conquest of the Roman Empire in Europe, it
lasted only 160years, the relations between the roman legions and
dacians remianed hostile. (Note: The contemporary multi-ethnic
legionaries were Roman citizens, but they were recruited from various
primarily multinational, non-Latin provinces, so THEY WERE NOT ROMANS
) This very short & hostile circumstance are not an ideal
contingency for romanization process. There are no historic records
for the survive of dacians after the Roman withdrawal, and later the
territory was the FOCAL POINT of great migrations (serials of many
strong powerfull and brutal barbaric tribes and people such as Huns,
Goths, Gepids Longobards, Avars, Pechenegs and Cumans.). There are
tons of contemporary written documents (chronicles from early
medieval to high medieval age etc.) about the sheprherd nomad Vlachs
in Balkan peninsula, but there are no material or written proofs for
their existence in the present-day territory of Romania before the
1200s. However the roman rule lasted for 500+ years in many
territories of Balkan peninsula (where vlachs were often mentioned by
many early medieval chronicles) There is also no trace of influence
from any of the other peoples who lived in Transylvania after the
withdrawal of the Romans, the Huns, Goths, Gepids Longobards, Avars,
Pechenegs and Cumans. If these languages did not have any influence
on the Rumanian language, we can be sure that this is proof that at
that time there were no Wallachian settlers in Transylvania.

In
the reality Vlachs (romanians) migrated from Bulgaria ans
South-Eastern Serbia to the present-day territory of Romania. The
daco-romanian continuity myth is not generally accepted, that's why
all major Western Encyclopedias (E.Encarta, E. Britannica,
E.Americana, German Brockhaus, French Larousse etc...) mention the
romanian state-supported daco-romanian myth, but they are also
mention the Vlach migration theory fom the Balkans in the 13th
century..

The territory of later Wallachia region
belonged to the Bulgarians first, later it came under Byzantine rule.
Both Moldavia and Wallachia became occupied and ruled by the Cumans.
Later your principalities became vassal state of the Hungarian kings
and Polish kings, than romanians became an Ottoman province until
1878.

[Vlach]

Vlachs (medieval romanians) were the
latest people who introduced the literacy in Europe, and they were
one of the latest shepherd nomadic people in Europe. (There were no
orthodox bishopry in medieval Vallachia Moldavia, most monks came
from Serbia) Therefore poor romanians had to built up a "speculative
history-writting" (or fabricated history), where speculations
based on earlier speculations and fictions etc..

There are no
material proofs (cemetries cultic places) which can support the
romanian (vlach) existence in present-day territory of romania before
the 1200s. There are no written documents about the existence Vlachs
in the territory of later Vallachia Moldavia Transylvania before the
1200s.

WERE WERE YOU HIDDING for 800 years dear
"daco"-romans?

The neo-latin elements in
Romanian language remain the best proof agaist daco-roman theory.
Unlike other neo-latin languages, there are no proofs for development
of dacian language into a neo-latin language, because there are not
remained dacian vocabulary for the posterior. The dacian conquest was
the shortest lasting conquest of the Roman Empire in Europe, it
lasted only 160years, the relations between the roman legions and
dacians remianed hostile. (Note: The contemporary multi-ethnic
legionaries were Roman citizens, but they were recruited from various
primarily multinational, non-Latin provinces, so THEY WERE NOT ROMANS
) This very short & hostile circumstance are not an ideal
contingency for romanization process. There are no historic records
for the survive of dacians after the Roman withdrawal, and later the
territory was the FOCAL POINT of great migrations (serials of many
strong powerfull and brutal barbaric tribes and people such as Huns,
Goths, Gepids Longobards, Avars, Pechenegs and Cumans.). There are
tons of contemporary written documents (chronicles from early
medieval to high medieval age etc.) about the sheprherd nomad Vlachs
in Balkan peninsula, but there are no material or written proofs for
their existence in the present-day territory of Romania before the
1200s. However the roman rule lasted for 500+ years in many
territories of Balkan peninsula (where vlachs were often mentioned by
many early medieval chronicles) There is also no trace of influence
from any of the other peoples who lived in Transylvania after the
withdrawal of the Romans, the Huns, Goths, Gepids Longobards, Avars,
Pechenegs and Cumans. If these languages did not have any influence
on the Rumanian language, we can be sure that this is proof that at
that time there were no Wallachian settlers in Transylvania.

