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Fire Haired
12-18-2013, 01:43 AM
This is all the mtDNA and Y DNA Ancient Eurasian DNA (http://www.ancestraljourneys.org/ancientdna.shtml)gives from central Europe during the Copper/Chalcolithic age (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FChalcol ithic&ei=qQSxUsbxLaKGyAG9_IGYDg&usg=AFQjCNF9mPTYABIKJBeYj-yjDfUBbqKYQg&sig2=aaD0-dcQvwfyq_UoIL6Yvw&bvm=bv.58187178,d.aWc). The Corded ware culture (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CCwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCorded_ Ware_culture&ei=FAaxUsi6KoTsyQHF-AE&usg=AFQjCNG8a_yp5nZRFuoQQMXp3bhNuofzOw&sig2=TfUixuCfNr7pMuIdex-mOA&bvm=bv.58187178,d.aWc)was most likely Indo European and probably spoke the ancestral language to Balto-Slavic (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FBalto-Slavic_languages&ei=ZQWxUueoFu_iyAGg_YD4CA&usg=AFQjCNFNKjIgFdjI5to8Gaj7DaCaF77xsg&sig2=Dn9NKYkkruDtwpGlsN7bmQ&bvm=bv.58187178,d.aWc)which is the main language family in eastern Europe today. Bell Beaker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaker_culture)culture from what I have heard was either ancestral to later Indo Europeans of west Europe(Celts, Germans, and Italians) or developed from pre Indo European people of west Europe and was later invaded by Indo Europeans. There are some obvious similarities in the mtDNA of Bell Beaker and Corded ware and obvious differences with previous Neolithic people of central Europe(Central European Neolithic DNA (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?106554-Central-European-Neolithic-DNA)).

There are two R1a1's from Corded ware and two R1b's from Bell Beaker which is very significant. Because today R1b(almost all R1b L11) is the dominate Y DNA haplogroup of west Europeans and R1a1(almost all R1a Z283) is the dominate Y DNA haplogroup of east Europeans. Y DNA R1a1 has been very connected with the spread of Indo European(not all) languages. 16 out of 17 Y DNA samples from supposable Indo Iranians or Tocharian's from Asia during the bronze and iron age had R1a1. Today Indo Iranian speakers and areas were there once were Indo Iranian or Tocharian's there is a pretty high amount of R1a1a1b2 Z93. In former areas of the Corded ware culture there is a high amount of its brotherclade R1a1a1b1 Z283. R1b is believed by some to have arrived in west Europe about 5,000 years ago and rapidly spread mainly during the copper and bronze ages about 5,000-3,000ybp(click here (http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-story-of-r1b-its-complicated.html) and here (http://www.familytreedna.com/public/r1b/default.aspx?section=results)). The DNA from Corded ware and Bell beaker culture is probably from the early times of huge Genetic changes that occurred in east Europe, west Europe, central Europe, and northern Europe.

Total
mtDNA=89
H=27 30.3%(H1=3(H1ca1=1, H1e8=1), H5=3(H5a3=2), H4a1=2, H11a(reported as H)=2 H2a1=1, H13a1a2c=1, H3b=1, H10e=1, H16a1a=1)
U=22 24.7%(U5=14(U5a=10(U5a1=7(U5a1a'g=3, U5a1b1=2, U5a1a'b=1), U5b=2), U4=7(U4c1=2, U4a1=1), U2e=3(U2e2=1, U2e1=1)
T=14 15.73%(T2=8(T2b=4(T2b4f=2, T2b2b=1), T2e=2, T2c=1, T2a1b=1), T1a=1)
J=9 10.1%(J1c=3, J2b1a=1)
K=8 8.98%(K1=4(K1a24a=1), K2a5=1
W=4 4.5%(W5a=1, W6a'b=1)
X=2 2.2%(X2b1'2'3'4'5'6=1)
I=2 2.2%(I1a1(reported as I)=1)
HVOe=1 1.1%

Y DNA=6: R1a1=2, R1b=2(R1b1a2 M269, R1b1a2a1a1 U106-)=1, G?=1, I or J?=1

Forager/FB Ostrof Germany (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!q=Ostrof+Germany&data=!4m37!1m36!4m8!1m3!1d2823!2d-9.3407868!3d39.2873325!3m2!1i1024!2i702!4f13.1!10b 1!19m6!1e1!1e2!1e9!1e10!1e12!4smaps_sv.tactile!20m 13!1e1!1e2!1e3!1e4!1e5!1e9!1e10!1e11!1e12!2m2!1i20 3!2i100!5smaps_sv.tactile!26m4!1e12!1e13!1e3!4smap s_sv.tactile) 3,200bc mtDNA=7: U5=3(U5a=1), T2e=2, K=1, J=1

