Does England cricket captain Alastair Cook look fully British?

[Tooting Carmen]

When I first saw him, I thought he was part-South Asian. There is something VERY off about him.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/00330/91461758_cook_330577c.jpg http://celebrityhairstylez.com/wp-content/gallery/alastair-cook-hairstyles/alastair-cook-hairstyles6.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-l9niaVoxYYY/TeNwenjR1SI/AAAAAAAALPk/g0nbvocXWaQ/s400/alastair+cook%252847%2529.jpg

[Smeagol]

Maybe.

[Tooting Carmen]

Maybe.

Thank you. Anyone else?

[RighNick]

I agree that he looks exotic and I can definitely see why you think he looks part South Asian. I don't know if he is, though, and if he said he didn't have any foreign ancestry, I'd probably believe him.

[Crn Volk]

No, he looks like a gypo

[Tim O'Brien]

He is exotic because of his dark pigmentation, but besides that, nothing special about him.

[Smaug]

Yes.

[Tooting Carmen]

Thanks to those who have contributed so far. I'd like to say that, while his pigmentation can be found among an extreme minority of native White Brits, his features look too bizarre.

[Proctor]

Similar case as Mr. Bean?

[Tooting Carmen]

Similar case as Mr. Bean?

Pigmentation-wise, yes. But Rowan Atkinson's facial traits are nothing like as weird.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/RowanAtkinsonMar07.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

Here is a picture of the whole cricket team btw. As you can see, even the darker-haired White players look nothing like him. He is fourth from left bottom row:
http://dawncompk.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/england-cricket-team-543.jpg?w=670

[Smaug]

Littorid + Atlanto-Med. A clear Bell-Beaker case, pre-Celtic.

[Tooting Carmen]

Littorid + Atlanto-Med. A clear Bell-Beaker case, pre-Celtic.

Oh please. If he were of any Latin American nationality you'd say he looks off-White/Castizo/Harnizo etc.

[Smaug]

Oh please. If he were of any Latin American nationality you'd say he looks off-White/Castizo/Harnizo etc.

But since he is not, we have to take him for what he is: British.

[Tooting Carmen]

But since he is not, we have to take him as what he is: British.

So you think that British people with no discernible foreign ancestry can look off-White then?:picard1: Note I am not merely referring to his dark pigmentation, but his features.

[Smaug]

So you think that British people with no discernible foreign ancestry can look off-White then?:picard1: Note I am not merely referring to his dark pigmentation, but his features.

Calm down boyo. This lad is fine, I've seen worse cases, like Tom Jones.

[Tooting Carmen]

Calm down boyo. This lad is fine, I've seen worse cases, like Tom Jones.

Tom Jones looks strange now, but it's mostly that he has aged badly. This is what he looked like in his prime. Dark, yes, but not that swarthy and with fully European facial traits:
http://www.the60sofficialsite.com/images/tom-jones.jpg http://hilobrow.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Tom-Jones-Tom-Sings-The-Bea-406897.jpg

[Dynamo]

First of all, he's not that extreme, I've seen relativley darker. Second of all, he's of Anglo welsh ancestry, he's got olive skin, not that atypical among Brits. Some tan really well. People won't stare at him in a pub if he walks in basically

[Tooting Carmen]

First of all, he's not that extreme, I've seen relativley darker. Second of all, he's of Anglo welsh ancestry, he's got olive skin, not that atypical among Brits. Some tan really well. People won't stare at him in a pub if he walks in basically

Oh really? I have always said that, while it is certainly the case that Brits are darker-haired on average than other Northern Europeans, skin tones like those are nowhere near the norm, and those who have them are a small minority. Just look at him compared to the rest of the cricket team in the photo I posted, for example.

[Atlantic Islander]

No idea, but he's really cute. Reminds me of Henry Cavill.

[Ibericus]

Similar case as Mr. Bean?
Come on, Mr Bean looks like the stereotype englishman.

[1stLightHorse]

Alaster Cook's mother is Welsh, so yes, taking that into account he does look fully British.

[Tooting Carmen]

Come on, Mr Bean looks like the stereotype englishman.

He's within the range, yes, but is probably less 'typical' than Xavi is for Spain.:picard1:
Here is a film poster featuring Atkinson. Now, compare him to all the other British actors...
http://www.funfitgirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/love-actually.jpg

[Dynamo]

Oh really? I have always said that, while it is certainly the case that Brits are darker-haired on average than other Northern Europeans, skin tones like those are nowhere near the norm, and those who have them are a small minority. Just look at him compared to the rest of the cricket team in the photo I posted, for example.

sorry, I meant a yellowish tone, instead of the pale pink tone. Yes pink toned skin outnumbers yellowish tone, but its still present. Look at the English footballers, frank lampard, Steven Gerrard, jagielka etc. James Milner is a good example of the skin tone of pink toned Brits.

[Tooting Carmen]

Alaster Cook's mother is Welsh, so yes, taking that into account he does look fully British.

The Welsh are a little bit darker than other Brits on average, yes, but he looks extreme even for them. Welsh rugby teams:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?102898-Scarlets-rugby-team-from-Llanelli-Carmarthenshire-West-Wales&highlight=llanelli+scarlets http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?103667-Ospreys-rugby-team-from-Swansea-Wales&highlight=ospreys http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?106025-Neath-Rugby-Team-South-Wales&highlight=neath

[Tooting Carmen]

sorry, I meant a yellowish tone, instead of the pale pink tone. Yes pink toned skin outnumbers yellowish tone, but its still present. Look at the English footballers, frank lampard, Steven Gerrard, jagielka etc. James Milner is a good example of the skin tone of pink toned Brits.

Leaving aside the fact that Jagielka is of Polish descent anyway, those footballers look nothing like the OP.

[Sikeliot]

Looks like Brazilian footballer Kaká.

[Dynamo]

Leaving aside the fact that Jagielka is of Polish descent anyway, those footballers look nothing like the OP.

I used the footballers as an example of yellowish tone Brits. I i never knew jagielka was half polish lol. There are types like cook, jean Louise Coleman, Alex Zane come to mind right now

[Tooting Carmen]

Looks like Brazilian footballer Kaká.

I can see the resemblance. So, does that mean yes or no to the thread's question?

[Tooting Carmen]

I used the footballers as an example of yellowish tone Brits. I i never knew jagielka was half polish lol. There are types like cook, jean Louise Coleman, Alex Zane come to mind right now

You must be joking or trolling if you think those footballers' skin tones are anything like Cooke's. Furthermore, Alex Zane's real name sounds Middle Eastern - Faris Alexander L. Albayaty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Zane

[Sikeliot]

I can see the resemblance. So, does that mean yes or no to the thread's question?

He looks Iberian with something "off", so he could be a dark Brit if not for whatever makes him look slightly off.

[Dynamo]

You must be joking or trolling if you think those footballers' skin tones are anything like Cooke's. Furthermore, Alex Zane's real name sounds Middle Eastern - Faris Alexander L. Albayaty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Zane

Yeah i checked right now, btw im comparing facial features as well. Cook spends most of his time outdoors in the sun. I never said the footballers skin tones are like cooks ffs. I used them as an example for Brits that have a yellowish hue to their skin!! :)

[Tooting Carmen]

Yeah i checked right now, btw im comparing facial features as well. Cook spends most of his time outdoors in the sun. I never said the footballers skin tones are like cooks ffs. I used them as an example for Brits that have a yellowish hue to their skin!! :)

Frank Lampard does a bit, but Steven Gerrard is pretty fair-skinned.

[Tropico]

His face just looks weird. Like his eyes look so weird like they are too big and full of eye juice lol doesn't look non white just weird.
Don't pin every weird phenotype on non euros. You guys have plenty of fucked up looking Individuals lol

[Dynamo]

Frank Lampard does a bit, but Steven Gerrard is pretty fair-skinned.

they are both fair. Their skin tone differs from say....phil Mitchell from eastenders lol. He's pink.

[Tooting Carmen]

Another photo of the cricket team. He's the one holding the trophy on the bottom row: http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/66033000/jpg/_66033180_england_reuters.jpg

[Anglojew]

His eyes are slightly unaligned.

Yes, he looks fully British. He bears an uncanny resemblance to archetypal English Actor "Superman" Henry Cavill

http://cdni.condenast.co.uk/592x888/g_j/Henry-Cavill_11jun13_rexfeatures_b.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

His eyes are slightly unaligned.

Yes, he looks fully British. He bears an uncanny resemblance to archetypal English Actor "Superman" Henry Cavill

http://cdni.condenast.co.uk/592x888/g_j/Henry-Cavill_11jun13_rexfeatures_b.jpg

I see what you mean, but I still maintain there is something too weird and exotic about Cook.

[Tooting Carmen]

Bump

[GrebluBro]

I have seen his batting..he doesn't stick out from other ENnglish players..

his skin color is still British type...just exotic and miles away from south-Asians in case you have it in your mind :lol:

[Tooting Carmen]

I have seen his batting..he doesn't stick out from other ENnglish players..

his skin color is still British type...just exotic and miles away from south-Asians in case you have it in your mind :lol:

You must be joking or blind if you can't see the difference between him and the other English players. There are already two team photos in this thread to observe. Furthermore, in the OP I said he might look part-South Asian which, given the UK's demographics, is not at all far-fetched. Also, since when is his skin colour normal for Britain?

[GrebluBro]

You must be joking or blind if you can't see the difference between him and the other English players. There are already two team photos in this thread to observe. Furthermore, in the OP I said he might look part-South Asian which, given the UK's demographics, is not at all far-fetched. Also, since when is his skin colour normal for Britain?


Dude he just got dark eyes and hair, nothing else different at all...All other members would vouch for it..

Just check following pics (if not British, at least some typical European)

http://nimg.sulekha.com/sports/original700/alastair-cook-alice-hunt-2011-9-12-14-20-0.jpg
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Alastair+Cook+Australia+v+England+yxrl5BmK8UDl.jpg
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Alastair+Cook+Ashes+Captain+Photo+Call+5ZRYOGgkDRX l.jpg
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Alastair+Cook+Ashes+Captain+Photo+Call+3HGIf2DBkim l.jpg
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Stuart+Broad+Alastair+Cook+England+Nets+Training+M sFZcNWNy7ml.jpg

Typical south Asian vs Coolk
http://www.pakistantribune.com.pk/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/MS-Dhoni-Alastair-Cook.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tjcfygD1r0U/UcfW7BkOK2I/AAAAAAAAQt0/AiIulKp2sMc/s1600/MS-Dhoni-Alastair-Cook-with-the-Champions-Trophy-2013.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

I don't think he looks South Asian per se - that would be really stupid - but, one way or another, he looks mixed with something non-European (South Asian or otherwise). The diver Tom Daley has a similar pigmentation to him BUT, crucially, does NOT have his weird facial features.
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/746397/thumbs/o-TOM-DALEY-570.jpg?2

[Rosier12]

I have seen many guys like him in the UK, I say yes

[GrebluBro]

I don't think he looks South Asian per se - that would be really stupid - but, one way or another, he looks mixed with something non-European (South Asian or otherwise). The diver Tom Daley has a similar pigmentation to him BUT, crucially, does NOT have his weird facial features.
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/746397/thumbs/o-TOM-DALEY-570.jpg?2

Guys like Cook are the textbook Tall Dark handsome examples...

I don't think any white women would ever accept him as non-white even a bit..

Henry Cavil also could slightly non-British looking to you..I am sorry if you didn't think before.

It seems Alastair Cook got some Welsh..
it makes complete sense

Most British people would never think of part-South Asian vibe on him since they must be familiar with Welsh' dark features.


Ya I agree above person looks clear-cut Euro

[Tooting Carmen]

Guys like Cook are the textbook Tall Dark handsome examples...

I don't think any white women would ever accept him as non-white even a bit..

Henry Cavil also could slightly non-British looking to you..I am sorry if you didn't think before.

It seems Alastair Cook got some Welsh..
it makes complete sense

Most British people would never think of part-South Asian vibe on him since they must be familiar with Welsh' dark features.


Ya I agree above person looks clear-cut Euro

Well to me there is something non-European about his features (South Asian or maybe something else). At most, he is passable in Southern Europe, but he is darker-than-average even there.

[Tooting Carmen]

Compare him to some of the other English players in your own photos. I'm not saying his pigmentation does not exist in Britain, but it is FAR from the norm, and his features are not in the slightest bit normal either.

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Alastair+Cook+Ashes+Captain+Photo+Call+3HGIf2DBkim l.jpg
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Stuart+Broad+Alastair+Cook+England+Nets+Training+M sFZcNWNy7ml.jpg

[GrebluBro]

Well to me there is something non-European about his features (South Asian or maybe something else). At most, he is passable in Southern Europe, but he is darker-than-average even there.

slight darker but far from South-Asian skin-type...look Dhoni vs Cook second pic..

Main reason for slight odd look is his eyes...such type of eyes are very exotic..I agree that type is quite south-Asian type..but all other features and skin-color make it negligible..
you are confused mostly cuz of eyes:thumb001:

[Hadouken]

south asian ? no man no

why does everybody looks south asian to you ? this guy seems to be a paleo atlantid or atlanto med something like that

[Tropico]

Compare him to some of the other English players in your own photos. I'm not saying his pigmentation does not exist in Britain, but it is FAR from the norm, and his features are not in the slightest bit normal either.

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Alastair+Cook+Ashes+Captain+Photo+Call+3HGIf2DBkim l.jpg
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Stuart+Broad+Alastair+Cook+England+Nets+Training+M sFZcNWNy7ml.jpg

He's just a Brit with darker features. Doesn't look like he has any Non Euro in him, like everyone in this thread has basically told you. Your seeing something that isn't there. I think we all know Britain has diverse European phenotypes. Not everyone looks the same. Geez.

[Rosier12]

It would be good if I say he looks more Iberian?

[Tooting Carmen]

south asian ? no man no

why does everybody looks south asian to you ? this guy seems to be a paleo atlantid or atlanto med something like that

For the last time, no I did not say he looks South Asian, that was SouthAsian's suggestion. I said he looks mixed-race (maybe with South Asian or something else non-European). Yes, some Brits can have his colouring, but most definitely don't, but the main thing that looks weird about him is his features.

[Tropico]

Looks like a mix of Anglo-Welsh honestly... Not South Asian. Its almost absurd to say he looks part South Asian.

[GrebluBro]

south asian ? no man no

why does everybody looks south asian to you ? this guy seems to be a paleo atlantid or atlanto med something like that

He is little bit right cuz his eyes are quite non-Euro type..some South-Asians have like him

But overall, he looks 100% European...

[Tropico]

For the last time, no I did not say he looks South Asian, that was SouthAsian's suggestion. I said he looks mixed-race (maybe with South Asian or something else non-European). Yes, some Brits can have his colouring, but most definitely don't, but the main thing that looks weird about him is his features.

Since when does looking weird mean racial admixture? Europeans can look weird and have some off phenotypes without it being derived from racial admixture. To think otherwise is ignorant.

[Tooting Carmen]

If this guy is typically British, then Melissa Gorga and Vinny from Jersey Shores are typically Italian.:D

[Hadouken]

For the last time, no I did not say he looks South Asian, that was SouthAsian's suggestion. I said he looks mixed-race (maybe with South Asian or something else non-European). Yes, some Brits can have his colouring, but most definitely don't, but the main thing that looks weird about him is his features.


When I first saw him, I thought he was part-South Asian. There is something VERY off about him.



no ....doesnt even look part south asian ....he doesnt look south asian at all

he isnt even as dark as you say

[Tropico]

If this guy is typically British, then Melissa Gorga and Vinny from Jersey Shores are typically Italian.:D

Who said he's typically British? We're just saying he doesn't look mixed with South Asian. Putting words in our mouths is weak.

[Hadouken]

He is little bit right cuz his eyes are quite non-Euro type..some South-Asians have like him

But overall, he looks 100% European...

i am sure there are a handful south asians with his look but they would be atypical

this guy looks european

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Looks like a Atlanto Med with strong CM influence.

[Tooting Carmen]

OK, the OP was badly-phrased. But there is something non-European about him, or at most, he might have darker-than-average Greek or South Italian ancestry or something. One way or another, he looks far removed from most other native White Brits, and the team photos I posted earlier in this thread prove as much.

[Tropico]

OK, the OP was badly-phrased. But there is something non-European about him, or at most, he might have darker-than-average Greek or South Italian ancestry or something. One way or another, he looks far removed from most other native White Brits, and the team photos I posted earlier in this thread prove as much.

He has Welsh in him. Welsh are known for being darker. He just has a weird asymmetrical face. Are you so naive to think asymmetry is ONLY caused from RACIAL ADMIXTURE? :picard1:

[GrebluBro]

OK, the OP was badly-phrased. But there is something non-European about him, or at most, he might have darker-than-average Greek or South Italian ancestry or something. One way or another, he looks far removed from most other native White Brits, and the team photos I posted earlier in this thread prove as much.


dude simple logic

about 10% of ethnic British got brown eyes black/dark-brown hair


in a team of 10 people, most likely we will find one person...here Alastair Cook..


As you witnessed, about 20 members said no NOn-Euro..
Noone agreed with part non-Euro let alone South Asian

[Tooting Carmen]

He has Welsh in him. Welsh are known for being darker. He just has a weird asymmetrical face. Are you so naive to think asymmetry is ONLY caused from RACIAL ADMIXTURE? :picard1:

Yes, some Welsh people can be quite dark, e.g. Chris Coleman and Gavin Henson are on par with Cook for darkness, but even they do not have his weird features. Btw, given that all those examples are darker-than-average even in most of Southern Europe, what makes you think that people with their sort of colouring are the rule rather than the exception in Wales?

[Tropico]

Yes, some Welsh people can be quite dark, e.g. Chris Coleman and Gavin Henson are on par with Cook for darkness, but even they do not have his weird features. Btw, given that all those examples are darker-than-average even in most Southern Europe, what makes you think that people with their sort of colouring are the rule rather than the exception in Wales?

Having a assymetrical face doesn't mean someone has non European ancestry. How naive. Basically the vast majority of people have told you no... Lol schizophrenia much?

[Tooting Carmen]

in a team of 10 people, most likely we will find one person...here Alastair Cook..


Bullshit. I can post plenty of sports teams where no one looks even remotely like him, whether the players are fair-haired or dark-haired.

[Tropico]

Dude can't let it go. Lol he's European. Get over it lol god how about not obsessing over some dude. Do you have a crush on him or something?

[Tooting Carmen]

Dude can't let it go. Lol he's European. Get over it lol god how about not obsessing over some dude. Do you have a crush on him or something?

Well, given how much Iberians and Italians get into a state whenever darker types are posted, do you not think that this is a legitimate discussion then?

[Tropico]

Well, given how much Iberians and Italians get into a state whenever darker types are posted, do you not think that this is a legitimate discussion then?

There are many Europeans darker than him. He just has a lop sided face.

[Tooting Carmen]

There are many Europeans darker than him.

Please tell that to Anthropologique, Cristiano Viejito, Joseph Capelli etc.

[Tropico]

Please tell that to Anthropologique, Cristiano Viejito, Joseph Capelli etc.

You mean the 3 people than no one takes seriously.

[Tooting Carmen]

You mean the 3 people than no one takes seriously.

I could name some other forum users too, but those are the ones who seem to shout the loudest whenever the substantial number of Southern Europeans with darker colourings are posted.

[Tropico]

I could name some other forum users too, but those are the ones who seem to shout the loudest whenever the substantial number of Southern Europeans with darker colourings are posted.

Because they are Southern Europeans. They wanna deny that some Southern euros are naturally dark. Just because they bitch doesn't mean they are right.

[Turkophagos]

This guy atypical? You don't know atypical.


This is atypical:


http://www.fanphobia.net/uploads/actors/27205/gordon-banks-goal-keeper.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

This guy atypical? You don't know atypical.


This is atypical:


http://www.fanphobia.net/uploads/actors/27205/gordon-banks-goal-keeper.jpg

His eyes are even weirder than Cook's, yes, but his pigmentation is closer to average (though, needless to say, he's still on the dark side). And for all those who go on about the Welsh being darker: most Welsh people look the same as other Brits, even though they do have a larger minority of darker phenotypes, but most still don't look like the OP at all.

[Awebo]

Yes, some Welsh people can be quite dark, e.g. Chris Coleman and Gavin Henson are on par with Cook for darkness, but even they do not have his weird features. Btw, given that all those examples are darker-than-average even in most of Southern Europe, what makes you think that people with their sort of colouring are the rule rather than the exception in Wales?

Hmm... well, if you posted a thread with Alastair Cook and Chris Coleman side by side, asking us which of the two looked possibly part South Asian, i would say Coleman, hands down.