Romanian Revolution 1989

[Vlach]

December 1989. The Romanian Revolution. 1104 dead people and 3352 injured, the Romanian Athenaeum, the Art Museum of Bucharest and the Central University Library burned down, millions of bullets, terrorists shooting from all directions, tanks, tabs, electronic and psychological warfare, children and young people shot on the streets. That was left behind and forever written in the Romanian history pages. Romania was the only country in Eastern Europe that has gone through a violent revolution on the path to democracy. Before the Romanian revolution, all the other Eastern European states had passed in a peaceful way to democracy.

Today 16 December: The starting point of the Romanian Revolution was the protest of the reformed pastor Laszlo Tokes and his parishioners against the measures the Romanian Government took to reform the Church. Same as the protests in Brasov, parishioners are increasingly joined by many Romanians, who started chanting “Freedom” in front of the parish house of Laszlo Tokes. The protest turned into a riot and from the moment they started marching on the streets of Timisoara on December 16, the Romanian Revolution began.

[Szegedist]

You forgot to mention one important fact, this revolution was started by a Hungarian.

[Vlach]

You forgot to mention one important fact, this revolution was started by a Hungarian.

Was started by romanians for a HUNGARIAN.
A hungarian what now is one of the most hated hungarians in Romania, because he is a piece of shit.

[Szegedist]

Was started by romanians for a HUNGARIAN.
A hungarian what now is one of the most hated hungarians in Romania, because he is a piece of shit.

MEP Laszlo Tokes, the head of EMNT, said that autonomy was “the only alternative to changing the borders”.

:))))

[Vlach]

MEP Laszlo Tokes, the head of EMNT, said that autonomy was “the only alternative to changing the borders”.

:))))

Yes, and? He is a piece of shit for me, I'm from Timisoara and I hate this guy.

[Szegedist]

I'm from Timisoara and I hate this guy.

Temesvár- today so called "Timisoara"

Temesvár was first mentioned as a place in either 1212 or 1266. The territory later to be known as Banat was conquered and annexed by the Kingdom of Hungary in 1030. Temesvár grew considerably during the reign of Károly I, who, upon his visit here in 1307, ordered the construction of a royal palace. Temesvár importance also grew due to its strategic location, which facilitated control over the Banat plain. John Hunyadi established a permanent military encampment here, and moved here together with his family. In 1552, a 16,000 Ottoman army conquered the city and transformed it into a capital city in the region. The local military commander, Stefan Losonczy, was captured and beheaded on July 27, 1552 after resisting the Ottoman invasion with just over 2,300 men.

[bimo]

:runs:

[Vlach]

Temesvár- today so called "Timisoara"

Temesvár was first mentioned as a place in either 1212 or 1266. The territory later to be known as Banat was conquered and annexed by the Kingdom of Hungary in 1030. Temesvár grew considerably during the reign of Károly I, who, upon his visit here in 1307, ordered the construction of a royal palace. Temesvár importance also grew due to its strategic location, which facilitated control over the Banat plain. John Hunyadi established a permanent military encampment here, and moved here together with his family. In 1552, a 16,000 Ottoman army conquered the city and transformed it into a capital city in the region. The local military commander, Stefan Losonczy, was captured and beheaded on July 27, 1552 after resisting the Ottoman invasion with just over 2,300 men.

Timișoara (Romanian pronunciation: [timiˈʃo̯ara] ( listen); German: Temeswar, also formerly Temeschburg or Temeschwar, Hungarian: Temesvár, Hungarian pronunciation: [ˈtɛmɛʃvaːr] ( listen), Yiddish: טעמשוואר, Serbian: Темишвар/Temišvar, Banat Bulgarian: Timišvár, Turkish: Temeşvar) is a multi-ethnic city.


:runs:

I know, he started the show and here... thats why I wanna to see this guy banned...

[armenianbodyhair]

Will you two just fuck already?

[Kiyant]

Will you two just fuck already?

LOL
Arent they both guys?

[Szegedist]

Timișoara (Romanian pronunciation: [timiˈʃo̯ara] ( listen); German: Temeswar, also formerly Temeschburg or Temeschwar, Hungarian: Temesvár, Hungarian pronunciation: [ˈtɛmɛʃvaːr] ( listen), Yiddish: טעמשוואר, Serbian: Темишвар/Temišvar, Banat Bulgarian: Timišvár, Turkish: Temeşvar) is a multi-ethnic city.