Corded ware culture (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCorded_ Ware_culture&ei=bxY1UvnjDMi0rQGdlIFY&usg=AFQjCNG8a_yp5nZRFuoQQMXp3bhNuofzOw&sig2=AfH4g3U7kc3hzIWUdaCDlQ&bvm=bv.52164340,d.aWM)
TOTAL
Y DNA: R1a1=2, G?=1, I or J?=1
mtDNA=52
H=14 33.3%(H11a(reported as H)=2, H1ca1=1, H10e=1, H5=1, H2a1=1, H4a1=1, H16a1a=1)
U=11 21.1%(U5=6(U5a=5(U5a1=3(U5a1a'g=1, U5a1a'b=1, U5a1b1=1) U5b=1), U4=3(U4a1=1), U2e=2(U2e2=1, U2e1=1)
T=9 17.3%(T2=5(t2b=4(T2b4f=2, T2b2b=1), T2c=1), T1a=3(T1a1'3=2)
J=7 13.46%(J1c=3), J2b1a=1
K=6 11.5%(K1=3(K1a24a=1), K2a5=1)
X=2 3.8%(X2b1'2'3'4'5'6=1)
I=1 1.9%
W6a'b=1 1.9%
HVOe=1 1.9%

Jagodno, Wroclaw Poland (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!q=Jagodno,+Wroclaw+Poland&data=!4m15!2m14!1m13!1s0x470fc33da1193a31:0x80c395 f99e9afd7!3m8!1m3!1d72179!2d11.1545692!3d51.794141 7!3m2!1i1024!2i702!4f13.1!4m2!3d51.0516668!4d17.05 76881) 2,800bc: Y DNA=2: G?=1, I or J?=1
Quedlinburg, Germany (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!q=Quedlinburg%2C+Germany&data=!4m15!2m14!1m13!1s0x47a5a2d492193369%3A0x4236 659f8058c70!3m8!1m3!1d9014!2d10.8650687!3d51.83377 27!3m2!1i1024!2i702!4f13.1!4m2!3d51.7920562!4d11.1 41448) mtDNA=6: H=4(H4a1=1(2,300-2,130BC), H=2(2,700-2,400BC), H(not date given), HVOe=1(2,700-2,400BC), T2c=1(2,700-2,400BC)
Benzingerode-Heimburg, Germany (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!q=Benzingerode-Heimburg%2C+Germany&data=!4m15!2m14!1m13!1s0x47a50b167f1c1ed3%3A0x413d e2d3f3f095da!3m8!1m3!1d73225!2d11.7961358!3d51.137 5108!3m2!1i1024!2i702!4f13.1!4m2!3d51.83458!4d10.8 671) 2,700-2,400BC mtDNA=1: H1ca1=1
Eulau, Germany (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!q=Eulau%2C+Germany&data=!4m15!2m14!1m13!1s0x47a699ce4cd085d5%3A0x4236 659f8071330!3m8!1m3!1d18195!2d11.6781416!3d51.4177 936!3m2!1i1024!2i702!4f13.1!4m2!3d51.151531!4d11.8 049199) 2,600BC, 2,568-2,511BC
Y DNA=2: R1a1=2
mtDNA=10: H=3(H10e=1, H5=1, H2a1=1), K1=3(K1a4a24a=1), U5a1a'b=1, X2b1'2'3'4'5'6=1, T1a=1, I=1
Karsdorf, Germany mtDNA=13: U=5(U5=2(U5a1b(CW?)=1, U5b(2,600BC)=1, U2'3'4'7'8'9=2(U4=2(U4(2,698-2,658BC)=1, U4a1(no date given CW?)=1, U2e2(2,600BC)=1, T=5(T2=3(T2b4f=2(2,565-2,521BC), T2(no date given CW?)=1), T1a1'3(2,614-2,578BC)=1, T1a1'3(not date given)=1), K2a5(2,260-2,203BC)=1, H(2,600BC)=1, J1c(no date given CW?)=1
Esperstedt, Germany (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!q=Esperstedt%2C+Germany&data=!4m15!2m14!1m13!1s0x47a42abdfd19e7d7%3A0x4236 659f8071ad0!3m8!1m3!1d2468!2d8.3893917!3d47.420610 8!3m2!1i1024!2i702!4f13.1!4m2!3d51.4235974!4d11.67 49051) dating from 2,573-2,511BC to 2,465-2,395BC
mtDNA=12: U=4(U5a=3(U5a1a'g=1), U4=1), J=3, K=1, W6a'b=1, X=1, H6a1a=1, T2b2b=1
Moosweg, Spreitenbach, Switzerland (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!q=Moosweg%2C+Spreitenbach%2C+Switzerland&data=!4m15!2m14!1m13!1s0x47900d0ba77dfc87%3A0x24d5 214db04a91f9!3m8!1m3!1d22354!2d-0.048063!3d39.9874595!3m2!1i1024!2i702!4f13.1!4m2! 3d47.4206108!4d8.3893917)2,500bc
mtDNA=10: H=4(H11a=3(reported as H), J=3(J1c=2, J2b1a=1), U2e1=1, T2b=1, K=1

Bell Beaker culture (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FBeaker_ culture&ei=cR01UuSYL8KKqgGqrICgCw&usg=AFQjCNGHE0meTJn8GI3H7bY1LYnItUwLmw&sig2=AAbalCTV88KgETbr5q9cPQ&bvm=bv.52164340,d.aWM) dating from 2,600-2,500bc to 2,200BC
Y DNA=2; R1b=2(R1b1a2 M269+(R1b1a2a1a1 U106-)=1)
mtDNA=30
H=13 43.3%(H1=2, H5a3=2, H4a1=1, H13a1a2c=1, H1e8=1, H3b=1), U=8 26.6%(U5=5(U5a1=4(U5a1a'g=2, U5a1b1=1), U5b=1), U4c1=2, U2e=1), T=3 10%(T1a=2, T2a1b=1), W=3 10%(W5a=1), I1a1(reported as I)=1 3.3%, K1=1 3.3%, J=1 3.3%


Kromsdorf, Germany (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!q=Kromsdorf,+Germany&data=!4m15!2m14!1m13!1s0x47a41ba0533457fd:0x4208ec 174357940!3m8!1m3!1d173906!2d-87.7319639!3d41.833733!3m2!1i1024!2i702!4f13.1!4m2 !3d51!4d11.3666667) 2,600-2,500bc:
Y DNA=2; R1b=2(R1b1a2 M269+(R1b1a2a1a1 U106-)=1
mtDNA=6: U=2(U2e=1, U5a1=1), K1=1, W5a=1, T1a=1, I1a1(reported as I)=1
Quedlinburg , Germany (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!q=Quedlinburg+%2C+Germany&data=!4m15!2m14!1m13!1s0x47a5a2d492193369%3A0x4236 659f8058c70!3m8!1m3!1d36718!2d11.3796712!3d51.0044 599!3m2!1i1024!2i702!4f13.1!4m2!3d51.7920562!4d11. 141448) 2,500-2,050BC: mtDNA=7: H=6(H1=2, H4a1=2, H13a1a2c=1), J=1
Alberstedt,Germany (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!q=Alberstedt,Germany&data=!4m15!2m14!1m13!1s0x47a42b35f51e119f:0x423665 9f8071a30!3m8!1m3!1d72179!2d11.1545692!3d51.794141 7!3m2!1i1024!2i702!4f13.1!4m2!3d51.4478792!4d11.62 52622) 2,500-2,050BC: mtDNA=2: H=2(H3b(2,371-2,282BC)=1, H(2,494-2,344BC)=1)
Rothenschirmbach,Germany (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!q=Rothenschirmbach,Germany&data=!4m15!2m14!1m13!1s0x47a5d32b990df42f:0xa23665 c88254c20!3m8!1m3!1d36372!2d11.6228726!3d51.440225 !3m2!1i1024!2i702!4f13.1!4m2!3d51.4547222!4d11.545 5556): mtDNA=6: U5a1=3(U5a1a'g(2,201-2,136BC)=2, U5a1b1(Bell Beaker?, 2,500-2,050BC)=1), T2a1b(2,198-2,2161BC)=1, W(2,500-2,050BC)=1, H1e8(Bell Beaker?, 2,500-2,050BC)=1
Karsdorf, Germany (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!q=karsdorf%2C+Germany&data=!4m15!2m14!1m13!1s0x47a42801b889553b%3A0x4236 659f806e700!3m8!1m3!1d33851!2d11.6383604!3d51.2761 008!3m2!1i1024!2i651!4f13.1!4m2!3d51.2719518!4d11. 6560487)mtDNA=3: U=3(U4c1=2(2,314-2,278BC=1, 2,083-2,042BC=1), U5b(no date given)=1
Eulau, Germany (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!q=Eulau,+Germany&data=!4m15!2m14!1m13!1s0x47a699ce4cd085d5:0x423665 9f8071330!3m8!1m3!1d1369550!2d13.7893994!3d37.7280 018!3m2!1i1024!2i651!4f13.1!4m2!3d51.151531!4d11.8 049199) mtDNA=3: H(2,351-2,282BC)=1, W(2,198-2,162BC)=1, T1a(no date given)=1
Rothenschirmbach, Germany (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!q=Rothenschirmbach%2C+Germany&data=!4m15!2m14!1m13!1s0x47a5d32b990df42f%3A0xa236 65c88254c20!3m8!1m3!1d32395!2d11.6383604!3d51.2761 008!3m2!1i1024!2i623!4f13.1!4m2!3d51.4547222!4d11. 5455556) 2,500-2,050BCmtDNA=3: H=3(H5a3=2)