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Empecinado
12-20-2013, 11:59 AM
(blacks are recent immigrants)

El Hierro island

http://images.lainformacion.com/cms/los-vecinos-de-la-restinga-podran-regresar-manana-a-sus-casas/2011_10_20_tscrnWxNmDF80PSKJC7YO.jpg?width=642&height=482&type=height&id=Y54TCf0CyhXQAAbTeRxB32&time=1319141548&project=lainformacion

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http://www.diariodeavisos.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Candidatas-bajada-2013-el-hierro.jpg

http://futbol.as.com/futbol/imagenes/2011/10/15/mas_futbol/1318629625_740215_0000000001_noticia_grande.jpg

http://www.diariodeavisos.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/UD-Restinga.jpg

http://www.abc.es/Media/201110/21/vecino-restinga-efe--644x362.jpg


La Palma island

http://www.eldia.es/blogs/basketmania/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/CBDOMINICAS.jpg

http://www.larevistadelapalma.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Recepci%C3%B3n-CDMensajero.jpg

http://www.eldia.es/blogs/basketmania/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/MSM_La-Palma-500x331.jpg

http://lavozdelapalma.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/CB-dominicas-La-Palma.jpg

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http://lavozdelapalma.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/CDTarsa.jpg

http://www.sportlapalma.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Tri-LP-ganadoras.jpg

La Gomera island


http://marchadeportiva.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/tacoronte-orone2.jpg

http://lagomera.diariodeavisos.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Uni%C3%B3n-Deportiva-Gomera.jpg

http://gomeraverde.es/upload/img/periodico/img_18438.jpg

http://www.gomeranoticias.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/titulon/bah%C3%ADa%20voley%20playa.jpg

http://www.gomeranoticias.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/titulon/gomaharaadeje.jpg

http://www.gomeranoticias.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fullnode/apoyo%20voleibol.jpg

http://www.gomeratoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/gomahara-Orotava.jpg

Empecinado
12-20-2013, 12:00 PM
Tenerife island

http://www.eldia.es/blogs/basketmania/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/EQUIPO.jpg

http://www.tenerife.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/costa-adeje-gran-hotel-pasteleria-1024x866.jpg

http://www.marcanario.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/dsc010921.jpg

http://www.sanjuandedios.es/tenerife/sites/default/files/Reconocimiento%20M%C3%A9dico%20CB%20Tenerife%20Isl a%20%C3%9Anica%20%281%29.JPG

http://www.eldia.es/blogs/basketmania/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/EQUIPO.jpg

http://www.tenerifecajacanarias.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Ascenso-equipo-femenino.jpg

http://www.tenerifecajacanarias.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/121125_sc_carrerapopular_01.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_JyhXIvavnRg/TTck4bc7dyI/AAAAAAAAAZ8/ir7yJfZ3_aY/s1600/sde%2B%25285%2529.JPG

Gran Canaria island

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0nrEStkISaE/TccZGBfjM_I/AAAAAAAAAhY/g7E4suh4hzE/s1600/Equipo%2Bcon%2Bentrenadores.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-myWLh1Bor9g/UHr-tk-yr8I/AAAAAAABtzw/CP3rZfLS8Rk/s1600/equipo.JPG

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qSSvgeutK2Y/TfaTHJx83kI/AAAAAAAAIFA/2coEadj7bzw/s1600/orlas.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-S5rEgO2ggz4/Ug9VSMYtHII/AAAAAAAASic/GpUgPRlmafQ/s1600/DSC_0014_1280x800.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ycp-kEG6iYM/T5CPDmqWkXI/AAAAAAAAHmc/B0Z1yk74U-8/s1600/Tinamar%2B2011-2012%2B-%2BFoto%2BLaura%2BMiranda-%2BNoticias%2Bde%2BSan%2BMateo%2B-%2B27%2Bde%2Benero%2Bde%2B2012.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-78iyi4cXnHg/Txca2za-eqI/AAAAAAAAJHA/-YPHSx6Jf6M/s1600/Mario+GS+180%255B1%255D.jpg

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Lanzarote island


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http://equiposdefutbol.50webs.com/equipos/arrecife-cd.jpg