In
the reality Vlachs (romanians) migrated from Bulgaria ans
South-Eastern Serbia to the present-day territory of Romania. The
daco-romanian continuity myth is not generally accepted, that's why
all major Western Encyclopedias (E.Encarta, E. Britannica,
E.Americana, German Brockhaus, French Larousse etc...) mention the
romanian state-supported daco-romanian myth, but they are also
mention the Vlach migration theory fom the Balkans in the 13th
century..

The territory of later Wallachia region
belonged to the Bulgarians first, later it came under Byzantine rule.
Both Moldavia and Wallachia became occupied and ruled by the Cumans.
Later your principalities became vassal state of the Hungarian kings
and Polish kings, than romanians became an Ottoman province until
1878.

Probably no one will read this shit, but you are to brainless.
And no one gives a fuck about who was first in Transylvania, i told you for 100 times, important is the present idiot not the past.

[alexbass]

Former Romanian Minister of Culture Adrian Iorgulescu paid more than six million Euros for 38 fake Dacian bracelets a few years ago writes ZIUAnews.

After examining the "archaeological finds", by Europe's oldest lab, Brussels Art Laboratory, it was established that the bracelets were made in the 20th century.

ZIUAnews urges an investigation against former Minister of Culture Adrian Iorgulescu and all those involved in the falsification of the history of Romania.

The portal reports that strangely, authorities didn't question for a minute how it was possible finding 38 pieces of bracelets in one place; it seems that Dacians had gathered around a pit dropped the bracelets in it so that two thousand years later, three persons find them.

The location of the “archaeological site” is also uncertain.


http://www.ziuanews.ro/static/images/bratari_dacice_interior.jpg

http://www.ziuanews.ro/dezvaluiri-investigatii/bratarile-dacice-turnate-in-secolul-xx-109776



What's the purpose of wasting your time and energy to prove something that no one really cares.I haven't even heard about those bracelets.Stop being a psychopath.

[Szegedist]

Excellent! Another romani-an has arrived!

[Shah-Jehan]

What does "Bozgor" mean?:confused:

[Szegedist]

What does "Bozgor" mean?:confused:

Bozgor comes from Bocskor, a type of shoe worn by romani-an vlach shepards
http://mek.oszk.hu/02100/02115/html/img/1-294b.jpg

Originally it was used by Hungarians against Romanians, it meant as "one without a homeland", referring to the migratory shepard vlach way of life, but then they stole it and began to use it against us (they even steal our insults).

[Szegedist]

Probably no one will read this shit, but you are to brainless.
And no one gives a fuck about who was first in Transylvania, i told you for 100 times, important is the present idiot not the past.

Typical! When your lies and falsifications get called out, you begin crying "nobody cares" or "history doesnt matter".

[Vlach]

Typical! When your lies and falsifications get called out, you begin crying "nobody cares" or "history doesnt matter".

How the history helps you? Are you fucking psychopath?
The history for me is just a hobby but you are a psychopath, dude.
For some stupid bracelets, that means we are not dacians?

Originally it was used by Hungarians against Romanians
You are incredible, how can you invent so many stories? What the hell you win if hungarians was the firsts what used this word? You are really psychopath dude.


What does "Bozgor" mean?

This is a romanian word, in hungarian "bozgor" doesnt exist.

[alexbass]

May i ask you something? Are you mental? I don't care about your theories or my ancestors or my fellows countryman's lies(people and government are the same in every country).The fact that I live is enough for me and I'm happy with it.My mate sent me here to show me an animal.