I know, he started the show and here... thats why I wanna to see this guy banned...

Wrong, it is a Hungarian city, which had a Hungarian majority before Caucescu.

[armenianbodyhair]

LOL
Arent they both guys?
What what in the butt.

[Kiyant]

What what in the butt.

Southpark?
Also ehhhhhh.......................

[Vlach]

Will you two just fuck already?
Who started? The psychopath bozgor, he always is the one what start bitching


Wrong, it is a Hungarian city, which had a Hungarian majority before Caucescu.
The majority in Timisoara was the germans :picard2: EPIC FAIL =)))))))
And in Banat there was more romanians than hungarians, thats why Banat is in Romania and isnt in Bozgoria.
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=40960&d=1385735984

[Szegedist]

According to an investigation based on place-names, 511 villages of Transylvania and Banat appear in documents at the end of the 13th century, however only 3 of them bore Romanian names.[52] Around 1400 AD, Transylvania and Banat consisted of 1757 villages, though only 76 (4.3%) of them had names of Romanian origin.

otal population of Hungary (Fig. 14) in 1715 was only 1,700,000 and that of Transylvania (Fig. 15) was 800,000. The wars between Hungary and the Turkish Empire (Fig. 16) devastated the territories, depopulating towns and villages. When the territory was reclaimed by the Hapsburgs, rich land owners and Crown agencies began to recruit Germans from Austria and southern Germany to fill the void and develop the lands.

Rumanians began (c. 1720-30's)(Fig. 17) to move west into Transylvania and ultimately into the Partium and the Bánát, where they had been unknown a century before. The Partiurn (Hungarian term) were regions, which, while not belonging to the recognized historic Transylvania and the southern, southeastern parts of Hungary, had been ruled by local princes in the Turkish era. Half of these had been restored to the Kingdom of Hungary by Charles III in 1738.

The other half (the Counties of Közép-Szolnok, Krszna and Zárand and the District of Kövár) were still with Transylvania in 1780.

The military authorities distrusted the Magyars politically and militarily. Therefore they strengthened the area with other populations more reliable, viz. the Germans and Serbs. Magyars were deliberately excluded from the Bánát.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/hu/timeline/414a3225beea2cdbd9637905227b8570.png

[BeerBaron]

this hungarian vs romanian none sense is just that, it happened after their masters lost control, the collapse of the soviet union.

[Vlach]

According to an investigation based on place-names, 511 villages of Transylvania and Banat appear in documents at the end of the 13th century, however only 3 of them bore Romanian names.[52] Around 1400 AD, Transylvania and Banat consisted of 1757 villages, though only 76 (4.3%) of them had names of Romanian origin.

otal population of Hungary (Fig. 14) in 1715 was only 1,700,000 and that of Transylvania (Fig. 15) was 800,000. The wars between Hungary and the Turkish Empire (Fig. 16) devastated the territories, depopulating towns and villages. When the territory was reclaimed by the Hapsburgs, rich land owners and Crown agencies began to recruit Germans from Austria and southern Germany to fill the void and develop the lands.

Rumanians began (c. 1720-30's)(Fig. 17) to move west into Transylvania and ultimately into the Partium and the Bánát, where they had been unknown a century before. The Partiurn (Hungarian term) were regions, which, while not belonging to the recognized historic Transylvania and the southern, southeastern parts of Hungary, had been ruled by local princes in the Turkish era. Half of these had been restored to the Kingdom of Hungary by Charles III in 1738.

The other half (the Counties of Közép-Szolnok, Krszna and Zárand and the District of Kövár) were still with Transylvania in 1780.

The military authorities distrusted the Magyars politically and militarily. Therefore they strengthened the area with other populations more reliable, viz. the Germans and Serbs. Magyars were deliberately excluded from the Bánát.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/hu/timeline/414a3225beea2cdbd9637905227b8570.png

Nice fairy-tale :clap2::bullet puke

And this is Timisoara demographic not Banat demographic. :picard2:

[Vlach]

December 17, 1989, Timisoara

The Repression.

December 17, 1989. In the morning, Timisoara takes to the streets again. Most of the leaders of the previous night’s battles had been badly beaten or arrested by the Militia and the Securitate in the raids that had swept the city all night. But by the end of the morning, hundreds of people gather around the head offices of the Communist Party in Timisoara County, on August 23rd Boulevard. Chanting anti-governmental slogans, a group of the most adventurous storm the building, and under the eyes of the petrified Party functionaries, they tear down Ceausescu’s pictures from the walls, they grab Ceausescu’s books from the bookcases and, together with other communist totems, throw them out of the window into the street. Outside, the crowd meets each shattering of an icon with a huge cheer. They watch as books and portraits crash from the balcony and windows. But the cheer rapidly turns into grief, for it is here that the soldiers use their bayonets on the people for the first time. The stories of the eyewitnesses are terrible: people bayoneted in the stomach, in the back, bayonets cutting people’s faces or ears… a brutal counter-offensive from the army who was supposed to protect the people, not slaughter them for the only fault of having wanted to be free… Panic and fury. Cruelty and revenge. The communist icons of the criminal authorities crushed to the ground. Ceausescu, in effigy, being dragged into mud. His glorious books set on fire. And then the barricades appear. The first clashes. Natural leaders take the lead of the crowds, directing them towards the nerves of the Power. Nothing can control the rebelious city anymore. The workers’ areas are on fire. The harrassed dictatorship is giving in with each step. The stifled soul of freedom is taking its first breaths. The army tanks, sent on the street to crush the people, are blocked by the naked chest of the common people. For the first time in the past fifty years, somewhere in Romania, at Timisoara, God is taking side with the many. God, but not His clerks, who have locked up His churches on the inside!

Timisoara, December 17, 1989. In front of the City Hall, a line of military, armed to their teeth, defend an invisible line. Thousands of people chant uselessly: The Army is with us! The Army is not with them. The Army has used its weapons against the people – and the worse is yet to come…

In Bucharest, dictator Nicolae Ceausescu is yelling at the Ministers of Defence and Interior, calling them traitors, for not having shot directly in the people, as he had ordered. “I ordered that the security forces be armed, that warning shots be fired first, and that afterwards the demonstrators be shot in the legs. Why was this not done?” His Ministries make excuses that they couldn’t possibly think of taking the army out in the street with arms and war cartridges. Ceausescu’s fury is growing: “I ordered you to fire warning shots, and then, if they don’t withdraw, shoot them in the legs. I didn’t think for a minute that you were using blank cartridges. This is eyewash! Those who broke into the Party County Committee headquarters should never have got out alive! They should have been shot dead!“

And so they were… in Timisoara, only a few hours later… and then in Cluj, Arad, Lugoj, Brasov, Bucharest…

In his telephonic conference, at noon, Ceausescu told the officials he had sent in Timisoara: “Some very serious events have been occuring in Timisoara in the last two days… Mistakes have been made because the problem should have been settled within an hour or two… Units were sent out without proper armament before, but now they have been given war ammunition… This is a state of emergency… Everyone who does not submit to the soldiers, I’ve given the order to be shot. People should be challenged, and if they do not comply with the order, they should be shot… I gave order to the troops to fire… They made the mistake before of turning the other cheek… Humanism does not mean joining the enemy. Humanism means the defence of the socialism.”

The Bloody Sunday massacre in Timisoara started about 5,30 pm, as darkness fell on the city…


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljQ2-ul6Mo8

[Szegedist]

this hungarian vs romanian none sense is just that, it happened after their masters lost control, the collapse of the soviet union.

An ignorant canadian such as yourself should not stick his nose into business he knows nothing about.

[Vlach]

Yesterday in Timisoara


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCDUtEHneMI

[Vlach]

Revolution song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB7DnJtrncg

[Szegedist]

The revolution song should be called Va mulțumim maghiari!

[Vlach]

The revolution song should be called Va mulțumim maghiari!

Thank you for what? Are you fucking retarded?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Oa_27MDZXY

Thank you for killing romanians?

[Zmey Gorynych]

The romanian revolution was a scam designed by the KGB and Tokes was a pawn like many others.

[Szegedist]

Thank you for what? Are you fucking retarded?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Oa_27MDZXY

Thank you for killing romanians?

You post a video of Romanians with the support of the Romanian Army and police doing a pogrom against Hungarians. Are you proud of this? Maybe you even took part in it and beaten Hungarians!

[Vlach]

You post a video of Romanians with the support of the Romanian Army and police doing a pogrom against Hungarians. Are you proud of this? Maybe you even took part in it and beaten Hungarians!

And you probably skip this momen 6:09
Of course, the bozgorians started this "war"
"In the first days of March 1990, two episodes involving Romanian statues occurred. Graffiti was found on the statue of the Romanian hero Avram Iancu, and a statue of another Romanian hero in a neighboring town was stolen. After this, a Romanian newspaper referred to events of the same kind that took place before the 1940 Romanian-Hungarian conflict." Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_clashes_of_T%C3%A2rgu_Mure%C8%99

[Szegedist]

Avram Iancu was a mass murderer who killed women and children in cold blood, he does not deserve statues in Hungarian Transylvania, and especially Hungarian cities. Romanians started that war by putting the statues of that rapist there in the first place.

[Zaycev]

You post a video of Romanians with the support of the Romanian Army and police doing a pogrom against Hungarians. Are you proud of this? Maybe you even took part in it and beaten Hungarians!

Hopefully he did in beating up some hungarian nationalist scum like you're

[Vlach]

Avram Iancu was a mass murderer who killed women and children in cold blood, he does not deserve statues in Hungarian Transylvania, and especially Hungarian cities. Romanians started that war by putting the statues of that rapist there in the first place.

Bozgorian idiot becomes extra ultra idiot, you fat ass, Avram Iancu for romanians is a hero and of course for you is a monster.
The bozgorians reviolutionaries make the same shit as Avram Iancu, you son of a witch, fat ass.

[Szegedist]

Bozgorian idiot becomes extra ultra idiot, you fat ass, Avram Iancu for romanians is a hero and of course for you is a monster.
The bozgorians reviolutionaries make the same shit as Avram Iancu, you son of a witch, fat ass.

Lol, what war crimes did Hungarian revolutionaries do? none

[Vlach]

Lol, what war crimes did Hungarian revolutionaries do? none

They created you in a laboratory, thats the crime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1848%E2%80%9349_massacres_in_Transylvania

[Szegedist]

They created you in a laboratory, thats the crime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1848%E2%80%9349_massacres_in_Transylvania

1) Romanians killed thousands of Hungarians, while Hungarians killed only in double digits (less than 100, closer to 50)
2) There are no statues celebrating those who committed the atrocities in Hungary, but there are in Romania.

[Vlach]

1) Romanians killed thousands of Hungarians, while Hungarians killed only in double digits (less than 100, closer to 50)
2) There are no statues celebrating those who committed the atrocities in Hungary, but there are in Romania.

Yeah, in Timisoara is a statue celebrating by AUSTRIANS (your friends =)))) )
The hungarians recovered in 1919 war the number of death

[Szegedist]

Yeah, in Timisoara is a statue celebrating by AUSTRIANS (your friends =)))) )
The hungarians recovered in 1919 war the number of death

Austrians arent our friends, they are friends of Romanians.

1919? WTF

[Vlach]

Austrians arent our friends, they are friends of Romanians.

1919? WTF

Im trolling Austro-Hungary "dual" monarchy.

[Szegedist]

Im trolling Austro-Hungary "dual" monarchy.

It was dual Monarchy after 1867. Read about the compromise, idiot. We had total control over internal affairs.

[Vlach]

It was dual Monarchy after 1867. Read about the compromise, idiot. We had total control over internal affairs.

And Romania is a part of UE since 2007

[Szegedist]

And Romania is a part of UE since 2007

We had more control over our affairs then, than Romania does over its own affairs now.

[HellLander87]

Im trolling Austro-Hungary "dual" monarchy.
"dual" exactly.They were the Austrians' bitches since time immemorial.

[Szegedist]

"dual" exactly.They were the Austrians' bitches since time immemorial.

Your knowledge of history is incredibly low. Their bitches since time immemorial? Hungary was a state before Austria even existed, and later we fought agianst them many times, at one point annexing most of Austria , including Vienna into Hungary., mr Bitch of Turks for 700 yeas.

[HellLander87]

Your knowledge of history is incredibly low. Their bitches since time immemorial? Hungary was a state before Austria even existed, and later we fought agianst them many times, at one point annexing most of Austria , including Vienna into Hungary., mr Bitch of Turks for 700 yeas.
Don't forget that turks started the hungarian=bitch tradition that continued for many centuries..Anyway greece lost its freedom from 350 years,and although many peoples were under foreign occupation at these times only you have delusions about magyar greatness under austrian pimping.

[Szegedist]

Don't forget that turks started the hungarian=bitch tradition that continued for many centuries..Anyway greece lost its freedom from 350 years,and although many peoples were under foreign occupation at these times only you have delusions about magyar greatness under austrian pimping.

learn the difference between occupation and Royal dynasties. By your logic, Britain is currently a German bitch because their royal family is of German origins.

Ps, Turks only occupied a part of Hungary.

[Vlach]

20 December 1989, Timisoara

Liberation Day

December 20, 1989: the day when Timişoara became a free city! In the morning, the workers of Timişoara left their workplaces and, together with other tens of thousands of people, started to march through the city, till they reached its center. At noon, over one hundred thousand people stood in the Opera Plaza of Timişoara, facing the line of armed soldiers that were surrounding the Opera. At around 1,30 pm, the balance was broken by a man who stepped ahead, opened his jacket and asked the army officer to shoot or to step back: “Your weapons are paid by us“, he told the officer. “The bullets in your weapons are paid by us, and so are the army clothes you are wearing. Those people want Freedom, still you have shot them dead in the past days! Shoot us too, now, or step back and let us pass!” said Claudiu Iordache, taking steps ahead, followed by the people around him. And in that moment of tension, the soldiers hesitated, and then broke the line and started to retreat, and the people advanced towards the Opera. In the beginning, around twenty of them managed to enter the Opera, and reached for the Balcony, where an amplifying station had been installed for communist prime- minister Dascalescu, who had wanted to address the people in the attempt to explain again about the hooligans. There, in that Balcony, the people who had entered the Opera addressed the hundred thousand people in the plaza, revealing their names and professions, and asking for the freedom all of them wanted! Lorin Fortuna, Ioan Chiş, Claudiu Iordache, Nicolae Badilescu and the others took turns in speaking to the people. There, in that balcony, a Committee was formed: the first free antitotalitarian party named The Romanian Democratic Front. The Romanian Democratic Front wrote the first document of the Romanian Revolution, the Proclamation entitled “A cazut tirania!“, in which all the demands of the people of Timişoara were put on paper: the fall of Ceauşescu, the returning of the dead to their families, the freeing of the arrested, the declaring of Timişoara as the first city free of communism, free elections. The enterprises and institutions of Timişoara were invited to send their representatives to the Balcony, so that they could become part of The Romanian Democratic Front.

[SKYNET]

protests


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPP6N4l23Z8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCDUtEHneMI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQXlrnIxJns

[Zaycev]

GOD BLESS ROMANIA!

[SKYNET]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnqPibIb8o4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFBnP1HQ7rQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3A6IiaOWhs

[SKYNET]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGL7e3DRg0U


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTm8YVUpLUE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM2ZiFmOICc




FUCK YOU COMMUNISM (!)

[SKYNET]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BYdBTPrEHw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezq6ZLMzluc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5SIPrAHzTg

[Wild North]

The events in Timisoara (Temesvar) 1989, but did a massacre really happend there? And if how many were killed?

The thing seems to be a bit obscure. Just after the dictator had fled, news came up that there was a massacre in Timisoara. But a few weeks later, they said on the news that all was "made up".

[Vlach]

The events in Timisoara (Temesvar) 1989, but did a massacre really happend there? And if how many were killed?

The thing seems to be a bit obscure. Just after the dictator had fled, news came up that there was a massacre in Timisoara. But a few weeks later, they said on the news that all was "made up".


In Romania:
Death(s) 1,104
Injuries 3,352
Timisoara:
16-21 december 73 deaths 296 injuries
after 22 december 20 deaths and 77 injuries