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Empecinado
12-20-2013, 12:00 PM
Fuerteventura island

http://astronomialanzarote.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/agua-1-de-1-5.jpg

http://altantomajorero.com/wordpressNoticias/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/corralejo-3%C2%BA-dv.jpg

http://altantomajorero.com/wordpressmartes/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/gt-_3.jpg

http://tibiabin.es/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/DSC00302.jpg

http://dunasfm.es/e107_images/newspost_images/campeonas.algo_sagerao.jpg

Sidi Atlas
12-20-2013, 07:04 PM
A necessary thread because at times when I read what people write about the Islands I think they are confusing the Canary Islands with Cape Verde.

It's a pity though that the indigenous component has almost been eradicated on the Canary Islands, but happy to see that some people are reviving a part of their heritage.

I found out that there is a "Liga Amazigh" (http://lacorchera.com/liga-amazigh-gran-canaria/) for junior swimming teams on Gran Canaria:

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll280/Aweznas/Canary%20Islands/IMG_1527_zps524995d3.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll280/Aweznas/Canary%20Islands/Final-liga-Amazigh-6_zps98a0039a.jpg

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http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll280/Aweznas/Canary%20Islands/Final-liga-Amazigh-1_zpscbf09063.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll280/Aweznas/Canary%20Islands/186_zpsd75ae23c.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll280/Aweznas/Canary%20Islands/fotos-piscina-8-septiembre-15_zps7a05318f.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll280/Aweznas/Canary%20Islands/dsc00267_zpsf0e9fef2.jpg




Canary Islanders proud of the Amazigh heritage:

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll280/Aweznas/Canary%20Islands/tumblr_msroixeIMk1rm3fh1o1_1280_zpsbd36b45f.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll280/Aweznas/Canary%20Islands/35_zps02181b72.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll280/Aweznas/Canary%20Islands/hqdefault_zps4ba1d78e.jpg

Tropico
12-20-2013, 07:06 PM
Puerto Ricans is all I see lol but seriously. Looking at the Canaries it gives you a good sense of places in Latin America that had primarily Canarian immigration. Lovely people anyways, I've meet a couple Canarians in my life.

Empecinado
12-20-2013, 07:29 PM
The Canarian aborigines left North Africa in the 10th century BC, that's quite a long time, and they lost the contact with the Berbers and culturally evolved in a separate way because their isolation. A Guanche from the 15th century would be culturally very different from a North African of the same century. Also, unlike North Africans, they never called themselves "Amazigh". Nowadays a Canarian is closer to Iberian Spaniards, Puerto Ricans and Spanish Iberians than to any Berber.

These "Amazigh kindship" is played out only by separatist groups that use it as a way to distance themselves from Spain. And these separatist groups only have some presence in Tenerife (20% of population vote separatist), funnily being Tenerife the island with less Canarian aborigin ancestry and highest Spanish ancestry.

Sidi Atlas
12-20-2013, 08:29 PM
The Canarian aborigines left North Africa in the 10th century BC, that's quite a long time, and they lost the contact with the Berbers and culturally evolved in a separate way because their isolation. A Guanche from the 15th century would be culturally very different from a North African of the same century. Also, unlike North Africans, they never called themselves "Amazigh". Nowadays a Canarian is closer to Iberian Spaniards, Puerto Ricans and Spanish Iberians than to any Berber.

These "Amazigh kindship" is played out only by separatist groups that use it as a way to distance themselves from Spain. And these separatist groups only have some presence in Tenerife (20% of population vote separatist), funnily being Tenerife the island with less Canarian aborigin ancestry and highest Spanish ancestry.
The word "Amazigh" is something that has become more used over the recent years, as an alternative to "Berber". Originally it was used by the Atlas Berbers.

Genetically the Indigenous Canarians (Guanches) are the same as other North Africans, all studies prove this. But sadly the "civilized" Spaniards exterminated the Guanche people and their culture ... Genetically only a small remnant remains among modern day Canarians. It's good to see that some do respect the original element of the Island, which is indeed Amazigh or Berber if you will.

Empecinado
12-20-2013, 09:00 PM
The word "Amazigh" is something that has become more used over the recent years, as an alternative to "Berber". Originally it was used by the Atlas Berbers.

Genetically the Indigenous Canarians (Guanches) are the same as other North Africans, all studies prove this. But sadly the "civilized" Spaniards exterminated the Guanche people and their culture ... Genetically only a small remnant remains among modern day Canarians. It's good to see that some do respect the original element of the Island, which is indeed Amazigh or Berber if you will.

Native Canarians were North Africans genetically, but because their long isolation, culturally they split off from the mainland North Africans. They shared many features with Berbers but overall they were a unique people, clearly separate from North Africans even if they were so genetically. I accept that people consider them to be a Amazigh people, but in my opinion they were enough different to be considered a people apart.

And not all were exterminated. Those from Tenerife were enslaved or exterminated, but those from Gran Canaria were respected after his leader signed a pact with Spaniards. In the case of the natives from El Hierro island, most of them were enslaved by Jean Betancourt (one of the conqueror of Canarians, who was French Norman). In La Gomera I've read that they are in average 40% native Canarian, and the Canarians overall are 20% native Canarian.

BTW, Guanche was the name only of the inhabitants of Tenerife. In the other islands there were Aurites, Gomerites, Majos, Canarians and Bimbaches. And the native heritage is respected by all.

Tooting Carmen
12-20-2013, 09:03 PM
Needless to say that there is more visible North African influence than in mainland Spain, but overall, the Iberian/Southern European elements still dominate by far. Also, there are even some quite light types, though of course fewer than in the mainland.

Smeagol
12-20-2013, 09:11 PM
Indigenous Canarians didn't have Negrid influence, like many Northwest Africans today.

Sidi Atlas
12-20-2013, 09:51 PM
Native Canarians were North Africans genetically, but because their long isolation, culturally they split off from the mainland North Africans. They shared many features with Berbers but overall they were a unique people, clearly separate from North Africans even if they were so genetically. I accept that people consider them to be a Amazigh people, but in my opinion they were enough different to be considered a people apart.
Within the Amazigh people there are differences with each group having their own peculiarities, e.g. Kabyle are quite different from the Berbers of the Souss (South West Morocco). However they do share a common bond. The Canarians before the Spanish invasion would have been similar in this way.

Today's Canarians are different. The indigenous element has become for a large part folklore. But I do respect the people that make the efforts to include the Amazigh element in modern day Canary society.


Indigenous Canarians didn't have Negrid influence, like many Northwest Africans today.
When I refer to North Africans in an anthropological sense, I usually mean North Africans without SSA admixture or any recent admixture.

Sikeliot
12-20-2013, 09:54 PM
Many Canarians do show NW African influence, in various degrees.

Empecinado
12-20-2013, 10:02 PM
Within the Amazigh people there are differences with each group having their own peculiarities, e.g. Kabyle are quite different from the Imazighen of the Souss (South West Morocco). However they do share a common bond. The Canarians before the Spanish invasion would have been similar in this way.

Today's Canarians are different. The indigenous element has become for a large part folklore. But I do respect the people that make the efforts to include the Amazigh element in modern day Canary society.


Still they have had relations between them, share religion and share many events happened in the last centuries of history. Instead Canarians lived isolated in their islands and lost all their contact with the other Berbers, so they culturally evolved in a different way.

Fincher
12-20-2013, 10:05 PM
Maybe half of present-day Cuba would pass.

turkojew
08-08-2014, 08:00 PM
Fresh from Mid-East.

Loki
08-08-2014, 08:07 PM
Fresh from Mid-East.

You are trolling, mister.

Immortal Technique
08-08-2014, 08:07 PM
These girls can pass in my bed.

Loki
08-08-2014, 08:09 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canarian_people#Population_genetics

Population genetics

The most frequent (maternal-descent) mtDNA haplogroup in Canary Islands is H (37.6 %), followed by U6 (14.0 %), T (12.7 %), not-U6 U (10.3 %) and J (7.0 %). Two haplogroups, H and U6 alone account for more than 50% of the individuals. Significant frequencies of sub-Saharan L haplogroups (6.6%) is also consistent with the historical records on introduction of sub-Saharan slave labour in Canary Islands. However, some Sub-Saharan lineages are also found in North African populations, and as a result, some of these L lineages could have been introduced to the Islands from North Africa.[10][11] A 2009 study of DNA extracted from the remains of aboriginal inhabitants found that 7 % of lineages were haplogroup L, what leaves open the possibility that these L lineages were part of the founding population of the Canary Islands.[12]

A 2003 genetics research article by Nicole Maca-Meyer et al. published in the European Journal of Human Genetics compared aboriginal Guanche mtDNA (collected from Canarian archaeological sites) to that of today's Canarians and concluded that "despite the continuous changes suffered by the population (Spanish colonization, slave trade), aboriginal mtDNA lineages constitute a considerable proportion [42–73%] of the Canarian gene pool".

Although the Berbers are the most probable ancestors of the Guanches, it is deduced that important human movements (e.g., the Islamic-Arabic conquest of the Berbers) have reshaped Northwest Africa after the migratory wave to the Canary Islands and the "results support, from a maternal perspective, the supposition that since the end of the 16th century, at least, two-thirds of the Canarian population had an indigenous substrate, as was previously inferred from historical and anthropological data."[13] mtDNA haplogroup U subclade U6b1 is Canarian-specific[14] and is the most common mtDNA haplogroup found in aboriginal Guanche archaeological burial sites.[13]

Y-DNA, or Y-chromosomal, (direct paternal) lineages were not analysed in this study; however, an earlier[which?] study giving the aboriginal y-DNA contribution at 6% was cited by Maca-Meyer et al., but the results were criticized as possibly flawed due to the widespread phylogeography of y-DNA haplogroup E1b1b1b, which may skew determination of the aboriginality versus coloniality of contemporary y-DNA lineages in the Canaries. Regardless, Maca-Meyer et al. state that historical evidence does support the explanation of "strong sexual asymmetry...as a result of a strong bias favoring matings between European males and aboriginal females, and to the important aboriginal male mortality during the Conquest."[15] The genetics thus suggests that native men were sharply reduced in numbers due to the war, large numbers of Spanish men stayed in the islands and married the local women, the Canarians adopted Spanish names, language, and religion, and in this way, the Canarians were Hispanicized.[citation needed]

Indeed, according to a recent study by Fregel et al. 2009, in spite of the geographic nearness between the Canary Islands and Morocco, the genetic heritage of the Canary islands male lineages, is mainly from European origin. Indeed, nearly 67% of the haplogroups resulting from are Euro–Eurasian (R1a (2.76 %), R1b (50.62 %), J (14 %), I (9.66 %) and G (3.99 %)). Unsurprisingly the Spanish conquest brought the genetic base of the current male population of the Canary Islands. Nevertheless, the second most important haplogroup origin is Northern Africa. E1b1b (14 % including 8.30 % of the typical berber haplogroup E-M81), E1b1a and E1a (1.50 %), and T (3 %) haplogroups are present at a rate of 33 %. Even if a part of these "eastern" haplogroups were introduced by the Spanish (they are well represented in Spain), we can suppose that a good portion of this rate was already there at the time of the conquest.[16][17] According to the same study, the presence of autochthonous North African E-M81 lineages, and also other relatively abundant markers (E-M78 and J-M267) from the same region in the indigenous Guanche population, "strongly points to that area [North Africa] as the most probable origin of the Guanche ancestors". In this study, Fregel et al. estimated that, based on Y-chromosome and mtDNA haplogroup frequencies, the relative female and male indigenous Guanche contributions to the present-day Canary Islands populations were respectively of 41.8 % and 16.1 %.[16]

An autosomal study in 2011 found an average Northwest African influence of about 17 % in Canary Islanders with a wide interindividual variation ranging from 0 % to 96 %. According to the authors, the substantial Northwest African ancestry found for Canary Islanders supports that, despite the aggressive conquest by the Spanish in the 15th century and the subsequent immigration, genetic footprints of the first settlers of the Canary Islands persist in the current inhabitants. Paralleling mtDNA findings, the largest average Northwest African contribution was found for the samples from La Gomera.[

turkojew
08-08-2014, 08:11 PM
Canarians don't have Middle Eastern ancestry. They are mainly European with some North African admixture from the indigenous Guanche people. http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?135316-Canarian-Genetic-Study

Javier Bardem is a very good actor mate.

Empecinado
08-08-2014, 08:12 PM
I opened a thread about them:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?106904-People-from-Canary-islands-%28Spain%29

Sikeliot
08-08-2014, 09:38 PM
I think slightly over half of Canarians look mainland Iberian.. around a quarter look predominantly NW African, and then the remainder are a mixture. They actually often look Portuguese.

Damiăo de Góis
08-08-2014, 09:54 PM
I think slightly over half of Canarians look mainland Iberian.. around a quarter look predominantly NW African, and then the remainder are a mixture. They actually often look Portuguese.

They have no relation with Portugal.

Empecinado
08-08-2014, 10:20 PM
They have no relation with Portugal.

http://eldia.es/2010-03-02/canarias/18-Apellidos-canario-portugueses.htm

Smeagol
08-08-2014, 10:37 PM
Most look fully Spanish. Not a surprise..

Leo Iscariot
09-29-2014, 02:53 AM
Puerto Ricans is all I see

Ricans, Cubans, and, maybe, Venezuelans.

FilhoV
02-14-2018, 12:40 PM
Good thread many familiar faces

Latinus
07-07-2019, 06:42 AM
Most of them look no diferent from Mainland Spaniards, while another portion shows strong North African (Guanche elements), and other reminds me of New World mixed Latinos.
Interesting, I used to think Spanish looking Canarians were a tiny minority, it seems I was wrong.

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Nassbean
07-07-2019, 07:17 AM
All invaders.

rajputprincess
07-07-2019, 07:49 AM
Most of them look no diferent from Mainland Spaniards, while another portion shows strong North African (Guanche elements), and other reminds me of New World mixed Latinos.
Interesting, I used to think Spanish looking Canarians were a tiny minority, it seems I was wrong.

Enviado de meu SM-G610M usando o TapatalkThey are 75% European 22% north African 3% black their maternal DNA seem to have lot of influence from North Africa i am not surprised most people who are quarter mena and 75% European look European.



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rajputprincess
07-07-2019, 07:52 AM
All invaders.Even though they are mostly European they still have significant north African mostly maternal they are different from mainland Spain .

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rajputprincess
07-07-2019, 08:01 AM
Most of them look no diferent from Mainland Spaniards, while another portion shows strong North African (Guanche elements), and other reminds me of New World mixed Latinos.
Interesting, I used to think Spanish looking Canarians were a tiny minority, it seems I was wrong.

Enviado de meu SM-G610M usando o TapatalkGuanche princess statue her name is princess Dácil she was called blonde with Green eyes and freckles so some of them already look Europeanhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190707/5f420a6c798d996ee60e9a0b48fdb54a.jpg

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Nassbean
07-07-2019, 10:41 AM
Even though they are mostly European they still have significant north African mostly maternal they are different from mainland Spain .

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Only a minority among them score 15 to 20% NA... I've seen some canarians who scored more iberian than mainland iberians lol. So these people should stop their comedy about amazigh culture because they have nothing to do with it they don't even look berber. Guanches have been exterminated i don't know why it is so hard to accept this fact.

Latinus
07-07-2019, 02:46 PM
They are 75% European 22% north African 3% black their maternal DNA seem to have lot of influence from North Africa i am not surprised most people who are quarter mena and 75% European look European.



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Peterski
09-15-2019, 11:58 AM
Only a minority among them score 15 to 20% NA... I've seen some canarians who scored more iberian than mainland iberians lol. So these people should stop their comedy about amazigh culture because they have nothing to do with it they don't even look berber. Guanches have been exterminated i don't know why it is so hard to accept this fact.

Nope. Some islands have significant amount of North African DNA:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?300889-Canary-Islands-K15-PCA