[blogen]

What does "Bozgor" mean?:confused:

The bozgor word origin front the 19th century from the union of the "bozmeg", the Romanian version of the Hungarian "bazmeg" (fuck you, the frequentest Hungarian swear) and the Romanian name of the Hungarians "ungur": boz+gor. This is the pejorative name of the Hungarians in Romania.

[Szegedist]

How the history helps you? Are you fucking psychopath?
The history for me is just a hobby but you are a psychopath, dude.
Maybe if Romania HAD A history, you wouldn't say crap like this :)))) but no, you have no real history, no real culture, nothing, big 0



For some stupid bracelets, that means we are not dacians?
These fake bracelets are just a small part of the larger romani-an web of lies and fairy tales.


You are incredible, how can you invent so many stories? What the hell you win if hungarians was the firsts what used this word? You are really psychopath dude.
Loooool, even you claimed this word is of Hungarian origins gypsy liar.




This is a romanian word, in hungarian "bozgor" doesnt exist.
Bozgor, just like Ardeal has no meaning in Romanian, they are words copied from Hungarian.

[curiousman]

(Note: The contemporary multi-ethnic
legionaries were Roman citizens, but they were recruited from various
primarily multinational, non-Latin provinces, so THEY WERE NOT ROMANS
)

Here you are for sure wrong because the scenario you are depicting is valid only AFTER 212 A.D. when Roman citizenship was extended to all freeborn males of the Empire. At the time of the Roman conquest of Dacia the Roman army, with the minor exception of auxiliary troops, was made only of Roman citizens, that is at that time only of people coming from peninsular Italy or even outside Italy but descending from Italian colonists (Emperor Trajan was one of them).

[Vlach]

The bozgor word origin front the 19th century from the union of the "bozmeg", the Romanian version of the Hungarian "bazmeg" (fuck you, the frequentest Hungarian swear) and the Romanian name of the Hungarians "ungur": boz+gor. This is the pejorative name of the Hungarians in Romania.

But, but Szegedist said it doesnt :(.


Quote Originally Posted by Velaxa View Post
Bozgor derives from bazd meg.


No it doesn't. (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?94271-Gypsies-are-not-Romanians/page2)

:picard2::picard2::picard2::picard2::picard2:


Maybe if Romania HAD A history, you wouldn't say crap like this ))) but no, you have no real history, no real culture, nothing, big 0

Romanian culture is 0? We have our own arhitecture, our own beautiful music, our own traditions, dude you are pathethic.

[blogen]

But, but Szegedist said it doesnt :(.

But he is a retard troll.

[Szegedist]

But, but Szegedist said it doesnt :(.



:picard2::picard2::picard2::picard2::picard2:

romani-an, the origins of Bozgor is disputed among linguists.

[Szegedist]

But he is a retard troll.

naturally, the dirty oláhcigány blogen feels solidarity with his romani-an brother.

[Szegedist]

Romanian culture is 0? We have our own arhitecture, our own beautiful music, our own traditions, dude you are pathethic.

My romani-an friend, lying, stealing, robbing and fucking sheep do not count as "traditions" and "beautiful music".

[blogen]

naturally, the dirty oláhcigány blogen feels solidarity with his romani-an brother.

You are a so much stupid troll, that yes.

[Vlach]

My romani-an friend, lying, stealing, robbing and fucking sheep do not count as "traditions" and "beautiful music".

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?104122-Romanians-New-Year-traditions

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Br%C3%A2ncovenesc_style


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxpHRPCsxTw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7QdQ8R5BUU

[Johnnyboy70]

naturally, the dirty oláhcigány blogen feels solidarity with his romani-an brother.

He has cuman identity (or jassic ), and he realized that romania has more common with his cumans and jassic, both genetically and historically. So our "cuman" friend became anti-hungarian, and pro romanian. He solved his identity crisis by this way.

[blogen]

He has cuman identity (or jassic ), and he realized that romania has more common with his cumans and jassic, both genetically and historically. So our "cuman" friend became anti-hungarian, and pro romanian. He solved his identity crisis by this way.

Wow, Stears talking with Stears! :laugh2: